337. Why Polarization is a Bigger Threat than You Think with Tim Shriver (Part 2)

Tim Shriver is an acclaimed advocate for individuals with intellectual disabilities, serving as the chairman of the Special Olympics. He has an extensive family legacy, being the son of Eunice Kennedy Shriver and Sargent Shriver, and a nephew to President John F. Kennedy. Tim has committed his life to numerous social causes, particularly emphasizing social-emotional learning through the Collaborative for Academic, Social, and Emotional Learning. He holds degrees from Yale University, Catholic University, and a doctorate in education from the University of Connecticut. Furthermore, Tim Shriver is also a film producer and New York Times bestselling author. Episode Summary: Greg welcomes Tim Shriver back to discuss bridging divides in an increasingly polarized world. Greg and Tim explore how contempt and dehumanization exacerbate divisions in society, whether in politics or personal interactions. The episode highlights the need for a cultural shift towards empathy, respecting differences, and cultivating the rare and valuable skill of deep listening. Shriver shares stories from his work with the Special Olympics and insights from his efforts in social-emotional learning, underscoring that while differences are inevitable, recognizing the inherent dignity in others can pave the way for solving shared problems. Key Takeaways: The Power of Listening: Tim emphasizes that the skill of deep listening is increasingly vital in today's polarized world for understanding and solving conflicts. Dehumanization and Contempt: The discussion addresses how contemptuous language and dehumanizing others lead to escalating violence and societal fragmentation. Empathy in Action: Examples from the Special Olympics showcase how exposure, when thoughtfully managed, can transform attitudes and relationships, promoting empathy and respect for differences. Role of Relationships in Problem-Solving: Relationships are defined as the ability to solve problems together, highlighting the necessity of building trust and understanding before tackling contentious issues. Common Humanity: Regardless of political affiliation or personal stance, recognizing our shared vulnerabilities can lead to more compassionate and effective interactions. Notable Quotes: "We cannot bridge these times of polarization by starting with the things we most disagree about." - Greg McKeown "The biggest reducer of free speech is not the government. It's contempt." - Tim Shriver "Difference isn't the problem. Difference is not the problem. The problem is treating each other with hatred and dehumanizing contempt." - Tim Shriver "It's almost physiologically impossible to have a good conversation when starting at the point of greatest pain." - Tim Shriver Resources: Tim Shriver on Twitter Join my weekly newsletter. Learn more about my books and courses. Join The Essentialism Academy. Follow me on LinkedIn, Instagram, X, Facebook, and YouTube.

Tim Shriver is an acclaimed advocate for individuals with intellectual disabilities, serving as the chairman of the Special Olympics. He has an extensive family legacy, being the son of Eunice Kennedy Shriver and Sargent Shriver, and a nephew to President John F. Kennedy. Tim has committed his life to numerous social causes, particularly emphasizing social-emotional learning through the Collaborative for Academic, Social, and Emotional Learning. He holds degrees from Yale University, Catholic University, and a doctorate in education from the University of Connecticut. Furthermore, Tim Shriver is also a film producer and New York Times bestselling author. Episode Summary: Greg engages in a thought-provoking discourse with Tim Shriver. Tim reflects on personal stories, such as the profound loss of his cousin Maeve Kennedy McKean, underscoring the importance of empathy and dignity in healing societal divides. They discuss the structural issues behind today's political landscape, the role of media, and the influence of faith-based institutions. Furthermore, the episode explores actionable steps individuals can take to foster respect and understanding in their communities, with Tim providing insights from his new initiatives and upcoming podcast, "Need A Lift?". Key Takeaways: Treating Others with Dignity: Tim emphasizes that building relationships through respect is fundamental to mitigating societal polarization. Actionable Steps for Change: Listeners are encouraged to actively reject contemptuous behavior in their political engagements and media consumption. Cultural Shifts: The conversation highlights the shift in today's cultural and political landscape and the importance of developing resilience and empathy. Impact of Individual Actions: The discussion underscores how small personal changes can collectively lead to significant societal transformations. Faith-Based Institutions: Insights are provided into how faith-based institutions can evolve to better meet the needs of modern society. Notable Quotes: "Treating people with dignity doesn't mean you don't believe strongly. It just means that you also see, at the deepest level, that the other person also has dignity." - Tim Shriver "We face a serious understanding paradox in our times, that as information has exploded, understanding has imploded." - Greg McKeown "It's not how you treat your side, it's how you treat the other side that will bring them back." - Tim Shriver Resources: Tim Shriver on Twitter Join my weekly newsletter. Learn more about my books and courses. Join The Essentialism Academy. Follow me on LinkedIn, Instagram, X, Facebook, and YouTube.

About the Guests: Kim Clark: Former Dean of Harvard Business School and President of BYU Idaho. He has an extensive career in academia and leadership, shaping and leading renowned educational institutions. Jonathan Clark: A PhD from Harvard and currently a professor at the University of Texas. Jonathan brings a wealth of knowledge from both his executive education experiences and extensive fieldwork. Erin Clark: Managing Director and US National Leader for Deloitte’s Human Capital Consulting's leadership offerings. With over 20 years of experience as an executive coach, Erin specializes in fostering leadership and driving organizational change. Episode Summary: Greg and his guests continue to tackle the profound differences between superficial leadership tactics and truly ethical, value-based leadership. With real-world examples ranging from historical contexts to modern organizational behavior, the discussion sheds light on the internal battle between self-interest and collective well-being. The Clarks share actionable insights on empowering others, recognizing the dangers of conflating control with good outcomes, and creating environments where people can thrive.  Key Takeaways: The Essence of Leading Through: Transitioning from a controlling mindset to one that fosters collective growth and individual empowerment. Importance of Love in Leadership: Making other people your primary focus and building deeper connections through attention, affection, and genuine listening. Competence as Protection: How being exceptionally good at your job can shield you from toxic leadership and help you excel. Handling Power Over Dynamics: Strategies for identifying and addressing controlling behaviors in leadership while maintaining your integrity and effectiveness. Moral and Ethical Leadership: The necessity of aligning leadership decisions with fundamental values that promote long-term organizational success and individual well-being. Notable Quotes: "You can choose to use your agency in ways that continue the control or choose something different." - Greg McKeown "The continuum is desires and appetites and passions that lead you to damage or hurt other people." - Kim Clark "Every person sort of comes into the world the agency, starting at zero." - Greg McKeown "If you're mediocre, there's no recourse. But if you're really good at what you're doing, then the power over is still there, and you're not worried." - Kim Clark "Leadership is moral and it is about making things better for as many people as we can." - Erin Clark Resources: Buy The Clark's Book "Leading Through" Join my weekly newsletter. Learn more about my books and courses. Join The Essentialism Academy. Follow me on LinkedIn, Instagram, X, Facebook, and YouTube.

About the Guests: Kim Clark: Former Dean of Harvard Business School and President of BYU Idaho. He has an extensive career in academia and leadership, shaping and leading renowned educational institutions. Jonathan Clark: A PhD from Harvard and currently a professor at the University of Texas. Jonathan brings a wealth of knowledge from both his executive education experiences and extensive fieldwork. Erin Clark: Managing Director and US National Leader for Deloitte’s Human Capital Consulting's leadership offerings. With over 20 years of experience as an executive coach, Erin specializes in fostering leadership and driving organizational change. Episode Summary: Greg is joined by the dynamic Clark family trio: Kim, Jonathan, and Erin Clark. Together, they explore challenging paradigms within modern organizations, emphasizing the detrimental impacts of the "power over" model and introducing their revolutionary "leading through" approach. This paradigm shift is pivotal in restoring personal agency within organizations, leading to enhanced innovation, productivity, and employee well-being. Throughout the episode, the Clarks present compelling arguments that highlight the necessity of recognizing and cultivating true leadership across the board, extending beyond mere compliance to inspiring genuine engagement and unity. Key Takeaways: Power Over Paradigm: Many modern organizations operate under a control-focused paradigm that limits personal agency and stifles innovation. Leadership at All Levels: True leadership isn't confined to positions of authority; it should be nurtured at every level of an organization, empowering individuals to drive change. Counterfeit Unity: In power-over organizations, unity is often superficial, driven by compliance rather than genuine engagement and alignment with shared goals. Moral Core of Leadership: Leadership is inherently a moral act, emerging in moments of influence where choices can drive positive or negative impacts. Generating Light: Effective leaders foster environments of light, driving out fear and darkness, and enabling individuals to thrive and contribute meaningfully. Notable Quotes: Jonathan Clark: "Leadership is always and everywhere a moral act." Kim Clark: "One of the things that leaders do is they drive out darkness and they generate light." Greg McKeown: "You don't comply your way to the best work of your career." Resources: Buy The Clark's Book "Leading Through" Join my weekly newsletter. Learn more about my books and courses. Join The Essentialism Academy. Follow me on LinkedIn, Instagram, X, Facebook, and YouTube.

Wilbur Ross is a prominent figure in global finance with over half a century of experience in investment banking and private equity. Named among Bloomberg Markets' 50 most influential people in global finance, Ross has built a significant legacy. He served as the 39th US Secretary of Commerce under the Trump administration. Known for his expertise in navigating economic crises, Ross has been honored with numerous awards, including a medal from South Korea's President Kim Dae-Jung and Japan's Order of the Rising Sun, Gold and Silver Star. He recently authored a book detailing key anecdotes and moments from his extraordinary life and career. Episode Summary: king, private equity, and his tenure in the Trump administration. The discussion offers practical wisdom and insightful anecdotes, making this an episode packed with valuable lessons for anyone interested in economics, business, and public policy. The conversation transitions smoothly through various impactful stages of Ross's life, shining a light on the critical influences that shaped his path, such as his mentor General Georges Doriot. Ross shares the significance of Doriot's teachings, which range from professional appearance to public speaking, and how they have played an integral role in his success. Additionally, the episode sheds light on Ross's time in Washington, emphasizing the unique power dynamics and the importance of titles within governmental structures, providing listeners with a well-rounded perspective on the intersection of business and politics. Key Takeaways: Versatility in Career: Ross discusses the importance of having multiple career phases—business, government, and intellectual pursuits—mirroring the diverse paths taken by his mentor, General Dorriott. Mentorship Influence: The stepping stones in Ross's career were significantly shaped by General George F. Dorriott, whose teachings on conduct, presentation, and public persona left a lasting impact. Power Dynamics in Washington: Ross underscores that Washington's primary currency is power, heavily influenced by one’s title, affecting social standings and influence, which contrasts sharply with other sectors. Unprecedented Personal Branding: Ross notes that Donald Trump’s transition from business to presidency is marked by his unparalleled personal brand, making him a unique figure even before his political career. Retrospective Advice: Reflecting on his career, Ross wishes he had transitioned to entrepreneurship earlier, emphasizing the value of taking bold steps sooner rather than later. Notable Quotes: “I think it's having several different careers just as he did. He had the commercial career, he had the government career in the form of the military, and he had an intellectual career in terms of the schools.” “The unusual thing I noticed was that the power of a title varies inversely and exponentially with its length.” “The people who rule the world wear long socks and Hermes ties.” Resources: Buy Wilbur Ross’s New Book Join my weekly newsletter. Learn more about my books and courses. Join The Essentialism Academy. Follow me on LinkedIn, Instagram, X, Facebook, and YouTube.

Wilbur Ross is a prominent figure in global finance with over half a century of experience in investment banking and private equity. Named among Bloomberg Markets' 50 most influential people in global finance, Ross has built a significant legacy. He served as the 39th US Secretary of Commerce under the Trump administration. Known for his expertise in navigating economic crises, Ross has been honored with numerous awards, including a medal from South Korea's President Kim Dae-Jung and Japan's Order of the Rising Sun, Gold and Silver Star. He recently authored a book detailing key anecdotes and moments from his extraordinary life and career. Episode Summary: Greg sits down with Wilbur Ross, the former US Secretary of Commerce, to discuss Ross's extensive career in global finance and his experiences within the Trump administration. With over 50 years in investment banking and private equity, Ross shares a fascinating glimpse into his professional journey and his strategies for navigating complex financial landscapes. Central to their discussion are Ross's strategies for reducing bureaucratic inefficiencies and his nuanced understanding of Trump's leadership style. Ross details the administration's historical approach to trade agreements, emphasizing the need for regulatory simplification and cost-cutting measures. Highlighting their administrative goals and the mechanisms to implement a streamlined government operation, Ross provides a candid look into the Trump administration's internal dynamics, decision-making processes, and policy impacts. Key Takeaways: Bureaucratic Simplification: Wilbur Ross underscores the Trump administration's strategies for cutting costs by reducing bureaucratic red tape and implementing efficient regulations. Understanding Trump's Leadership: Ross provides insight into how he navigated his relationship with President Trump, emphasizing the importance of aligning policy views and understanding Trump's communication style. Economic and Trade Policies: The episode delves into significant trade agreements and policies, particularly focusing on relationships with China, Canada, and Mexico. Structural Challenges in Government: Ross discusses the structural inefficiencies within the federal government, such as outdated technology and complex regulatory frameworks. Future Administration Insights: Ross predicts a potential second term for Trump would see more streamlined operations due to learned experiences and a cohesive team. Notable Quotes: "Complexity breeds vulnerability because every time you add another element, you add a point that can create a problem." "In general, partisanship is much more extreme in the US than it ever used to be." "Trump believes that government is more often the cause of a problem than it is the solution of a problem." Resources: Buy Wilbur Ross’s New Book Join my weekly newsletter. Learn more about my books and courses. Join The Essentialism Academy. Follow me on LinkedIn, Instagram, X, Facebook, and YouTube.

About the Guest: Jodi Wellman is the author of You Only Die Once, a book that approaches the topic of living a meaningful life with a darkly humorous twist. With a career spanning 25 years, Jodi is a seasoned positive psychologist, executive coach, and founder who has delivered keynotes, workshops, and coaching programs. She collaborates with some of the world's leading researchers on happiness and well-being, and is dedicated to helping people enhance their life's quality and vitality. Episode Summary: Greg celebrates the ten-year anniversary of his seminal work, "Essentialism," and welcomes Jodi Wellman, author of "You Only Die Once." The conversation revolves around the critical idea of death awareness as a tool for making life more meaningful and joyful. They explore the discomfort and avoidance many people have toward the topic of death and the consequent deferral of their dreams. Jodi shares practical exercises and thought-provoking insights to help people confront their mortality and use that awareness to live more vibrant lives. The episode touches on how societal norms often prioritize careers over personal lives and relationships Key Takeaways: Death Awareness as a Tool: The awareness of our own mortality can be a powerful motivator to live more fully and meaningfully. Overcoming Fear: People often defer their dreams not out of busy schedules, but due to fear and self-doubt. The Double Obituary Exercise: Writing an obituary can help pinpoint what truly matters, allowing us to align our lives with our ultimate goals and values. Importance of Relationships: The biggest contributors to enduring happiness are often our social and familial relationships. Living Fully Now: Rather than postponing joys and aspirations to an uncertain future, find ways to integrate meaningful experiences into the present. Notable Quotes: "Death awareness, death acceptance, it's a spectrum." – Jodi Wellman "What about the life you're living now? Doesn't that deserve to get lived the crap out of?" – Jodi Wellman "Sometimes it's the simple, sweet things that deliver the essence of life." – Jodi Wellman "Do not procrastinate the day of your repentance." – Greg McKeown "It's about paying attention to what brings you joy now and making sure your current life is fulfilling." – Greg McKeown Resources: Buy Jodi's book: You Only Die Once. Visit Jodi's website. Join my weekly newsletter. Learn more about my books and courses. Join The Essentialism Academy. Follow me on LinkedIn, Instagram, X, Facebook, and YouTube.

About the Guest: Jodi Wellman is the author of You Only Die Once, a book that approaches the topic of living a meaningful life with a darkly humorous twist. With a career spanning 25 years, Jodi is a seasoned positive psychologist, executive coach, and founder who has delivered keynotes, workshops, and coaching programs. She collaborates with some of the world's leading researchers on happiness and well-being, and is dedicated to helping people enhance their life's quality and vitality. Episode Summary: Greg dives deep into the subject of living a meaningful and vibrant life with guest Jodi Wellman, author of You Only Die Once. Celebrating the ten-year anniversary of his book Essentialism, Greg provides insights into eliminating non-essentials to create a life that truly matters. Meanwhile, Jodi offers her expertise on embracing both the vitality and depth of our everyday existence. Jodi Wellman emphasizes the importance of confronting our mortality to live more fully. She introduces the concept of the "pre mortem" versus the "post mortem," urging listeners to assess their lives now rather than later. She explains her four life quadrants—meaningfully bored, vitally empty, dead zone, and astonishingly alive—and shares insights from her research involving over 14,000 participants. The discussion also touches on personal philosophies, including dealing with regrets, taking responsibility for one's life, and balancing fun with purpose. Key Takeaways: Confronting Death for a Better Life: Reflecting on mortality can heighten your sense of urgency to live more meaningfully and vibrantly. Pre Mortem Concept: Jodi Wellman’s pre mortem approach helps people self-assess to enhance their current life rather than regret missed opportunities later. Life Quadrants: The four quadrants—meaningfully bored, vitally empty, dead zone, and astonishingly alive—aid in identifying where you can improve your life’s vitality and meaning. Responsibility and Agency: Taking responsibility for your life increases your sense of agency and ability to live "on brand" with your true self. Balancing Fun and Purpose: Personal happiness and fulfillment come from balancing vitality (fun) and meaning (purpose), tailored to your unique preferences and values. Notable Quotes: "Living a life that really matters is about figuring out what's essential and eliminating what is non-essential." "Most people fall into what's called meaningfully bored." "Taking responsibility for your life increases your sense of agency." Resources: Buy Jodi's book: You Only Die Once. Visit Jodi's website. Join my weekly newsletter. Learn more about my books and courses. Join The Essentialism Academy. Follow me on LinkedIn, Instagram, X, Facebook, and YouTube.

About the Guest: Dr. Mithu Storoni is a University of Cambridge-trained physician, neuroscience researcher, and ophthalmic surgeon. Renowned for her expertise in mental performance and stress management, she advises multinational corporations on optimizing brain function. She is the author of the forthcoming book "Hyperefficient," which explores revolutionary concepts in maximizing the quality of cognitive outputs. Episode Summary: Greg McKeown interviews Dr. Mitu Storoni about her upcoming book "Hyperefficient" and the concept of optimizing your brain for hyper-efficiency, discussing the physiological impacts of stress and how to manage mental performance effectively. Dr. Storoni introduces the concept of three mental gears—gear one (relaxed and daydreaming), gear two (focused and attentive), and gear three (hyper-vigilant and distracted). She discusses how different environments and personal habits influence which gear our brain operates in, stressing the importance of maintaining a balance to achieve peak mental performance. They examine how information overload and constant stimuli can push us into less productive states and the importance of understanding your "gear personality" to enhance productivity. Dr. Storoni provides actionable insights on creating a work and home environment that facilitates entering gear two, optimizing moments of creativity, and managing the balance of stimulation and relaxation. Key Takeaways: Understanding Mental Gears: Learn about the three mental gears—gear one (relaxed), gear two (focused), and gear three (hyper-vigilant)—and their impact on productivity. - Information Overload: Discover the detrimental effects of fragmented information and the importance of understanding your "gear personality" to manage mental performance. - Optimal Work Environment: Tips on modifying your work and home environment to help shift your brain into gear two for optimal performance. - Role of Deadlines and Stress: How deadlines and uncertainty can push you into less productive mental states and strategies to mitigate this. - Daily Routine Adjustments: Insights on how small changes in your daily routine can enhance mental efficiency and creativity.` Notable Quotes: "Information is the root cause of uncertainty, because the information we're receiving now is uninvited and is fragmented." -Dr. Mithu Storoni "When we are receiving fragmented information, we have an immediate urge, and it's fragmented in a very particular way so that it's not completely blank." -Dr. Mithu Storoni "So this is a spectrum. So what this essentially means is that in any environment, our brains are going to react to the same environment in different ways." -Dr. Mithu Storoni Resources: Visit Mithu's website. Follow Mithu on X and LinkIn. Preorder Mithu's book Hyperefficient Join my weekly newsletter. Learn more about my books and courses. Join The Essentialism Academy. Follow me on LinkedIn, Instagram, X, Facebook, and YouTube.

About the Guest: Dr. Mithu Storoni is a University of Cambridge-trained physician, neuroscience researcher, and ophthalmic surgeon. Renowned for her expertise in mental performance and stress management, she advises multinational corporations on optimizing brain function. She is the author of the forthcoming book "Hyperefficient," which explores revolutionary concepts in maximizing the quality of cognitive outputs. Episode Summary: Greg McKeown interviews Dr. Mitu Storoni about her upcoming book "Hyperefficient" and the need to redefine workplace efficiency by prioritizing quality over quantity in the age of AI and automation. Dr. Storoni introduces her framework of three mental "gears" to explain cognitive overload and emphasizes the importance of recognizing one's cognitive state to enhance productivity. The discussion includes practical strategies for managing workloads and improving mental health while navigating the challenges of constant connectivity and modern communication. Key Takeaways: Redefining Efficiency: The traditional definition of efficiency, focused on quantity, is outdated. In the AI era, the focus shifts to quality of output. Historical Context: From the Industrial Revolution to the Knowledge Age, metrics of productivity have evolved, but the need for high-quality, creative thinking has always been key. Impact of Technology: Advanced communication technologies, from the telegraph to the smartphone, have distorted our sense of reality, space, and time. Marshall McLuhan's Insights: The medium changes the users, not just the message. This impacts how we think and interact with the world. Cognitive Overload: The relentless flood of information and the blurring of personal and global events can lead to significant cognitive strain and disorientation. Notable Quotes: "Efficiency now means producing as much as you can of a quantity, but hyperefficiency is about producing quality." – Dr. Mithu Storoni "Our sense of an event taking place is tightly woven into how soon after the event we become aware of it." – Dr. Mithu Storoni "In the medium, you can't see the effect of the medium on you unless you actually step outside." – Dr. Mithu Storoni Resources: Visit Mithu's website. Follow Mithu on X and LinkIn. Preorder Mithu's book Hyperefficient Join my weekly newsletter. Learn more about my books and courses. Join The Essentialism Academy. Follow me on LinkedIn, Instagram, X, Facebook, and YouTube.