1045: January 6 Was a Dress Rehearsal For Trump, Not a Finale (w/ Tom Jocelyn)
6/1/2026
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Five years after January 6, Bill Kristol sits down with Tom Jocelyn, the lead writer of the House January 6 Committee report, to assess where the country stands today. They give their takes on why January 6 was not an endpoint, but the beginning of a new political reality: one defined by a lack of accountability with sweeping pardons, the normalization of political violence, and a movement that no longer accepts elections or constitutional limits.
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