Independent Thinking - Adam, Hamza and Oliver discuss navigating latest watch market trends

In this episode of the Independent Thinking Show for ⁠⁠@FifthWrist⁠⁠⁠ Radio podcast, host Adam (@mediumwatch) brings together two esteemed guests, Oliver Müller (@the_ignorant_frenchman) of LuxeConsult and Hamza Masood (@watchcharts), to delve into the intricate landscape of the luxury watch industry. The discussion begins with personal insights into their favorite watches and transitions into a comprehensive analysis of market trends, both historical and current. Oliver, with over two decades of experience in luxury watch consultancy and manufacturing, and Hamza, an expert from WatchCharts, offer their perspectives on the evolution of consumer behavior, the impacts of economic fluctuations, and the future trajectory of watch brands. The conversation touches on the challenges faced by the Swiss watch industry amidst fluctuating FX rates and economic downturns, while also shedding light on the strategic moves by major brands to address these issues. Both guests provide valuable predictions for the next five years, highlighting increased market polarization and the potential for fewer, more dominant brands. Follow us on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠@FifthWrist⁠⁠⁠  #fifthwrist #fifthwristradio #fifthwristradiopodcast ⁠⁠⁠@FifthWrist ⁠⁠⁠ Independent Thinking Show is a place dedicated to showcasing the great people doing interesting and cool things in the world of horology.  Theme Music for 2024: ⁠⁠⁠The Wrong Time by Silent Partner (via YouTube Free Music Channel)⁠⁠⁠  To join our crew group chat then please email us at [email protected] and if you have time please leave us a review wherever you listen to our podcast. We hope you enjoy listening to this episode as much as we enjoyed making it!  Stay On Time

In this episode of the Independent Thinking Show for ⁠@FifthWrist⁠⁠ Radio podcast, Roman (⁠@TimesRomanAU⁠) interviews Jonathan and Danielle (the dynamic husband and wife team behind Helicon Watches (⁠@heliconwatches⁠). Jonathan and Danielle share their unique journey from their respective careers in real estate and design to the world of watchmaking, influenced by Jonathan's grandfather's vintage timepieces. Our discussion covers the meticulous process behind the Helicon design approach, the challenges they face in an industry often biased against women and smaller brands, and their dedication to personalized customer experiences. We also cover Jonathan's experience in the industry as a consultant and the benefits of events fostering direct consumer engagement. Through personal stories and insights, Jonathan and Danielle emphasize the importance of passion and authenticity in building a sustainable, independent watch brand. Make sure to check out ⁠@Heliconwatches ⁠and ⁠www.heliconwatches.com ⁠ Follow us on Instagram: ⁠⁠@FifthWrist⁠⁠  #fifthwrist #fifthwristradio #fifthwristradiopodcast ⁠⁠@FifthWrist ⁠⁠ Independent Thinking Show is a place dedicated to showcasing the great people doing interesting and cool things in the world of horology.  Theme Music for 2024: ⁠⁠The Wrong Time by Silent Partner (via YouTube Free Music Channel)⁠⁠  To join our crew group chat then please email us at [email protected] and if you have time please leave us a review wherever you listen to our podcast. We hope you enjoy listening to this episode as much as we enjoyed making it!  Stay On Time

Roman (@TimesRomanAU) hosts Josh Blank from Papar Watches (@paparwatches) on the Independent Thinking Show for @FifthWrist Radio podcast. We discuss Josh's transition from a corporate lawyer and tech startup founder to co-launching an independent watch brand with his wife, Emily. The conversation covers the design inspirations of the Anillo Sector dial GMT, including influences from Mexico's brutalist architecture and paper folding, and the excitement of launching steel and rose gold PVD models. Josh shares insights into the challenges and rewards of creating a new watch brand, the importance of creating accessible yet innovative timepieces, and the significance of enthusiast community engagement . Make sure to check out @Paparwatches and www.paparwatchco.com Follow us on Instagram: ⁠@FifthWrist⁠  #fifthwrist #fifthwristradio #fifthwristradiopodcast ⁠@FifthWrist ⁠ Independent Thinking Show is a place dedicated to showcasing the great people doing interesting and cool things in the world of horology.  Theme Music for 2024: ⁠The Wrong Time by Silent Partner (via YouTube Free Music Channel)⁠  To join our crew group chat then please email us at [email protected] and if you have time please leave us a review wherever you listen to our podcast. We hope you enjoy listening to this episode as much as we enjoyed making it!  Stay On Time

In this @FifthWrist Radio Podcast episode, host Roman (@TimesRomanAU) sits down with Michiel Holthinrichs @holthinrichswatches, an independent watchmaker from the Netherlands.  Michiel shares his unique journey from architectural graduate to watchmaker, discussing the evolution of his brand from its inception to the present day.  The conversation delves into his innovative design philosophy, the impact of his architectural background on his watch designs, and the challenges of balancing creativity and practical manufacturing. Michiel also highlights his ambitions for the future, including contributing to the watchmaking industry in the Netherlands and aiming to stand alongside renowned avant-garde brands. Listeners will hear about Michiel’s thoughts on the rise of independent watchmaking post-2020, his approach to integrating technology like 3D printing, and the story behind his signature Delft designs. Make sure to check out @holthinrichswatches and the EXCITING and NEW venture @holthinrichshautehorlogerie! As mentioned in the episode, here is the  Link to Michiel’s recent appearance on the Worn & Wound podcast (Ep 352) here: https://wornandwound.com/podcasts/the-worn-wound-podcast-ep-352-a-conversation-with-michiel-holthinrichs/  Follow us on Instagram: @FifthWrist  #fifthwrist #fifthwristradio #fifthwristradiopodcast @FifthWrist  Independent Thinking Show is a place dedicated to showcasing the great people doing interesting and cool things in the world of horology.  Theme Music for 2024: The Wrong Time by Silent Partner (via YouTube Free Music Channel)  To join our crew group chat then please email us at [email protected] and if you have time please leave us a review wherever you listen to our podcast. We hope you enjoy listening to this episode as much as we enjoyed making it!  Stay On Time

Another episode of the Independent Thinking Show for @FifthWrist Radio. In this episode, host Adam (@mediumwatch) sits down for another chat with Hamza from @Watchcharts. Watchcharts is the most comprehensive pre-owened watch search engine and market research website, with live pricing and availability for 25,000+ watches. Roman (@TimesRomanAU) was not able to make this recording, so Adam was flying solo! Adam and Hamza discuss the current state of the pre-owned watch market, analyzing trends, pricing, and market health indicators, with a focus on Rolex, Patek Philippe, and Audemars Piguet. The episode also covers the impact of economic conditions in China on luxury watch consumption, the role of Rolex's Certified Pre-Owned (CPO) program, and the personal aspects of watch collecting. Follow us on Instagram: @FifthWrist  #fifthwrist #fifthwristradio #fifthwristradiopodcast @FifthWrist  Independent Thinking Show is a place dedicated to showcasing the great people doing interesting and cool things in the world of horology.  Theme Music for 2024: The Wrong Time by Silent Partner (via YouTube Free Music Channel)  To join our crew group chat then please email us at [email protected] and if you have time please leave us a review wherever you listen to our podcast. We hope you enjoy listening to this episode as much as we enjoyed making it!  Stay On Time

Another episode of the Independent Thinking Show for @FifthWrist Radio. This is a place dedicate to showcasing the great people doing interesting and cool things in the world of horology. In this episode, host Phil (@pippy) and Roman (@timesromanau) have the absolute pleasure to speak with Seth Kennedy (@sk_mechanician). Seth is a master horologist, specialising in case-making for pocket watches, engine-turning and antiquarian horology. Join us for a great conversation about the arcane crafts of hand-making cases; Seth’s journey into the horological world and the importance of preserving antique crafts. There are also recommendations about sources of knowledge, ways to learn and opportunities to engage. It was a great privilege to speak with Seth and we hope you enjoy listening as much as we enjoyed recording it. Make sure to give Seth a follow on Instagram - @sk_mechanician⁠ Special shout-outs to friends of FifthWrist Radio (they are are also previous guests so listen to our back episodes catalog now!): - Brittany Nicole Cox (@nicocurio) - Dave Brailsford (@garrickwatchco) - Josh Shapiro (@jnshapiro_watches) - Mat (@the_watchnerd) - David Walter (⁠@davide.walter⁠) - Worshipful Company of Clockmakers (@clockmakerscompany) Theme Music for 2024: The Wrong Time by Silent Partner (via YouTube Free Music Channel) Follow us on Instagram: @FifthWrist  To join our crew group chat then please email us at [email protected] and if you have time please leave us a review wherever you listen to our podcast. Stay On Time

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Link to show notes here watches were my first love and they will be my last watches of the future and watches of the past Detailed show notes have been available in the past and will be available in the future. For now we only have four geeks taking about watches of the past and the future.  Watches covered:  11:50 Behrens Mars project one https://behrenseurope.com/products/mars-project-one 23:50 Singer Divetrack https://monochrome-watches.com/singer-divetrack-automatic-24-hour-central-diving-chronograph-novel-type-dive-watch-introducing-specs-price/ 34:50 Hermes https://www.wallpaper.com/watches-jewellery/hermes-cut-watches-are-launched-against-erin-okeefes-colourful-set-at-watches-and-wonders-2024 49:15 Rolex Deepsee in full Gold https://www.ablogtowatch.com/new-release-2024-rolex-deepsea-is-a-322g-dive-watch-in-yellow-gold/ 57:50 Zenith Defy Extreme Diver  https://revolutionwatch.com/zenith-at-watches-wonders-2024-defy-divers-and-chronographs/ 01:08:30 SpaceOne Tellurium https://monochrome-watches.com/spaceone-is-back-with-an-accessible-wrist-sized-tellurium-introducing-specs-price/ 01:18:00 IWC Eternal calendar https://www.iwc.com/en/watch-collections/portugieser/iw505701-portugieser-eternal-calendar.html 01:35:40 Moser lime green https://h-moser.com/product/pioneer-centre-seconds-3201-1204/ Hautlence https://horologium.com.au/2024/04/14/watches-wonders-2024-hautlence-retrovision-47/ Shout-outs @moodydials @myhorologicaljourney @marcdarno  @vinnievandyk @ablogtowatch Instagram recommendations  Phil:  Samuel55800 Benoît: @moodydials  Wolfgang: @berneron   Claus: @threequarterplate Theme music: diy by @tapir_ffm based on the aria «Ebben? Ne andrò lontana» of the opera «La Wally» by Alfredo Catalani Fifth Wrist and Fifth Wrist Radio are both community run projects. Designed to serve the watch enthusiast community. We reject all forms of outside watch brand intervention and take no money, watches or goods from watch companies. The future direction of the website and podcasts are driven by the people who take part in this project. To join the action and get involved why not get started by reviewing one of your own watches at fifthwrist.com/write-review  Follow us on Instagram: @fifthwrist Follow us on facebook: facebook.com/fifthwrist To join our group chat on Slack then please email us at [email protected]  We hope you enjoy listening to this episode as much as we enjoyed making it! Thanks to everyone in the Fifth Wrist community who give their time to make this project possible. The hosts, co-hosts, writers and editors, plus everyone who takes the time to share and promote this project daily. Please take the time to leave us a review wherever you listen to our podcast. Thank you for all the positive reviews and comments on our episodes. We read and appreciate each one! The time is gone, the show is over, thought I’d something more to say…

Another episode of the Independent Thinking Show for @FifthWrist Radio.  In this @FifthWrist Radio Podcast episode, hosts Roman (@TimesRomanAU) and Adam (@mediumwatch) speak with horological consultant and author Alex Barter (@alexanderbarter). Alex sheds light on his professional journey, from his tenure at Sotheby's in London and Geneva to his role as the Deputy Worldwide Head of Sotheby's Watch Department, before venturing into independent horological consultancy and co-founding BlackBough. The conversation explores Alex's insights into pocket watch collecting, the importance of preserving horological knowledge, and his book '500 Years, 100 Watches' co-authored with Daryl Schnipper. Additionally, we discuss the evolving watch market, the impact of digital platforms, and social media's role in horological education are discussed. Recommendations include following Instagram accounts Vector Animation (@vecthor_animation) and @17jewels.info for animation-driven watch mechanism insights, and Rory McEvoy (@PendulumGeek) for scholarly perspectives. Shout-outs in this episode to our previous podcast guests: John Reardon (@johnreardon570 and @collectabilityllc), Todd Levin @levinartgroup1 ; Paul Boutros (@pboutros) and Rebecca and Craig Struthers (@strutherswatchmakers). The episode also suggests checking out BlackBough.co.uk for more on Alex's work and highlights the significance of engaging with horology through books and digital mediums. https://www.blackbough.co.uk/product/prestel-500-years-100-watches-alexander-barter-daryn-schnipper-signed-copies/ https://www.blackbough.co.uk/product/prestel-the-watch-a-twentieth-century-style-history-alexander-barter-2/ Follow us on Instagram: @FifthWrist  #fifthwrist #fifthwristradio #fifthwristradiopodcast @FifthWrist Independent Thinking Show is a place dedicated to showcasing the great people doing interesting and cool things in the world of horology.  Theme Music for 2024: The Wrong Time by Silent Partner (via YouTube Free Music Channel)  To join our crew group chat then please email us at [email protected] and if you have time please leave us a review wherever you listen to our podcast. We hope you enjoy listening to this episode as much as we enjoyed making it!  Stay On Time