Human Design Collective Podcast

Ivar Vehler is a 6/2 Emotional Manifesting Generator, a sociologist by training with studies in organizational sociology at the University of Oslo and UC Berkeley. Based in Oslo, Norway, he has spent more than two decades in leadership development and mindfulness teaching, including eight years of in-depth training with his teacher Vigdis Garbarek. Human Design is not his core modality, and he comes to it from long contemplative practice and a commitment to going to the fundamentals of whatever he meets. In this episode, Ivar offers his own reading of passenger consciousness, developed for a lecture he gave in Norway after finding little substance in the way the term is usually handled. We explore what happens when identification with our qualities closes off the capacity to observe them, and what it means to hold those qualities as something given rather than something personal. The conversation moves through authority and the influence of ideals, the difference between seeking and running from what feels unbearable, the place of a strong sense of I, the stillness at the base of the Root, and the way reflection and discernment come out of that stillness. Ivar also speaks about no choice as something that arrives when action stops being personal, about innocence and the absence of shame, and about honesty as the practical face of truth. Ivar's willingness to question the field directly, along with the warmth and humor underneath the sharpness, comes through clearly in this conversation. We hope you enjoy it. To connect with Ivar: Web Passenger consciousness - going deep To connect with the hosts, visit: Amy Lee, Human Design Analyst & Guide at holiatry.com John Cole, Human Design Analyst & Guide at metamorphicsystems.com For more information about the Human Design Collective and to support our work, please visit: https://humandesigncollective.com/podcast/ For Human Design courses and workshops, visit: https://courses.humandesigncollective.com Human Design Collective Podcast music "Stars of the Unexpected" by Meg Ruby and Anders Parker. For more information, visit: megruby.com andersparker.com

Emelie Eriksson is a 5/1 Sacral Generator with a strongly individual chart, immersed in Human Design for over ten years. Based in Norway, she brings together her studies of Human Design, Gene Keys, mindfulness, and years of guidance from her teacher Vigdis to explore what it means to live in alignment. In this episode, Emelie shares how she discovered Human Design after losing touch with her own sense of direction, and how her individual chart, with its channels of struggle and initiation, gradually helped her rebuild trust in herself. We explore the layered nature of Sacral Authority beyond the simple gut response, the difference between inner and outer ethics, the distinction between remorse and shame, and the question of choice versus no choice. The conversation also includes Gene Keys as a tool in understanding living themes, and what genuine humility looks like when contact with inner authority deepens. Emelie's honesty about the layered, sometimes difficult path of self-trust, along with her warmth and depth of reflection, come through clearly in this conversation. We hope you enjoy it. To connect with Emelie: Web To connect with the hosts, visit: Amy Lee, Human Design Analyst & Guide at holiatry.com John Cole, Human Design Analyst & Guide at metamorphicsystems.com For more information about the Human Design Collective and to support our work, please visit: https://humandesigncollective.com/podcast/ For Human Design courses and workshops, visit: https://courses.humandesigncollective.com Human Design Collective Podcast music "Stars of the Unexpected" by Meg Ruby and Anders Parker. For more information, visit: megruby.com andersparker.com

In this episode, we explore the relationship between the true self and the not-self, and how these two experiences of self interact in daily life. Rather than treating the not-self as something to eradicate, we examine how it operates through identification, attention, and the stories we tell about ourselves, and what happens when we stop feeding those narratives. Throughout the conversation, we reflect on the problems that arise when others point out our not-self tendencies, how recognizing the natural life force is more empowering than vigilance against what's wrong, and why deconditioning is less about catching ourselves and more about disidentifying with the story of brokenness. We close with a look at our upcoming monthly workshop series, beginning June 19th, going center by center to examine our lived relationship with each area of the BodyGraph. We hope you enjoy the conversation. To connect with the hosts, visit: Amy Lee, Human Design Analyst & Guide at holiatry.com John Cole, Human Design Analyst & Guide at metamorphicsystems.com For more information about the Human Design Collective and to support our work, please visit: https://humandesigncollective.com/podcast/ For Human Design courses and workshops, visit: https://courses.humandesigncollective.com Human Design Collective Podcast music "Stars of the Unexpected" by Meg Ruby and Anders Parker. For more information, visit: megruby.com andersparker.com

Maria Mateus is a longtime astrologer who has studied traditional and modern systems of astrology working within the lineage of ancient hermetic astrology, while developing her own techniques through years of research and empirical study. Her approach focuses on the foundational grammar and principles of the astrological language, bringing clarity to concepts that have been lost or obscured in modern practice. In this episode, Maria explores the principle of light in astrology, examining how the sun and moon function as a fundamental duality that structures the entire chart. We discuss the ancient concept of sect, the solar principle as selective and forward-moving versus the lunar principle as inclusive and reflective, and how understanding light as consciousness deepens the reading of any chart. The conversation covers the role of planets as reflectors of light, the relationship between spirit and soul, the Lunar Nodes, and the recent Saturn-Neptune conjunction in Aries. Her grounded, terrestrial approach to astrology and commitment to hermetic principles come through clearly in this conversation. We hope you enjoy it. To connect with Maria: Web To connect with the hosts, visit: Amy Lee, Human Design Analyst & Guide at holiatry.com John Cole, Human Design Analyst & Guide at metamorphicsystems.com For more information about the Human Design Collective and to support our work, please visit: https://humandesigncollective.com/podcast/ For Human Design courses and workshops, visit: https://courses.humandesigncollective.com Human Design Collective Podcast music "Stars of the Unexpected" by Meg Ruby and Anders Parker. For more information, visit: megruby.com andersparker.com

In this episode, we explore the open areas of the chart and the lived experience of the undefined centers. Rather than treating openness as a problem to fix, we look at how the whole BodyGraph includes both consistent definition and receptive space, and how our relationship to these open areas evolves over time through awareness and experience. Drawing from personal examples, we examine what it means to live with inconsistency, how openness can move from overwhelm or comparison toward adaptability and spaciousness, and why boundaries and self-awareness become essential in navigating conditioning. We also explore the difference between a completely open center and an undefined center with activations, including how dormant potentials shape experience and learning. Throughout the conversation, we reflect on how undefined centers function in relationship, how expectations and “should” thinking create unnecessary suffering, and how honoring one’s own capacity brings a greater sense of ease. Ultimately, this episode invites a more integrated view of openness, not as lack, but as a dynamic field of perception, learning, and flexibility that can deepen self-understanding over time. To connect with the hosts, visit: Amy Lee, Human Design Analyst & Guide at holiatry.com John Cole, Human Design Analyst & Guide at metamorphicsystems.com For more information about the Human Design Collective and to support our work, please visit: https://humandesigncollective.com/ For Human Design courses and workshops, visit: https://courses.humandesigncollective.com Human Design Collective Podcast music "Stars of the Unexpected" by Meg Ruby and Anders Parker. For more information, visit: megruby.com andersparker.com

In today’s conversation, we look at a more nuanced layer of the not-self by examining the “distortion of definition.” Rather than focusing only on conditioning in undefined centers, we explore how external pressure, rejection, and early-life dynamics can also contort or suppress the very life force that is meant to be consistent and reliable within us. Through practical examples and channel-level discussion, we consider how innate capacities can become redirected by the insecurities of openness, how roles in families and groups can hijack natural energy, and what it means to reconnect with our own inner intelligence. Themes include self-abandonment, right relationship, empowerment through circuitry, and the difference between healthy expression and compulsive performance. Ultimately, this episode invites a deeper inquiry into deconditioning, not only as letting go of not-self strategies, but as restoring trust in the specific, living intelligence of one’s definition and allowing it to move with greater ease, clarity, and authenticity.  To connect with the hosts, visit: Amy Lee, Human Design Analyst & Guide at holiatry.com John Cole, Human Design Analyst & Guide at metamorphicsystems.com For more information about the Human Design Collective and to support our work, please visit: https://humandesigncollective.com/ For Human Design courses and workshops, visit: https://courses.humandesigncollective.com Human Design Collective Podcast music "Stars of the Unexpected" by Meg Ruby and Anders Parker. For more information, visit: megruby.com andersparker.com

Our spotlight episodes explore current themes related to Human Design. They are intended to support both newcomers seeking understanding and experienced students seeking clarity, depth, and a renewed perspective. In this episode, we reflect on the rapidly evolving knowledge landscape in the age of widespread online resources and AI. We discuss the shift from information delivery to meaningful human connection, the importance of digestion and timing, and the value of meeting people with what is most relevant about their design in the moment. The conversation also explores the growing need for embodied wisdom, seeing before doing, experimentation through recognition rather than rules, and the role of practitioners as companions. The episode closes with an introduction to The Art of Seeing series, a collaborative practicum focused on synthesis, lived experience, and the development of one’s own authentic voice and perceptual style in working with the Human Design knowledge.  To connect with the hosts, visit: Amy Lee, Human Design Analyst & Guide at holiatry.com John Cole, Human Design Analyst & Guide at metamorphicsystems.com For more information about the Human Design Collective and to support our work, please visit: https://humandesigncollective.com/ For Human Design courses and workshops, visit: https://courses.humandesigncollective.com Human Design Collective Podcast music "Stars of the Unexpected" by Meg Ruby and Anders Parker. For more information, visit: megruby.com andersparker.com

Our spotlight episodes explore the core principles and concepts of Human Design. They aim to provide grounding for newcomers to the system and a reminder of what is simple and essential for those who have gone deep into the details. In this episode, we explore what it truly means to “run an experiment.” We discuss shifting from belief to direct observation, applying Strategy and Authority practically, and learning through comparison, trying something, returning to baseline, and observing what actually changes. We also examine common pitfalls, such as going to extremes, moving too fast, and turning the chart into an identity. Ultimately, experimentation is a personal process of gaining clarity, making honest adjustments, and allowing understanding to develop through lived experience. To connect with the hosts, visit: Amy Lee, Human Design Analyst & Guide at holohumandesign.com John Cole, Human Design Analyst & Guide at metamorphicsystems.com For more information about the Human Design Collective and to support our work, please visit: https://humandesigncollective.com/podcast/ For Human Design courses and workshops, visit: https://courses.humandesigncollective.com Human Design Collective Podcast music "Stars of the Unexpected" by Meg Ruby and Anders Parker. For more information, visit: megruby.com andersparker.com

Jenni Crowther is a 5/1 Splenic Projector on the Left Angle Cross of the Clarion. She brings a bright combination of precision, insight, and humility to her work with Human Design, which she has been immersed in since 2016. With a background in yoga, meditation, and retreat facilitation, Jenni approaches the system through both practical embodiment and mythic perspective. In this episode, Jenni shares her journey of deep surrender to the body’s wisdom, explaining how her health and decisions are guided not by conceptual understanding but by felt experience and moment-to-moment awareness. We explore the fifth line profile in detail, the shift from screen-based learning to embodied presence, the desire for genuine connection, and what it means to be in alignment through the body and consciousness using Human Design, as well as other teachings and practices. Her deep connection to the Rave Mandala, long-term dedication to her own experiment, and talent for pattern recognition all shine through in this episode. We hope you enjoy the conversation. To connect with Jenni: Web To connect with the hosts, visit: Amy Lee, Human Design Analyst & Guide at holohumandesign.com John Cole, Human Design Analyst & Guide at metamorphicsystems.com For more information about the Human Design Collective and to support our work, please visit: https://humandesigncollective.com/podcast/ For Human Design courses and workshops, visit: https://courses.humandesigncollective.com Human Design Collective Podcast music "Stars of the Unexpected" by Meg Ruby and Anders Parker. For more information, visit: megruby.com andersparker.com

Our spotlight episodes focus on core design concepts.  If you are new to Human Design, these can offer insights into the foundation of the system.  And if you are more experienced or have gotten lost in the details, these are reminders of what is simple and essential. In this Episode, we revisit Inner Authority through lived experience and practical inquiry. Through real-life examples and our discoveries, we explore the nuances of decision-making. We also consider the influence of transits, relational conditioning, and the gradual development of clarity. Ultimately, mastering Inner authority is a personal discovery process that can lead us to recognition, embodiment, and natural alignment. To connect with the hosts, visit: Amy Lee, Human Design Analyst & Guide at holohumandesign.com John Cole, Human Design Analyst & Guide at metamorphichumandesign.com For more information about the Human Design Collective and to support our work, please visit: https://humandesigncollective.com/podcast/ For Human Design courses and workshops, visit: https://courses.humandesigncollective.com Human Design Collective Podcast music "Stars of the Unexpected" by Meg Ruby and Anders Parker. For more information, visit: megruby.com andersparker.com