The Klunatics Podcast

In preparation for the release of Heat Wave, the explosive finale to The Extraordinaries series, author TJ Klune turns the tables on the Klunatics Podcast by taking the host seat and interviewing audiobook narrators Michael Lesley and Kirt Graves.  You can pre-order Heat Wave wherever books are sold.

On the eve of **Brothersong**'s release in paperback and ebook, author TJ Klune and audiobook narrator Kirt Graves reflect on the Green Creek series. **Brothersong** is available October 13, 2020. [Amazon Ebook/Paperback](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B086YX62VY/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=brothersong&qid=1586520926&sr=8-4) [Other sellers](https://books2read.com/u/mYp5Jp) [Audio](https://tantor.com/brothersong-tj-klune.html) (Available October 27, 2020) Find out more about TJ Klune at www.tjklunebooks.com Find out more about Kirt Graves at www.kirtreads.com Music is licensed through [Storyblocks Audio](https://www.storyblocks.com/audio)

The conclusion of our first season of The Klunatics Podcast. An interview with TJ Klune about his landmark year. The Klunatics Podcast is produced by Susannah Frigo, Luis Garcia, Angela Noll Mohn, Sita Rajasingham, Mia Sciberras, Jon Steiger, and Kirt Graves. Special thanks to our season sponsor, Chelsea Verzwyvelt. We may be done with this season, but don’t unsubscribe yet. More audio entertainment is already in the works. Stay tuned. Make sure you’re following The Klunatics Podcast on social media. Join our Facebook group and find us on Instagram and Twitter using @KlunaticsPod. All episodes are now available on YouTube as well. If you want to support the podcast with a financial contribution, hit the donate button at www.klunaticspodcast.com. Please include the name of a charity you think needs our support when you donate. Additional information about the podcast, including episode transcripts and the Klunespeak Don’t-Be-A-Dictionary, is available at www.klunaticspodcast.com. You can find out more about Kirt and his work at www.kirtreads.com. All music and sound effects heard in this episode are licensed by Storyblocks Audio.

From the very first episode of this podcast, we’ve been discussing the intense personal relationships that can be created over the internet. The Klunatics exist because we have the technology to correspond over long distances with thousands of other people who appreciate the same things we do. But sometimes, those long distance friendships aren’t enough. And for a lucky few, we’ve been able to meet in person. Today, we’ll be telling stories of some of these meetings, and the fun that can be had when members of our group venture out of their homes, and comfort zones. The Klunatics Podcast is produced by Susannah Frigo, Luis Garcia, Angela Noll Mohn, Sita Rajasingham, Mia Sciberras, Jon Steiger, and Kirt Graves. This episode was written by Mia Sciberras. Special thanks to our season sponsor, Chelsea Verzwyvelt. Make sure you’re following The Klunatics Podcast on social media. Join our Facebook group and find us on Instagram and Twitter using @KlunaticsPod. All episodes are now available on YouTube as well. If you want to support the podcast with a financial contribution, hit the donate button at www.klunaticspodcast.com. Your contributions for Season One allowed us to make a $500 donation to The Trevor Project. Donations collected after July 1, 2020 will be banked for a potential season two, and please include the name of a charity you think needs our support when you donate. We love The Trevor Project, but we’d like to spread the love. Additional information about the podcast, including episode transcripts and the Klunespeak Don’t-Be-A-Dictionary, is available at www.klunaticspodcast.com. You can find out more about Kirt and his work at www.kirtreads.com. All music and sound effects heard in this episode are licensed by Storyblocks Audio.

We’re only a few episodes away from the end of the first season of The Klunatics Podcast. And there’s a topic we’ve been tip-toeing around in most of our episodes: Found Family. In this episode, we talk about how Found Families, like the Klunatics are important, and how they can be life-saving for queer youth. [Gabor Maté - Authenticity vs. Attachment](https://youtu.be/l3bynimi8HQ) The Klunatics Podcast is produced by Susannah Frigo, Luis Garcia, Angela Noll Mohn, Sita Rajasingham, Mia Sciberras, Jon Steiger, and Kirt Graves. This episode was written by Jon Steiger and Kirt Graves. Special thanks to our season sponsor, Chelsea Verzwyvelt. Make sure you’re following The Klunatics Podcast on social media. Join our Facebook group and find us on Instagram and Twitter using @KlunaticsPod. All episodes are now available on YouTube as well. If you want to support the podcast with a financial contribution, hit the donate button at www.klunaticspodcast.com. Your contributions for Season One allowed us to make a $500 donation to The Trevor Project. Donations collected after July 1, 2020 will be banked for a potential season two, and please include the name of a charity you think needs our support when you donate. We love The Trevor Project, but we’d like to spread the love. Additional information about the podcast, including episode transcripts and the Klunespeak Don’t-Be-A-Dictionary, is available at www.klunaticspodcast.com. You can find out more about Kirt and his work at www.kirtreads.com. All music and sound effects heard in this episode are licensed by Storyblocks Audio.

**SPOILER ALERT:** The short story Lovesong, presented here in audio, contains spoilers for *Wolfsong*, *Ravensong*, and *Heartsong*. The complete text of Lovesong Part II is available at [www.tjklunebooks.com](http://www.tjklunebooks.com/new-blog/2020/7/27/lovesong-part-ii). **Buy *Wolfsong*:** [Audible](https://www.audible.com/pd/B01LX3DCUR/?source_code=AUDFPWS0223189MWU-BK-ACX0-069860&ref=acx_bty_BK_ACX0_069860_pd_us) / [iTunes](https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/wolfsong/id1101406976?mt=11) **Buy *Ravensong*:** [Audible](https://www.audible.com/pd/Ravensong-Audiobook/B07L4C5QJS?qid=1595868053&sr=1-1&ref=a_search_c3_lProduct_1_1&pf_rd_p=e81b7c27-6880-467a-b5a7-13cef5d729fe&pf_rd_r=YNCZDTCF8RJEQK970MX5) / [iTunes](https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/ravensong-green-creek-book-2-unabridged/id1445616697) **Buy *Heartsong*:** [Audible](https://www.audible.com/pd/Heartsong-Audiobook/1541406583?qid=1595868181&sr=1-1&ref=a_search_c3_lProduct_1_1&pf_rd_p=e81b7c27-6880-467a-b5a7-13cef5d729fe&pf_rd_r=THH4GFBKA64FNWBJPSDB) / [iTunes](https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/heartsong/id1479248588) Music licensed by Storyblocks Audio. Hosted by Kirt Graves / [Website](https://www.kirtreads.com/) / [Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/KirtGravesNarrator/) / [Twitter](https://twitter.com/kirtgraves) / [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/kirtreads/)

This week, we’re doing something new. We gathered a group of Klunatics to have a round table discussion of TJ Klune’s antagonists. Are they evil? Misunderstood? Are villains just the hero of their own story? Like most of the topics we discuss here on The Klunatics Podcast, the answers we come up with may surprise you. Featuring: Chealsea Verzwyvelt, Melissa Logan, Tanya Hess, Anji River, Dene Young, Susannah Frigo, and Michael Lesley A couple of warnings: There are some gentle spoilers for TJ Klune’s books, so proceed with caution, and this conversation also contains a political joke, which we’ve left in despite the Klunatic rule banning political talk precisely because it is, in fact, a joke. The Klunatics Podcast is produced by Susannah Frigo, Luis Garcia, Angela Noll Mohn, Sita Rajasingham, Mia Sciberras, Jon Steiger, and Kirt Graves. This episode was written by Sita Rajasingham. Special thanks to our season sponsor, Tex Tycoon. JK. It’s still Chelsea Verzwyvelt. Make sure you’re following The Klunatics Podcast on social media. Join our Facebook group and find us on Instagram and Twitter using @KlunaticsPod. All episodes are now available on YouTube as well. If you want to support the podcast with a financial contribution, hit the donate button at www.klunaticspodcast.com. Your generous donations allowed us to make a $500 donation to The Trevor Project. Donations collected after July 1, 2020 will be banked for a potential season two, and please include the name of a charity you think needs our support when you donate. We love The Trevor Project, but we’d like to spread the love. Additional information about the podcast, including episode transcripts and the Klunespeak Don’t-Be-A-Dictionary, is available at www.klunaticspodcast.com. You can find out more about Kirt and his work at www.kirtreads.com. All music and sound effects heard in this episode are licensed by Storyblocks Audio.

In the course of creating this podcast, the producers have worked hard not to put an editorial spin on many of the topics we discuss. We took inspiration from TJ’s stories and characters, and we let the interviewees guide the episode. Not so this time. Today, we have a point of view and a statement to make: Let Boys Be Feminine. The Klunatics Podcast is produced by Susannah Frigo, Luis Garcia, Angela Noll Mohn, Sita Rajasingham, Mia Sciberras, Jon Steiger, and Kirt Graves. This episode was written by Angela Noll Mohn. Special thanks to our season sponsor, Chelsea Verzwyvelt. Make sure you’re following The Klunatics Podcast on social media. Join our Facebook group and find us on Instagram and Twitter using @KlunaticsPod. All episodes are now available on YouTube as well. If you want to support the podcast with a financial contribution, hit the donate button at www.klunaticspodcast.com. Your generous donations allowed us to make a $500 donation to The Trevor Project. Donations collected after July 1, 2020 will be banked for a potential season two, and please include the name of a charity you think needs our support when you donate. We love The Trevor Project, but we’d like to spread the love. Additional information about the podcast, including episode transcripts and the Klunespeak Don’t-Be-A-Dictionary, is available at www.klunaticspodcast.com. You can find out more about Kirt and his work at www.kirtreads.com. All music and sound effects heard in this episode are licensed by Storyblocks Audio.

Some narrators are extraordinary, and Michael Lesley is one of them. Michael joins Kirt for a chat about what it was like to narrate *The Extraordinaries*, TJ's Young Adult Superqueero debut. FEATURING AN EXCLUSIVE PREVIEW OF *THE EXTRAORDINARIES* AUDIOBOOK. *The Extraordinaries* is available in hard cover, ebook, and audio, on July 14. Available wherever books are sold or at [Macmillan Books](https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250203670). The Klunatics Podcast is produced by Susannah Frigo, Luis Garcia, Angela Noll Mohn, Sita Rajasingham, Mia Sciberras, Jon Steiger, and Kirt Graves. Make sure you’re following The Klunatics Podcast on social media. Join our Facebook group and find us on Instagram and Twitter using @KlunaticsPod. Special thanks to our season sponsor, Chelsea Verzwyvelt. If you like what you heard, please take a moment to rate and review the podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you’re listening to this episode. Word of mouth is still the best advertising, so please tell a friend or post about the show on social media. Additional information about the podcast, including episode transcripts and the Klunespeak Don’t-Be-A-Dictionary, is also available at www.klunaticspodcast.com. You can find out more about Kirt and his work at www.kirtreads.com. All music and sound effects heard in this episode are licensed by Storyblocks Audio.

Some episodes are extraordinary. Some are just extra. Inspired by an early conversation for the podcast, Kirt talks to a local librarian about advocating for queer content in your local library. The Klunatics Podcast is produced by Susannah Frigo, Luis Garcia, Angela Noll Mohn, Sita Rajasingham, Mia Sciberras, Jon Steiger, and Kirt Graves. Make sure you’re following The Klunatics Podcast on social media. Join our Facebook group and find us on Instagram and Twitter using @KlunaticsPod. Special thanks to our season sponsor, Chelsea Verzwyvelt. If you like what you heard, please take a moment to rate and review the podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you’re listening to this episode. Word of mouth is still the best advertising, so please tell a friend or post about the show on social media. Additional information about the podcast, including episode transcripts and the Klunespeak Don’t-Be-A-Dictionary, is also available at www.klunaticspodcast.com. You can find out more about Kirt and his work at www.kirtreads.com. All music and sound effects heard in this episode are licensed by Storyblocks Audio.