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Lingual Infiltrations and Adrenaline for Cardiac Risk Patients (Part 2) – PDP144

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As you may recall from the first part of this series, Dr. Wayne William is an amazing dentist in our community who has been kind enough to share his insights into local anaesthetics with us. Today we'll be talking about the second half of this topic: The most commonly used anesthetic agents used by GDPs (and why we should ditch one)Is it safe to inject lingually? Adrenaline for Cardiac Risk Patients - is it really a worry? https://youtu.be/E9q4t5z7LdI Check out this full episode on YouTube Download Protrusive App on iOS and Android and Claim your Verifiable CPD/CE by answering a few questions + You can get EARLY ACCESS to the episode + EXCLUSIVE content The Protrusive Dental Pearl: Do NOT use the technique of lingual infiltration that I did! There IS a better way! (Lingual Infiltrations are not bad - just the way I did them was not ideal) If you’re curious what technique that was, Protrusive Premium will get to see it in the middle of this episode including Dr Williams' 'live' unedited, uncut reaction. This is GOLDEN content! Need to Read it? Check out the Full Episode Transcript below! Highlights of this episode: 4:34 The Protrusive Dental Pearl 5:38 Large red headed people are difficult to numb. Is it a myth or is it real?8:29 Lingual Infiltrations17:02 Adrenaline being avoided for certain patients23:49 Adrenaline for Cardiac Risk Patients  Occlusion: Basics and Beyond is the most tangible, real-world, and comprehensive occlusion training on the planet. Get the OBAB One-Time Pre-Launch Deal which SOLD OUT - the only way now is the Waiting List as IAS are preparing 20 extra starter kits. Be sure to watch the first part of this episode: Articaine ID Blocks and the ‘CIA Technique’ for Local Anaesthetic Click below for full episode transcript: Jaz's Introduction: Welcome back Protruserati to Articaine ID Blocks Part Two. How good was part one? Thanks to Dr. Wayne Williams. [Jaz]What I love about bread and butter episodes like these is the engagement it gets from the community. So you guys, Protruserati on the Instagram app @protrusivedental, had some really interesting things today. Like for example, Cony, Cony Caravotas we met in Brighton and also at the Finlay Sutton course. Hope you're doing well. She said that she hasn't done an ID block since 2009, so that was 14 years ago. That is bloody impressive, right? I told you I do about one a month. Coney hasn't done once in 2009. She said, buccal articaine infiltrations all the way. And there were loads of comments just like that about how we're all getting really good results with buccal articaine. But of course, Dr. Wayne Williams suggested that it's only really appropriate for single tooth procedures. But I know many of you, including myself on many occasions, use it for quadrant dentistry in the lower molar. Now, I wouldn't use it, like I said in the previous episode of people with large bones, large heads, big bony exostosis. But for the average person, I think it does work well in my hands, and that's what it's all about. Don't change your technique if something is working well, unless there's more efficiency, more safety involved, or lower cost involved. But if you're not compromising a lot on those areas and something is working well in your hands, I wouldn't change anything about your protocol as long as you're safe, efficient, and cost effective. So more power to anyone who's getting great success with buccal articaine. I personally will say that by putting it in the attached gingiva. Now, something that, @ohheyitsdoctoralbert also said on Instagram is the importance of attached gingiva. I find that the attached gingiva retains it, and probably by going in the attached gingiva I'm entering that coal area that Dr. Wayne Williams talked about in the first episode, and therefore, these em mystery canals, these holes in the mandible to allow our anesthetic to get in the right place. So if you are not getting good results like our colleagues are with buccal articaine, consider putting some in the attached gingiva instead of just going supra periosteal near the apical area and expecting it to diffuse into the bone. Like Wayne said in the last episode, it's not as simple as that. One thing I have changed about my technique after talking to Dr. Wayne Williams is although I'm very slow with my anesthetic, I sometimes speed up towards the end, for a subperiosteal, which I won't be doing so much anymore. But I think the key point was just always keep it slow and reduce the pressure. Another thing actually I will be changing because a lot of things I won't be changing because it's working well on my hands. But a big thing that will be changing is as a result of this part two, you're going to find it pretty interesting what happens in part two. Just have a listen or have a watch if you are on the Apple, YouTube to this part. I've got a few videos I've taken of me giving a lingual infiltration and like if I've done a crap job and I'm doing something dangerous. Say it live on air. I mean, it's, we're not live, but you know what I mean. Say it on the podcast. It's a learning thing for me. And I thought, okay, wow. I get to show someone who's so experienced and written about local aesthetics and I get to show you this video. So, please, if I'm doing anything wrong, I want to learn and I want everyone else to learn if I'm doing something wrong, if I'm doing something right, please, please let me know as well. So a cool segment of this episode will be me showing you those videos, which I'm very excited and nervous about. So actually show Dr. Wayne Williams the technique of giving a lingual infiltration the way. I have seen a specialist oral surgeon do it. The story is that I was shadowing a oral surgeon and I saw him do his very interesting lingual infiltration where I thought it was at the time, and I've sort of copied him. Okay, he's a specialist. He knows what he's doing. So I've been copying him and I've been getting, yeah, okay results. But I had this doubt in my mind, is this something that could be made safer? And is it really respecting the anatomy in the best way? Is there a better way that I could give this lingual infiltration? Do you remember way back when if you're a original Protruserati, you might remember episode 37. That was in, that was three years ago. My goodness. We had Dr. Shaz Memon and what we did is live on the show. I got him to critique my website. Right. And it was embarrassing because my website sucked and it still sucks cause I haven't updated it. Right. But it was an interesting and cool thing to do and I was happy to do it. And it was embarrassing for me, but it's fine. I'm happy to put myself out there for you guys. Now, I did the same thing here. But with a really high quality clinical video that I recorded showing him how I do my lingual infiltrations. Protrusive Dental PearlAnd so the Protrusive Dental Pearl is, don't do what I did. The technique that I showed him is not a recognized technique and it shouldn't be used. And even though that oral surgeon did it, Dr. Wayne Williams, whose opinion I highly trust, told me there's a better way, which that's why I certain I'm going to be changing my technique now. I'm not going to just expose myself and embarrass myself willy-nilly. This is only for Protrusive Premium members. So if you're on Protrusive Premium, you're going to see the whole bit where actually entire video, the same video that Dr. Wayne Williams saw his reaction to it and his feedback in terms of what I should change. Main Episode:And I'm happy to make a fool of myself and share that with you guys. So if you're on Protrusive Premium, you'll get to see all of that. If you're not, then it's okay. I still love you. I still respect you, but you have to understand the feedback that I got in the video that I showed him was absolutely golden and well worth the cost of a $9 per month. And to give you a teaser, this is the way that Dr. Wayne Williams reacted. [Wayne]I'm sorry, I've never seen that described anywhere. I'm not sure it's needed. I'm not sure what the benefits of it are. Yeah, I'm not in favor of that technique. [Jaz]So let's join Dr. Wayne Williams to continue on that cliffhanger we left you at, at the end of part one. Should we fear the large headed redhead? Is that true or false, that myth, or is that real? And any strategies to help the large headed redhead if it's true. [Wayne]So I'm not aware of the redhead. The large I can kind of understand cause it comes back to an anatomy and physiology and understanding and that's always my starting point on all the courses I present on all the teaching I do globally. It's always going learn the anatomy, number one. Then understand the physiology, then the chemistry, and then we go to the techniques. But it has to be in that audio. Don't try and go for the techniques and then work your way back. You have to have the anatomy, physiology, and pharmacology behind you. But, so there's different ways I would approach a red head from now that I've heard you and Lincoln say that. And great program by Lincoln, by the way, with yourself as well. High respect to him and basically the guys I'd be more interested in for you and other colleagues in this country would be class three. People with Class three, mandible. Well described in, I brought this textbook along because this is what changed my life 25 years ago. [Jaz]Just for the listeners, can you just say the name of it for the listeners that were listening. [Wayne]Sorry because I know it's Hazards of local Anesthetic Injections by Daniel Barnard. Same type of Barnard who did the first heart transplant. Possibly a family member, gentleman who I learned almost everything I know about local anesthesia from certainly the hazardous approach to it. A valuable, valuable piece of literature.

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