The Former Lawyer Podcast podcast

The Former Lawyer Podcast

Sarah Cottrell

Do you hate working as a lawyer? Are you an unhappy lawyer who wants to leave the law, but isn't sure what to do next? Do your family and friends think you're crazy for wanting to leave the law, or are you too afraid to tell them you don't want to be a lawyer? The Former Lawyer Podcast is for you! Each week, host Sarah Cottrell interviews a different former lawyer who has left the law behind. Hear inspiring stories about how these former lawyers are thriving and found their way to careers and lives they love.

100 episodios

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    Making The Move To A Non-Legal Career With Nhu-Y Le

    50:05

    On the latest episode of the Former Lawyer Podcast, I spoke with Nhu-Y Le, Vice President of Client Services at Legalpad. Legalpad is a business immigration company that helps startups immigrate their founders and other talent to the United States.  I think Y’s story is really helpful in the sense that she illustrates how you can make small moves over time and still end up in a place that works for you. Listen to hear more about Y’s story and to hear some advice if you’re starting to feel unsure that the law is the right path for you. See Show notes at formerlawyer.com/111
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    The Cost Of Career Coaching For Lawyers with Annie Little

    50:48

    Annie Little is an ICF-certified career coach and a former lawyer. Her company is called JD Nation, which was founded in 2012. In 2013, Annie left her position in real estate finance. Since then, she’s been coaching lawyers to help them land and succeed in their ideal jobs. On the latest episode of the Former Lawyer Podcast, I was joined by Annie Little to talk about a topic that isn’t covered enough. The topic is what you can expect to pay when you’re looking for career coaching as a lawyer. In this article, I’ll be reviewing what we discussed about the pros and cons of one-on-one career coaching and working in a group. We’ll also be sharing our own experiences in career coaching for lawyers and what we’ve observed. Show notes at formerlawyer.com/110
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    Gaslighting In The Legal Profession: Are Former Lawyers Just Bitter?

    20:51

    Recently, I was sent an article from one of the listeners of the Former Lawyer Podcast. This article, entitled Why Former Lawyers Are Bitter Sometimes, seems to be premised on two flawed assumptions.  The first, that former lawyers who are vocal about their negative experiences in a legal profession are doing so because they're bitter. The other one is that being vocal about your negative experiences in legal practice is proof of bitterness. Neither of those assumptions is true. This speaks to a larger conversation that we need to be having about the legal profession. It closely relates to issues that you are definitely running into if you are unhappy as a lawyer and are considering leaving. Listen to hear more about my take on the article, as I shed some light on the perspective that the author missed. See Show notes at formerlawyer.com/109
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    Creating A Better Workplace Culture For Working Parents With Debi Yadegari

    44:06

    Debi Yadegari is a former lawyer who worked in biglaw and in-house law. These days, she runs Villyge, a company that helps organizations support working parents. This company came out of her own experience of observing the workplace culture and lack of support for working parents in biglaw and in-house law firms.  She saw how working parents, or any human being who wanted to have interests and a life outside of work, were not being supported by their employers. Like many of us, this story started with a passion to make a change in the world. While Debi was able to do that, she eventually realized that it was all too much. After leaving the law because of the workplace culture, she launched Villyge, becoming a working mother of five. Keep reading to learn about Debi’s journey in law and her journey to creating Villyge. Shownotes formerlawyer.com/108
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    How To Leave Your Legal Career Without Guilt

    7:17

    In your legal career, one of the most common things you’ll see is people leaving. You want to leave the law too, but you don’t want to leave the workload behind for someone else or because you feel you owe your firm.  Unfortunately, none of this is true. In reality, you are just a widget. You serve a purpose, and when the time comes, they can and will replace you. The loyalty you have to your firm just isn’t replicated by the top-level decision-makers. As unfortunate as it sounds, this knowledge can actually propel your decision to leave the law for good. Keep reading to learn more about widgets, loyalty in the legal industry, and how you can break free from it all without feeling guilty! See Show notes at formerlawyer.com/107
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    Leaving Law School and Choosing An Alternative Career With Tarzan Kay

    45:50

    Tarzan Kay is a copywriter that also teaches other people how to write better copy, specifically for emails. I asked Tarzan to join men on the Former Lawyer Podcast after I listened to an interview with her on another podcast. In that interview, she spoke about leaving law school during her third year. Her story is unique in terms of the fact that she realized that law was not for her before practicing law. She dropped out of law school with only a few classes left. After leaving law school, it took her three years and some additional motivation to find her way back into the world as a copywriter. Listen in to hear more about Tarzan’s journey in leaving law school and how you can find an alternative career to law. Shownotes formerlawyer.com/106
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    The Simple Five-Step Framework to Identify an Alternative Career that You Actually Like

    14:24

    This week on the podcast, I am super excited to share with you a preview of the first episode of a secret pop-up podcast series called “The Simple Five-Step Framework to Identify an Alternative Career that You Actually Like” that I have just released.  This series is available for a limited time, until September 8th, partially in celebration of the starting of the first Guided Track in the Collaborative on September 9th.  If you want to get this secret pop-up podcast and learn more about this 5-step framework, just head to formerlawyer.com/popup and put in your name and email. I definitely recommend that you do it as soon as you hear this because it will be available only for registrants and until 5:00 PM on the 8th, I won’t be posting about it more on the site like this, so listen before then if you're interested. And to give you a sample of what’s included in the series, here’s what the first episode is all about. Shownotes formerlawyer.com/105
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    The Truth About Being Miserable As a Lawyer & What To Do About It

    10:18

    There’s one thing you need to know about being miserable as a lawyer: it is not normal. I want to say that again, it’s not normal to be miserable in your job. I often see lawyers who think that it is normal since everyone around them is miserable in their jobs. Even though their complaint is not so much about the hard work that goes into being a lawyer, but about the indignities that they suffer from colleagues and other people, somehow we have accepted that being miserable at work is normal, even to be expected.  That is especially true for someone like me who went straight from undergrad to law school. You can have an outlook that goes sheer misery is just part of having a “real job” and being part of the “working world”. I want to be as clear as possible, sheer misery as a lawyer is not normal.  See Show notes at formerlawyer.com/104
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    Finding A Post-Legal Career in Legal Tech With Maya Markovich

    47:27

    Maya Markovich is the Chief Growth Officer at Nextlaw Labs, an innovation company in the legal tech industry. Maya pioneered her way to this position after her jump from practicing law. Her passion to create influential change was her driving force, and with that, Maya found a post-legal career that she’s extremely talented at, and most importantly, that she is passionate about. In this episode, we talk about Maya’s journey from practicing law to her post-legal career in legal tech. Keep reading to learn about her realization that practicing law wasn’t the right path and what she did to find the perfect post-legal career. See Show notes at formerlawyer.com/103
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    What Transitioning Out Of The Law Looks Like With Collaborative Member Jamie

    41:14

    We recently started a new series of episodes where I will be interviewing some members of The Collaborative to hear their stories and experience with the membership. In this episode, we are joined by Jamie, who is sharing what transitioning out of the law looks like. Jamie intends to leave by the end of the year.  As always, my goal with the podcast and membership is to help lawyers taking the bold step of leaving the law do so easily. Transitioning out of the law is no easy feat, especially when the law was your dream career.  If you find yourself in a similar situation, you’ll enjoy hearing Jamie talk to us about her journey into the legal profession, how it has been for her, and how The Collaborative is helping her get ready to transition out of the law. See Show notes at formerlawyer.com/102

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