252. The Bachelorette's Boldest Move Yet: Taylor Frankie Paul Takes the Lead

This week, Jason is joined by radio personality, author, TV host, and all around trailblazer, Bobby Bones! Bobby rose to national fame with the Bobby Bones Show, a nationally syndicated radio show that redefined country radio and became a staple for millions of listeners across the US. He’s a two time New York Times bestselling author, a Dancing With the Stars Champion, and beloved mentor on American Idol. But Bobby’s story isn’t just about success, it’s about grit, resilience, and staying true to your roots while chasing something bigger.  Bobby opens up about how his upbringing shaped his perspective and became a strength in his career, the resilience that helps him cut through the noise, and why he decided to build his own syndication company with his own money. He shares the story behind the infamous “Go Away Bobby Bones” billboards, the “illegal” training he did to sharpen his moves for Dancing With the Stars, and what proving value really means to him. Bobby also breaks down the benefits of long-form content over TV for career longevity, why he was scared of debt even after making his first million at 30, and the key differences between radio and podcasting. From the importance of owning your IP, to why he considers Taylor Swift a genius, to the artists and interviews that stand out most in his career—Bobby doesn’t hold back. Plus, he reveals who makes it onto his personal Mount Rushmore and gives a rare glimpse into his personal life. Bobby reveals all this and so much more in another episode you can’t afford to miss! Host: Jason Tartick Co-Host: David Arduin Audio: John Gurney Guest:Bobby Bones Stay connected with the Trading Secrets Podcast!  Instagram: @tradingsecretspodcast  Youtube: Trading Secrets Facebook: Join the Group All Access: Free 30-Day Trial  Trading Secrets Steals & Deals! Boll & Branch: Feel the difference an extraordinary night’s sleep can make with Boll & Branch. Get 15% off plus free shipping on your first set of sheets at BollAndBranch.com/tradingsecrets *Exclusions apply. Nutrafol: See thicker, stronger, faster-growing hair with less shedding in just 3-6 months with Nutrafol. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering $10-off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code TRADINGSECRETS. Trova Trip: If you've been pushing that dream trip down the road, here's your shortcut. Head to trovatrip.com and use code TRADINGSECRETS for $100 off your first trip. UpWork: Posting a job on Upwork is easy; with no cost to join, you can register, browse freelancer profiles, get help drafting a job post, or even book a consultation. Visit Upwork.com right now and post your job for free. YouTube Title: Needs to be 100 characters or less  | Trading Secrets w/ Jason Tartick

Jason Tartick, Kelley Flannigan, and Jason's sidekick David Arduin (aka The Curious Canadian) dive into the biggest shake-up Bachelor Nation has seen in years — the casting of Taylor Frankie Paul as the next Bachelorette. From her controversial background to her massive social media following, we break down why ABC made this bold decision, how fans might react, and what it could mean for the future of ratings across The Bachelor franchise. Is this the risk the show needs to stay alive, or a move that could backfire? Tune in for insider takes, business analysis, and fan perspective on the franchise's most dramatic pivot yet.

This week, Jason is joined by reality TV star and commercial pilot, Rachel Recchia! Rachel first captured America’s attention on The Bachelor before becoming one of the co-leads of The Bachelorette Season 19, where she navigated love, heartbreak, and the spotlight in front of millions of viewers. She later returned to Bachelor in Paradise, further cementing her place as a fan favorite in Bachelor Nation, but Rachel’s story goes far beyond reality TV. She is a licensed pilot, a career she’s pursued well before the cameras. Rachel pulls back the curtain on her journey through two very different corners of reality TV—The Bachelor franchise and Netflix’s Perfect Match—and explains what ultimately led her to say yes to Perfect Match. She dives into her true passion outside of television: aviation. From working as a flight instructor to breaking down the costly path of pilot training, Rachel shares her long-term goals in the cockpit, the different licenses she’s earned, and how quickly she returned to work after her season of The Bachelorette. She opens up about how the men from her season impacted her mental health, the challenge of balancing a career in aviation with the world of social media, and why she doesn’t see herself as an “influencer.” Rachel also compares reality TV audiences, reveals why she’ll never return to The Bachelor franchise, and gets candid about dating after reality TV. The episode wraps with a rapid-fire money segment that offers an honest look at life beyond the spotlight. Rachel reveals all this and so much more in another episode you can’t afford to miss! Host: Jason Tartick Co-Host: David Arduin Audio: John Gurney Guest:Rachel Recchia Stay connected with the Trading Secrets Podcast!  Instagram: @tradingsecretspodcast  Youtube: Trading Secrets Facebook: Join the Group All Access: Free 30-Day Trial  Trading Secrets Steals & Deals! Quince: Elevate your fall wardrobe essentials with Quince. Go to Quince.com/tradingsecrets for free shipping on your order and three hundred and sixty-five -day returns. Indeed:  There's no need to wait any longer-speed up your hiring right now with Indeed. For a $75 SPONSORED JOB CREDIT to get your jobs more visibility head to Indeed.com/SECRETS.

This week, Jason is joined by content creator couple who turned into social media stars, Chicklet and Maleni! After meeting at a friend’s party over ten years ago, Chicklet and Maleni had instant chemistry and it was their sense of humor that eventually brought them together, not only as a couple, but an internet comedy duo. Achieving a level of fame and recognition was not necessarily an objective for the budding comedians who stood out with their short videos, however, with over 7 million combined followers across their social media accounts, their love for each other and comedy turned into a story that people wanted to follow.  Maleni and Chicklet open up about the professional paths they once imagined for themselves and how those plans shifted as content creation took center stage. Chicklet shares how he got his start while working at Parks and Rec before taking the leap into full-time content, while Maleni reflects on her early career with a dance company. They break down the moment they realized real money could be made on social media, which videos first went viral, and their experience with Streaming University. The two also dive into the biggest challenges of working together, their journey with sobriety, and how they’ve built security in their relationship, their finances, and their mutual support system. Chicklet and Maleni reveal all this and so much more in another episode you can’t afford to miss! Host: Jason Tartick Co-Host: David Arduin Audio: John Gurney Guest:Chicklet + Maleni Stay connected with the Trading Secrets Podcast!  Instagram: @tradingsecretspodcast  Youtube: Trading Secrets Facebook: Join the Group All Access: Free 30-Day Trial  Trading Secrets Steals & Deals! OneSkin: OneSkin is the world's first skin longevity company-targeting cellular aging to keep your skin and scalp looking and acting younger for longer. For a limited time, you can try OneSkin with 15% off using code [TRADINGSECRETS] at oneskin.co  Square:  If you're starting a business, or running one that deserves better tools, Square helps you sell, manage, and grow without slowing down. Right now, you can get up to $200 off Square hardware at square.com/go/tradingsecrets  Upwork: Posting a job on Upwork is easy; with no cost to join, you can register, browse freelancer profiles, get help drafting a job post, or even book a consultation. Visit Upwork.com right now and post your job for free and connect with top talent ready to help your business grow. Yubico: Yubico’s mission is simple: make the internet safer for everyone. Their breakthrough product, the YubiKey, is a small but powerful hardware key that protects your online accounts from phishing and hacks with just one tap. Trusted by millions, YubiKeys work across hundreds of services, from email and social media to banking, without the hassle of codes or passwords. Go to www.yubico.com/start to learn how to activate and set up your key.

This week, Jason is joined by Love Island season 7 breakout star, Olandria Carthen! Known widely as the Bama Barbie, Olandria played the long game in the villa and emerged as a fan favorite for her strength, poise, and genuine approach, not just in romance but in life. She is also killing it in the corporate career as well working at Otis Elevator Co. She is proof that brains and business acumen, and truth to herself can lead to a breakthrough reality TV star. Post-show, Olandria is balancing the corporate grind with modeling, brand partnerships, and living out her personal brand rooted in southern authenticity.  Olandria opens up about the uncertainty of how she’d be perceived by viewers, the misconceptions she wants to clear up, and the most surprising parts of watching the show back. She reflects on growing up as the oldest of six with a single mom, knowing modeling was always a dream, and the journey that led her to Love Island. She shares how she prioritized building a genuine connection, what her personal and professional plans look like moving forward, and why she’s staying open to different career paths. Olandria also gets candid about her relationship with money, the way Nic makes sure she has equal opportunities, and the support she’s found in her friendship with Chelley. She talks about how church keeps her grounded, her passion for community work, what she wishes she had done differently on the show, and how she manages her mental health while navigating a new reality. Olandria reveals all this and so much more in another episode you can’t afford to miss! Host: Jason Tartick Co-Host: David Arduin Audio: John Gurney Guest:Olandria Carthen Stay connected with the Trading Secrets Podcast!  Instagram: @tradingsecretspodcast  Youtube: Trading Secrets Facebook: Join the Group All Access: Free 30-Day Trial  Trading Secrets Steals & Deals! Leesa:  Leesa mattresses are meticulously designed and assembled in the U.S.A. for exceptional quality - plus they back it all up with free shipping, easy returns, and a 100-night sleep trial. Go to Leesa.com for  an extra $50 off with promo code TRADINGSECRETS Upwork: Posting a job on Upwork is easy; with no cost to join, you can register, browse freelancer profiles, get help drafting a job post, or even book a consultation. Visit Upwork.com right now and post your job for free. Nutrafol: See thicker, stronger, faster-growing hair with less shedding in just 3-6 months with Nutrafol. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code “TRADINGSECRETS”

This week, Jason is joined by Bachelor Nation’s Juliana Pasquarosa! Juliana opens up about life before The Bachelor - from leaving her broker dealer role just before filming to starting fresh at a wealth management and financial planning firm. She shares the reservations she had about joining the show, what surprised her most, and how she navigated relationships with fellow contestants after the breakup. Juliana reveals who nominated her for the show, the lessons she’s taken from balancing her 9-to-5 with the mental and professional realities of social media and reality TV, and the struggles she faced post-breakup, including where things currently stand with Grant. Beyond TV, Juliana discusses her goals for Nice Girls Label, the fashion brand she co-founded and self-funded with her sister, and what drives her to feel secure in every aspect of her life—personally, financially, and emotionally. She also shares her outlook on love and money, the future she envisions for herself, and which other reality shows she’d consider. Plus, a special guest appearance by Tyler Cameron rounds out the episode. Juliana reveals all this and so much more in another episode you can’t afford to miss! Host: Jason Tartick Co-Host: David Arduin Audio: John Gurney Guest: Juliana Pasquarosa Stay connected with the Trading Secrets Podcast!  Instagram: @tradingsecretspodcast  Youtube: Trading Secrets Facebook: Join the Group All Access: Free 30-Day Trial  Trading Secrets Steals & Deals! Indeed: Indeed Sponsored Jobs there are no monthly subscriptions, no long-term contracts, and you only pay for results. There's no need to wait any longer-speed up your hiring right now with Indeed. For a $75 SPONSORED JOB CREDIT to get your jobs more visibility at Indeed.com/SECRETS Square: With Square, you get all the tools to run your business, with none of the contracts or complexity. And why wait? Right now, you can get up to $200 off Square hardware at square.com/go/tradingsecrets Nutrafol: See thicker, stronger, faster-growing hair with less shedding in just 3-6 months with Nutrafol. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code “TRADINGSECRETS”

This week, Jason is joined by entrepreneur, podcast host, and star of MTV’s Siesta Key, Juliette Porter! Juliette came to recognition in 20217 after being cast as a main personality on MTV’s hit reality TV show, following a group of friends in Siesta Key, Florida. In addition to being on reality TV, Juliette has expanded her career endeavors by getting into the retail and podcast space. Juliette co-founded a designer swimwear and apparel brand focused on natural beauty and body positivity called JMP the Label, which she has helped grow since 2021. She started her podcast with her friend Sebastian called Don’t Be Ridiculous where she co-hosts on a weekly basis. Juliette takes us behind the scenes of her whirlwind journey — from filming the Siesta Key pilot at just 17, to shifting her career path when the show was picked up. She opens up about the year-over-year changes in reality TV income, how she negotiated her narration fee into the six figures, and the personal, financial, and professional struggles she’s faced along the way. Juliette gets candid about her spending habits, navigating imposter syndrome, and the business hustle behind JMP The Label — from its standout moments at Swim Week to making millions in just the first few years. She shares which celebrities have worn her swimsuits, why she’s determined to do more than just reality TV, and her vision for what’s next. Juliette reveals all this and so much more in another episode you can’t afford to miss! Host: Jason Tartick Co-Host: David Arduin Audio: John Gurney Guest: Juliette Porter +  jmpthelabel.com Stay connected with the Trading Secrets Podcast!  Instagram: @tradingsecretspodcast  Youtube: Trading Secrets Facebook: Join the Group All Access: Free 30-Day Trial  Trading Secrets Steals & Deals! Boll & Branch: Feel the difference an extraordinary night’s sleep can make with Boll & Branch. Get 15% off plus free shipping on your first set of sheets at BollAndBranch.com/tradingsecrets Square: With Square, you get all the tools to run your business, with none of the contracts or complexity. And why wait? Right now, you can get up to $200 off Square hardware at square.com/go/tradingsecrets Nutrafol: See thicker, stronger, faster-growing hair with less shedding in just 3-6 months with Nutrafol. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code “TRADINGSECRETS” Cymbiotika

This week, Jason is joined by Bachelor Nation fan favorite and content creator, Rachael Kirkconnell! Rachael gained recognition from her time on season 25 of The Bachelor back in 2021 after earning Matt James’ final rose. After a few years together, the couple announced that they were going their separate ways this past January. Since then, Rachael has focused her efforts on  Rachael opens up about growing her personal brand while pivoting into a variety of professional paths. She reflects on the impact of her appearance on Call Her Daddy following a highly publicized breakup, how she processed sharing such a personal moment publicly, and the advice she has for women navigating heartbreak. Rachael also shares why she has no regrets, how her career has evolved over the past year, and what it means to truly support a partner’s ambitions. She dives into her thoughts on AI, whether she’d start her own podcast, and if reality TV—or reality dating shows—are still on her radar. From age-gap relationships and her passion for animation, to her future goals and financial aspirations, Rachael gets candid about her journey, staying authentic, and what’s next. Rachael reveals all this and so much more in another episode you can’t afford to miss! Host: Jason Tartick Co-Host: David Arduin Audio: John Gurney Guest: Rachael Kirkconnell Stay connected with the Trading Secrets Podcast!  Instagram: @tradingsecretspodcast  Youtube: Trading Secrets Facebook: Join the Group All Access: Free 30-Day Trial  Trading Secrets Steals & Deals! Leesa: Leesa isn't just about sleep - it's about impact. They donate thousands of mattresses each year to those in need, while also partnering with organizations like CleanHub to help remove harmful plastic waste from our oceans. Go to Leesa.com for an extra $50 off with promo code TRADINGSECRETS Rula:  The first step on your journey to mental-well being is easy. Rula starts by asking you a few questions about what's important to you and then provides a list of licensed in-network providers who match your preferences. You can schedule your preferred time and meet with your therapist as soon as the next day. Go to Rula.com/tradingsecrets  to get started today.  IDEO U:  Ever feel overwhelmed by all the Al hype? You know it's important, but you're struggling with how to use it in your day-to-day work. IDEO U's Al & Design Thinking programs are designed for leaders like you—people who want to stay ahead but keep problem-solving human-centered. It's practical, hands-on, and built for real-world impact. Go to IDEOU.com/TRADINGSECRETS for 15% off sitewide Quince: Quince nails it with luxe essentials that feel effortless and look polished-perfect for layering and mixing. Their styles are so versatile, I find myself reaching for them again and again. Elevate your fall wardrobe essentials with Quince. Go to Quince.com/tradingsecrets for free shipping on your order and three hundred and sixty-five -day returns. Upwork: Posting a job on Upwork is easy; with no cost to join, you can register, browse freelancer profiles, get help drafting a job post, or even book a consultation. From there, you connect with freelancers that get you, and can easily hire them to take your business to the next level. Upwork makes the entire process easier, simpler, and more affordable, with industry low fees. Post a job today, and hire tomorrow, with Upwork. Visit Upwork.com right now and post your job for free.

This week, Jason is joined by a serial entrepreneur who has built four of the most successful environmental service businesses in North America, David Royce! David is the founder and chairman of Aptive Environmental providing pest solutions to thousands of cities in 34 states. David’s companies have been highlighted in national publications, including The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, Fortune, Entrepreneur, and Inc. Magazine. In 2015, David was awarded the Earnest Young National Entrepreneur of the Year award.  David shares his journey from knocking on doors as a pest control salesman to becoming Rookie of the Year by mastering sales through relentless study. He breaks down the art of closing deals, why perfecting your pitch is everything, and how taking initiative—like creating a training manual—helped him dramatically increase his earnings summer after summer. David also dives into why “unsexy” jobs are underrated, how he nearly bankrupted his business before scaling it nationally, and the ways Tony Hsieh of Zappos influenced his approach to company culture. He opens up about his biggest career mistake, the importance of mastering sales as a lifelong skill, how to manage newfound wealth, what he looks for (and avoids) when hiring, and what’s next on his entrepreneurial journey. Plus, he shares his best advice for anyone looking to build a successful business from the ground up. David reveals all this and so much more in another episode you can’t afford to miss! Host: Jason Tartick Co-Host: David Arduin Audio: John Gurney Guest: David Royce Stay connected with the Trading Secrets Podcast!  Instagram: @tradingsecretspodcast  Youtube: Trading Secrets Facebook: Join the Group All Access: Free 30-Day Trial  Trading Secrets Steals & Deals! ROK Financial: Business owners-when opportunity knocks, do you have the capital to answer? ROK Financial, helps small businesses access up to $5 million in funding—in as little as 24 hours. Whether you're expanding, upgrading equipment, or simply need working capital, ROK makes the process fast, simple, and personalized. Visit ROK.biz/tradingsecrets to get started and see what your business may qualify for in seconds. Square:  Whether you're selling lattes, cutting hair, detailing cars, or running a design studio, Square helps you run your business, without running yourself into the ground. With Square, you get all the tools to run your business, with none of the contracts or complexity. And why wait? Right now, you can get up to $200 off Square hardware at square.com/go/tradingsecrets. Nutrafol:  Start your hair growth journey with Nutrafol. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code TRADINGSECRETS. Rula: The first step on your journey to mental-well being is easy. Rula starts by asking you a few questions about what's important to you and then provides a list of licensed in-network providers who match your preferences. You can schedule your preferred time and meet with your therapist as soon as the next day. Go to Rula.com/ [tradingsecrets] to get started today. This Is Small Business Podcast: if you're the kind of person who's always chasing growth — whether it's in business, career, or just betting on yourself — There's a podcast that just dropped a new season and it's right in that zone. It's called This Is Small Business, hosted by Andrea Marquez, and Season 6 is all about entrepreneurs who took massive risks to build something real. So if you're plotting your next move - maybe launching that side hustle, scaling a business, or pivoting hard - go check out This Is Small Business on Apple Podcasts, Spotify — wherever you listen.

This week, Jason is joined by entrepreneur, artist, and reality TV personality, known for his appearances on ABC’s The Bachelorette and Bachelor in Paradise, the one and only, Justin Glaze! Justin has joined us on Trading Secrets a couple of times, detailing his career in corporate America and as a freelance artist in addition to his experience being a part of Bachelor Nation. Since Justin has been on the podcast last, a lot has changed. He officially launched his canned espresso martini company called Love Potion, and decided to jump back into the reality dating pool by joining the season 10 cast of Bachelor in Paradise.  Justin opens up about how his quest to find the perfect espresso martini led to discovering the secret ingredient that sets his canned creation apart. He shares why he decided to return to Bachelor in Paradise, how talent rates have shifted this season, and why transparency played a key role in his decision to step back into reality TV. Justin talks about taking calculated risks, his true intentions heading back to the beach, and navigating his relationship with Susie—from best friends to dating to a post-breakup. He also discusses his connection with Lexi, the truth behind THAT rose ceremony, where things stand between them now, and answers rapid-fire questions about BIP. Plus, Justin reveals how Love Potion got its name, the money and time that went into building his company, what it took to find a distributor, and his current relationship status. Justin reveals all this and so much more in another episode you can’t afford to miss! Host: Jason Tartick Co-Host: David Arduin Audio: John Gurney Guest: Justin Glaze + drinklovepotion.com  Stay connected with the Trading Secrets Podcast!  Instagram: @tradingsecretspodcast  Youtube: Trading Secrets Facebook: Join the Group All Access: Free 30-Day Trial  Trading Secrets Steals & Deals! ROK Financial: Business owners-when opportunity knocks, do you have the capital to answer? ROK Financial, helps small businesses access up to $5 million in funding—in as little as 24 hours. Whether you're expanding, upgrading equipment, or simply need working capital, ROK makes the process fast, simple, and personalized. Visit ROK.biz/tradingsecrets to get started and see what your business may qualify for in seconds. Square:  Whether you're selling lattes, cutting hair, detailing cars, or running a design studio, Square helps you run your business, without running yourself into the ground. With Square, you get all the tools to run your business, with none of the contracts or complexity. And why wait? Right now, you can get up to $200 off Square hardware at square.com/go/tradingsecrets. OpenPhone: OpenPhone is the #1 business phone system that streamlines and scales your customer communication. It works through an app on your phone or computer, so no more carrying two phones or using a landland. Whether you’re a one-person operation or have a large team, OpenPhone is a no-brainer. For 20% off your first 6 months, head to OpenPhone.com/tradingsecrets Indeed: Indeed Sponsored Jobs there are no monthly subscriptions, no long-term contracts, and you only pay for results. There's no need to wait any longer-speed up your hiring right now with Indeed. For a $75 SPONSORED JOB CREDIT to get your jobs more visibility at Indeed.com/SECRETS