Just Between Us ...and Science: The Women’s Health Lab

About 1 in 2 pregnant women have pelvic girdle pain, from very mild to severe. For decades, the comment was: "It's only nine months. They have to clench the teeth and then stand it until the baby comes." Dr. Annelie Gutke treated those women the way she had been taught, as low-back pain, and they got worse. So she went and built the evidence.In this episode, Dr. Patrícia Mota speaks with Dr. Annelie Gutke, PT, PhD, Associate Professor in physiotherapy at the University of Gothenburg, primary-care clinical specialist in women's health, and co-creator of the Women in Motion digital programme. They cover what pelvic girdle pain is and how it differs from low-back pain, when to seek care, why "just rest" is poor advice, why eight weeks after birth is not the finish line, and what research still can't tell us.Brought to you by: Eleva.care — Your digital companion for women's health and recovery: https://eleva.careShow notes: https://podcast.patriciamota.com/episode/pelvic-girdle-pain-in-pregnancy-and-after-birth-common-is-not-normal-with-dr-annelie-gutkeWhere to find Dr. Annelie Gutke:University of Gothenburg: https://www.gu.se/en/about/find-staff/anneliegutkeResearch group, Women's health in motion: https://www.gu.se/en/research/womens-healthmoveORCID: https://orcid.org/0000-0003-3484-9769Where to find Patrícia Mota:Eleva Care: https://eleva.care/patimotaLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patimota/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/patricia_mota_pt_phd/Website: https://patriciamota.comPodcast: https://podcast.patriciamota.comGoogle Scholar: https://scholar.google.pt/citations?user=fNJsrScAAAAJResearchGate: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Patricia-Mota-4X: https://twitter.com/patimotaIn this episode, we cover:(0:00) Highlights(2:00) Meet Dr. Annelie Gutke(3:59) Brought to you by Eleva Care(4:32) Welcome, Annelie(5:32) From teenage hip pain to women's health(6:49) When back-pain treatment failed pregnant women(9:48) Pelvic girdle pain vs pelvic pain(11:10) Pelvic girdle pain vs low back pain(14:21) Can this be assessed online?(17:55) How common is pain in pregnancy, and when to seek care(19:34) Common, but not normal(22:08) Women in Motion: a digital program(25:46) What women taught the research team(29:03) What helps: daily life, movement, not rest(33:29) Little evidence yet? Ask the right questions(35:52) The first year after birth: get it done(38:57) Why we ask: what do you expect?(44:19) How the research group works together(48:14) Where women's health physiotherapy goes next(49:48) Advice for young physiotherapists(53:47) Key takeawaysFor inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email [email protected]: Dr. Annelie Gutke is an advisor to Eleva Care. Patrícia may be an investor in the companies discussed.Disclaimer: This podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute medical advice or a doctor-patient relationship. Always seek the advice of your physician, physiotherapist or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

In a national Brazilian survey of 10,070 women, 90.7% reported menstrual pain during their last cycle. Worldwide, pooled estimates suggest dysmenorrhea affects roughly 7 in 10 women. Pelvic floor symptoms have been normalized for generations — women's health physiotherapy has never been more necessary. This conversation explains why, and what actually helps.In this episode, Dr. Patrícia Mota speaks with Dr. Patrícia Driusso — Professor at UFSCar, coordinator of the Women's Health Research Lab (LAMU), COFFITO Women's Health specialist, former president of ABRAFISM, and co-author of a leading textbook on pelvic floor assessment (2nd ed., 2023). From menstrual pain and menopause to athletes, ColicApp, and education-first care, she shares the science and the call to stop normalizing pain.This episode is in Portuguese with English intro and outro.Brought to you by: Eleva.care — Your digital companion for women's health and recovery: https://eleva.careShow notes: https://podcast.patriciamota.com/episode/stop-normalizing-pain-evidence-based-pelvic-health-from-periods-to-menopauseTakeaways and References: https://femmefocus.beehiiv.com/p/stop-normalizing-pain-dr-patricia-driussoWhere to find Dr. Patrícia Driusso:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patricia-driusso-16b179105Lattes CV: http://lattes.cnpq.br/8898319491890063UFSCar: https://www.ppgft.ufscar.br/pt-br/programa/docentes-e-linhas-de-pesquisa/patricia-driussoBook: https://www.manole.com.br/avaliacao-fisioterapeutica-da-musculatura-do-assoalho-pelvico-feminino-2-edicao-/pWhere to find Patrícia Mota:Eleva Care: https://eleva.care/patimotaLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patimota/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/patricia_mota_pt_phd/Website: https://patriciamota.comPodcast: https://podcast.patriciamota.comGoogle Scholar: https://scholar.google.pt/citations?user=fNJsrScAAAAJResearchGate: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Patricia-Mota-4X: https://twitter.com/patimotaIn this episode, we cover:(0:00) Cold open(2:33) Introduction — Just Between Us(3:55) The conversation begins(4:39) Career and formation(8:32) Teaching women's health(10:08) Changes in the field(12:15) Motherhood and career(17:51) Book launch — pelvic floor assessment(19:36) Communication in physiotherapy(26:18) Menopause and pelvic floor research(27:16) PFMT and urinary incontinence(30:55) Climacteric and menopause(35:03) Menopause health impacts(35:51) Physical activity in menopause(41:32) Pelvic floor muscle training(43:35) Athletes and pelvic floor(50:56) ColicApp and menstrual pain(56:30) Health education for women(1:00:01) Vaginal birth preparation(1:05:15) Evidence-based practice(1:06:13) Closing — advice and future(1:11:59) Final reflections(1:14:50) OutroFor inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email [email protected]ícia may be an investor in the companies discussed.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

Nearly 300,000 preventable maternal deaths worldwide. Almost 1,500 cases of femicide in Brazil in 2024. Pelvic floor symptoms normalized for generations. Women's health physiotherapy is more necessary than ever — and this conversation explains exactly why.In this episode, Dr. Patrícia Mota speaks with Dr. Cristine Homsi Jorge — professor at the University of São Paulo (Ribeirão Preto Medical School), founder of ABRAFISM (the Brazilian Association of Physiotherapy in Women's Health), and Editor-in-Chief of the Brazilian Journal of Physical Therapy. With over 20 years dedicated to advancing physiotherapy in women's health, Dr. Cristine shares her journey, the science, and her call to action.This episode is in Portuguese with English intro and outro.Brought to you by: Eleva.care — Your digital companion for women's health and recovery: https://eleva.careShow notes: https://podcast.patriciamota.com/episode/what-no-one-tells-women-about-pelvic-floor-problems-dr-cristine-homsi-jorge-justbetweenusandscienceTakeaways and References: https://femmefocus.beehiiv.com/p/the-pelvic-floor-conversation-we-ve-been-avoidingWhere to find Dr. Cristine Homsi Jorge:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cristine_homsi/ResearchGate: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Cristine-HomsiGoogle Schoolar: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=Yx3ilW8AAAAJ&hlORCID: https://orcid.org/0000-0002-4956-4611Where to find Patrícia Mota: Eleva Care: https://eleva.care/patimotaLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patimota/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/patricia_mota_pt_phd/Website: https://patriciamota.comPodcast: ⁠https://podcast.patriciamota.com⁠Google Scholar: https://scholar.google.pt/citations?user=fNJsrScAAAAJResearchGate: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Patricia-Mota-4X: https://twitter.com/patimotaIn this episode, we cover:(0:00) Cold open — powerful moments from the conversation(1:21) Introduction — meet Dr. Cristine Homsi Jorge(3:24) The conversation begins — Cristine's journey into women's health(5:38) Her mother's influence — a feminist gynecologist who fought gender barriers(8:09) Why integral care goes beyond technique(11:06) Founding ABRAFISM — the Brazilian Association of Physiotherapy in Women's Health(14:48) International representation — World Physiotherapy and leadership(17:00) Pelvic health vs. women's health — why they are NOT the same(20:12) The threat of erasure — why specializing in women's health is NOT exclusion(23:01) Women's health is more necessary than ever — maternal deaths and gender violence data(27:52) Pelvic floor dysfunctions — research journey and breaking the taboo(34:30) What the evidence shows about pelvic floor training and sexual function(37:13) Public health message — women need to know their pelvic floor anatomy(41:05) Sexual dysfunction, health literacy, and the "elephant in the room"(43:52) Women who can't contract their pelvic floor — can they learn?(47:07) Research results — vaginal palpation, electrostimulation, and education compared(50:13) Campaign: More Physiotherapists in Maternity Wards(55:02) Brazil's alarming cesarean rates and the role of physiotherapy(59:25) Legislative achievements — laws in 3 states and a federal bill(1:02:13) Telerehabilitation — a study with gynecological cancer patients(1:08:22) Advantages and limitations of pelvic floor telerehabilitation(1:11:43) Final advice: overcome shame and seek help(1:12:53) Future plans and a message for the next generation of physiotherapists(1:18:17) Outro — three takeaways to hold ontoFor inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email [email protected]ícia may be an investor in the companies discussed.Disclaimer:The content provided in this podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment.

In this episode of Just Between Us … and Science: The Women’s Health Lab, Dr. Patrícia Mota sits down with Nina Theodorsen, researcher and clinician in women’s and pelvic health, to unpack one of the most misunderstood topics in pregnancy and postpartum care: exercise, diastasis recti, and fear of movement.Together, they explore how many women are still told to avoid movement during and after pregnancy — often without strong scientific evidence — and how this language can create unnecessary fear and disconnection from the body.Nina shares her journey into women’s health, how clinical experience shaped her research questions, and what current evidence really says about exercising during pregnancy. The conversation highlights why empowering women to move, strengthening rather than avoiding the body, and using precise, compassionate language matters — for both patients and clinicians.This episode is for pregnant and postpartum women, healthcare professionals, and anyone interested in evidence-based women’s health.We discuss:Diastasis recti and exercise — what the research actually showsWhy fear of movement still so common in pregnancyHow clinical language shapes women’s confidence and body imageThe role of clinicians in translating research into real careWhy collaboration and high-quality research matter in women’s healthBrought to you by: Eleva.care — Your digital companion for women's health and recovery: https://eleva.careShow notes: https://podcast.patriciamota.com/episode/pregnancy-diastasis-what-we-got-wrong-dr-nina-theodorsenWhere to find Dr. Nina Theodorsen:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nina-margrethe-theodorsen-bb82a625/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/niteth/ResearchGate: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Nina-TheodorsenUnivertity of Bergen: https://www4.uib.no/en/find-employees/Nina-Margrethe.Tennebekk.TheodorsenWhere to find Patrícia Mota:Eleva Care: https://eleva.care/patimotaLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patimota/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/patricia_mota_pt_phd/Website: https://patriciamota.comPodcast: https://podcast.patriciamota.comGoogle Scholar: https://scholar.google.pt/citations?user=fNJsrScAAAAJResearchGate: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Patricia-Mota-4X: https://twitter.com/patimotaIn this episode, we cover:(03:23) Introducing Nina Theodorsen(04:19) Nina’s Path Into Women’s & Pelvic Health(07:04) Political Advocacy in Women’s Health(09:35) Mentorship, Research & Academic Growth(17:18) Research Findings on Diastasis and Exercise(21:54) Fear of Movement in Pregnant Women(26:48) Studying Exercise Effects During Pregnancy(29:56) Challenging Misconceptions About Diastasis(31:16) How Language Shapes Fear and Confidence(34:55) Embracing Body Changes After Pregnancy(38:24) Encouraging Strength Training in Pregnancy(40:41) Why Guidelines on Exercise Need Updating(44:55) Research Quality and Clinical Practice(48:07) Evaluating Evidence as a Clinician(50:57) Evidence-Based Recommendations for Women(52:53) Clinicians as Bridges Between Research & Care(54:15) Addressing Fear and Empowering Movement(55:24) How Clinical Experience Shapes Research(56:37) Future Directions in Women’s Health Research(58:04) Advice for Pregnant Women & Clinicians(59:41) Encouragement for Women in Science(60:29) Upcoming Women’s Health Conference in OsloFor inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email [email protected]ícia may be an investor in the companies discussed.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

In this premiere episode of Just Between Us (and Science): The Women’s Health Lab, host Dr. Patrícia Mota sits down with Dr. Rubén Barakat, professor at the Polytechnic University of Madrid and one of the world’s leading researchers in maternal exercise science.They explore how movement transforms pregnancy — physically, mentally, and socially — and why collaboration between physiotherapists, exercise professionals, and medical teams is crucial for the future of women’s health.Dr. Barakat shares the story behind the Barakat Model, decades of research on prenatal exercise, and the impact of evidence-based practice on depression, hypertension, macrosomia, and postpartum recovery.This episode challenges myths about rest during pregnancy and reminds us that movement is medicine — when guided by science and empathy.We discuss:Exercise during pregnancy improves both physical and mental health.The Barakat Model promotes collaboration across disciplines.Supervised exercise can reduce prenatal and postpartum depression.Movement helps prevent urinary incontinence and gestational hypertension.Technology can help bring evidence-based health education to more women.Rest is not the solution — movement is medicine.Brought to you by: Eleva.care — Your digital companion for women's health and recovery: ⁠https://eleva.care⁠Show notes: ⁠https://podcast.patriciamota.com/episode/how-movement-redefines-pregnancy-dr-rubn-barakatWhere to find Dr. Rubén Barakat:ResearchGate: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ruben-BarakatUPM: https://www.ice.upm.es/we/mes/documentos/cv/2900.pdfWhere to find Patrícia Mota:Eleva Care: ⁠https://eleva.care/patimota⁠LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/patimota/⁠Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/patricia_mota_pt_phd/⁠Website: ⁠https://patriciamota.com⁠Podcast: ⁠https://podcast.patriciamota.com⁠Google Scholar: ⁠https://scholar.google.pt/citations?user=fNJsrScAAAAJ⁠ResearchGate: ⁠https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Patricia-Mota-4⁠X: ⁠https://twitter.com/patimotaIn this episode, we cover:(00:00) Hooks, Intro & Sponsor Message — "Just Between Us (and Science)" (03:43) Introduction & Context — Dr. Patrícia Mota and Dr. Rubén Barakat (07:24) Multidisciplinary Collaboration in Research — Building bridges between professionals (15:20) Exercise Professionals & Physiotherapists — How teamwork improves maternal care (20:57) Evidence-Based Impact — What science says about movement and pregnancy outcomes (27:26) Mental Health & Pregnancy — How exercise protects emotional well-being (35:53) The Barakat Model — A framework for active, safe pregnancies (46:56) Clinical Guidelines — Exercise prescription and recommendations (51:32) Misinformation & Myths — What social media gets wrong about pregnancy (59:28) Technology & Support — How digital tools can empower pregnant women (01:04:24) Practical Advice & Closing Thoughts — Movement as medicine for mothers (01:09:00) Reflections, call to action, and upcoming episodes For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email ⁠[email protected]⁠Patrícia may be an investor in the companies discussed.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.