To That Point podcast

How to pivot into (or out of) product management

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The Burn it Down series intends to demystify the illusions of popular freelance and corporate careers. We phoned up friends who’ve made impressive career pivots to learn more about why they did it & how they made it happen... and convinced them to give us the FULL picture - the good, the bad & the ugly.  

Will Davis is a product manager, entrepreneur, and soon-to-be software engineer. Will started his career in mechanical engineering and made his first career pivot when he left his job at General Motors to get a masters at Cornell Tech. He landed a product management job out of school and went to work at prominent tech companies, including WW and Thirty Madison. After spending a few years in the industry, Will decided to quit his PM job and accept a spot in On Deck’s No Code fellowship to develop some of his side projects with a broader community of techies. In today's episode, Will gives us his unfiltered thoughts as he leaves PM to pursue software engineering. 

Follow  Will's #buildinpublic  journey on Twitter at @_willdavis_

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🎧  To That Point is recorded and produced by Jasmin Escher and Montana Blair. Huge thanks to Levi Barrie for the audio engineering and editing on today’s episode.

Otros episodios de "To That Point"

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    09_Director's Cut Two

    7:30

    Ensemble reimagines the places we visit and the people we interact with through the lens of performance, and reflects on what it means to "perform." In the second Director's cut, Jasmin summarizes the key learnings from both the production and analysis sides of Ensemble and what we expect to come in the post-COVID renaissance based on our research.  💭 Provocations: How and when do we perform in everyday life? When do cultural conversations take place on stage? When are they successful, and when are they not? What's next for New York City? What role do I want to play, and do I need to pivot?  📸 Shoot us a DM on Instagram @tothatpoint with any thought, feelings, or ideas you want to share after listening.  🎧 To That Point is recorded and produced by Jasmin Escher and Montana Blair. Audio engineering for this season is by Levi Barrie.
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    08_Finale

    9:30

    Throughout this project, we learned about the stages we exist on - and what that means for the ways people think, how they behave, and what they are collectively imagine will be the next era of New York City. One of the most special moments of the human experience is coming together to create ephemeral experiences. In the last episode of Ensemble, we reflect on our time studying New York's revival and its relation to performing art, and discuss the enduring signals that point to what may be coming next. 💭 Provocations: What has COVID showed us about the human experience? What is so special about us being together? How can work / life and creativity co-exist in our lives? How we will put on "tech" as we design, direct, and produce our post-COVID lives? 📸 Head to our Instagram @tothatpoint for accompanying visuals showcasing the characters and venues we visited along the way. 🎧 To That Point is recorded and produced by Jasmin Escher and Montana Blair. Audio engineering for this season is by Levi Barrie. Featured guests include Malcom Moon, Alessandra Rey, Dupe Ajayi, and Emile Gerard.
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    07_Brooklyn

    14:51

    The last stop is our favorite borough, Brooklyn (yes.. Jasmin is biased).  We set out to study human interaction in various tableaus that feel more personal and intimate, like your favorite neighborhood bar or a casual rooftop kickback with friends.The pandemic forced us to find new ways to connect and socialize - often through technology. As we chat through how we're feeling socializing in person again, we also acknowledge the impact of social media and digital stages. Artists had to adapt their craft to virtual stages and learn new ways to engage an audience. After spending two years connecting with friends via Instagram and Facetime calls, Montana recalls the first IRL performance she attended this summer and how anxious it felt to be around strangers. As the flood gates open further, we reflect on the challenges we've experienced as we emerge from lockdown.. and the need for more vulnerable conversation that will allow us to critically acknowledge that we are forever changed.  💭Provocations: As you emerge from lockdown, what parts of your persona are you leaning into? Are you coming back any differently than before? What did you  learn about yourself during the pandemic that you are carrying forward with you into the renaissance?  📸 Head to our Instagram @tothatpoint to see accompanying visuals for this episode 🎧 To That Point is recorded and produced by Jasmin Escher and Montana Blair. Audio engineering by Levi Barrie. Featured guests this episode include Smoove Irie, Shay They, Soheyla Escher, and Wis Escher.
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    06_East Side

    12:30

    Arguably one of the most magical and ephemeral forms of performance art in New York City is street performance.. from buskers at subway stations, to jazz bands at city parks, and even well-dressed fashionistas on Broadway.  With venues closed during the pandemic, city streets became a common ground for any kind of artistry. As restrictions lifted many of these performances persisted, offering an optimistic accompaniment to the city's reopening.  💭 Provocations: Challenge yourself to take a walk around the city without headphones in - what do you hear, and how does it make you feel? What effort do you put into the clothes you wear? When do you crave attention, and when do you want to be more of a fly on the wall? 📸 Head to our Instagram @tothatpoint to see accompanying visuals for this episode  🎧 To That Point is recorded and produced by Jasmin Escher and Montana Blair. Audio engineering by Levi Barrie. Featured guests this episode include Shorty, Dimitri Santaella, and Wis Escher
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    05_Downtown

    17:34

    Anyone who's spent a night out in New York knows that the real pulse of the city is found on a different kind of stage: the dance floor. Yes, we heavily leaned into this episode during our research... and we absolutely whipped out our field mics at Paul's Casablanca.  As the city reopened, we couldn't wait to get back to our fav nightlife stapes. We made our way through downtown Manhattan, seeking out caricatures of what performance might look like outside the theatre. Cocktails and film camera in hand, we observed the cool kids make their grand re-entrance into society... from exclusive lounges to candle lit dinners.  💭 Provocations: How do you get ready for a night out? What costumes make you feel the most confident? What scripts do you adhere to? What stages do you frequent, and why?  📸 Head to our Instagram @tothatpoint to see accompanying visuals for this episode  🎧 To That Point is recorded and produced by Jasmin Escher and Montana Blair. Audio engineering by Levi Barrie. Featured guests this episode include Emile Gerard.
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    04_Chelsea

    20:24

    We head west and travel along the High Line to visit new institutions who are reinventing what performance looks like in the 21st century. We stop by The Shed in Hudson Yards to meet with Dupe Ajayi, Senior Strategist in charge of Intersectional Marketing & Partnerships. Dupe shares more about her role, what it means to be a New York institution, and how recent cultural movements are challenging the performing arts industry to be more accessible and welcoming to intersectional audiences.  As we learn more about how performance can be reinterpreted, the lines between stage and audience continue to blur. Tucked away between art galleries in Chelsea is the pseudo-hotel theatrical venue under the name The Mckittrick, better known for its immersive show Sleep No More. The interactive production fosters a new experience for audiences and artists alike, leaving audiences puzzled and questioning the notion of what a "stage" is. As we continue to break the traditions that separate art forms and audiences, we recognize how this dynamic might present itself beyond the theatre... in real life settings like restaurants, parties and dance floors.  💭 Provocations: What's thrilling about breaking the wall between audience and performer? What's scary about it? How might the arts help us gain a new perspective on important cultural conversations like diversity & inclusion? What is the purpose of a "stage"? What do you expect out of a night at the theatre?  📸 Head to our Instagram @tothatpoint to see accompanying visuals for this episode  🎧 To That Point is recorded and produced by Jasmin Escher and Montana Blair. Audio engineering by Levi Barrie. Featured guests include Dupe Ajayi.
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    03_Midtown

    17:28

    Our next stop is Midtown Manhattan, home to iconic New York landmarks like Times Square and Broadway. Although billboards and marquees were dim in 2020, 2021 proved to be optimistic as shows began to return to the stage and the stage lights flickered back on. We take a look at upcoming broadway revivals the the accompanying tribulations related to the #MeToo movement, inclusion and diversity, and more... and how this might start to break some of the deep rooted traditions and rituals related to performance.   💭 Provocations:  What rituals and routines do you have? What "performances" do they help you prepare for? How might we hold more traditional performing arts institutions accountable for change? Are there any examples you can point to that could serve as role models for these institutions?   📸 Head to our Instagram @tothatpoint to see accompanying visuals for this episode and to continue the conversation. 🎧  To That Point is recorded and produced by Jasmin Escher and Montana Blair. Audio engineering by Levi Barrie. 
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    02_Uptown

    11:09

    Our adventure starts on the Upper West Side, home to beloved and prestigious arts institutions like Lincoln Center and The New York City Ballet. As pandemic restrictions lifted, many institutions celebrated their long-awaited return to the stage with traditional stories. While we crave the familiar, we also recognize that we've grown and changed a lot in the past year. As the curtain rises and shows begin once again, we take a look at how audiences and performers are returning the stage.. and start to imagine where those stages could exist outside the walls of a theatre.   💭 Provocations: How do you think the performing arts industry will rebuild itself? What does it mean to perform? Where might stages exist in our everyday lives?   📸 Head to our Instagram @tothatpoint to see accompanying visuals for this episode and to continue the conversation. 🎧  To That Point is recorded and produced by Jasmin Escher and Montana Blair. Audio engineering by Levi Barrie. 
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    01_Drinks at the Crosby

    5:15

    Emerging from the pandemic, Jasmin and Montana sit down for drinks at the Crosby Street Hotel and chat through what's next for New York City, what's happening in the performing arts world that could inform the post-pandemic renaissance, and how we might marry our love for the arts with our strategy skillsets to embark on a new research project dubbed 'Ensemble." 📸 Head to our Instagram @tothatpoint to see accompanying visuals for this episode and to continue the conversation. 🎧  To That Point is recorded and produced by Jasmin Escher and Montana Blair. Audio engineering by Levi Barrie. Featured guests this episode are Smoove Irie and Malcom Moon. 
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    00_Director's Cut 1

    7:03

    Ensemble is a narrative-style podcast documenting the re-opening of New York City in 2021 through the lens of performing arts. In the first Director's Cut, Montana introduces the origins of the Ensemble project and gives you a glimpse at what you'll hear this season. We'll be dropping two episodes per week. You can choose your own adventure and click through episodes based on your interest, but we recommend listening to the season from the top, in order, as the episodes naturally flow into each other  and follow the progression of the city reopening. 📸 Head to our Instagram @tothatpoint for accompanying visuals showcasing the characters and venues we visited along the way, and to continue the conversation. 🎧  To That Point is recorded and produced by Jasmin Escher and Montana Blair. Audio engineering for this season is by Levi Barrie.

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