Marriage And Ministry With Same-Sex Attraction (with Jeff Johnson)

How do you distinguish between sexual secrecy and sexual privacy? Learn 3 key differences between secrecy and privacy: motivation (fear vs. love), intention (control vs. care), and protecting addiction vs. protecting people. This episode includes 6 real-life case studies and 1 simple strategy any couple can use to strengthen their relationship.You don't have to share everything with everyone, but unlearning secrecy is the first step toward lasting freedom.What questions or comments do you have about secrecy vs. privacy? Let us know in the Husband Material Community at husbandmaterial.com/communitySend us Fan MailTake the Husband Material Journey...Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

For decades, Jeff Johnson hid his sexual attraction to other men. This secret kept him trapped in shame and isolation until everything changed in an open conversation with his now-wife, Jourdan. Jeff's story is proof that same-sex attraction does not disqualify anyone from marriage, ministry, or male connection. In this episode, you'll hear Jeff share honestly about faith, friendship, and a freedom that does not require the absence of temptation. It's truly inspiring!Jeff and Jourdan Johnson are worship leaders and pastors at Passion City Church in Atlanta, GA, with 25+ years of ministry experience. They've spent decades leading worship across the country, creating spaces where people can encounter God in a real and transformative way. Their journey has been deeply shaped by God's faithfulness—particularly through Jeff's decades-long experience navigating same-sex attraction while holding onto his faith. This led them to start Open Spaces, a podcast where they share their story and engage in honest conversations about faith, marriage, identity, and the power of living with vulnerability.Learn more at theopenspacescollective.comListen to Jeff and Jourdan's podcast at theopenspacescollective.com/podcastTo connect with Jeff or Jourdan, email [email protected] us Fan MailTake the Husband Material Journey...Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

Get ready for a wild conversation on the adventure of masculine initiation, spiritual formation, and life as a beloved son with Morgan Snyder. You'll hear what it truly means to be fathered by God, how unhealed emasculation ("castration") can leave parts of a man’s soul dormant, and why true strength is cultivated through total dependence on God rather than self-reliance.Morgan Snyder is a grateful husband of twenty-five years to his wife, Cherie, and a proud father of two remarkable children. He serves as a spiritual director, strategist, teacher, writer, and speaker devoted to the formation of wholehearted leaders.Morgan is the President and Founder of Become Good Soil, established in 2010 as a global fellowship and training ground for leaders who have consented to organize their entire lives around apprenticeship to God and His Kingdom. His passion is to apprentice men, women, and marriages into wholeheartedness, freedom, and maturity for the sake of faithfully carrying responsibility in the Kingdom of God. For more than twenty-five years, Morgan served alongside John and Stasi Eldredge at Wild at Heart, including as Vice President. Throughout those decades, he helped initiate men and participate in the spiritual formation of leaders around the globe, guiding sold-out events and leadership initiatives across the United States, the United Kingdom, South Africa, Australia, and beyond.Morgan now shares a mission with Cherie, a clinical counselor and co-host of the Become Good Soil Podcast, as they intentionally transition into becoming second-half-of-life leaders. Together, they are devoted to serving the next two generations of leaders while helping their peers become sages for the generations that follow.After turning fifty, Morgan and Cherie made the intentional decision to serve as full-time volunteers within their vocational space, offering their lives, experience, and leadership in wholehearted response to the invitation of God. Their work now centers on masculine and feminine initiation, resilient marriages, and Kingdom-hearted leadership for fully flourishing lives and communities. Whenever possible, Morgan still goes off the grid—whether bowhunting in the Colorado wilderness or pursuing the adventurous life with the people he treasures most.Buy Morgan's book:Becoming a King: The Path to Restoring the Heart of a ManListen to Morgan's podcast:Become Good SoilLearn more at becomegoodsoil.comSend us Fan MailTake the Husband Material Journey...Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

Have you ever felt like a sexual fantasy was so irresistible that missing out on it felt like missing out on life itself? While fantasies promise satisfaction, they are ultimately symbolic attempts to rewrite reality—seemingly beautiful like a sunset, but cold and empty when you try to hold them.In this episode, you'll learn why sexual fantasies will never satisfy you, how to decode what your fantasies are actually trying to tell you, and how to find true soul-level satisfaction. Whether your fantasies focus on specific sexual experiences, particular people, or potential relationships, this episode will give you wisdom and direction to discover what you truly desire.Download the free PDF of Drew's list of 40 desires (and other helpful documents) at husbandmaterial.com/documentsWatch Husband Material's YouTube Playlist on Understanding Sexual Arousal, Fantasy, and Desire: youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMrBq-rwRxSARelated episodes:Sexual Arousal vs. Sexual DesireHow To Interpret Sexual FantasiesHow To Analyze A Sexual FantasyIntroduction To Sexual SymbolismHow My Sexual Fetish Shifted Over TimeSend us Fan MailTake the Husband Material Journey...Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

What if my wife isn't doing "her work"? What if my inner child doesn't feel safe with her? What if I feel like she is controlling me? How can I be assertive without being selfish? In this episode, you'll get answers to some of the toughest, most common questions men ask while trying to rebuild trust after sexual betrayal.Our guests today are James and Sam, co-hosts of the Ask The Unfaithful Podcast. Listen now at asktheunfaithful.comJames Annear is a Licensed Mental Health Counselor (LMHC), Certified Professional Coach, Certified Clinical Partner Specialist - Supervisor (APSATS), Certified Sex Addiction Therapist (CSAT) - Supervisor, and a Certified Clinical Trauma Professional. He and his wife, Sharon Rinearson, LCSW, own CORE Relationship Recovery and are known for their down to earth, practical and creative interventions and antidotes when it comes to helping couples heal from relational and sexual betrayals in relationships, as well as tackling developmentally damaging experiences in custom created intensives. Creating safe spaces for couples, unfaithful partners and betrayed partners to do work that can help free them from their old unhappy and unhealthy lives, James and Sharon use unique techniques based in neurobiology, addiction science, PTSD trauma techniques and their own methods of interpersonal therapies to create dramatic differences with their clients. Learn more at hopeforus.comFor over 15 years, Sam has been one of the leading content creators for healing and recovery of both betrayed and unfaithful spouses. After more than a decade of blogging and filming under one of the betrayal trauma’s founding fathers, clinician Rick Reynolds of affairrecovery.com, Sam has ventured out to pursue, create and live out his lifelong vision and passion for healing those touched by the trauma of infidelity. Through Sam's Healing Podcast and Ask the Unfaithful, Samuel continues to bring his own personal experiences with infidelity recovery along with delivering the most current and up-to-date clinical wisdom and healing modalities for recovery after an affair. Learn more at samshealingpodcast.comSend us Fan MailTake the Husband Material Journey...Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

What is the "sex recession" and why is it happening? Dr. Debra Soh explains today's widespread decline of sexual activity, long-term commitment, marriage, and childbearing—particularly among Gen Z and Millennials. We'll explore the underlying factors causing young men to pull away from real-world dating, including early exposure to  pornography, digital substitutes like OnlyFans and AI chatbots, and extreme social media pressures around appearance. You'll also hear practical steps to restore real-world connection, overcome social anxiety through exposure, and build lasting confidence.Dr. Debra Soh is a neuroscientist who specializes in human sexuality. Her new book, Sextinction: The Decline of Sex and the Future of Intimacy, investigates the global “dating recession” and how technology and mainstream science denial are polarizing the sexes. As a science journalist, Debra's writing has appeared in Harper’s Magazine, The Wall Street Journal, the Los Angeles Times, The Globe and Mail, The Free Press, and many other publications. Learn more at DrDebraSoh.comClick here to buy Debra's new book:https://www.amazon.com/Sextinction-Decline-Sex-Future-Intimacy/dp/1668057395Send us Fan MailTake the Husband Material Journey...Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

Have you ever wondered what the Song of Songs (Song of Solomon) is actually saying? Drawing on insights from ancient Mesopotamian erotic poetry, Russell Zahniser breaks down the two models of male sexuality featured in the Song of Songs. Listen to discover how this mysterious book of the Bible speaks out against coercive, fast-paced sex, advocating instead for mutual consent and genuine bonding. You'll also hear Russell tell his personal story of sexual development, what he has learned about arousal, and why sex is so much more than intercourse.Russell Zahniser is a writer and researcher who wanted to use the Song of Songs as a starting point to give to his sons a picture of healthy, mutual sexuality. What he found instead was a desperate plea to reimagine male sexuality and how we define sex itself. Learn more at russellzahniser.substack.com/p/made-for-connectionSubscribe to Russell Zahniser on Substack:russellzahniser.substack.com/Russell Zahniser is also a husband, father of three boys, and a member of Forest Hills Covenant Church in Boston, MA. He loves making things out of wood, reading, and taking his sons on daily "adventures" to explore nature.Resources mentioned in this episode:The Land of Wholeness, by Russell Zahniser (blog)Come As You Are, by Emily Nagoski (book)Sheila Wray Gregoire (author and researcher)Send us Fan MailTake the Husband Material Journey...Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

Have you ever been amazed by the power of music? In this episode, you'll learn five ways music can support you in overcoming sexual temptation—including one resource that turns anyone into a songwriter.  Songs mentioned on this episode:The Lord Will Fight For You - https://youtu.be/TE_OlAxU_uc?si=iaKCsPNe0m3g3q-oConfession of Sin (low-quality recording) - https://suno.com/s/EJ0hCbjWjLn0Zr9RConfession of Sin (SUNO version) - https://suno.com/s/shdp2PL5TNKoNBCiHis Beloved Son - https://suno.com/s/hHAtdx9N961mvh9aThe Lord Will Fight For You Song Credits:words and music by Drew Boaproduced and arranged by Steven Doughertymixing and mastering by Danny StimacSteven Dougherty - lead vocals, BGV’s, piano, synthesizer, & drum programmingDanny Stimac - electric guitar, additional percussionMike Shelton - bass guitarBurton Gestner - acoustic guitarShawn Manley - lead vocalsT.J. Tolosa - lead vocalsHusband Material Men’s Chorus:Drew BoaChris FurrMike ChapmanJohn DepewKeith MartinJay SevillaJames KaiserPatrick AllenArlen WilcockSteven DoughertyShawn ManleyT.J. TolosaDustin LangLyndon DueckDan CarlsonShare the songs you love in the Husband Material Community!husbandmaterial.com/communitySend us Fan MailTake the Husband Material Journey...Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

How can we help teens start outgrowing porn and unwanted sexual behavior? Licensed counselor Blake Brinkman believes teens are NOT too young, too immature, or too unwilling to start healing. In this episode, you'll hear Blake's overview of the teen brain, why recovery must start "bottom-up" with safety rather than "top-down" with rules, how (not) to respond to teens struggling with porn, and why apologizing after mistakes creates deeper trust than attempting to parent perfectly.Blake Brinkman is a mental health counselor, recovery coach, and co-host of the new podcast Start Younger: Outgrow Porn At Any Age. Blake is the founder of Redefine Student Recovery, where he works with teens and families through one-on-one coaching, recovery groups, and parent guidance. He specializes in helping adolescents understand the emotional and relational roots of addictive behavior and develop healthier beliefs, relationships, and patterns for lasting change, integrating recovery principles, family systems insight, and faith-based care in a developmentally appropriate, shame-free way. Blake is also the author of Alliance Groups: Empowering Student Recovery. He lives in New York City and enjoys exploring the city and world with his wife, Katherine.Listen to the Start Younger Podcast at startyoungerpodcast.com, co-hosted by Blake Brinkman, Drew Boa, and Dr. Doug Carpenter. New episodes come out on Thursdays every two weeks.Send us Fan MailTake the Husband Material Journey...Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!

What if couples devastated by sexual betrayal could heal together instead of separately? Clinton and Charity Muñoz expose a massive gap in traditional porn recovery's focus on sexual addiction for husbands and betrayal trauma for wives that leaves couples without guidance on how to actually restore their relationship in community. In this episode, you'll hear:The power of hearing other spouses' storiesHealthy boundaries to keep communication safeWhy you need to turn on your brain's "relational circuits"What it looks like to process your pain with JesusHow post-traumatic growth is a picture of the gospelClinton and Charity Muñoz are the founders of Restored 2 More, a Christ-centered nonprofit ministry helping couples heal after betrayal, pornography/sexual addiction, and broken trust. After walking through their own story of betrayal, trauma, repentance, recovery, and restoration, they felt called to create a safe and hope-filled pathway for other couples who are longing for healing.Through their podcast, courses, coaching, resources, and ambassador program, Clinton and Charity equip couples, churches, and leaders with practical tools to restore safety, rebuild trust, process pain with Jesus, and move toward deeper connection. Their heart is to see marriages not simply survive betrayal, but become restored to more. Learn more at restored2more.comTake The Bridge Back To Us 8-Week Course here:https://restored2more.thinkific.com/products/courses/thebridgebacktousFind additional Restored 2 More resources here:https://restored2more.com/resources/Listen to the Restored 2 More podcast here:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/restored-2-more/id1503954507Connect with Restored 2 More on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/restored2more/Friends, a marriage marked by betrayal doesn't have to settle for "not divorced." It can become something better than either spouse imagined!Send us Fan MailTake the Husband Material Journey...Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTubeStep 2: Join the private Husband Material CommunityStep 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow PornStep 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material AcademyThanks for listening!