Zcash Founder on Privacy, AI, and How ZEC is 'Encrypted Bitcoin' | Zooko Wilcox-O'Hearn

Zcash founder Zooko Wilcox joins Bankless to argue that privacy is back on the critical path—because AI turns chain surveillance into pattern-recognition at scale—and that the real bottleneck for cypherpunk tools has always been UX and onboarding. We dig into Zcash’s “encrypted Bitcoin” meme, the dev fund’s evolving design (and why it helped Zcash survive), recent ZEC momentum, and the wallet/intents stack that makes private spending actually usable. Plus: why “value at rest” beats “value in flight,” what it would take for Ethereum to get meaningful privacy, and the debate over strengthening the 21M cap (and whether Zcash should add new security mechanisms without losing the meme). ------ 🔮POLYMARKET | #1 PREDICTION MARKET https://bankless.cc/polymarket-podcast 🏅BITGET TRADFI | TRADE GOLD WITH USDT https://bankless.cc/bitget-futures 👑BANKLESS PREMIUM | AD-FREE & BONUS EPISODES https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium 🎯THE DEFI REPORT | ONCHAIN INSIGHTS https://bankless.cc/TDR-pro 💰ICO WATCH | UPCOMING PUBLIC TOKEN SALES https://bankless.cc/ico-watch  ------ TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 0:46 What Failed 3:58 What Succeeded 5:04 Institutional Adoption 6:53 Areas Neglected 10:51 The Cypherpunk Vision 18:53 Can The Cypherpunks Win? 23:19 Crypto’s Path to Success 27:44 Crypto vs Linux 30:39 AI Cypherpunks? 33:05 Optimism 35:49 AI Surveillance 37:10 Zcash 43:02 Zcash Dev Fund 51:45 Zashi Governance Drama 56:32 Zcash Privacy Practices 1:15:56 AI Privacy Consequences 1:22:31 Is Zec a Store of Value 1:26:01 Encrypted Bitcoin? 1:29:01 Ethereum Privacy & Anoma 1:33:14 Closing & Disclaimers ------ RESOURCES Zooko https://x.com/zooko  Zcash https://z.cash/  Zashi https://z.cash/ecosystem/zashi-wallet/  Anoma https://anoma.net/  ------ Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures⁠

Markets slide this week as Trump floats taking Greenland and tariff threats resurface, pushing investors toward gold. Ryan and David break down what Davos revealed about a shifting world order, why crypto finally had a real seat at the table, and the moments from Brian Armstrong and Larry Fink that framed Crypto versus Central Banks. Plus: the NYSE unveils a tokenized trading platform and whether it validates or co-opts DeFi, Farcaster and Lens are acquired as on-chain social hits a crossroads, and a Jefferies strategist drops Bitcoin over quantum fears. Finally, an update on the Clarity Act delay and the race for the next Fed chair. --- 📣 IMMUNEFI | $IMU TOKEN LAUNCH https://bankless.cc/ImmunefiICO --- BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🔮POLYMARKET | #1 PREDICTION MARKET https://bankless.cc/polymarket-podcast 🏅BITGET TRADFI | TRADE GOLD WITH USDT https://bankless.cc/bitget-futures 👑BANKLESS PREMIUM | AD-FREE & BONUS EPISODES https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium 🎯THE DEFI REPORT | ONCHAIN INSIGHTS https://bankless.cc/TDR-pro 💰ICO WATCH | UPCOMING PUBLIC TOKEN SALES https://bankless.cc/ico-watch --- TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES 0:00 Intro 2:31 Why are markets down https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2013591373006676322 https://x.com/FoxNews/status/2013603538513863126 https://edition.cnn.com/2026/01/14/politics/greenland-trump-nato-denmark https://x.com/CBSNews/status/2013983374549946581  https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2014089644288196691 https://polymarket.com/event/will-trump-acquire-greenland-before-2027 https://polymarket.com/event/will-the-us-acquire-any-part-of-greenland-in-2026 https://x.com/fejau_inc/status/2013610390698041805 https://x.com/thestalwart/status/2013580367123423518 https://x.com/Strategy/status/2013598056000725476 15:12 Davos power shifts https://x.com/CommerceGov/status/2013638111977222213  https://x.com/KanwalSibal/status/2013863207962845315 https://x.com/alreadydawn/status/2011855946298032188 https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/2013947391733342444 https://x.com/MSBIntel/status/2014311838092284200 https://x.com/gazza_jenks/status/2014316956787077193 https://x.com/RWAwatchlist_/status/2014302865515479322 25:45 Next Fed Chair https://polymarket.com/event/who-will-trump-nominate-as-fed-chair https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Warsh 29:23 NYSE tokenization platform https://ir.theice.com/press/news-details/2026/The-New-York-Stock-Exchange-Develops-Tokenized-Securities-Platform/default.aspx https://x.com/sytaylor/status/2013248790988214418 https://x.com/jdorman81/status/2013273153544323438 https://x.com/intangiblecoins/status/2013302033286054109 https://x.com/malekanoms/status/2013597558413664443 37:10 Onchain social handover https://farcaster.xyz/dwr/0x72aab3a5 https://x.com/neynarxyz/status/2014046158700659072 https://x.com/0xfoobar/status/2014169292736979296 https://x.com/StaniKulechov/status/2013617272464580990 https://lens.xyz/news/mask-network-to-steward-the-next-chapter-of-lens https://x.com/hishboy/status/2014050332675121169 https://x.com/VitalikButerin/status/2013884907659944205 https://firefly.social/signup https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/2014338767847354766 https://x.com/VitalikButerin/status/2011325527567544393 45:57 Clarity Act delay https://x.com/DegenerateNews/status/2014119477923705271 https://x.com/eleanorterrett/status/2014139061103907238 https://x.com/brian_armstrong/status/2012612712044573151 https://x.com/patrickjwitt/status/2013776653902614547 https://polymarket.com/event/clarity-act-signed-into-law-in-2026 50:00 Stablecoin payroll https://x.com/base/status/2013752842822038000 https://imgur.com/a/9kriKIV 51:42 Bitcoin & quantum https://x.com/matthew_sigel/status/2013266516112712139 https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7414027710861045761/ https://x.com/bitcoinofficesv/status/1961564696856727947 https://x.com/batsoupyum/status/2013606402976293243 https://x.com/nic_carter/status/2013781321638695383 https://www.coinbase.com/blog/coinbase-establishes-independent-advisory-board-on-quantum-computing-and-blockchain 59:40 Regulation & Trad https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/2013626808474968164 https://x.com/felixprotocol/status/2011831820371828920 https://x.com/0xBroze/status/2011832444102561838 https://x.com/JupiterExchange/status/2013987873943334919 1:01:02 Closing & Disclaimers --- Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures

Crypto in 2026 is consolidating into a handful of high-stakes rivalries:  Ethereum vs. Solana for the center of gravity, Coinbase vs. Robinhood for the finance super-app, and Polymarket vs. Kalshi for prediction markets.  Arnav Pagidyala (Bankless Ventures) joins David and Ryan to map the investment implications, why incentives-driven L1s keep leaking liquidity, what makes Morpho’s institutional playbook work, and whether Hyperliquid, wallets, and onchain rails start eating the exchange business.  We also dig into the comeback of ICOs, what it would take for tokens to become truly investable, and why proof-of-personhood and privacy-preserving KYC may become unavoidable infrastructure. ------ 🔮POLYMARKET | #1 PREDICTION MARKET https://bankless.cc/polymarket-podcast 🏅BITGET TRADFI | TRADE GOLD WITH USDT https://bankless.cc/bitget-trading 👑BANKLESS PREMIUM | AD-FREE & BONUS EPISODES https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium 🎯THE DEFI REPORT | ONCHAIN INSIGHTS https://bankless.cc/TDR-pro 💰ICO WATCH | UPCOMING PUBLIC TOKEN SALES https://bankless.cc/ico-watch  ------ TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 1:12 Ethereum & Solana 7:33 Why Solana is Winning 9:27 L1 Valuations 13:13 Coinbase & Robinhood 17:16 Base Contentcoins 20:32 Kalshi & Polymarket 23:19 Prediction Market Tokens 24:45 Store of Value Duopoly 27:21 Tokens in 2026 29:41 Tokens & Equity Alignment 31:01 MetaDAO 32:42 ICOs 34:44 Morpho 39:17 Morpho & Aave 40:41 Perp Exchanges 44:28 Proof of Personhood 48:42 Fat Wallet Thesis 51:45 X & Crypto 53:27 AI & Vibecoding 55:28 Is Crypto Dead? 57:18 Capital Stack Moving Onchain 59:10 What About TradFi? 1:02:15 Closing & Disclaimers ------ RESOURCES Arnav Pagidyala https://x.com/0xArnav  Bankless Ventures https://x.com/banklessvc  Investing Trends for 2026 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Poes3EpAR5c ------ Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures⁠

Washington takes center stage this week as crypto collides with power, policy, and markets. Ryan and David break down the CLARITY Act fight in the Senate, why banks want to kill stablecoin yield, and why Coinbase says the bill may be worse than no bill at all. They also unpack Trump’s DOJ targeting Jerome Powell and what it means for Fed independence, silver’s explosive move as markets search for safety, X’s push toward becoming a crypto super app, and the NYC mayor’s meme coin disaster. Plus: Tom Lee’s surprising MrBeast investment and what it signals about capital, culture, and crypto’s next phase. --- 📣ZAMA | $ZAMA PUBLIC AUCTION  https://bankless.cc/zama-auction --- BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🔮POLYMARKET | #1 PREDICTION MARKET https://bankless.cc/polymarket-podcast 🏅BITGET TRADFI | TRADE GOLD WITH USDT https://bankless.cc/bitget 👑BANKLESS PREMIUM | AD-FREE & BONUS EPISODES https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium 🎯THE DEFI REPORT | ONCHAIN INSIGHTS https://bankless.cc/TDR-pro 💰ICO WATCH | UPCOMING PUBLIC TOKEN SALES https://bankless.cc/ico-watch --- TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES 0:00 Intro 2:25 DOJ opened an investigation into Jerome Powell https://x.com/federalreserve/status/2010510130970849338  https://x.com/federalreserve/status/2010510130970849338 https://x.com/LynAldenContact/status/2010526966953202125 https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/powell-probe-highlights-trump-doj-role-white-house-enforcer-2026-01-14/ https://polymarket.com/event/jerome-powell-out-as-fed-chair-by 10:44 Markets https://x.com/JesseCohenInv/status/2011311082896572766 https://www.coinnews.net/2025/01/09/american-silver-eagle-series-welcomes-2025-w-proof-edition/ https://www.google.com/finance/beta/quote/GLD:NYSEARCA https://x.com/echodatruth/status/2010568502474571870 https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/13/cpi-inflation-report-december-2026.html https://polymarket.com/dashboards/fed-rates 20:52 Most important Legislation for crypto…ever? https://x.com/Cointelegraph/status/2010709769187676430 https://x.com/DavidMMcintosh/status/2010389058271289845 https://www.aba.com/-/media/documents/letters-to-congress-and-regulators/ltrsenatestablecoin20260105.pdf https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2026/01/11/jpmorgan-downplays-stablecoin-threat-as-local-bankers-warn-of-usd6-6t-risk https://x.com/EleanorTerrett/status/2009795675635306737 https://x.com/USTransparent https://x.com/haydenzadams/status/2009809558605299914 https://x.com/SenLummis/status/2010939496830030038 https://x.com/jchervinsky/status/2011464338528166081 https://x.com/jchervinsky/status/2011464341556428936 https://x.com/davidsacks47/status/2011650262361129193 https://polymarket.com/event/clarity-act-signed-into-law-in-2026 https://x.com/Matt_Hougan/status/2010841027800895514 42:09 NYC Mayor Eric Adams issued a memecoin https://x.com/runecrypto_/status/2010847811781230781 https://x.com/ericadamsfornyc/status/2010849167258566727 https://x.com/bubblemaps/status/2010890093431832789 https://x.com/ericadamsfornyc/status/2011541285354815932 https://x.com/buynyctoken/status/2011501230288257452 https://x.com/haydenzadams/status/2010945632505127317 46:41 TOM LEE - BITMINE….invests $200m in MR BEAST MEDIA https://x.com/DegenerateNews/status/2011774463818518813  https://x.com/DegenerateNews/status/2011810278980120830  49:53 World Liberty Financial launched a lending platform https://worldlibertyfinancial.com/markets https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2026/01/13/senate-s-warren-wlfi-tied-bank-application-should-be-halted-until-trump-divests https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/dolomite 51:45 Polygon….ALL IN on STABLECOIN STACK with two major acquisitions https://x.com/0xPolygon/status/2011076681302446556 https://x.com/HadickM/status/2011099510957580437 https://x.com/sandeepnailwal/status/2009763000895344766 https://x.com/obchakevich_/status/2008876239285637419 54:21 X is rolling out Smart Cashtags & Killing InfoFi https://x.com/nikitabier/status/2010277345651990564 https://x.com/jessepollak/status/2010404608263520356 https://www.theblock.co/post/385805/kaito-token-plummets-x-revises-api-policies-ban-infofi-crypto-projects https://x.com/nikitabier/status/2011825522817270230 https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/kaito 58:33 BitGo IPO - $2 billion! ($100 billion in custody) https://x.com/AccessIPOs/status/2010727529238417549 59:16 The Golden Globes integrated Polymarket into their broadcast https://x.com/shayne_coplan/status/2010862175607488709 1:00:38 David’s Market of the Week https://polymarket.com/event/khamenei-out-as-supreme-leader-of-iran-by-january-31 https://x.com/polymarket/status/2009382529384497184 1:05:00 Closing & Disclaimers --- Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures

What if the biggest threat to your freedom isn’t a bad decision - but a scoreboard you never agreed to? Philosopher C. Thi Nguyen joins Bankless to unpack how modern life quietly turns values into points: likes, GPAs, net worth, rankings, and performance metrics that feel objective - but often flatten what matters most. We explore what games really are, why “gamified” platforms like social media can be uniquely corrosive, and how “value capture” pulls you from meaning into measurable proxies. Then we get practical: playfulness, reflective control, and “value federalism” as ways to use metrics without letting them use you. --- 📣SPOTIFY PREMIUM RSS FEED | USE CODE: SPOTIFY24 https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium --- 🔮POLYMARKET | #1 PREDICTION MARKET https://bankless.cc/polymarket-podcast 👑BANKLESS PREMIUM | AD-FREE & BONUS EPISODES https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium 🎯THE DEFI REPORT | ONCHAIN INSIGHTS https://bankless.cc/the-defi-report 💰ICO WATCH | UPCOMING PUBLIC TOKEN SALES https://bankless.cc/ico-watch --- TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 0:58 “Is this the game you really want to be playing?” 5:45 What counts as a game (Bernard Suits’ definition) 11:38 Bankless “serious games” and the cheating test 16:29 Social media as “game-ish,” not truly a game 21:28 The magic circle and why points get dangerous 24:08 Rotten Tomatoes vs. forming your own taste 33:27 Portability: why metrics flatten nuance 38:15 Value capture: when your values get outsourced 45:52 Plato’s cave: “metrics are the new shadows” 54:12 The outsourcing dilemma: we can’t know everything 1:01:47 Playfulness as an antidote to metric hypnosis 1:12:55 Switching rule-sets: D&D, indie games, and redesigning incentives 1:16:22 Reflective control: using metrics without being used 1:20:21 Two endings: cynicism, hope, and the tradeoff of scale 1:23:38 Value federalism + why "Civilization" makes Thi miserable --- RESOURCES C. Thi Nguyen https://x.com/add_hawk C. Thi Nguyen’s “The Score” Book https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/457380/the-score-by-nguyen-c-thi/9780241653975 --- Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures

Is Canton a real blockchain or a new kind of capital-markets operating system? Digital Asset co-founder Yuval Rooz explains why Canton prioritizes privacy as “need-to-know” information sharing and a federated “cantons” design that still allows atomic cross-canton transactions without bridges. We unpack the two-tier architecture (edge validators + super validators that stitch cantons together and validate the public Canton Coin) and what that means for governance in regulated finance. Plus: DTCC’s tokenization pilot starting with U.S. Treasuries, and why CC fees are USD-denominated with a burn/mint mechanism designed to track real network utility.  ------ 🎬 DEBRIEF | RYAN & DAVID UNPACKING THE EPISODE https://www.bankless.com/podcast/debrief-is-canton-even-a-real-blockchain ------ 🔮POLYMARKET | #1 PREDICTION MARKET https://bankless.cc/polymarket-podcast 👑BANKLESS PREMIUM | AD-FREE & BONUS EPISODES https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium 🎯THE DEFI REPORT | ONCHAIN INSIGHTS https://bankless.cc/the-defi-report 💰ICO WATCH | UPCOMING PUBLIC TOKEN SALES https://bankless.cc/ico-watch ------ TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 0:57 Canton Origin 8:02 Vitalik’s Post 14:15 Canton Philosophy 24:19 Canton Architecture vs Competitors 34:27 RWA Property Rights Debate 38:17 Canto Super-Validators 50:39 Canton Critiques 56:56 Decentralized vs Open Finance 1:02:16 Are Decentralized RWAs Possible? 1:07:04 Is Canton a Real Blockchain? 1:14:20 Canton Metrics 1:22:17 DTCC Relationship 1:25:27 Canton Token 1:30:43 Ethereum vs Canton in 2030 1:31:55 Closing & Disclaimers ------ RESOURCES Yuval Rooz https://x.com/YuvalRooz  Canton https://www.canton.network/  Omid Malekan vs Austin Campbell Professor Debate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-h-PeUOvDw RWA Analytics https://app.rwa.xyz/  ------ Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures⁠

Prediction markets are turning into real-time intelligence, and policymakers are already reacting. In this week’s Weekly Rollup, Ryan and David unpack the Venezuela “Maduro” trade, the debate over fairness vs. public signal, and Polymarket’s expansion into real estate markets. They also cover Bitcoin’s lowest-vol year ever, Solana’s DEX surge, Ethereum’s stablecoin settlement ATH, Morgan Stanley’s crypto ETF filings, Zcash’s governance blowup, Lighter’s massive $LIT airdrop, Vitalik’s “trilemma solved” claim, Wyoming’s state stablecoin, and Strategy’s path toward major indices. --- 📣ZAMA | $ZAMA PUBLIC AUCTION  https://bankless.cc/zama-auction --- BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🔮POLYMARKET | #1 PREDICTION MARKET https://bankless.cc/polymarket-podcast 👑BANKLESS PREMIUM | AD-FREE & BONUS EPISODES https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium 🎯THE DEFI REPORT | ONCHAIN INSIGHTS https://bankless.cc/the-defi-report 💰ICO WATCH | UPCOMING PUBLIC TOKEN SALES https://bankless.cc/ico-watch --- TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES 0:00 Intro 2:49 Markets https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/2025-ray-dalio-kaf8e/ https://x.com/dampedspring/status/2008568524046991733 https://www.coinglass.com/pro/i/bl https://www.dlnews.com/articles/regulation/bitcoin-least-volatile-year/ https://x.com/NTmoney/status/2007111582317215767 https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2007167084980044071 https://x.com/smyyguy/status/2009282261384888407 https://x.com/Cointelegraph/status/2007980573365502161 https://x.com/ericbalchunas/status/2008527564550156315 https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/2008926447205843202 https://x.com/Matt_Hougan/status/2008542347425149247 14:03 Did Polymarket reveal the Venezuela invasion hours prior the announcement? https://www.war.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/4370431/trump-announces-us-militarys-capture-of-maduro/ https://x.com/JoePompliano/status/2007455311351718118 https://x.com/0xKelle/status/2008099287851561262 https://x.com/JakeSherman/status/2007497192974459372 https://x.com/QuiverQuant/status/2008029132484206664 https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/2008245382539882784 https://x.com/zoomerfied/status/2008184924377960502 25:41 Polymarket Market of the Week 27:42 ZEC dump and resignation  https://x.com/solidintel_x/status/2009172254496870816 https://x.com/DefiIgnas/status/2009235841751613660 31:05 Lighter launched the Lighter Infrastructure Token https://x.com/Lighter_xyz/status/2005862682608472263 https://x.com/bubblemaps/status/2006296418622001313 https://defillama.com/protocol/perps/lighter-perps https://x.com/Lighter_xyz/status/2008309047787753497 35:27 Has Ethereum resolved the blockchain trilemma?  https://x.com/VitalikButerin/status/2007559523528233041 https://x.com/ralexstokes/status/2008707458563535022 https://x.com/VitalikButerin/status/2008174642066845778 https://x.com/dankrad/status/2008466291913265443 45:49 SEC Commissioner Caroline Crenshaw resigned https://x.com/EleanorTerrett/status/2007195935403847868 46:32 Major US retailers are accepting crypto payments https://finance.yahoo.com/news/walmart-starbucks-more-accepting-crypto-202205775.html 48:14 Wyoming launches first US state-issued stablecoin https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/2008958574962028924 50:00 MSCI decided not to exclude DATs from their indexes https://www.msci.com/indexes/index-resources/index-announcements 51:28 Closing & Disclaimers  --- Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures

Brent Johnson returns to Bankless to update the Dollar Milkshake Theory and explain why the de-dollarization narrative misses the bigger trend. He argues markets may want out of the dollar, but the Eurodollar system keeps pulling demand back in, and “dollar down” headlines do not break the framework. Brent also covers how debt stress can spill into political instability, why stablecoins and the GENIUS Act could accelerate re-dollarization, and what this means for monetary sovereignty. We close with China’s counter-strategy and how Brent thinks about positioning from here. --- 📣SPOTIFY PREMIUM RSS FEED | USE CODE: SPOTIFY24 https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium --- 👑BANKLESS PREMIUM | AD-FREE & BONUS EPISODES https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium 🎯THE DEFI REPORT | ONCHAIN INSIGHTS https://bankless.cc/the-defi-report 💰ICO WATCH | UPCOMING PUBLIC TOKEN SALES https://bankless.cc/ico-watch --- TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 1:20 De-Dollarizing vs Re-Dollarizing: Milkshake Recap 4:18 What a Sovereign Debt Crisis Actually Means 5:45 Central Banks as “Professional Can-Kickers” 8:56 Can They Slowly Let the Air Out? 11:03 Can AI Productivity Save the System? 13:06 2025 Setup: The Narrative for Dedollarization 18:06 BRICS: Conference Talk vs Structural Reality 23:37 Store of Value vs Medium of Exchange 34:24 “Crisis = Dollar Up” (and the April Exception) 39:06 Stablecoin Redollarization and the GENIUS Act 47:20 Monetary Sovereignty, Faster Bank Runs, Faster Dollarization 52:34 China’s Response: Two Currency Stacks 54:21 Positioning as an Investor --- RESOURCES Brent Johnson https://x.com/SantiagoAuFund The Dollar Milkshake Theory https://research.santiagocapital.com/p/the-dollar-milkshake --- Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures

Crypto is maturing while attention moves elsewhere. In this Weekly Rollup, David Hoffman and Anthony Sassano break down silver, gold, and the S&P hitting new highs, the Aave civil war over control and fees, Uniswap’s unification win, a new pro crypto CFTC chair, and why quantum computing may be Bitcoin’s biggest long term risk. --- BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 👑BANKLESS PREMIUM | AD-FREE & BONUS EPISODES https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium 🎯THE DEFI REPORT | ONCHAIN INSIGHTS https://bankless.cc/the-defi-report 💰ICO WATCH | UPCOMING PUBLIC TOKEN SALES https://bankless.cc/ico-watch --- TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES 0:00 Intro 1:25 2025 & 2026  6:47 Markets  https://finance.yahoo.com/news/silver-10x-d-p-500-145100823.html https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2003514479649390697 https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/2003611075116433413 https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/2003573927407440012 https://x.com/PeterSchiff/status/2004364997401760040 https://x.com/matthew_sigel/status/2006002866507690243 https://x.com/Cointelegraph/status/2006078375924793591 https://x.com/Mrcryptoxwhale/status/2005388225482031317 16:50 Is Aave in a civil war? https://x.com/obsrvgmi/status/2003089533995471074 https://x.com/aave/status/1996591393817473247 https://governance.aave.com/t/aave-cowswap-integration-tokenholder-questions/23530 https://governance.aave.com/t/arfc-aave-token-alignment-phase-1-ownership/23616 https://x.com/StaniKulechov/status/2002933974969315561 https://snapshot.org/#/s:aavedao.eth/proposal/0xbc606159ddeae0184c2086055637d3f357351ec0adc4c9f4150751bc41918eba https://x.com/Marczeller/status/2004494332359741859 https://x.com/StaniKulechov/status/2004503414705643866 https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/aave 29:55 Uniswap UNIfication  https://x.com/haydenzadams/status/2005306028506923234 https://vote.uniswapfoundation.org/proposals/93 41:36 Michael Selig is the new CFTC Chairman https://x.com/cointelegraph/status/2001834127696249077 https://x.com/MichaelSelig/status/2003090594508214534 https://youtube.com/live/fPdqwebmJzE https://youtube.com/live/yIKRSDhAf4A 48:39 Nic Carter says, Quantum is the biggest risk to Bitcoin https://murmurationstwo.substack.com/p/bitcoin-and-the-quantum-problem-part https://x.com/adam3us/status/2002049157662753197 https://x.com/Pledditor/status/2001896737775194208 https://x.com/Fiskantes/status/2002005763343184156 https://x.com/caprioleio/status/2001990974940274921 https://larryswedroe.substack.com/p/the-quantum-computing-threat-to-financial 1:02:11 Anthony’s 2026 Excitement 1:03:31 Closing & Disclaimers --- Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures

David Hoffman sits down with Mike Ippolito to unpack why 2025 felt brutal despite new all-time highs and why that tension matters for 2026. They argue crypto is entering its “2002 internet” phase, where speculation fades, fundamentals matter, and consolidation accelerates. The conversation covers why Ethereum may see a renaissance, why Bitcoin sentiment could struggle, how prediction markets and equity perps actually play out, and what builders and investors should focus on as crypto matures from hype into real value creation. ------ 📣SPOTIFY PREMIUM RSS FEED | USE CODE: SPOTIFY24  https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium Mike Ippolito https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ https://x.com/MikeIppolito_/status/1870938934337020106 https://blockworks.co/podcast/bellcurve  ------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🔵COINBASE | ETH & BTC BACKED LOANS https://bankless.cc/coinbase-borrow 🪙FRAXNET | MINT, REDEEM, & EARN  https://bankless.cc/fraxnet 🦄UNISWAP | CONTINUOUS CLEARING AUCTIONS  https://bankless.cc/uniswap-cca 🛞MANTLE | GLOBAL HACKATHON 2025 https://bankless.cc/mantle-hackathon 💤EIGHT SLEEP | IMPROVE YOUR SLEEP https://bankless.cc/eight-sleep ------ TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 0:41 Evaluating 2025: The Best Worst Year 7:19 Looking Ahead to 2026 15:40 Investor Relations in Crypto 24:29 Evolving Revenue Discussions 27:44 The Future of DATS 30:06 VC Investment Trends 35:13 Prediction Markets: Incumbents Win 39:52 The Ethereum Renaissance 45:42 The Quantum Threat to Bitcoin 55:06 Consolidation in Blockchain Infrastructure 1:05:07 Corporate Chains: Hot Starts, Cold Ends 1:10:43 Closing & Disclaimers ------ Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures