B2B Stablecoin Payments are Hot Right Now Ft. Rob Hadick

On Ep. 58 of Tokenized, Cuy Sheffield, Head of Crypto @ Visa, is joined by Sam McIngvale, Head of Product @ OP Labs and Lesley Chavkin, Ribbit Capital to discuss agentic commerce, traditional AI vs agentic AI and more!Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:35 Defining agentic commerce and its impact on shopping04:50 How agentic AI enables personalization at scale06:44 Differences between traditional AI and agentic AI09:24 The shift from reactive to proactive banking13:46 Current adoption curve for agentic AI in finance15:01 Promising use cases for agentic AI in commerce17:27 Autonomous agents and redefining customer engagement21:45 Barriers to adopting AI at scale in organizations26:38 Building trust and managing risk in AI decisionsTokenized is sponsored by VisaA world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.Tokenized is presented by Bridge, a Stripe company.Just like the internet made information global, stablecoins are making money global. And Bridge, a Stripe company, is the infrastructure powering that shift. Built for speed, scale, and simplicity, Bridge helps businesses send, store, convert, and spend stablecoins instantly, all without borders or having to navigate the complexities of crypto. Learn more at bridge.xyzTokenized is also presented by CentrifugeWith over $1 billion in total value locked, Centrifuge works with major institutional partners to tokenize and distribute their funds — and with capital allocators onchain to invest and manage yield. Through every crypto cycle, Centrifuge has been building — and today, it’s the market leader in tokenizing real-world assets. Learn more at centrifuge.io***We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research! Music by Henry McLean

On Ep. 2 of Agentic Commerce, Cuy Sheffield, Head of Crypto @ Visa, and Bam Azizi, CEO & Founder @ Mesh are joined by Louis Amira, Co-Founder & CEO @ Circuit & Chisel to discuss the evolution of agentic commerce protocols, explosive growth of the x402 protocol and more!Timestamps:00:00 Introduction06:16 Evolution of agentic commerce protocols11:57 Fragmentation in crypto and agentic payments17:14 Different protocols for different use cases22:07 Building agents to bootstrap protocols30:14 Explosive growth of the x402 protocol35:45 The need for micro-transactions between agents39:42 Crypto wallets as universal API keysTokenized is sponsored by VisaA world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.Tokenized is also presented by MeshAs the first global crypto payments network, Mesh connects over 300 wallets, exchanges and payments platforms, and enables anyone to pay and get paid instantly, anywhere, in any asset. Mesh makes digital transactions seamless, secure and universal, fuelling the next era of agentic commerce. Learn more at meshpay.com***We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research! Music by Henry McLean

In this bonus episode of Tokenized recorded at Money20/20, Cuy Sheffield, Head of Crypto @ Visa is joined by Paul Frambot, Co-Founder & CEO @ Morpho to discuss on-chain lending in 2025 and more!Timestamps:00:00 Introduction02:09 Stablecoins as checking accounts02:58 The evolution of DeFi and smart contract lending03:59 Transition from crypto collateral to real-world assets07:24 Building trust for uncollateralized on-chain lending09:13 Morpho's shift from application to infrastructure11:57 Transparency benefits of on-chain lending protocols13:27 Permissionless infrastructure with compliance capabilities14:37 Banks integrating with on-chain lending networks16:16 Global cross-border lending and regulatory approach***This episode is brought to you by VisaA world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.***We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research!Music by Henry McLean

On Ep. 57 of Tokenized, Simon Taylor, GTM @ Tempo is joined by Joao Reginatto, Chief Strategy Officer @ M0, Mark Greenberg, Global Head of Consumer @ Kraken and Kevin Lehtiniitty, CEO @ Borderless to discuss M0 and MoonPay partnership for stable coin issuance, benefits of companies creating their own stablecoins and more!Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:38 M0 and MoonPay partnership for stablecoin issuance05:16 Benefits of companies creating their own stablecoins06:03 Consumer confusion with multiple stablecoin options09:07 JP Morgan's deposit token on Base network10:48 Tokenized deposits vs stablecoins debate20:57 Cash App integrating stablecoins for users28:57 Circle's on-chain FX engine and ARC chain37:09 Coinbase's token offering platform and UK savings account44:52 SoFi Bank launches in-app crypto tradingTokenized is sponsored by VisaA world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.Tokenized is presented by Bridge, a Stripe company.Just like the internet made information global, stablecoins are making money global. And Bridge, a Stripe company, is the infrastructure powering that shift. Built for speed, scale, and simplicity, Bridge helps businesses send, store, convert, and spend stablecoins instantly, all without borders or having to navigate the complexities of crypto. Learn more at bridge.xyzTokenized is also presented by FireblocksWith over $100 billion in monthly stablecoin volume, Fireblocks powers stablecoin strategies at scale with infrastructure that enables PSPs, fintechs, remitters and banks to issue, move, hold, and manage stablecoins. And it’s all done securely, at scale, and with built-in compliance. Learn more at fireblocks.com***We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research! Music by Henry McLean

On Ep. 6 of Stablecoin Stats, Anthony Yim, Co-Founder @ Artemis and Andrew Van Aken, Data Scientist @ Artemis are joined by Rob Hadick, General Partner @ Dragonfly to discuss explosive growth in B2B stablecoin payment volumes, the impact of stablecoins on traditional banking and more!Timestamps:00:00 Introduction06:09 Explosive growth in B2B stablecoin payment volumes10:20 Limited P2P stablecoin growth and market dynamics14:42 Distribution of stablecoin usage in payments and lending18:27 Stablecoin issuers are expanding services to compete with banks23:38 On-chain card spend growth and Visa settlement integration29:11 Early stage opportunities and challenges with agentic commerce32:50 Reviewing the winners in the stablecoin payments landscape35:20 The impact of stablecoins on traditional banking and PlaidThis episode is brought to you by VisaA world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.This podcast is powered by Artemis***We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research! Music by Henry McLean

On Ep. 56 of Tokenized, Simon Taylor, GTM @ Tempo, and Cuy Sheffield, Head of Crypto @ Visa, are joined by Haonan Li, CEO & Co-Founder @ Codex and Stone Atwine, CEO @ Co-Founder @ Eversend to discuss Jamie Dimon on stablecoins, financial institutions shifting from strategy to execution on stablecoins and more!Timestamps:00:00 Introduction03:10 Ripple's acquisition strategy and expansion into custody services06:26 Evolution of custody services and embedded wallet solutions11:27 Ripple's equity valuation versus XRP token dynamics13:44 Jamie Dimon and Larry Fink on tokenization and stablecoins17:54 Interplay between tokenized assets and stable coins as collateral20:30 Streaming money versus net settlement in payment systems25:23 Stablecoins for unidirectional cross-border payment collections29:28 Securitize going public as a tokenization-focused company34:44 Financial institutions shifting from strategy to execution on stablecoinsTokenized is sponsored by VisaA world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.Tokenized is presented by Bridge, a Stripe company.Just like the internet made information global, stablecoins are making money global. And Bridge, a Stripe company, is the infrastructure powering that shift. Built for speed, scale, and simplicity, Bridge helps businesses send, store, convert, and spend stablecoins instantly, all without borders or having to navigate the complexities of crypto. Learn more at bridge.xyzTokenized is also presented by CentrifugeWith over $1 billion in total value locked, Centrifuge works with major institutional partners to tokenize and distribute their funds — and with capital allocators onchain to invest and manage yield. Through every crypto cycle, Centrifuge has been building — and today, it’s the market leader in tokenizing real-world assets. Learn more at centrifuge.io***We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research! Music by Henry McLean

On Ep. 1 of Agentic Commerce, Simon Taylor, GTM @ Tempo, and Bam Azizi, CEO & Founder @ Mesh are joined by Jeff Weinstein, Product Lead @ Stripe and Steve Kaliski, Principal Software Engineer @ Stripe to discuss the role of AI agents in the future economy and more!Timestamps:00:00 Introduction02:32 The role of AI agents in the future economy05:00 Moving from search-based discovery to AI-assisted execution10:00 Stablecoins as a global, borderless payment method for agents15:00 Managing payment failure modes in agentic commerce flows20:00 How agents will change consumer shopping behavior25:00 New business models and fraud patterns with AI agents30:00 Token-based billing and usage for AI services35:00 Open standards and competition in agentic paymentsTokenized is sponsored by VisaA world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.Tokenized is also presented by MeshAs the first global crypto payments network, Mesh connects over 300 wallets, exchanges and payments platforms, and enables anyone to pay and get paid instantly, anywhere, in any asset. Mesh makes digital transactions seamless, secure and universal, fuelling the next era of agentic commerce. Learn more at meshpay.com***We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research! Music by Henry McLean

On Ep. 55 of Tokenized, Simon Taylor, GTM @ Tempo is joined by Dan Mottice, CEO & Co-Founder @ Beam, Itai Turbahn, Co-founder & CEO @ Dynamic, Matt Marcus, CEO & Co-Founder @ Modern Treasury and Michael Shaulov, Co-Founder & CEO @ Fireblocks to discuss Modern Treasury's acquisition of Beam for payment infrastructure, Fireblocks acquires Dynamic for embedded wallet infrastructure and more!Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:10 Modern Treasury's acquisition of Beam for payment infrastructure04:39 Challenges and solutions in implementing stablecoin technology07:06 Fintech and crypto rails merging into unified financial rails09:37 Benefits of stablecoin backed accounts for businesses12:20 The importance of ledgering systems in stablecoin operations16:23 Mastercard's potential acquisition of zerohash for crypto services24:28 Stablecoin volume growth decoupling from crypto price action28:18 IBM partners with DFNS for mainframe digital asset custody31:05 Fireblocks acquires Dynamic for embedded wallet infrastructureTokenized is sponsored by VisaA world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.Tokenized is presented by Bridge, a Stripe company.Just like the internet made information global, stablecoins are making money global. And Bridge, a Stripe company, is the infrastructure powering that shift. Built for speed, scale, and simplicity, Bridge helps businesses send, store, convert, and spend stablecoins instantly, all without borders or having to navigate the complexities of crypto. Learn more at bridge.xyzTokenized is also presented by FireblocksWith over $100 billion in monthly stablecoin volume, Fireblocks powers stablecoin strategies at scale with infrastructure that enables PSPs, fintechs, remitters and banks to issue, move, hold, and manage stablecoins. And it’s all done securely, at scale, and with built-in compliance. Learn more at fireblocks.com***We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research! Music by Henry McLean

On Ep. 54 of Tokenized, Simon Taylor, GTM @ Tempo, and Cuy Sheffield, Head of Crypto @ Visa, are joined by Diogo Monica, GP @ Haun Ventures and Michelle O'Connor, Founder @ The Digital Future to discuss Tempo's $500M funding round, the rise of vertically integrated payment blockchains and more!Timestamps:00:00 Introduction03:02 Tempo's $500M funding round and strategic acquisitions05:23 The rise of vertically integrated payment blockchains07:33 Evolution of stable coins and multi-chain competition13:12 The spectrum of blockchain decentralization and requirements20:03 Ripple's acquisition of G Treasury for corporate treasury23:56 Ripple's M&A strategy and RLUSD stable coin integration30:11 Regulatory and global challenges for corporate treasury35:42 Fed's proposed payments account and master account access40:49 Stable coins and the future of narrow bankingTokenized is sponsored by VisaA world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.Tokenized is presented by Bridge, a Stripe company.Just like the internet made information global, stablecoins are making money global. And Bridge, a Stripe company, is the infrastructure powering that shift. Built for speed, scale, and simplicity, Bridge helps businesses send, store, convert, and spend stablecoins instantly, all without borders or having to navigate the complexities of crypto. Learn more at bridge.xyzTokenized is also presented by CentrifugeWith over $1 billion in total value locked, Centrifuge works with major institutional partners to tokenize and distribute their funds — and with capital allocators onchain to invest and manage yield. Through every crypto cycle, Centrifuge has been building — and today, it’s the market leader in tokenizing real-world assets. Learn more at centrifuge.io***We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research! Music by Henry McLean

On Ep. 1 of Stablecoin Stories, Cuy Sheffield, Head of Crypto @ Visa and Ran Goldi, VP Payments, Fireblocks are joined by Kash Razzaghi, Chief Commercial Officer @ Circle to discuss Circle's multi-chain approach and the Arc blockchain, the difference between using and issuing stablecoins and more!Timestamps:00:00 Introduction02:34 Kash's journey from tech to Circle and USDC09:02 Early USDC growth and DeFi partnership strategy13:35 The SVB banking crisis and USDC depeg event18:06 Problem-solving during the banking crisis weekend19:13 Evolution of USDC in the payments ecosystem21:35 Regulatory compliance and infrastructure for global adoption24:01 Circle's multi-chain approach and the Arc blockchain30:51 Circle's evolution into an internet finance platform31:21 The difference between using and issuing stablecoinsTokenized is sponsored by VisaA world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.Tokenized is also presented by FireblocksWith over $100 billion in monthly stablecoin volume, Fireblocks powers stablecoin strategies at scale with infrastructure that enables PSPs, fintechs, remitters and banks to issue, move, hold, and manage stablecoins. And it’s all done securely, at scale, and with built-in compliance. Learn more at fireblocks.com***We’d also like to remind you that the views or opinions of our contributors today are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the companies they are representing. Nothing we say should be taken as tax, financial, investment or legal advice, do your own research! Music by Henry McLean