96 | Stop Pitching, Start a Relationship: Ethan Mayers on What Investors Really Want
In this episode Jayla Siciliano sits down with Ethan Mayers, also known as "The Pitch Destroyer," to unpack what investors actually want, how founders should approach fundraising, and why relationship-building matters more than "the ask". Ethan shares hard-won perspective from years of helping founders sharpen their pitch, build stronger investor relationships, and understand the real purpose of a pitch deck: not to close a deal, but to start a conversation. He explains why investors are often looking for reasons to say no, how founders can better prepare for tough questions, and why the strongest pitch decks create curiosity, not just information. The conversation also digs into how founders should think about funding strategy, especially in categories like CPG where venture capital is often not the best fit. Ethan makes the case for defining success on your own terms, choosing the right type of capital for your business model, and considering alternative funding paths like angels, strategics, corporate venture, revenue-based options, and more. In this episode, you'll learn: Why investors are usually trying to de-risk, not "fall in love" with a deal How to treat a pitch deck as the beginning of a relationship Why fundraising should not replace building the business How to identify the right type of capital for your company Why CPG founders should think beyond VC How to define success in a way that fits your goals, not someone else's What makes a founder feel investable in today's market Key takeaways: Investors want inevitability, not perfection Relationship-building starts long before you ask for money The best founders know when to say "I don't know" Not every business is meant to chase venture-scale growth A durable, profitable business can be a stronger outcome than a unicorn exit About Ethan M. Ethan M. is a venture partner, mentor, and the force behind Post Unicorn Capital, where he tracks capital innovation trends and advocates for broader definitions of entrepreneurial success. He works with founders around the world to help them build stronger companies and navigate the evolving fundraising landscape. https://www.linkedin.com/in/ethanmayers/ Need help? Join Jayla's FREE monthly Seed Money Office Hours call to ask your real funding questions and get more clarity on funding strategy, investor materials, pitching, finding investors, and how to close. Save your spot: https://seedmoney.mysamcart.com/office-hours About Your Host Jayla Siciliano is an entrepreneur with 25+ years in consumer brands, product, and marketing. After raising her first angel round against all odds and later appearing on Shark Tank, where she closed a deal with Mark Cuban, she now helps founders become fundable, confident, and ready to attract the right investors. Entrepreneurship changed her life, and she's on a mission to help first-time founders raise their first round of angel funding and change theirs too. Disclaimer The information in this podcast is educational and general in nature and does not take into consideration the listener's personal circumstances. Therefore, it is not intended to be a substitute for specific, individualized financial, legal, or tax advice.