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In part two, Lena and Alissa discuss Lil Kim’s perjury trial and subsequent time in prison, her hiatus from releasing music, and the bad headlines about plastic surgery that have consumed the latter part of her career. Plus, a discussion about why pioneering women are often punished for their discoveries. This episode was first published on 10/27/2022.

Lil’ Kim is a rapper, performer, and fashion icon who changed the landscape of music in the 90s and early 2000s. In the first of two parts, Lena and Alissa discuss Kim’s childhood in Bed Stuy, her tempestuous working and romantic relationship with Biggie Smalls, and the genesis of her public identity as an icon of sexual power. Later in the episode, Alissa sits down for a chat with the co-architect of Kim’s image, stylist Misa Hylton, alongside Interview magazine editor in chief, Mel Ottenberg. This episode was first published on 10/20/2022.

Welcome to The We Do Not Care Club Podcast hosted by Melani Sanders, content creator, founding member of the WDNC, and New York Times bestselling author of The Official We Do Not Care Club Handbook. What started as Melani’s hilarious and all-too-true social media declaration that she simply did not care much anymore has become a global movement centered on sisterhood, laughter, honesty, and understanding that we are not alone, and we are enough. From menopause to marriage, motherhood, sex, relationships, changing bodies, mental health, work, money, food, and the everyday chaos of midlife, no topic is off-limits. Available now: link.pscrb.fm/f0281/wdnccfdcw-e2f5a

Dana Plato was a beloved child star in the 80s sitcom Diff’rent Strokes, but her good girl on-screen persona was spoiled by rumors that she was partaking in the bad behavior trifecta: sex, drugs, and alcohol. The public was quick to forget about her after she was written off the show...until years later, when she made headlines for robbing a video store. Lena and Alissa discuss child stars, motherhood and addiction, and talk about how their approach to the podcast has changed throughout its run.This episode was first published on 10/13/2022.

Belle Gibson was one of the original wellness influencers. She documented her unconventional cancer recovery process—consisting largely of restrictive eating and herbal remedies—for a growing cadre of loyal followers. She furthered her empire by developing a popular wellness app and a book. But it was all a lie. She was never afflicted with the cancer that defined her public identity. This week, Lena and Alissa unpack Belle’s big lie, the toxic undercurrents of internet wellness culture, and the many pitfalls of building a life online. This episode was first published on 10/06/2022.

Maila Nurmi was known for her role as Vampira, the original glamour ghoul, late-night horror host, and proto-goth sex symbol who would inspire the on-screen look of modern-day Morticia Addams. Despite her lasting impact on 1950s America, and on culture at large, few people remember her today. In this episode, Lena and Alissa discuss her artistry, her sharp tongue and scathing disses, and her involvement with Hollywood greats like Orson Welles, Marlon Brando, Elvis Presley, and— most infamously—James Dean.This episode was first published on 09/29/2022.

In part two, the tabloids rejoice that Lindsay is legal, and gleefully surveil the rest of her early adulthood. As the public scrutinizes her body, her partying, and her family, Lindsay descends deeper into a seesawing addiction that will land her in numerous rehab stints. In this episode, Lena and Alissa discuss her highly publicized relationship with Samantha Ronson, her moment in prison, her OWN docuseries, and how talk show hosts have become the figureheads for our nation’s paternalistic society. Finally, Alissa chats with New Yorker staff writer and friend-of-the-show, Naomi Fry, about LiLo.This episode was first published on 09/15/2022.

Lindsay Lohan’s name has become synonymous with maladaptive child stardom, toxic tabloid culture, and the general trainwreckery of the mid-aughts—but it wasn’t always that way. In the first of two parts, Lena and Alissa unpack LiLo’s childhood, her precocious talent and early popularity, the media’s perverse fascination with her prepubescent body, and the beginnings of her Bad Behavior headlines which would drastically influence 2000s pop culture. Lena also shares moments throughout her youth and career during which her and Lilo’s paths have overlapped. This episode was first published on 09/08/2022.

Lena and Alissa discuss the latter half of Linda’s career—her first retirement and then comeback, the tabloid’s fixation on her weight and health, her much criticized divorce proceedings, and her eventual retreat from public life due to a botched cosmetic procedure. Also in Part 2: aging, plastic surgery, and what it means when your self is defined by how others see you.This episode was first published on 03/31/2022.

Linda Evangelista was one of the first Supermodels in the 90s to capture America’s admiration, love, and then criticism. She uttered the infamous words: “We don’t get up for less than $10 thousand a day.” Later, after more than a decade of public fixation on her age and weight, she would become a recluse due to a botched cosmetic procedure. In Part 1, Lena and Alissa discuss Linda’s childhood, her role as one-third of the 90s “Trinity” with Christy Turlington and Naomi Campbell, her famous haircut, and the rise of the model as celebrity. Alissa also shares anecdotes from her years as a model.This episode was first published on 03/17/2022.