
Former National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan on What Xi and Putin Are Really Like Behind Closed Doors (#254)
6/17/2025
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Jake Sullivan spent four years at the highest level of U.S. foreign policy—sitting across the table from Vladimir Putin, Xi Jinping, and leading the national response to crises like Ukraine, Taiwan, cyberattacks, and AI risks.
He shares a rare look behind the scenes of global power, including: what intelligence gets wrong (and why); how AI, drones & disinformation are reshaping war; why the U.S. is more vulnerable than it seems and what a China-Taiwan conflict might actually look like.
His insights are sharp, urgent—and surprisingly personal.
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