Art Class Curator podcast

Art Class Curator

Cindy Ingram

This podcast is dedicated to empowering you to embrace teaching art with works of art. Each episode will dive deep into different aspects of teaching art - from passionate art teachers sharing their work, to mini trainings on art appreciation strategies that you can use in your classroom, to conversations about the highs and lows that come with being a teacher. Come back each week for an informative interview with an amazing art teacher!

83 Episodes

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    The State of Art Education with Mario Rossero


    I am so excited about today’s guest! Today, I talked to Mario Rossero, the Executive Director of the National Arts Education Association (NAEA). He had an exciting journey as an art teacher before joining the NAEA in January 2020, just before the world exploded. In this episode, we discuss his journey and experiences, but, most importantly, we discuss the direction of the NAEA and its priority as an organization.  02:08 - Mario talks about himself, his background, how he got into art education, his experience coordinating curriculum building for arts education, and teaching leadership through arts. 05:09 - Finding a role in art supervision and administration. 09:47 - Coordinating an arts program at the Central Office. 11:38 - Mario’s experience working in Chicago. 18:02 - Mario talks about his work with neighborhood art communities as the vice president for education at Kennedy Center. 20:55 -  How Mario got into the NAEA. 23:20 - The biggest challenge in art education. 27:55 - How strategy and welcoming decision-makers aid art education. 29:40 - How teachers can show the positive value proposition of art education. 32:40 - Resources for art teachers to learn art leadership. 34:22 - The challenge of policy and budget. 38:00 - How the events in 2020 affected Mario’s original vision for NAEA. 44:43 - The NAEA’s equity, diversity, and inclusion policy. 48:14 - Incorporating the ED&I framework into the continuous learning process. 50:37 - How to make space for inclusion and diversity. 52:40 - How a diverse approach to art learning improves art education. 55:20 - How the NAEA team responds to criticisms of the ED&I policy. 56:59 - What part of work is Mario currently excited about. 58:28 - The role of art-making in Mario’s life. 60:18 - Mario’s wall of art and drawing inspiration from them. 61:10 - The artwork that changed Mario’s life and how it aided a second-grade art class. Transcript at
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    Making Your Classroom Management Easier and Effective with Michael Linsin


    * This page contains affiliate links. As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases and will be awarded a small commission at no extra cost to you in the event of a sale. * Positive moments in the classroom don’t just spring up out of nowhere. A well-run classroom makes teaching and learning fun for you and your students... something Michael Linsin has spent years studying, practicing, and offering in his guides on his website.  Michael was one of my first interviews on the podcast. It’s among my favorites, and I want to share it again. So in this re-released episode, he offers his amazing tips and insights on best practices for effective classroom management planning and forming relationships with your students, with a special focus on art classrooms. 2:19​ - Michael’s #1 tip for being a fun and effective teacher 4:56 - What makes a good classroom management plan and why consequences really don’t matter 7:17 - The most effective way to teach your students the classroom rules 10:30 - How art teachers can find a balance between teaching the rules and teaching the lessons 13:55 - Why you might want to ditch filling out reflection forms as a consequence 16:29 - One important thing that can make running an effective classroom a bit easier 19:36 - How you can still leverage relationship-building with your students even if you have hundreds to teach 22:39 - When to transition away from time-outs and effective consequences for older students 26:19 - Why Michael doesn’t recommend a rewards system for your classroom 30:05 - What you can do to encourage your students to develop a motivation to do the work 32:21 - Why you must follow-through on your classroom management plan Transcript at
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    Treating Text and Art as a Sacred Practice for Growth with Vanessa Zoltan


    Guess who I have on as my guest today! Long-time listeners know that I love the Harry Potter and the Sacred Text podcast. One of the co-hosts, Vanessa Zoltan, has similar views about connecting with literature as I do with artwork. In this episode, she and I discuss her book Praying with Jane Eyre and how to use sacred text (or sacred art) as a tool to help you deal with some of life’s problems, do good in the world, and become a better person in the process. 2:24​ - Vanessa briefs us on her background in education and chaplaincy 4:46 - Vanessa explains why she loves Jane Eyre so much 8:15 - What it means for something to be sacred, according to Vanessa 10:22 - Exploring the idea of how treating text as sacred leads to treating your neighbor as sacred 16:35 - The gift Vanessa recently received while reading Jane Eyre that we can all heed 19:25 - A brief description of Vanessa’s book and why her chapter on destiny shook me so much 21:27 - How a recent controversy involving JK Rowling tested people’s capacity to separate art from the artist 26:05 - How problematic elements in Bronte’s Jane Eyre reflect a dark side of the U.S. 30:42 - How to find your own sacred text or art and work with it 36:02 - Why re-reading the same exact text can still produce a different experience every time 40:20 - The artwork that has changed Vanessa’s life for 20 years running Transcript at
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    Boost Student Engagement and Success with Social-Emotional Learning with Jeffrey Benson


    The percentage of U.S. students who graduate from high school has never been higher in our history. But have schools ever been structured, resourced, or intended to educate everybody’s child? During Jeffrey Benson’s time as a teacher, mentor, and administrator for over 40 years, he worked with neglected, abused, traumatized, and autistic students who struggled with mainstream education. He now focuses on helping schools be more successful with more students through a better understanding of how people learn. In this episode, he and I discuss social-emotional learning and how to use it to improve your lesson planning and boost your students’ engagement for greater success. 2:21​ - Jeffrey’s background and the unorthodox way his imagination helped him make lesson plans 7:18 - Exploring the meaningful question from Jeffrey’s webinar that I loved 11:26 - How Jeffrey defines social-emotional learning and its main characteristics 16:06 - So many examples of how Jeffrey would incorporate SEL into an art lesson 29:43 - The value of praising versus redirecting students in class 35:28 - Digging into the idea of positioning yourself as a learner while teaching 38:41 - Advice to help you be more intentional about adding SEL elements into your lesson plans 41:39 - Other simple ways you can intentionally put social-emotional learning at the forefront 45:55 - Jeffrey’s SEl recommendations for teachers 49:07 - The artwork that changed Jeffrey’s perspective on art Transcript at
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    Art as a Powerful Gateway for Conversations About Race with Dani Coke


    We sometimes talk about using art to make a difference. And while some may be cynical about that claim, my guest today isn’t one of them. Dani Coke has an incredible story to share about how her art went viral overnight, made a difference, and really changed her life, and she explains her artistic process. As you listen to her describe her journey, you’ll get chills at the power of her art, just like I did! 2:01​ - Dani briefly explains her history as a lover of art and creativity 5:56 - Dani reveals the events behind her art going viral on social media 11:45 - Dealing with the duality of personal, empowering success under awful circumstances 16:34 - COVID and Asian hate as an example of Dani’s process for creating art with a message 20:42 - How Dani manages to avoid dealing with people nitpicking her over semantics 25:07 - The teacher with an assumption about Dani that almost put her off the art path for good 30:01 - The chorus teacher who encouraged Dani on her creative journey 32:48 - Advice for teachers who want to have difficult conversations with their students about race, gender, and privilege 39:29 - Using your sphere of influence to bring about change for causes that matter most to you 43:43 - Where Dani gets her creative inspiration from and some book recommendations from her 47:48 - The work of art that changed Dani’s life Transcript at
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    Rediscovering the Emotional and Personal Power of Art


    In the wake of the pandemic last year, I recorded a conference, Called to Art, that brought together educators from across the U.S. It was an amazing experience where I used real-world examples of myself to discuss what we learn from looking at art, how we can become emotionally connected to particular pieces of art, and why you should show more works of art to your students. It was all about discovering and rediscovering the emotional power of art, and I want to share that presentation with you in today’s show. 3:50​ - How I developed my deep connection to art 10:36 - Why I switched from art history to art education 14:02 - A question to think about as you listen to the rest of the episode 16:02 - What you get out of art when you really slow down and look at it 20:36 - Embracing uncertainty and answers within through artwork 23:47 - The surprising amount of emotional fluency of the average person 29:37 - An exercise to discover your emotional connections with art 36:25 - Examples of my powerful, personal connections with art 49:06 - Four areas where you can prime your students to have their own emotional art connections Transcript at
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    Bringing the Past Into the Present: A 9/11 Memorial Artwork Case Study


    The 20th anniversary of 9/11 is right around the corner. So many people, including your students, weren’t alive when it happened. That’s shocking when you think about it because of how it changed our world practically overnight and still influences current events. So in this episode, I want to use the 9/11 Memorial artwork as a case study for bringing past (and present) events into the classroom and using art to process, reflect, practice empathy, and better understand complex issues. 4:57​ - How the 9/11 monument lesson inspired one particularly creative junior high student 8:59 - How art serves as a way for students to experience history, past and present 13:12 - A description of the memorial, who created it, and what it feels like to view it in person 20:10 - One of the lesson activities provided for the monument and other activity ideas 23:01 - Various ways you can apply this lesson (and others available in the Library) to your classroom 26:01 - How incorporating lessons like this can help you in other ways Transcript at
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    Pretty In Pictures: The Art and Business of Photography with Beryl Young


    Imagine that you’ve never experienced a whole lot of grief before. Then something devastating happens to you and leads to something beautiful. It happened to my guest today, Beryl Young. I’ve known her for several years, ever since I first started Art Class Curator at a blogger conference. Before working with teachers and schools on photography curriculum, she taught kindergarteners and 1st graders for 10 years. Listen as she shares the powerful story of how she started her photography business and how it’s evolved. 2:54​ - The painful incident that triggered Beryl's transition from photography hobbyist to entrepreneur 9:29 - How Beryl taught herself photography and what inspired her to create her first class 13:21 - How the pandemic served as a huge catalyst for Beryl to shift her business 21:04 - An overview of Beryl’s approach to the teentography curriculum 26:16 - Why Beryl focuses on making photography as accessible as possible 31:37 - Beryl discusses her teentography and kidtography kits 36:01 - The platform that changed Beryl’s life Transcript at
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    Why Picasso’s Guernica Paints Such a Powerfully Emotional Picture


    Art as a defensive weapon? It seems strange, but Pablo Picasso demonstrated its power in his painting Guernica. I’ve brought Jennifer Easterling back onto the show for another art conversation, and this time we discuss Picasso’s famous artwork. Both of us had strong gut reactions to it, so in this episode we talk about what it’s taught us and its importance in history. 1:47​ - Jenn recalls her reaction when she first laid eyes on Guernica  6:02 - I discuss my unexpected emotional experience seeing it in person  9:10 - Painting a picture of what this Picasso artwork looks like  14:20 - The diabolical history behind why Picasso created this painting 18:21 - Why we had such a strong reaction to seeing Guernica in person 21:48 - How the pandemic impacted Jenn’s connection with the artwork 25:18 - Legacy of the Jewish woman who secretly taught art to children in a concentration camp 33:06 - What I kept seeing in my mind when I went to view the painting 37:26 - Picasso’s ultimatum and Guernica’s lengthy journey from Paris to Spain 42:22 - Picasso’s view on symbolism in art 44:51 - Discussing the symbolism we see in his painting 48:08 - A difference I noticed in his drawings versus the final painting 54:08 - Picasso’s experimentation with the drawings 56:40 - How our husbands reacted to Guernica Transcript at
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    Getting Great at Grant Proposal Writing with Barbara Lardner


    Does the idea of writing a grant proposal intimidate you? Barbara Lardner is an art teacher who’s taught in multiple grade levels throughout elementary, middle, and high school for over 25 years. She also happens to be an expert at grant writing for the classroom. So in this episode, I’ve invited her on to share her experiences, tips, and best practices for how you can write a great grant proposal. 2:56​ - How Barbara was granted a trip to Paris 5:14 - Different types of grants offered and where to begin your search 8:54 - Crucial tips, steps, and goals to begin the grant writing proposal process 14:49 - One thing you might need (and shouldn’t put off) when writing your proposal 18:47 - Examples of vagueness, specificity, and clarity in proposal writing 22:49 - Why Barbara missed out on receiving an extra $2,000 for her school this year 24:39 - The kind of assessment requirements you need to follow after you get a grant 28:06 - Advice for making the grant writing process easier and less scary 31:11 - What to do before you finally submit your application 35:50 - Recap and more tips and best practices for writing your grant proposal 38:49 - Biggest piece of advice that gave Barbara the grant to attend graduate school 41:44 - What sparked Barbara’s interest in art as a 4-year-old Transcript at

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