458: Going Down Deep Into Silo

As a TV host, Conan O'Brien has moved on from a nightly interview and variety show on TBS to a comedy travel show on Max; as the whole season drops, Will Hines joins us to discuss how well it fits into the genre, and what it was like doing sketches during Conan's run of Late Night. Around The Dial takes us through Dinner With The Parents, X-Men '97, and The Jinx II. Kari pitches the "Heat Stroke" episode of Taskmaster NZ for induction into the Canon. Then, after naming the week's Winner and Loser, it's on to an extraordinarily resourceful Game Time. No passport needed to listen! GUESTS 👤 Will Hines TOPICS Lead Topic: 🗺️ Conan O'Brien Must Go Around The Dial: 🍽️ Dinner With The Parents Around The Dial: 🦸‍♀️ X-Men '97 Around The Dial: 🪦 The Jinx The Canon: 🥝 Taskmaster New Zealand S02.E02: Heat Stroke Winner & Loser: 👍 Oz Winner & Loser: 👎 Tom Sandoval Game Time: 🧰 MacGyver With Quotes SUPPORT THE SHOW 🔥 Join the EHG Club for bonus episodes, no ads, community Discord and more! 🛍️ Shop our merch store! NOTES 🗒 Full episode notes can be found on the episode 508 page on ExtraHotGreat.com 🕰️ Will Hines on TikTok 📸 Will on Instagram 🌎 Tara's review of Conan O'Brien Must Go at Cracked.com 🍽️ Tara's review of Dinner With The Parents at Cracked.com 👙 Tara's review of Fern Brady: Autistic Bikini Queen at Cracked.com 🎼 The Mark And Sarah Talk About Songs podcast on Patreon 🫚 Ginger Crunch recipe at CarolinesCooking.com 📷 Photo: Conaco / Max

It's yet another expensive-looking and ambitious limited series from Apple TV+ -- this time, Franklin, starring Michael "Gordon Gekko" Douglas as the flatulence-forward inventor of electricity. Is this limited series focused on the wrong thing? Is Franklin as a colonial weirdo better in smaller doses? And why isn't there more farting? Later, we went Around The Dial with Loot's second season, Top Chef's Wisconsin season, and Carol & The End of the World, and then we took cover for an incoming Canon pitch about the Justified S01 finale. Cold Case won, Billy Joel fans lost, and Tara ran the numbers with us in a non-regulation Game Time. Pin a scale-model tall ship to your head and get ready for an all-new Extra Hot Great! GUESTS 👤 Krystal Farmer TOPICS Lead Topic: 🪁 Franklin Around The Dial: 👑 Loot Around The Dial: 🤯 Carol & The End of the World Around The Dial: 🔪 Top Chef The Canon: 🤠 S01.E13: Bulletville Winner & Loser: 🥶 Cold Case Winner & Loser: 🎹 Billy Joel Game Time: 💯 Keeping Everything 100 SUPPORT THE SHOW 🔥 Join the EHG Club for bonus episodes, no ads, community Discord and more! 🛍️ Shop our merch store! NOTES 🗒 Full episode notes can be found on the episode 507 page on ExtraHotGreat.com 🪙 Krystal Farmer's podcast, Two Cents Plus Tax 🤫 Anne Hathaway quieting a crowd in Italy 👑 Tara's Loot S02 review at Cracked 📚 The "as seen on TV" sale at Exhibit B. Books 📷 Photo: Apple CLUB-ONLY NOTES 🔥 EHG Club Perk Links & How-To 💬 Get On Our Community Discord

Tom Ripley, a Talented character we already saw on screen in his namesake movie in 1999, is back, now in a limited series on Netflix; Dan Rogge joins us to discuss how this version compares to Anthony Minghella's film, what we thought of its use of black and white, and how it works to age up the character so he can be played by Andrew Scott. Around The Dial takes us through Monsters At Work S02, Only Murders In The Building S03, and Space Show (aka For All Mankind). Britt pitches the Moonlighting episode "The Dream Sequence Always Rings Twice" for induction into the Canon; then we name the week's Winner and Loser and move on to a Game Time about TV therapists: how does that make you feel? Row out into the middle of the open sea and listen! GUESTS 👤 Dan Rogge TOPICS Announcement: 📢 Patreon Update Lead Topic: ⛵️ Ripley Around The Dial: 🧌 Monsters At Work Around The Dial: 🏙️ Only Murders In The Building Around The Dial: 🚀 For All Mankind The Canon: 🌛 Moonlighting S02.E04: The Dream Sequence Always Rings Twice Winner & Loser: 👍 The NCIS franchise Winner & Loser: 👎 Homophobic 9-1-1 viewers Game Time: 🧠 TV Head Shrinkers (Brought To You By BetterHelp) SUPPORT THE SHOW 🔥 Join the EHG Club for bonus episodes, no ads, community Discord and more! 🛍️ Shop our merch store! NOTES 🗒 Full episode notes can be found on the episode 506 page on ExtraHotGreat.com ⛱️ All Summer In A Day (1982) on YouTube 📹 Michael Penn's “Try” video on YouTube 🧌 Tara's essay on Monsters At Work S02 at Cracked 🔗 Dan Rogge on LinkedIn 🎶 The Mark And Sarah Talk About Songs podcast on Patreon 📷 Photo: Philippe Antonello / Netflix CLUB-ONLY NOTES 🔥 EHG Club Perk Links & How-To 💬 Get On Our Community Discord

AMC's latest prestige drama, Parish, features Giancarlo Esposito as a retired wheelman trying to do former associate Skeet Ulrich a favor, and we're thrilled Omar Gallaga is parking it on the panel to talk about the show. Does the show do anything with 2010s crime-show cliches? Who has notes on car-chase credibility? And on a scale of one to ten plastic babies, how "Nawlins" is the show? Later, we're going Around The Dial with Taskmaster's seventeenth season, Jerrod Carmichael Reality Show, and how to rewatch Boardwalk Empire; and finding out whether Tara's Canon pitch for This Fool is worth one MEEELLION dollars. RHONY won, Tori Spelling lost, and we obeyed a VERY strict speed limit for Game Time -- so buckle your seatbelt for an all-new Extra Hot Great! GUESTS 👤 Omar Gallaga TOPICS Lead Topic: 🚗 Parish Around The Dial: 💌 Taskmaster Around The Dial: 😬 Jerrod Carmichael Reality Show Around The Dial: 🍾 Boardwalk Empire The Canon: 🕺 This Fool S01.E05: Sandy Says Winner & Loser: 👍 The Real Housewives Of New York City Winner & Loser: 👎 Tori Spelling Game Time: 🐢 Slowly At First II SUPPORT THE SHOW 🔥 Join the EHG Club for bonus episodes, no ads, community Discord and more! 🛍️ Shop our merch store! NOTES 🗒 Full episode notes can be found on the episode 505 page on ExtraHotGreat.com 💻 Omar Gallaga at CNET 🎞️ Omar Gallaga at Book & Film Globe 💌 Tara's interview with Alex and Greg of Taskmaster at Cracked.com 🪄 Tara's interview with Justin Willman of The Magic Prank Show ⚾️ Ottawa University's Baseball in Literature and Culture Conference 🔎 Best Evidence 📷 Photo: AMC CLUB-ONLY NOTES 🔥 EHG Club Perk Links & How-To 💬 Get On Our Community Discord

Doug Liman has taken Rowdy Herrington's glorious 1989 feature Road House and remade it for Prime Video with Jake Gyllenhaal as a Dalton for the 21st century; Taylor S. Cole joins us to discuss whether it's a hard slap in the face to our memories of the original. Around The Dial takes us through Girls5eva, Lost, Homicide: New York, and Chicken Nugget. Taylor makes the case for inducting Andor's "One Way Out" into the Canon; then, after naming the week's Winner and Loser, we close up with a game about who's at whose throat. No throats are ripped out in the course of this episode, so feel free to listen! GUESTS 👤 Taylor Cole TOPICS Lead Topic: 👊 Road House Around The Dial: 🎙️ Girls5Eva Around The Dial: 🗺️ Lost Around The Dial: 🗽 Homicide: New York Around The Dial: 🟠 Chicken Nugget The Canon: ➡️ Andor S01.E10: One Way Out Winner & Loser: 👍 Cypress Hill Winner & Loser: 👎 Brian Austin Green Game Time: 😡 Nemeses SUPPORT THE SHOW 🔥 Join the EHG Club for bonus episodes, no ads, community Discord and more! 🛍️ Shop our merch store! NOTES 🗒 Full episode notes can be found on the episode 504 page on ExtraHotGreat.com 🐦 Taylor S. Cole on Twitter 💾 "Original 'Road House' Writer Sues Amazon, Alleges Streamer Used AI to Replicate Actors' Voices" at Variety.com 🎬 "The New 'Road House' Shows the Perils of Adapting Ridiculous 80s Movies" at DecodingEverything.com ✍🏻 Tara's interview with Girls5eva creator Meredith Scardino at Cracked 🍹 Tara's Palm Royale review at Cracked 🏙️ The Docket on Homicide: New York 📷 Photo: Laura Radford / Prime Video

Time was, the Extra Credit segment regularly appeared in the main episode. But with the expansion of the Patreon-exclusive Friday bonus episode, a lot of them snuck over there. We also just fell behind. So we're catching up: in this very special episode, we're addressing not one, not two, but NINE Extra Credit submissions with answers as considered as they are ridiculous. Cha-ching! TOPICS Extra Credit: 🎣 Hook Line And Sinker Extra Credit: 😮‍💨 Creative Compromise Extra Credit: 🏺 Historical Absurdity Extra Credit: 🫥 Insert Yourselves Extra Credit: 🗺️ Keoghan's Heroes Extra Credit: 🔪 New Benedict Arnolds Extra Credit: ✍🏻 Initial Similarities Extra Credit: 👵🏻 Everything Old Is Old Again Extra Credit: 🟤 Great TV Bezoars SUPPORT THE SHOW 🔥 Join the EHG Club for bonus episodes, no ads, community Discord and more! 🛍️ Shop our merch store! NOTES 🗒 Full episode notes can be found on the episode 503 page on ExtraHotGreat.com 🚬 NewsRadio: "Smoking" clip on YouTube

Guy Ritchie's 2019 movie has spun off a vaguely related drama series on Netflix; Will Leitch returns to discuss where it ranks in his filmography. Around The Dial takes us through Animal Control, The Curse, and As We Speak: Rap Music On Trial. Sarah makes the case for the Law & Order episode "Trophy" to be inducted into the Canon. Then, after naming the week's Winner and Loser, we play BALL (sometimes; sometimes not) with a sportsy Non-Regulation Game Time. Get to your club, pour some 18-year-old scotch, and join us! GUESTS 👤 Will Leitch TOPICS Lead Topic: 🎩 The Gentlemen Around The Dial: 🦝 Animal Control Around The Dial: 😈 The Curse Around The Dial: 🎤 As We Speak: Rap Music On Trial Around The Dial: 🏯 Shōgun The Canon: 🏆 Law & Order S06.E12: Trophy Winner & Loser: 👍 James Wolk Winner & Loser: 👎 Gary Goldsmith Game Time: 🙋🏼‍♀️ The World Series Of 19 Questions SUPPORT THE SHOW 🔥 Join the EHG Club for bonus episodes, no ads, community Discord and more! 🛍️ Shop our merch store! NOTES 🗒 Full episode notes can be found on the episode 502 page on ExtraHotGreat.com 🦋 Will Leitch on Bluesky 🥇 Will and Tim Grierson's Guy Ritchie movie ranking, at Vulture 🤣 Tara at Cracked.com 📚 Will's books at HarperCollins 🕺 The Will Leitch Experience 🎤 Sarah's review of As We Speak: Rap Music On Trial at Best Evidence 🔫 Best Evidence, where Sarah's interview with Manhunt author James L. Swanson will run later this week 📷 Photo: Kevin Baker / Netflix

The Good [X]-verse returns to network television with Elsbeth, a procedural starring Carrie Preston's capital-Q Quirky Elsbeth Tascioni -- and Adam Grosswirth returns to EHG to talk about how the show is trying to have it both ways with the character's historical anti-establishment attitude; whether these creators should have moved this set of shows' universe off of streaming; and what exactly is in all those massive tote bags. We went Around The Dial with Love Is Blind's sixth season, So You Think You Can Dance's surprise return, and Sarah's belated finishing of The Good Fight, and then we threw Tubi's tortured new brand identity into the ring of Will Dave Hate This?. Wendy told us about Tasha Yar in her Canon pitch for a Star Trek: The Next Generation episode before Netflix won, Paramount+ lost, and we confronted time rifts of our own during Game Time. Diaphragms, double spaces, and thee: it's an all-new Extra Hot Great! GUESTS 👤 Adam Grosswirth TOPICS Lead Topic: 🗽 Elsbeth Around The Dial: 👩‍🦯 Love Is Blind Around The Dial: 💃 So You Think You Can Dance Around The Dial: 🥊 The Good Fight Will Dave Hate This?: 🧪 Tubi branding The Canon: 🪐 Star Trek: The Next Generation S03.E15: Yesterday's Enterprise Winner & Loser: 👍 Netflix Winner & Loser: 👎 Paramount+ Game Time: ⏰ Where In Time Are These Nielsen Ratings? SUPPORT THE SHOW 🔥 Join the EHG Club for bonus episodes, no ads, community Discord and more! 🛍️ Shop our merch store! NOTES 🗒 Full episode notes can be found on the episode 501 page on ExtraHotGreat.com 🐸 More on Adam's Muppets podcast, Muppeturgy 👩‍🦯 Our discussion of Love Is Blind S05 in EHG 478 🕳️ The Tubi rebrand announcement 🐴 Tara's Dick Turpin review at Cracked 📻 Sarah's As We Speak: Rap Music On Trial review at Best Evidence 📷 Photo: Elizabeth Fisher / CBS

James Clavell's doorstop of a novel Shōgun was already adapted as a network miniseries when your three regular panelists were all kids. Now it's getting a cable and streaming take, and you know what that means: beheadings and boobs! Variety TV critic Alison Herman returns to join us in describing everything ELSE that's also going on. Around The Dial takes us through S03 of Abbott Elementary, S02 of Tokyo Vice, and the grand (or is it) finale of True Detective: Night Country. Returning submitter Francoise makes a case for the Better Things episode "Rising" to be inducted into the Canon. Then, after naming the week's Winner and Loser, it's on to The One Where We Wonder What Time It Is (it's Game Time). Put on your most sumptuous silks and join us! GUESTS 👤 Alison Herman TOPICS Lead Topic: 🏯 Shōgun Around The Dial: 🎒 Abbott Elementary Around The Dial: 🚨 Tokyo Vice Around The Dial: 👮 True Detective The Canon: 🏖️ Better Things Winner & Loser: 👍 Glaring SNL band member Winner & Loser: 👎 Netflix Game Time: 🏆 The One With The Canon Episodes SUPPORT THE SHOW 🔥 Join the EHG Club for bonus episodes, no ads, community Discord and more! 🛍️ Shop our merch store! NOTES 🗒 Full episode notes can be found on the episode 500 page on ExtraHotGreat.com 🐦 Alison Herman on Twitter 🏯 Alison's Shōgun review 👀 Tara's interview with Late Night With Seth Meyers writer Sal Gentile about A Closer Look at Cracked 🏥 Tara's review of The Second Best Hospital In The Galaxy at Cracked 📰 Alison at Variety 📚 True Detective magazine for sale at Exhibit B. Books 📷 Photo: Katie Yu / FX

When we threw a Zoom game night over the holidays for our Patreon supporters (hop down to join them!), Dave decided one was too good to play once. So we invited three of our Patreon supporters who hadn't made it to play it again. Listen to hear Taylor, Lucy, and (Bezoar) Laura try to decipher TV theme songs slowed WAY down; then, Dave hops in for a surprise round of 19 Questions. Don't just slow down everything else in your life: put it on pause and join us for this very special episode! TOPICS Game Time: 🐌 Slowly At First Game Time: 😖 Revenge Of 19 Questions SUPPORT THE SHOW 🔥 Join the EHG Club for bonus episodes, no ads, community Discord and more! 🛍️ Shop our merch store! NOTES 🗒 Full episode notes can be found on the episode 499 page on ExtraHotGreat.com