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在歐洲工作的台灣專業人員、 科技人才、和創業者越來越多，但大家分散在不同國家，很少有一個以科技和產業為核心的平台，把彼此連結起來。另一方面，歐洲越來越重視科技自主與供應鏈韌性，也為台灣帶來新的合作機會。這一集我們邀請到歐洲玉山科技協會創會理事長顏境德。他有汽車工程與太空科技的背景，也創立了一家專注月球開發商業模式的新創公司，同時從協會經營者和科技人的角度，和我們分享他的觀察。我們從他為什麼創立歐洲玉山談起，聊協會如何串連在歐洲的台灣人才、企業與資源；接著看台灣和歐洲可以在哪些產業合作，從半導體到太空；最後也聊到一個台灣還很少人注意的領域：正在成形的月球經濟。本集重點建立跨歐洲的科技專業網絡： 歐洲玉山科技協會為何成立？如何串聯分散在不同國家的台灣科技人才、企業、創業者與研究機構？跨產業與跨世代的交流： 專業社群如何促進產業內交流、跨領域合作，以及不同世代之間的經驗傳承？歐洲太空產業的發展： 德國、法國與義大利在太空產業中各自扮演什麼角色？商業太空與月球探索又帶來哪些新的產業機會？歐洲的科技與產業自主： 為什麼半導體、AI 基礎建設、國防與太空，逐漸成為歐洲重要的戰略發展領域？台灣與歐洲的產業互補： 從半導體、車用與工業晶片，到 AI 硬體、資料中心、記憶體及航空太空製造，雙方有哪些合作空間？從零組件供應商走向系統整合夥伴： 台灣企業如何突破既有的供應鏈角色，進一步提供系統性解決方案，與歐洲產業建立更深層的合作？這場對談不只帶我們認識歐洲科技產業的發展，也讓我們重新思考台灣企業在國際供應鏈中的定位。當歐洲尋求更完整的產業自主能力，台灣的下一步或許不只是持續提升製造效率，而是進一步整合技術、產品與應用，成為能夠共同解決產業問題的合作夥伴。同時，透過像歐洲玉山這樣的專業平台，也能讓分散在歐洲各地的人才、企業與資源建立更多連結。關於來賓顏境德｜歐洲玉山科技協會創會理事長｜Founder of ANASDA  🎧 訂閱《跨義對談》各大平台皆可收聽 → https://open.firstory.me/user/italyxtaiwan/platforms☕️ 一杯咖啡，支持《跨義對談》持續製作更多內容 → https://buymeacoffee.com/italyxtaiwan🤝 Business & Collaboration有合作想法，歡迎與我們聯繫 → [email protected] Powered by Firstory Hosting

What if Taiwan wasn't just a place to visit, but somewhere you could actually live and work remotely?With its excellent digital infrastructure, reliable internet, convenient everyday services, vibrant communities and welcoming lifestyle, Taiwan offers an environment that makes remote working both practical and enjoyable.In this episode of Italy × Taiwan Exchange, Jill speaks with KK (Kai Hsu), Chairperson of the Taiwan Digital Nomad Association (TDNA), to explore what it's really like to live and work remotely in Taiwan.For international professionals, young entrepreneurs, startup founders and location-independent workers, Taiwan could offer an appealing base in Asia — whether you're considering a stay of a few months, exploring new business opportunities, or looking for a place to experience everyday life beyond tourism.KK shares his own journey as a digital nomad, explains what makes a destination suitable for remote workers, and discusses how Taiwan is developing its digital nomad ecosystem and connecting with international communities.In this EpisodeKK's journey from software engineer to digital nomadWhat makes Taiwan a convenient and practical place for remote workingThe five key factors that make a destination digital-nomad-friendlyWhy digital nomads are different from touristsHow Taiwan connects with the wider Asian digital nomad ecosystemWhat international remote workers and entrepreneurs can expect from living in TaiwanThe role of local communities, business networks and personal connectionsWhat Taiwan is doing to attract more international digital nomadsThe opportunities and challenges in positioning Taiwan as a long-stay destination in AsiaAbout our GuestKK (Kai Hsu) is the Chairperson of the Taiwan Digital Nomad Association (TDNA). With a background in software engineering and personal experience working remotely while travelling internationally, he works with local communities, businesses and government partners to make Taiwan a more welcoming destination for digital nomads.Explore MoreTaiwan Digital Nomad Association (TDNA)Learn about the association's initiatives and work to develop Taiwan's digital nomad ecosystem.https://dna.org.tw/en/Nomad Taiwan – Official Digital Nomad Information PortalExplore information and resources for international digital nomads considering Taiwan.https://digitalnomad.ndc.gov.tw/?lang=enTaiwan Digital Nomad VisaFind official information about eligibility and the application process.https://digitalnomad.ndc.gov.tw/visa/🎧 訂閱《跨義對談》各大平台皆可收聽 → https://open.firstory.me/user/italyxtaiwan/platforms☕️ 一杯咖啡，支持《跨義對談》持續製作更多內容 → https://buymeacoffee.com/italyxtaiwan🤝 Business & Collaboration有合作想法，歡迎與我們聯繫 → [email protected] Powered by Firstory Hosting

When people think about investment opportunities in Taiwan, technology giants often come to mind. But beyond the global names lies another part of the economy that deserves more attention: Taiwan’s small and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs).Many of these businesses have built specialized expertise, long-standing customer relationships, and strong positions in global supply chains. Yet for international investors, understanding and accessing this market can be challenging.In this episode, we speak with Annie Huang, founder of Floreo Capital (綻興投資), which is pioneering the search fund model in Taiwan.Together, we explore Taiwan’s SME landscape, the search fund model as a pathway to business ownership and investment, and the opportunities and challenges international investors should understand before entering this market.Key TopicsTaiwan’s SME landscape: key strengths and structural challengesWhy Taiwan’s SMEs may represent overlooked investment opportunitiesThe search fund model and its role in business acquisition and successionWhat makes Taiwan’s market attractive—and challenging—for foreign investorsThe importance of trust, continuity, and long-term business stewardshipWhat international investors should consider when exploring Taiwan’s SME marketFor investors looking beyond Asia’s best-known technology companies, Taiwan’s SMEs offer another perspective on the region’s business potential—one built on established businesses, specialized capabilities, and long-term value creation.About the Guest Annie Huang — Founder of Floreo Capital (綻興投資)Annie Huang is the founder of Floreo Capital, a search fund pioneering this investment model in Taiwan. Through this approach, she focuses on identifying and acquiring businesses with potential for long-term growth.Her work offers an on-the-ground perspective on Taiwan’s SME market, including the opportunities, challenges, and relationships involved in business acquisition and ownership transition.🔗 Connect with Annie HuangLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/msAnniehuangFloreo Capital (綻興投資): https://www.floreocapital.com/🎧 訂閱《跨義對談》各大平台皆可收聽 → https://open.firstory.me/user/italyxtaiwan/platforms☕️ 一杯咖啡，支持《跨義對談》持續製作更多內容 → https://buymeacoffee.com/italyxtaiwan🤝 Business & Collaboration有合作想法，歡迎與我們聯繫 → [email protected] a comment and share your thoughts: https://open.firstory.fm/user/cmm649g1a0qhr01y9acpu2jx7/comments Powered by Firstory Hosting

How to Evaluate Japan, Europe, and Italy for Startup GrowthThis episode follows Mimmo Cangiano Belcuore’s path from industrial design to startups across Italy, London, Tokyo, and now HoloSense. It is especially useful for founders weighing where to build, manufacture, certify, and scale, and for anyone trying to understand how trust, regulation, and culture shape business across Europe and Asia. Mimmo shares how adversity pushed him into entrepreneurship, why Japan made sense at the right economic moment, and how his current startup is splitting R&D in Japan with European deployment. The conversation also digs into what actually matters when entering a new market: not just funding or size, but timing, regulation, talent, and relationship-building.Key topicsMimmo explains how the 2008 financial crisis forced a reinvention from industrial design into teaching, consulting, and startup work in London.He describes moving to Tokyo in 2012, when Japan was rebounding and new business opportunities were opening up.We discuss how arriving in Japan required humility, relearning, and adapting to a different business operating system.Mimmo breaks down HoloSense, a physical AI and computational healthcare startup focused on non-intrusive physiological sensing.He explains why HoloSense is building hardware and AI for medical-grade data, starting with use cases like glucose monitoring for diabetics.We cover why Japan is the R&D and manufacturing base for HoloSense, while Europe is the primary deployment market.Mimmo compares the logic of choosing a market, emphasizing certification scope, market size, talent availability, and production quality.He argues that Japan has a deep but underrated talent pool in engineering, applied science, and hardware development.The conversation goes deep on trust as the real currency of business in Japan, Italy, and increasingly everywhere.Mimmo contrasts business cultures from Italy, the UK, and Japan, highlighting passion and craft, pragmatism and branding, and shared value and long-term trust.We discuss regulation and deregulation, including how Japan has been opening new sectors and why EU Inc. could help Europe create a more unified company structure.Mimmo explains Italy’s role as a manufacturing hub and talent pool, and why entering a market as a buyer can be smarter than entering as a seller.Timestamps(00:00) Why this guest’s Europe-Asia perspective matters(01:18) The 2008 crisis and the move from design into survival mode(02:58) Teaching, consulting, and building a business in London(04:07) Why Tokyo felt like another world(05:55) How humility helped Mimo break into Japan(07:07) Shoe manufacturing roots and a passion project that became business(09:00) Reading the market wave instead of forcing timing(11:04) What HoloSense is building in physical AI(12:26) Why physical-world data is the bottleneck for AI(13:41) Medical-grade sensing, certification, and launch readiness(14:12) Why the team is split between Japan and Switzerland(15:10) Market agnostic vs technology agnostic thinking(16:12) Why Europe makes sense for medical certification(17:15) Japan’s underrated talent pool in hardware and applied science(18:43) Semiconductor revival and Japan as an R&D hub(20:02) Why Europe is the deployment market, not Asia(21:26) Why Asia is fragmented compared with Europe’s single market(23:11) Japan’s cultural operating system and long-term trust(24:39) UK speed vs Japan’s relationship-driven business culture(27:21) Italy, the UK, and Japan as a source of different founder strengths(31:48) Trust as a global business crisis, not just a local trait(34:03) What a business is vs what a startup is(35:57) Why contracts are not a substitute for trust(37:33) Why businesses fade when people lose belief and energy(39:44) The role of vision, harmony, and individual leadership in Japan(41:26) How deregulation has helped Japan unlock new companies(43:45) EU Inc. and the case for a single European company entity(45:53) Why Europe may be the right moment for a startup hyperscaler(47:16) Italy as a manufacturing hub and talent base in Europe(49:04) Why entering a market as a buyer can be smarter than selling first(50:19) Mimo’s mission to encourage more people to build thingsLeave a comment and share your thoughts: https://open.firstory.fm/user/cmm649g1a0qhr01y9acpu2jx7/comments🎧 訂閱《跨義對談》各大平台皆可收聽 → https://open.firstory.me/user/italyxtaiwan/platforms☕️ 一杯咖啡，支持《跨義對談》持續製作更多內容 → https://buymeacoffee.com/italyxtaiwan🤝 Business & Collaboration有合作想法，歡迎與我們聯繫 → [email protected] Powered by Firstory Hosting

掌握台灣與國際間時事的脈動累積出實用的，股票期貨選擇權，操盤技巧每天多學一點，生活好一點邀請你加入股票王的訂閱方案每天盤前盤中，了解最新類股輪動與飆股變化讓你不知不覺，邁向財富自由的道路 https://fstry.pse.is/9lq35r —— 以上為 Firstory Podcast 廣告 —— 對中小企業來說，進入一個新的海外市場，從來不只是「有沒有機會」的問題。當資源有限，一家公司該怎麼判斷哪個市場值得投入？又該在什麼時候進場？這一集《跨義對談》，我們邀請 AIOTEK 智賦科技創辦人暨執行長 Ethan Chen，從他過去參與大型企業國際布局，到現在帶領中小企業拓展海外市場的經驗，聊聊企業進入歐洲之前，真正需要思考的是什麼。本集聊什麼？01:33　從大型企業到創業：過去的經驗如何影響現在的 CEO 角色07:34　選擇海外市場，為什麼不一定先看市場規模？11:58　AIOTEK 如何布局歐洲？從既有客戶與人脈開始15:05　一個小客戶，如何一步步成長為關鍵客戶？19:55　從零組件走向解決方案：轉型真正改變的是什麼？26:14　大企業 vs. 中小企業：進入海外市場的打法有什麼不同？31:09　市場越大越好嗎？如何找到適合自己的利基市場？33:47　中小企業的優勢與陷阱：決策快，但不能只靠直覺35:55　出口不等於國際化：公司真的有能力經營海外市場嗎？38:16　準備進入歐洲：應該先找客戶、夥伴，還是先提升公司能力？本集來賓Ethan Chen｜AIOTEK 智賦科技創辦人暨執行長從電子產業、ODM、工業電腦到企業策略，Ethan 累積超過 20 年產業與國際市場經驗。現在，他正帶領 AIOTEK 從既有核心能力出發，拓展 AI 基礎建設與整體解決方案，並持續布局海外市場。本集由《跨義對談 / Italy × Taiwan Exchange Podcast》製作。Leave a comment and share your thoughts: https://open.firstory.me/user/cmm649g1a0qhr01y9acpu2jx7/comments Powered by Firstory Hosting

從台南沙崙到米蘭設計週：台灣循環住宅的實踐與經驗今年 4 月，由義大利台灣商會主辦的 Casa Taiwan「光之光所」，台糖也帶著「沙崙智慧綠能循環住宅園區」來到米蘭，與國際觀眾向國際介紹這個已經實際落地、有人居住並持續營運的台灣案例。沙崙在台灣可能還不是一個大家熟悉的案例，但從能源、建築、循環建材、智慧管理，到家具設備租賃、社區生活與財務模式，它投入了許多不同面向的 ESG 與循環經濟思考。這集，我邀請台糖四位實際參與沙崙專案的團隊成員，從不同角度分享這個案子一路走來的經驗：陳冠翰｜投資規劃 — 專案願景與整體投資計畫蘇建儒｜設計施工 — 建築設計、建材循環與工程管理黃廷碩｜營運管理 — 居民入住、社區生活與實際營運管理林孟璇｜財務分析 — 投資效益、財務評估與循環價值我們不只是談沙崙做了什麼，也想更深入了解一個這樣的專案，從規劃、設計到實際營運，是如何一步一步走到今天。四位團隊成員從各自的專業角度，分享這個專案在能源、建築、循環建材、智慧管理、社區生活與財務等不同面向的實踐，也談到在實際執行過程中累積的觀察與經驗。這些第一手的經驗，讓我們看到循環住宅不只是一套理念，而是一個需要持續實踐、調整與累積的過程。我們也希望透過這次對談，讓更多台灣人認識沙崙這個可能還不夠被看見的案例，以及台灣在 ESG、永續發展與循環經濟上的長期投入與實踐。如果你喜歡這集的內容，也歡迎分享給對 ESG、永續建築、循環經濟、智慧城市，以及台灣與義大利交流有興趣的朋友。<< 跨義對談聽眾優惠 >>本集為回饋跨義對談聽眾，我們與米蘭台北街頭餐廳合作，提供中秋節預購免運費優惠方案：〖 中秋節優惠方案 蛋黃酥三粒一盒 〗〖 鳳梨酥與鳳凰酥五粒一盒 〗每盒都是 10 歐元寄送服務：【 鳳梨酥跟鳳凰酥可以提供米蘭之外，滿 80 元以上免運費 】【 蛋黃酥只提供米蘭內自取或配送，米蘭大都會內 50 元以上免運費 】下單方式：直接「 撥打電話 」訂購： +39 351 885 5535本活動將於 9 月 10 號收單。記得提供「跨義對談」聽眾折扣碼「 IxTMOON」，可享免運費優惠！想認識更多台義之間的人與機會？訂閱《跨義對談》，一起探索台灣與義大利之間正在發生的商業、產業與跨文化交流。如果你身邊也有值得被聽見的故事，歡迎推薦給我們。歡迎透過以下連結留言分享你的想法！ https://open.firstory.me/user/cmm649g1a0qhr01y9acpu2jx7/comments Powered by Firstory Hosting

📌 Episode SummaryIn this episode of Italy × Taiwan Exchange, we speak with Mimi Chien, Co-Founder and Chief Sustainability Officer of MacroHI, the Taiwanese company behind AROMASE and JuliArt.AROMASE takes a scalp-first approach to professional haircare, developed over more than 20 years across consumer haircare, professional salon care, pharmacy, and treatment channels. With international markets including the U.S., Japan, Germany, and Poland, the company has built its experience by adapting its approach across different market and distribution systems.💡In this conversation, we explore:• Why AROMASE chose to focus on scalp concerns rather than positioning itself simply as a shampoo or haircare brand• How scalp-focused and functional haircare developed differently in Asia,and Europe• What salons and professional channels need when introducing treatment-oriented services• What Asian beauty brands often underestimate when entering European markets• Why AROMASE looks for strategic partners rather than simply distributors• How the company supports international partners with education, training, marketing resources, and its accumulated market experience• What B Corp means in practice — and how the company balances its operational commitments with commercial realities• What makes a long-term international partnership workRather than looking at Taiwan as simply another source of beauty products, this conversation offers a closer look at one Taiwanese company’s approach to professional care, international partnerships, and long-term brand building.⏱️ Bonus for Our ListenersPre-order Offer — Listener Discount Code: “IxTMOON”🌕 Mid-Autumn Festival Special at Le Vie di Taipei, MilanEgg Yolk Mooncakes3 pieces per box€10 per boxPineapple Cakes & Phoenix Cakes5 pieces per box€10 per box📦 Delivery & PickupPineapple Cakes & Phoenix Cakes: Delivery available outside Milan. Free delivery for orders of €80 or more.Egg Yolk Mooncakes: Available for pickup or delivery within Milan only. Free delivery within the Milan metropolitan area for orders of €50 or more.📞 How to OrderTo place your order, call +39 351 885 5535 and mention the listener discount code “IxTMOON.”🔗  Connect＆Follow Us 追蹤與關注我們：Subscribe【 Italy X Taiwan Exchange 】for more insights on cross-border business and brand strategies.Leave us a 5-star review on comments to share your thoughts on this episode!訂閱《跨義對談》收聽更多台義跨國商業、品牌經營與文化交流節目歡迎在 Spotify 給予我們 5 星好評，並留言告訴我們你對這一集的想法！Leave a comment and share your thoughts: https://open.firstory.me/user/cmm649g1a0qhr01y9acpu2jx7/comments#ItalyTaiwanExchange #AROMASE #juliArt #MArcoHI #scalpcare #跨義對談 #艾瑪絲 #美科實業 #頭皮護理 #品牌出海 #歐洲市場 #ESG #B型企業 #永續商業 Powered by Firstory Hosting

這集《跨義對談》我們從餐飲教育出發，談的其實不是料理，而是——當學生走進不同文化與工作環境後，他們如何被重新塑造。本集邀請到國立高雄餐旅大學餐飲廚藝學院院長——陳紫玲教授。高餐大在 QS 世界大學「餐旅與休閒管理」領域排名全球第 23 名、亞洲前三，長期透過國際實習與海外合作，培養許多進入國際餐飲產業的人才。這一集，我們聊到：高餐大如何與義大利 ICIF 廚藝學校及米其林餐廳合作學生進入義大利、法國、日本等不同文化後，最大的改變是什麼為什麼國際交流真正改變的，往往不是技術，而是人的態度與視野義大利、法國、日本不同餐飲文化背後的價值觀與工作邏輯台灣學生在國際環境中的優勢與特質台灣是否有機會成為國際餐飲教育與人才交流的重要節點很喜歡陳院長在節目中提到的一句話：「餐飲教育已經不只是技術訓練，而是一種跨文化、跨產業的整合型專業。」很多時候，我們談國際交流，會停留在「去了哪裡、學了什麼」。但這集更難得的是，我們從一位長期站在教育第一線的觀察者角度，看見這些經驗如何真正影響學生的人生選擇、工作態度，以及看待世界的方式。如果你對以下主題有興趣：國際教育與人才流動台灣與義大利的交流餐飲與服務產業的國際化年輕世代的跨文化學習台灣如何建立自己的國際競爭力我想你會很喜歡這一集。Leave a comment and share your thoughts: https://open.firstory.me/user/cmm649g1a0qhr01y9acpu2jx7/comments Powered by Firstory Hosting

本集邀請到在義大利深耕 30 年、曾任義大利台灣商會會長，現任 歐博興國際展覽公司（O.P.C International Exhibitions Co.) 董事長的 賴天福（Jeff Lai）。賴大哥將與我們分享他協助台灣與亞洲廠商進入義大利展覽圈的實戰經驗。為什麼義大利展覽如此重視「設計」？為什麼絕對不要直接把樣品寄到展場？如果您是想進軍歐洲市場的中小企業主、品牌創業者，或是對跨文化商業經營感興趣的專業人士，這集節目將為您提供最真實的「展場生存指南」。本集重點🎧設計力即競爭力： 剖析義大利在眼鏡、家具、摩托車展覽的全球霸主地位。🎧防偽戰爭 (Anti-contraffazione)： 如何透過事前審核與現場執法，保護參展團體的專業形象。🎧展場心理學： 亞洲館 vs. 歐美館的區隔邏輯，以及攤位位置如何影響商業位階。🎧物流卡關大弊病： 揭露為何國際快遞（DHL/UPS）往往送不到義大利展位，以及專業物流的重要性。🎧給參展者的金句： 「參展是為了告訴全世界：我還在。」——建立信任，從露面開始。📌相關連結歐博興國際展覽有限公司：https://opcexpo.com/ Powered by Firstory Hosting

🎙️ 本集介紹 近幾年，「永續」已經不再只是企業形象的加分項目，而是台灣企業進入歐洲市場時，必須正面面對的一道門檻。 只要你的客戶在歐盟、你的產品進入歐洲供應鏈，ESG 的要求，就會直接影響你的訂單、合作機會，甚至是你是否被納入供應鏈體系。 在這一集，我們邀請到現任荷蘭台灣商會會長，同時也是 ESG 永續顧問的陳伯陽（Bryan），從實務經驗出發，帶我們理解： 台灣企業在進入歐洲市場時，最常忽略的永續關鍵 歐洲企業在評估供應商時，真正關心的是什麼 ESG 如何從「成本」轉變為「競爭力」 為什麼歐盟法規，會透過供應鏈影響全球企業 Powered by Firstory Hosting