Joe vs Carole | Etan Frankel on creating the world of “Joe vs. Carole” | 13

When ex-Bunny girl Jayne Gaskin spots the desert island of her dreams for sale online, she decides to risk it all. Trading in their English village home, Jayne and her family relocate to their own private paradise, just off the coast of Nicaragua. And a reality TV crew follows them to film a new show, No Going Back. But soon they all discover that paradise has its secrets. The locals claim the island belongs to them, and it’s been sold illegally. Jayne’s not leaving without a fight. A fight that will soon turn deadly.Hosted by Alice Levine.Listen to The Price of Paradise on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes early and ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App or on Apple Podcasts. Start your free trial by visiting https://wondery.com/links/the-price-of-paradise/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jennifer Portman speaks to two experts with very different views of Denise. Former FBI profiler Candice DeLong, host of Killer Psyche, and Professor Jane Monckton-Smith, a leading researcher into coercive control.Support us by supporting our sponsors!BetterHelp: Try BetterHelp.com/OverMy to get 10% off your first month!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The prosecution lay out their version of what happened to Mike Williams all those years ago. But can their star witness be trusted?See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

As prosecutors close in, a desperate plot takes shape in prison.Join Wondery+ for exclusives, binges, early access, and ad free listening. Available in the Wondery App https://wondery.app.link/americanscandalPlease support us by supporting our sponsors!BetterHelp: Visit BetterHelp.com/OverMy today to get 10% off your first month!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Denise has a terrifying encounter. It leads to a choice she never expected to face.If you or someone you know is struggling with mental health or domestic violence, here are some additional resources: National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 1-800-273-8255 National Alliance on Mental Illness: 1-800-950-6264National Domestic Violence Hotline call 1-800-799-7233See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Mike’s wife Denise begins to move on with her life, but a friend from her past makes an unexpected appearance.If you or someone you know is experiencing intimate partner violence, here are some additional resources. For the National Domestic Violence Hotline call 1-800-799-7233 or visit thehotline.org to chat with someone live at any time. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

A fisherman makes a disturbing discovery. Could it hold the key to what happened to Mike?See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Mike and Denise Williams have a picture perfect life. Until one cold December day Mike goes hunting, and never returns. Now the authorities battle the elements to find him before it’s too late.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Robert Moor talks with Etan Frankel, the Executive Producer, showrunner, and writer, tasked with adapting “Joe vs. Carole” for the screen. The pair talk about class dynamics, what Gossip Girl, Friday Night Lights and Shameless have in common with Joe Exotic and how brie and champagne drew Etan to Carole Baskin. “Joe vs. Carole” the TV series based on the second season of Over My Dead Body is now out on PeacockSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Robert Moor talks with actor Kate McKinnon about what drew her to the role of Carole Baskin. The two discuss how she found humor in such a dark story and what makes a cat person a cat person. "Joe vs. Carole” the TV series based on the second season of Over My Dead Body is now out on Peacock.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.