Pop Apologists

Jaci and Chelsey of the What We Said podcast stop by to swap the most unhinged things we've done for a crush. No shred of dignity is spared, and listener submissions range from good advice to straining credulity. Including but not limited to: a fake Facebook boyfriend named Henry Garrett, a Jonas Brothers concert confession, trust funds and private planes, and mastermind-level manipulation. (00:00:51) 🧵 Chelsey x Chanler Invisible String — Chanler's BYU crush on Chelsey's brother Ladd (00:03:43) 🏢 Apartment Hierarchies of Provo — Crucial mapping of King Henry to the elite Village (00:07:31) 💌 Lauren's Dalliance with Henry Garrett — Inventing a fake Facebook suitor with an accidentally notable face (00:24:53) 🦓 Zebra Undies 4 Joe Jonas — Twelve-year-old Chanler's zebra undies prepared for Joe Jonas (00:30:25) 🏎️ A Carrie Underwood-esque Approach to Revenge — Listener rips wires from a cheating trust-fund boyfriend's vintage Porsche (00:35:28) 🪂 Parachutist Proposal (Urban Legend?) — A hired parachutist delivering champagne to a lake, and other suspect submissions (00:44:02) 🙈 Extreme Levels of Desperation — Fake condom pregnancies, self-portrait binders, and butt inserts worn on dates Nature’s Sunshine: Go to https://www.naturessunshine.com today and use the code POP for 20% off your first order, plus free shipping. Progressive: Bundle and save with Progressive today at http://www.progressive.com Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

To be a part of our upcoming Book Club, shop HER KIND by Sophie Lefens from Harper Collins https://amzn.to/4BkzHdLBethenny Frankel takes to TikTok for a zinger of an Andy Cohen clapback, Sofia Franklyn releases an eye-opening excerpt from her impending autobiography “Daddy Issues”, and engagement buzz around Kylie Jenner & Timothée Chalamet. As if we needed more to digest, there are newly leaked details from Taylor Swift’s wedding.(00:01:44) 📚 Pop Apologist’s Cute Cozy Book Cult — introducing our new quarterly free book club, more details to come!(00:06:01) 👨‍⚕️ Chanler’s Stirring Celebrity Sighting — just feet away from our north star of older men(00:12:55) 👶 Lauren’s Having Twins — the Atkin-twins are at twenty-two weeks!(00:15:47) 📺 Bethenny Frankel Claps Back at Bravo Fanfest — Bethenny Frankel’s TikTok tagline swipe at Andy Cohen over ratings(00:23:38) 📖 Sofia Franklyn’s Sobering Book Excerpt — Sofia Franklyn’s book excerpt on her abortion and the emotions of being eclipsed by Alex Cooper(00:40:00) 💍 Kylie Jenner’s Feeling Engagement Pressure — Kylie Jenner’s alleged engagement pressure amid Kendall and Jacob’s romance(00:47:28) 🎠 Taylor’s Wedding Photos?! — the leaked seven-million-dollar carousel and manmade pond that were cut from the wedding(00:53:07) ⚖️ Thomas Markle Sr. Allegations — disturbing allegations against Thomas Markle Sr. uncovered in the Philippines + Meghan’s response(01:04:56) 🏈 Tom Brady’s Newest Lady — Tom Brady reportedly dating Candice Swanepoel and we are cheers-ing to a more age appropriate chapter for this GOATEarly Bird CBD: Visit https://www.EarlyBirdCBD.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% offHero Bread: Go to https://www.hero.co and use code POP at checkout for 10% off your order.Ladder Technologies: Head to https://www.ladder.fit/POP and take a quick quiz to find your perfect Ladder plan. Use my link and get a free 7-day trial with NO credit card, and $10 off your first month if you join.Ritual: Get early access to Ritual’s Black Friday Sale for 40% off your first order when you visit https://www.Ritual.com/POP.Progressive: Don’t wait, get your quote today at http://www.progressive.comMacy’s: Shop cashmere sweaters in stores or online at http://www.macys.comPlease note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Check out Sophie's new novel, HER KIND out now from Harper Collins https://amzn.to/4BkzHdLOur very smart friend and debut novelist, Sophie Lefens, stops by to dig deep into the documentary You Can See Everything. Plus, we review Sophie's poignant novel, Her Kind, about motherhood and female relationships.(00:02:41) 🩸 Elizabeth Holmes Documentary — the three-hour Elizabeth Holmes documentary leaving more questions than answers(00:04:18) 🤔 Manipulative or Delusional? — debating whether Holmes is a master manipulator or operating under a different reality(00:17:51) 🏖️ Beach House Setting — the humble, dimly lit beach house and the absent childcare raising suspicions(00:20:41) 🧠 Convincing Herself — the Steve Jobs reality distortion defense she refuses to claim(00:27:12) 💰 Billy's Role and Money — Holmes' husband asks for investor money and the $435 million restitution owed(00:40:27) 💍 Are they really in love? — Billy's nefarious intentions, the Dyson Airwrap, and Theranos 2.0 investors(00:51:48) 🎭 Nathan as a Narrator — Nathan Fielder's meta persona and whether he was duped by Holmes(00:53:35) 📖 Sophie's Novel Her Kind — Sophie's novel Her Kind, the terror of true love, and the poignant charactersEarly Bird CBD: Visit https://www.EarlyBirdCBD.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% offHERS Weight Loss: Visit https://www.forhers.com/APOLOGISTS to access personalized, affordable care for weight loss, hair, menopause, and more.Ladder Technologies: Head to https://www.ladder.fit/POP and take a quick quiz to find your perfect Ladder plan. Use my link and get a free 7-day trial with NO credit card, and $10 off your first month if you join.Quince: Download the Quince app for app-exclusive offers, or go to https://www.Quince.com. Get free shipping on your order and 365-day returns.Progressive: Don’t wait, get your quote today at http://www.progressive.comMacy’s: Shop cashmere sweaters in stores or online at http://www.macys.comFTC Disclosure: Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Unpacking Selma Blair's shocking plane incident, Kelly Clarkson's feud with a Brooklyn toy shop over a very expensive bird, and Amanda Frances' jaw-dropping AmEx wedding reel. Plus, Tobey Maguire and Jennifer Meyer, Elon Musk and Shivon Zilis, Meghan Markle's new merch, and the private island drama on Real Housewives of New York. (00:06:39) ✈️ Selma Blair Plane Incident — Selma Blair's mid-flight outburst and her memoir's history of celebrity biting (00:16:36) 🐦 Kelly Clarkson vs Art of Play — Kelly Clarkson's feud with a Brooklyn shop over a $15,000 mechanical bird (00:30:55) 💳 Amanda Frances' Amex Reel — Amanda Frances flexes a $700k Amex balance days before her wedding (00:39:02) 💍 Tobey Maguire Officiates Ex's Wedding — Tobey Maguire officiates ex-wife Jennifer Meyer's wedding to new partner (00:41:50) 💔 Shivon Zilis & Elon Breakup — Shivon Zilis posts a reverent essay after Elon Musk ends things (00:48:37) 👚 Meghan Markle Sweatshirt — Meghan Markle's 'It's the Little Things' charity sweatshirt divides opinion (00:50:01) 🏝️ RHONY Private Island Episode — The 'our island' claim and couch-bed complaints on RHONY's private island (01:07:06) 😂 The OFC Misunderstanding — The years-long belief that OFC meant 'of fucking course' Hero Bread: Go to https://www.hero.co and use code POP at checkout for 10% off your order. Nature’s Sunshine: Go to http://naturessunshine.com today and use the code POP for 20% off your first order, plus free shipping. Revolve: Shop at http://REVOLVE.com/POP and use code POP15 for 15% off your first order. #REVOLVEpartner Progressive: Don’t wait, get your quote today at http://www.progressive.com Macy’s: Shop cashmere sweaters in stores or online at http://www.macys.com Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

A previous Global Elites episode, released from the vault. Real talk on friendships, when to confront vs. quietly distance, dating-driven men, the first years of marriage, what comes after losing a soulmate, and how to network without it feeling fake.(00:06:59) 👀 Who Is the Enemy? — behind-the-scenes podcast drama and the Judas in our midst(00:08:22) 💬 Friendship Dynamics — when to speak up vs. quietly distance yourself(00:14:35) 💍 First Years of Marriage — balancing independence, time apart, and staying connected(00:18:38) 💘 Dating Driven Men — how to meet values-based guys and the biggest mistakes to avoid(00:34:02) 💔 After Losing a Soulmate — advice for a widow wondering if love can happen again(00:46:58) 🤝 Networking Without the Ick — how to connect authentically when everyone wants somethingRevolve: Shop at http://REVOLVE.com/POP and use code POP15 for 15% off your first order. #REVOLVEpartnerProgressive: Don’t wait, get your quote today at http://www.progressive.com Macy’s: Shop cashmere sweaters in stores or online at http://www.macys.com Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Covering the Caleb Flynn murder trial and the killing of his wife, Ashley Flynn. From an American Idol audition to a worship-team affair with Alleigha Botner, we walk you through the viral case. (00:00:49) 🕯️ Remembering Ashley Flynn — the 37-year-old teacher, coach, and mother of two remembered before the trial (00:01:53) 📞 The 911 Call — the 2:30 AM intruder story and 107,000 messages that contradicted it (00:04:00) 💬 Killing Ashley Text Messages — the chronological texts where Caleb replies 'kill her' about Ashley (00:07:44) 🎤 American Idol and Church Affair — the Idol contestant, the church intern, and matching Harry Potter tattoos (00:11:57) 🎵 The AI Love Song — the AI love song for Aaliyah and the courtroom gallery's reaction (00:19:44) 🚢 Anniversary Cruise Discovery — the fifteenth anniversary cruise where Ashley discovered the affair (00:23:04) 📱 Final Night Text Exchange — the burner phone plans and cash payment the night before the 911 call (00:32:04) 🔍 Holes in Caleb's Account — the missing gun, silent dogs, and door evidence that don't add up (00:37:03) ⚖️ Was Alleigha Involved? — whether Aaliyah knew, her alibi, and the life insurance policy See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

A candid breakdown of Taylor Swift's four new songs, her music video, and where Lauren and Chan really land after multiple listens. Plus, Erin Lichy of Real Housewives of New York sits down for a chat about all things reality TV and life behind the scenes. Including but not limited to: her drama with Jessel, the Hailey and Claudia Oshry saga, motherhood with four kids in the city, her flooded Hamptons house, and building Mezcalum with her husband Abe. (00:02:39) 🎵 TLOAS Encore — midnight listen leaves reheated Taylorisms and a Cleveland sonic crime verdict (00:07:55) 🎬 Patient Zero — Patient Zero's ex-focused lyrics and the Law and Order-esque music video (00:11:12) 🏈 Cleveland! & the Haters — Cleveland's pep-rally chants and a love song aimed at the haters (00:15:18) 🌆 Pink Clouding & Babylon — Babylon's small-town message clashing with a Madison Square Garden wedding (00:18:35) 🥗 Ponzi Scheme Word Salad — the one-man Ponzi scheme label that made no logical sense (00:19:53) 📺 Authenticity on Reality TV — why refusing to fake friendships beats memorizing lies on reality TV (00:23:50) 🍿 Jessel Drama Breakdown — the popcorn ceiling snickering and Jessel's claim she made Tribeca viral (00:28:21) 🍓 Hailey Trolling Claudia Oshry — Hailey's years of unsolicited DMs to Claudia Oshry about her body (00:30:57) 💔 Hailey's Homewrecking Allegations — the homewrecking accusation, food metaphors, and a missing apology (00:33:33) ✈️ Former Cast and Brynn — why Brynn no longer speaks to the cast and the private island truth (00:35:09) 👶 Raising Four Kids in NYC — raising four kids in the city and pushback against motherhood negativity (00:43:10) 🍄 Plant Medicine with Abe — mushrooms, DJ sets, and connecting without getting drunk together (00:44:50) 💑 Staying Connected in Marriage — spontaneous dinners beating rigid date nights for busy couples (00:46:37) 🏥 ER Visits and Hypochondria — a ChatGPT-fueled 4:30am ER trip over feared deep vein thrombosis (00:49:07) 🗽 Living in New York Forever — lifelong high school friends and why reality TV isn't real fame (00:51:38) 🏗️ House Construction Stress — the architect's Katrina comparison she regrets repeating on air (00:54:09) 🌊 House Flood Disaster — black mold forcing keepsakes into a dumpster after a burst pipe (00:57:23) 🥂 Working with Your Partner — building Mezcalum through a spirits downturn while staying married (01:04:26) 📓 JournalSpeak by Nicole Sachs — Nicole Sachs' JournalSpeak for raging out and throwing it away Hero Bread: Go to https://www.hero.co and use code POP at checkout for 10% off. HERS Weight Loss: Visit https://www.forhers.com/APOLOGISTS to access personalized, affordable care for weight loss, hair, menopause, and more. Macy’s: Shop now in stores or at https://www.macys.com. Ladder: If you have an iPhone, head to https://www.ladder.fit/POP and take a quick quiz to find your perfect Ladder plan. Use my link and get a free 7-day trial with NO credit card, and $10 off your first month if you join. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

We unpack Taylor Swift's surprise 'Patient Zero' announcement and her viral ring moment at the game. Plus, the Patrick Clancy 60 Minutes interview, a jaw-dropping DM about dating Matthew Rhys, and a Hailey Glassman revelation that changes everything. Including but not limited to: the iced coffee job interview debate, a ten-year-old's pro-war essay, Kylie Jenner's Italian dream home, and Kris Jenner's three phones. (00:07:58) 📧 Erin Lichy Questions Callout — call for listener questions ahead of Erin Lichy interview on Thursday (00:08:43) 🎵 Taylor Swift's New Single — 'Patient Zero' and its confusing gray visual direction (00:13:17) 💍 Taylor at Travis' Game — Taylor's rambunctious sideline reactions and 'that's my husband' ring moment (00:17:54) 😢 Patrick Clancy Speaks — Patrick Clancy's 60 Minutes interview and the truther conspiracy debate (00:31:35) ☕ Iced Coffee Interview Debate — whether bringing an iced coffee to a job interview reads as unprofessional (00:41:19) ✉️ Bush War Letters Nostalgia — listener's childhood pro-Iraq-war essay and Chan's George W. Bush letter (00:48:13) 💌 Matthew Rhys Crush and DM — DM from a woman who dated Matthew Rhys after Sienna Miller (00:54:17) 😬 Hailey Glassman Trolling — Hailey Glassman's years of troll DMs to Claudia Oshry resurface (01:01:06) 👋 TFP Leaves SLOMW — Taylor Frankie Paul announces she's leaving Mormon Wives (01:03:04) 🏛️ Kylie Jenner's House Tour — Kylie Jenner's restored Italian villa and Saint-Tropez private jet vlog (01:11:11) 🎁 Gift Card Winners — gift card winners and a tip about the Charles Spencer book event Early Bird CBD: Visit https://www.EarlyBirdCBD.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off Bath & Body Works: Shop the Reserve Collection now at https://www.bathandbodyworks.com/t/reserve-collection! Booking.com: Find exactly what you’re booking for. Booking.com, Booking.YEAH! Book today on the site or in the app. Primal Queen: Our listeners get a FREE MONTH of Primal Queen plus FOUR FREE GIFTS at https://www.PrimalQueen.com/POPAPOLOGIST #ad Quince: Download the Quince app for app-exclusive offers, or go to https://www.Quince.com/apologist. Get free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Progressive Insurance: Visit https://www.Progressive.com after this episode to see if you could save by switching to Progressive. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Travis Kelce’s latest wedding revelation leaving us with more questions than answers, Meghan Markle’s first UK-based reel, AI’s recent headlines have us wondering if Dyson Airwraps will be needed in bunkers, TS13 could be Debut: Taylor’s Version? and TFP is a dumpster fire on SLOMW.(00:00:24) 🇪🇸 Chan’s NSFW Spanish Adventures(00:04:44) 🎩 Travis Kelce's Haunting Wedding Attire(00:09:52) 🎥 Meghan Markle's Lo-Fi & Domestic Reel: How often is Lilibet naturally vlogging her POV?(00:16:52) 🤖 Doomer AI Headlines(00:22:18) 💤 Navigating Work Soft Lifestyle in AI Apocalypse(00:31:48) 🎾 Sydney Sweeney's Rage-Baiting Sports Ads (and is she even a Swiftie?)(00:35:34) 👯‍♀️ New Season of Sister Wives Trailer - Has Cody Brown paid his penance?(00:40:05) 🏈 Taylor Back on Our Big Screens at Chiefs Game - Is Scientology in her future?(00:40:51) 🐣 Taylor Drops Easter Egg in Emmy’s Cameo - Can Lauren handle Debut: Taylor’s Version?(00:44:55) 🤫 Taylor Frankie Paul Causes Chaos and Destruction on SLOMW(01:06:37) 🏆 Announcing Our Comment Giveaway WinnersLoving Tan: Visit https://www.LovingTan.com and use code POP for a free Cloud Pouch at checkout.Bath & Body Works: Shop the Reserve Collection now at https://www.bathandbodyworks.com/t/reserve-collection!HERS Weight Loss: Visit https://www.forhers.com/apologists to get personalized, affordable care that gets you.Macy’s: Shop the Retro Revival collection in stores or online at https://www.macys.com. Nature’s Sunshine: Go to https://www.naturessunshine.com today and use the code POP for 20% off your first order, plus free shipping.Progressive Insurance: Visit https://www.Progressive.com after this episode to see if you could save by switching to Progressive.Revolve: Go to https://www.REVOLVE.com/POP15 to shop our faves and use code POP15 for 15% off your first order.Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Alix Earle's new show Earle Meets World, the Elizabeth Holmes documentary with Nathan Fielder, Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift's first outing as newlyweds, and Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's royal status letter from King Charles.(00:10:40) 🍹 Pookie & Jett Making Cocktails — Pookie and Jett's jacuzzi cocktails and the private group-chat crush confession(00:13:28) 🙏 Husband & Wife Cheating Prayer — couple returning to pray outside the massage parlors where he cheated(00:20:18) 🎙️ Gwyneth on Benny Blanco's Podcast — Gwyneth asks Benny Blanco when he married Selena Gomez(00:21:44) ⚖️ Lindsay Clancy Mistrial Update — Patrick Clancy denies theories on GMA after mistrial declared(00:24:03) 📺 Earle Meets World Review — why Alex Earl's unpolished family show feels more natural than House of Stassi(00:36:09) 💔 Earle Cheating Scandal — the Ashley Dupre affair and the stepmom's pot-stirring reel about Alex(00:53:03) 🩸 Elizabeth Holmes Documentary — Nathan Fielder's straight-faced Elizabeth Holmes documentary and its guarded spoilers(01:00:00) 👗 Travis and Taylor's Outfits — Travis's party shirt and Taylor's floor-length dress at the clubhouse(01:02:08) 👑 Harry and Meghan's Royal Status — King Charles' letter clarifying Harry and Meghan's non-working royal statusEarly Bird CBD: Visit https://www.EarlyBirdCBD.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% offBath & Body Works: Shop the Reserve Collection now at https://www.bathandbodyworks.com/t/reserve-collection!Booking.com: Find exactly what you’re booking for. Booking.com, Booking.YEAH! Book today on the site or in the app.HERS Weight Loss: Visit http://www.forhers.com/apologists to get personalized, affordable care that gets you.Progressive Insurance: Visit https://www.Progressive.com and give the Name Your Price® tool a try.Macy’s: Shop Macy’s Denim collection in stores or online at http://macys.com.Shopify: Start your free trial today at https://shopify.com/apologists!FTC Disclosure: Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.