JOE S6E19: Lisa and Friends: Kate Bowler

In this final episode of the "Your Body" mini-series, Lisa Whittle shares her journey toward discovering real success—defined by biblical truth rather than cultural standards.  This isn’t about perfection or meeting worldly standards. It’s about understanding who we are in Christ and living from that truth. When our minds are renewed and our hearts aligned with Scripture, lasting freedom becomes a reality. (Curious to learn more about whole body theology? Grab a copy of Lisa Whittle’s Bible Study - Body & Soul.)Listen in to learn more:(0:39) Defining triumph(3:53) What a water spill can teach us(8:50)  Rebuilding vs. rebooting(13:03) Adjusting our mindset to a whole body theology (14:19) Three keys to true and lasting freedom(16:19) A journey of continued healing  Mentioned in the Episode:Fit For His Glory: https://www.fitforhisglory.coAnchored Virtual: https://anchoredvirtual.comThis vs. That - Podcast: https://anchoredvirtual.com/tvt-allBody & Soul - Bible Study: https://www.lisawhittle.com/body Resources:Thank you to our season sponsors – Fit For His Glory and Anchored Virtual!Fit For His Glory helps women in every stage of life create lasting change in their health. Start your journey today and enjoy 20% off memberships or five-week intensives with code JOE.  Follow on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/fitforhisglory. Anchored Virtual offers accessible mental-health support with trained, faith-based counselors. Visit anchoredvirtual.com and use code JOE10 at checkout for 10% off your first session.   Follow on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/anchoredvirtual.  Connect with Lisa:Website: https://www.lisawhittle.comSubstack: https://letsbeclear.substack.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lisawhittleofficialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisawhittleFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/lisawhittleofficial

Many of us grow up with confusing or incomplete messages about our bodies—maybe even messages that conflict with Scripture. But there’s hope. When we ground our view of ourselves in biblical truth, we can live with confidence, purpose, and purity—not just outwardly, but from the heart. In this third episode of the “Your Body” mini-series, Lisa Whittle unpacks what it truly means to see our bodies as temples of the Holy Spirit, and how living in biblical truth can transform our view of health and wholeness.   Listen in to learn more:(:43) A personal story from Lisa (7:54) The stigma counseling used to carry(8:46) Defining trauma(9:43) Compartmentalizing our bodies (13:20) Is all therapy helpful? (14:29) The key to understanding whole body theology (15:30) A question to ask yourself Mentioned in the Episode:Anchored Virtual: https://anchoredvirtual.comThis vs. That - Podcast: https://anchoredvirtual.com/tvt-allFit For His Glory: https://www.fitforhisglory.coBody & Soul - Bible Study: https://www.lisawhittle.com/body Resources:Thank you to our season sponsors – Anchored Virtual and Fit For His Glory!  Anchored Virtual offers accessible mental-health support with trained, faith-based counselors. Visit anchoredvirtual.com and use code JOE10 at checkout for 10% off your first session.   Follow on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/anchoredvirtual. Fit For His Glory helps women in every stage of life create lasting change in their health. Start your journey today and enjoy 20% off memberships or five-week intensives with code JOE.  Follow on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/fitforhisglory.  Connect with Lisa:Website: https://www.lisawhittle.comSubstack: https://letsbeclear.substack.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lisawhittleofficialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisawhittleFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/lisawhittleofficial

Trauma isn’t always dramatic—it’s personal, and it leaves its mark. When we ignore or minimize what we’ve been through, we miss the opportunity to invite God's healing into those wounded places. In this second heartfelt episode of the “Your Body” mini-series, join Lisa as she explores how embracing our trauma with biblical truth can ultimately bring glory to God and help us step into the freedom He offers.Listen in to learn more:(0:43) A personal story from Lisa (7:54) The stigma counseling used to carry(8:46) Defining trauma(9:43) Compartmentalizing our bodies (13:20) Is all therapy helpful? (14:29) The key to understanding whole body theology (15:30) A question to ask yourself Mentioned in the Episode:Fit For His Glory: https://www.fitforhisglory.coAnchored Virtual: https://anchoredvirtual.comThis vs. That - Podcast: https://anchoredvirtual.com/tvt-allBody & Soul - Bible Study: https://www.lisawhittle.com/body Resources:Thank you to our season sponsors – Fit For His Glory and Anchored Virtual!Fit For His Glory helps women in every stage of life create lasting change in their health. Start your journey today and enjoy 20% off memberships or five-week intensives with code JOE.  Follow on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/fitforhisglory. Anchored Virtual offers accessible mental-health support with trained, faith-based counselors. Visit anchoredvirtual.com and use code JOE10 at checkout for 10% off your first session.   Follow on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/anchoredvirtual.  Connect with Lisa:Website: https://www.lisawhittle.comSubstack: https://letsbeclear.substack.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lisawhittleofficialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisawhittleFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/lisawhittleofficial

Have you ever found yourself reacting strongly to something, only to realize it’s more about a past wound than the present moment? In this first episode of Lisa Whittle’s podcast mini-series on, "Your Body," Lisa opens up about the power of triggers—those moments that send us into a spiral of hurt or shame—and how understanding their roots can set us free. Drawing from her personal experiences and whole body theology, Lisa shares four practical ways to confront triggers and begin a journey toward lasting freedom.Listen in to learn more:(3:01) Defining triggers(6:41) Two truths about triggers(8:05) Being in tune with our bodies(9:45) Being honest about our triggers(10:35) Finding freedom from triggers(14:07) Letting God rebuild our view of our bodiesMentioned in the episode:Anchored Virtual: https://anchoredvirtual.comThis vs. That - Podcast: https://anchoredvirtual.com/tvt-allFit For His Glory: https://www.fitforhisglory.coBody & Soul - Bible Study: https://www.lisawhittle.com/bodyResources:Thank you to our season sponsors – Anchored Virtual and Fit For His Glory!  Anchored Virtual offers accessible mental-health support with trained, faith-based counselors. Visit anchoredvirtual.com and use code JOE10 at checkout for 10% off your first session.   Follow on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/anchoredvirtual. Fit For His Glory helps women in every stage of life create lasting change in their health. Start your journey today and enjoy 20% off memberships or five-week intensives with code JOE.  Follow on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/fitforhisglory. Connect with Lisa:Website: https://www.lisawhittle.comSubstack: https://letsbeclear.substack.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lisawhittleofficialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisawhittleFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/lisawhittleofficial

Have you ever felt that serving in a bigger capacity equates to a more significant calling? Or questioned your purpose in ministry?  With insights drawn from over 25 years in ministry, Lisa reflects on her past mindset about pride and entitlement, reminding us that serving God faithfully—regardless of how big or small the platform—is what truly matters. Uncovering the deeper truths about humility and fulfillment in serving, this episode encourages you to rethink what ministry means, whether it’s in front of thousands or just a few. Discover how to serve with the right heart motives… wherever God has placed you.Listen in to learn more:(1:17) Lisa’s reluctant start in ministry(8:18) How to identify a root of pride in your walk(15:08) Overcoming fear and continuing the journey of your calling(17:18) The key place we need to start in ministry(19:10) How do I know I’m serving where God wants me to be?(21:10) Is local ministry a launching pad to global ministry?Mentioned in the Episode:ANCHORED VIRTUAL: https://anchoredvirtual.com/cohortJoin the Pastors' Wives Cohort, an 8-week virtual program from Anchored Virtual designed to provide biblical encouragement, practical wisdom, and a supportive community for pastors' wives. Starting May 1st, participants will enjoy live teaching sessions, small group discussions, and access to exclusive resources—all designed to fit your busy schedule. Sign up now at AnchoredVirtual.com/Cohort and use the code JOE for a 10% discount!BODY & SOUL ONLINE GATHERINGS: MAY 2025: https://www.lisawhittle.com/gatheringCalling all Bible Study Leaders, Small Group Hosts, and Moms of Teenage Daughters! Join Lisa Whittle for an exclusive online gathering where you'll learn to guide women in exploring a biblical perspective on body image and health. Don’t miss this opportunity to engage before the release of her upcoming Bible Study, Body & Soul, launching in July 2025. For more details and registration, visit lisawhittle.com/gathering! Connect with Lisa:Website: https://www.lisawhittle.comSubstack: https://letsbeclear.substack.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lisawhittleofficialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisawhittleFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/lisawhittleofficial

Have you ever thought that staying married was simpler than it truly is? In this insightful and at times humorous episode of the Jesus Over Everything show, Lisa Whittle engages with author and comedian Harrison Scott Key about the real-life complexities of marriage, as detailed in his book, How to Stay Married. With a mix of humor and vulnerability, Harrison discusses how the writing process forced him to confront the hard truths in his life, especially surrounding his marriage, which faced the test of infidelity.Listen in to learn how honesty can become a way to heal, how communication can become a powerful tool for couples, and how discussing sensitive issues can bring families closer together. Join Lisa and Harrison as they peel back the layers on marriage, infidelity, and the strength that comes from being real with oneself and God. Key Moments to Discover:(1:41) - Wrestling with beliefs and the writing process(7:03) - Harrison’s book title: a bold statement on commitment(14:44) - Understanding the necessary truth: dying to self in storytelling(17:46) - Grasping the pain of infidelity and betrayal(22:52) - The complexities of writing about loved ones(26:28) - Harrison’s key advice for aspiring writers(38:48) - The importance of honesty and true community within the church(44:07) - Navigating tough conversations with kids about marriage challenges Mentioned in the Episode:ANCHORED VIRTUAL: https://anchoredvirtual.com/cohortJoin the Pastors' Wives Cohort, an 8-week virtual program from Anchored Virtual designed to provide biblical encouragement, practical wisdom, and a supportive community for pastors' wives. Starting May 1st, participants will enjoy live teaching sessions, small group discussions, and access to exclusive resources—all designed to fit your busy schedule. Sign up now at AnchoredVirtual.com/Cohort and use the code JOE for a 10% discount!BODY & SOUL ONLINE GATHERINGS: MAY 2025: https://www.lisawhittle.com/gatheringCalling all Bible Study Leaders, Small Group Hosts, and Moms of Teenage Daughters! Join Lisa Whittle for an exclusive online gathering where you'll learn to guide women in exploring a biblical perspective on body image and health. Don’t miss this opportunity to engage before the release of her upcoming Bible Study, Body & Soul, launching in July 2025. For more details and registration, visit lisawhittle.com/gathering! Connect with Harrison:Book - How to Stay Married: https://a.co/d/cMKDcQBWebsite: https://www.harrisonscottkey.comInstagram: instagram.com/harrisonscottkeyFacebook: facebook.com/harrisonscottkey Connect with Lisa:Website: https://www.lisawhittle.comSubstack: https://letsbeclear.substack.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lisawhittleofficialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisawhittleFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/lisawhittleofficial

Have you ever felt like your beliefs about God and your experiences of Him are worlds apart? In this special guest episode of the “I Used to Think” season, Lisa Whittle invites Pastor Steve Cuss to explore the complex relationship between our expectations and the reality of God’s love. Drawing insights from his book, “The Expectation Gap: The Tiny, Vast Space Between Our Beliefs and Experience of God,” Steve and Lisa delve into the struggles of doubt, vulnerability, and the importance of authenticity in the faith journey. Discover how you can confront your misconceptions, embrace the gifts God provides, and learn to receive His love more fully.Listen in to learn more:(0:22) - Meet Steve Cuss: Understanding the chaplain and pastor perspective(4:50) - A candid look at the relatable struggles of doubt and fear(11:02) - The biggest challenge facing those in vocational ministry(19:02) - Finding divine gifts tailored for you within your journey(31:51) - The lasting impact of agreements we make throughout life(35:18) - Why downplaying pain can hinder growth and healing(41:39) - Debunking the myth: “strong people” vs. “weak people” Mentioned in the episode:The Expectation Gap: https://a.co/d/bOXAIVXCrossway: https://www.crossway.org/PlusPrep Dish: https://prepdish.com/JOECalled Creatives: https://www.calledcreatives.com Resources:Special thank you to this season’s sponsors of the Jesus Over Everything show:Crossway: “The Story of Jesus: A Guided Journey Through the Gospel of John” shares the gospel message in an inviting, book-like format that's accessible for both nonbelievers and new Christians. Pick up a copy wherever books are sold or visit the link above to learn how you can get 30% off with a Crossway+ account. Prep Dish: Prep Dish is the best way for busy people to get nourishing meals on the table, without the stress. Listeners of the JOE Show can enjoy a FREE two-week trial of Prep Dish meal plans by visiting the link above. Connect with Steve:Website: http://www.stevecusswords.comInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/stevecusswordsBeing Human (Podcast): https://www.christianitytoday.com/podcasts/being-human Connect with Lisa:Website: https://www.lisawhittle.comSubstack: https://letsbeclear.substack.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lisawhittleofficialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisawhittleFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/lisawhittleofficial

Do you often find yourself taking on the emotional burdens of others? In this compelling episode of the “I Used to Think” season, Lisa Whittle dives deep into the topic of empathy—specifically, why we sometimes rush to carry the traumas and pains of those we love, even when it's not our responsibility.Lisa shares personal insights that illuminate the fine line between compassion and overstepping boundaries. Discover four signs that indicate when your empathy has crossed the line and explore practical ways to support your loved ones without taking on their struggles. Listen in to learn how to love well while maintaining your own emotional health!Discover more:(0:50) - Understanding the “defender personality” and its impact(3:12) - Examining the urge to shoulder others’ burdens(8:56) - Four indicators that empathy has gone too far(11:19) - Recognizing when you’re playing the role of counselor—red flags to watch(17:45) - Best practices for advocating for others without losing yourself(22:50) - The healthiest ways to support your loved onesMentioned in the Episode:Prep Dish: https://prepdish.com/JOECrossway: https://www.crossway.org/PlusCalled Creatives: https://www.calledcreatives.comResources:Special thank you to this season’s sponsors of the Jesus Over Everything show:Prep Dish: Prep Dish is the best way for busy people to get nourishing meals on the table, without the stress. Listeners of the JOE Show can enjoy a FREE two-week trial of Prep Dish meal plans by visiting the link above.Crossway: “The Story of Jesus: A Guided Journey Through the Gospel of John” shares the gospel message in an inviting, book-like format that's accessible for both nonbelievers and new Christians. Pick up a copy wherever books are sold or visit the link above to learn how you can get 30% off with a Crossway+ account. Connect with Lisa:Website: https://www.lisawhittle.comSubstack: https://letsbeclear.substack.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lisawhittleofficialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisawhittleFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/lisawhittleofficial

Have you ever felt you had to put on a mask to fit in or meet others' expectations? In this powerful episode of the "I Used to Think" season, Lisa Whittle sits down with KayDianna MacKenzie, whose journey as a Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader and social media personality vividly illustrates the struggle between societal pressures and authentic self-expression.What you'll learn in this episode:(0:45) - Meet KayDianna and how her journey unfolded on social media(2:50) - The transition from rookie to veteran on the DCC team(5:00) - KayDianna’s unexpected path to recognizing God’s plan in her life(7:12) - Growing faith through trials—how obstacles lead to deeper trust (10:45) - Vulnerability in sharing insecurities and struggles with self-acceptance(14:33) - Image vs. identity—how KayDianna encourages women to focus on what's inside(18:01) - The role of mentorship—and how you don’t need to have all the answers(22:05) - Challenges of maintaining a curated image and the true essence of beauty(25:27) - Reflecting on the significant misconceptions that shaped KayDianna’s beliefs(28:45) - KayDianna’s advice to young women Mentioned in the episode:Crossway: https://www.crossway.org/PlusPrep Dish: https://prepdish.com/JOEThe Hard Good: https://www.lisawhittle.com/good Resources:Special thank you to this season’s sponsors of the Jesus Over Everything show:Crossway: “The Story of Jesus: A Guided Journey Through the Gospel of John” shares the gospel message in an inviting, book-like format that's accessible for both nonbelievers and new Christians. Pick up a copy wherever books are sold or visit the link above to learn how you can get 30% off with a Crossway+ account. Prep Dish: Prep Dish is the best way for busy people to get nourishing meals on the table, without the stress. Listeners of the JOE Show can enjoy a FREE two-week trial of Prep Dish meal plans by visiting the link above. Connect with KayDianna:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kaydiannamackenzie Connect with Lisa:Website: https://www.lisawhittle.comSubstack: https://letsbeclear.substack.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lisawhittleofficialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisawhittleFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/lisawhittleofficial

Have you ever felt that keeping your family’s secrets equates to love? In this compelling episode, Lisa Whittle discusses how the lines between secrecy and privacy can often blur within families. Through her own personal experiences, Lisa reveals the lie that loyalty means covering for others’ sins. With candidness and vulnerability, she emphasizes the importance of bringing the truth to the forefront and allowing God to work in the midst of our family dynamics. Keeping secrets can weigh heavily on our souls—this isn’t the freedom Jesus desires for us. If you find yourself wrestling with the complexities of loyalty and truth, this episode is packed with essential insights you won’t want to miss!Listen in to learn more:(0:39) - What God dropped on Lisa’s heart(2:15) - Should truth tellers share other’s business?(3:17) - Trust in a pastor’s family(4:37) - Mistaken beliefs(7:24) - Secrecy vs. privacy: defining the difference(10:37) - When privacy becomes more…(15:14) - Family secrets don’t equal love(16:35) - Getting out of God’s wayGet ready to challenge your beliefs and embrace the freedom found in truth! Mentioned in the Episode:Prep Dish: https://prepdish.com/JOECrossway: https://www.crossway.org/PlusJesus Over Everything book: https://www.lisawhittle.com/joeJesus Over Everything 6-Week Bible Study: https://shopstyle.it/l/bObaO Resources:Special thank you to this season’s sponsors of the Jesus Over Everything show:Prep Dish: Prep Dish is the best way for busy people to get nourishing meals on the table without the stress. Listeners of the JOE Show can enjoy a FREE two-week trial of Prep Dish meal plans by visiting the link above.Crossway: “The Story of Jesus: A Guided Journey Through the Gospel of John” shares the gospel message in an inviting, book-like format that's accessible for both nonbelievers and new Christians. Pick up a copy wherever books are sold or visit the link above to learn how you can get 30% off with a Crossway+ account.  Connect with Lisa:Website: https://www.lisawhittle.comSubstack: https://letsbeclear.substack.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lisawhittleofficialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisawhittleFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/lisawhittleofficial