Ep. 279 - You Determine the Value

Be open-minded, ditch the negativity, and yes, you can buy that small-town business and make it work. In this episode, Mary Jo sits down with client and Iowa rancher/feed-store owner Erica Lance, who walked away from a 14-year corporate food job to buy a 60-year-old feed store in a town of 1,000 people… during COVID. 👉 Follow Mary Jo Here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXYvzroUouEMsTGKFw5nJHQ  👉 Get the book: https://www.farmingwithoutthebank.com/book  Erica shares how she runs a 5th-generation farm with Dexter cattle, heritage hogs, hair sheep, hypoallergenic curly horses, and silky chickens while modernizing a tiny farm store, creating custom feed mixes, shipping nationwide, and using infinite banking (and her old 401(k)) to fund the dream—without letting the bank control everything. If you've ever wondered how to buy an existing small business, fix its mess of inventory and accounts receivable, negotiate with suppliers, or use life insurance as your own line of credit for your farm or business, this conversation gets very real. What You'll Learn: ◦ How Erica went from corporate food manufacturing to owning a rural feed store ◦ Why she chose Dexter cattle, heritage hogs, hair sheep, and curly horses as niche income streams ◦ The truth about GMO vs non-GMO feed, sprays, and residues from someone who did lab testing ◦ How she mills fresh, locally sourced custom feed and ships it outside Iowa ◦ What no one tells you about buying a 60-year-old small-town business (inventory, expired product, A/R) ◦ Using Amazon and an online store to move poor inventory and reach beyond a town of 1,000 ◦ How her kids learn business by bartering silky chickens and kittens instead of just taking cash ◦ Why did she pull money from her 401(k) to start infinite banking policies for the farm ◦ How separate policies, term coverage, and key-person insurance protect partners and banks ◦ The power of "How can I?" and "Who Not How" for growing when cash and time feel tight Chapters: 0:00 – Negativity, mindset & intro to Erica 3:14 – Inside the ranch: Dexters, heritage hogs, curly horses & silky chickens 14:50 – Building a better feed store: sourcing, custom milling & GMO vs non-GMO 39:47 – Buying a 60-year-old small-town business: inventory, receivables & reality 55:35 – Employees, customer service, Amazon, and FedEx as a growth tool 1:07:55 – Using 401(k)s & life insurance to fund the farm and feed store 1:19:24 – "How can I?", Who Not How & closing thoughts on mindset 📘 Ready to learn Infinite Banking for yourself? Grab Mary Jo's book and Nelson Nash's book, then schedule a time to talk: 🌐 Website: https://www.farmingwithoutthebank.com 📧 Questions: [email protected] 🐄 Need custom feed or farm supplies from Erica? 🌐 Feed store & custom mixes: https://feedersgrain.com?utm_source=y...

Is your 401(k) really a "benefit"… or did you just get dropped into the government's boiling pot without noticing? 👉 Follow Mary Jo Here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXYvzroUouEMsTGKFw5nJHQ  👉 Get the book: https://www.farmingwithoutthebank.com/book  In this episode, Mary Jo continues breaking down Nelson's book Building Your Warehouse of Wealth (Chapter 4) and why he called tax-qualified retirement plans a scam, how government "help" actually means control, and why cash flow + financial education beat blind 401(k) contributions every time. What we cover in this episode: We walk through the history of pensions, 401(k)s, IRAs and Social Security, and how each step slowly pushed Americans into dependence on government-controlled retirement plans. Mary Jo revisits Nelson Nash's famous "boiled frog syndrome" analogy and shows how it applies to: ◦ Auto-enrolled 401(k)s ◦ "Saver's match" incentives ◦ Changing the rules on IRAs and inherited accounts ◦ The illusion that "the market will save you." You'll also hear why the median American doesn't have nearly enough saved to retire, why living past 90 (or even 100+) changes the math completely, and why parents—not schools or the government—must teach kids about money. Key Takeaways: ◦ Government "help" comes with control. Tax-qualified plans exist because of bad tax policy in the first place, and the rules can change at any time. ◦ Auto-enrollment = quiet confiscation. If you don't opt out, you're automatically in the system, with penalties to get your own money back early. ◦ Pensions & Social Security are fragile. Nelson predicted Social Security would fail; corporate pensions are already collapsing or underfunded. ◦ Most people are underprepared. Median retirement savings numbers are nowhere near enough to fund 30–40 years of life after work. ◦ Longevity changes everything. Insurance companies are insuring people out to age 121, retirement plans built for 10–20 years are not enough. ◦ Parents must lead on money. Don't wait for schools or the government. Learn, then teach your kids how to think about money and cash flow. Chapters: 00:00 – Why schools shouldn't teach your kids about money 01:09 – Chapter 4 overview: tax-qualified plans & "the scam." 03:02 – Boiled frog syndrome & major events every 70 years 07:44 – Guaranteed retirement accounts, land grabs & auto-enrollment 11:29 – How pensions, 401(k)s & IRAs really evolved 16:21 – Savings rates, boats, and the illusion of "the market." 20:09 – Do you actually have enough to retire? The ugly numbers 23:25 – Longevity, nursing homes & government rule changes 26:16 – Distraction, dependence & quiet confiscation of wealth 30:19 – So what about cash flow & who should teach kids money? 👉 Ready to stop being the boiled frog and start building real cash flow? Get your copy of Building Your Warehouse of Wealth and learn how to take control of your banking and retirement strategy. 📚 Grab the book & learn more: 🌐 https://www.farmingwithoutthebank.com... 📩 Questions? Email Mary Jo: [email protected] 📅 Already have your books? Make sure you schedule your appointment with Mary Jo or John to go through your questions and see if this is the right next step for you.

Controlling the Banking Function in Your Life to Change Your Finacial Future! You might be saving 10% of your income… but quietly sending 34.5% of every disposable dollar to banks in interest. In this episode, Mary Jo breaks down Chapter 3 of Building Your Warehouse of Wealth and shows why how money flows is more important than the rate of return you're chasing. 👉 Follow Mary Jo Here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXYvzroUouEMsTGKFw5nJHQ  👉 Get the book: https://www.farmingwithoutthebank.com/book  Using Nelson Nash's "All-American Family," we walk through where your money actually goes, why banks always win under the current system, and how using properly-structured whole life policies can help you take back the banking function—without needing to be rich to start. 💡 What you'll learn in this episode ◦ Why now is the best time to start your own "warehouse of wealth" ◦ The idea that there is only one pool of money and how it really flows ◦ How banks turn your deposits into multiple dollars of loans ◦ The shocking 34.5 cents of every dollar most families pay in interest ◦ Why the volume of interest matters more than the interest rate ◦ How big premiums (not "pennies") create real, usable cash value ◦ When you should NOT start a policy (and why high credit card debt is a red flag) ◦ Why policy loans must be repaid—so you don't "steal from your own warehouse" ⏱️ Chapters 00:00 Start Now: Why Waiting Costs You 01:06 One Pool of Money & The Flow of Cash 03:43 How Banks Multiply Your Dollar (Fractional Reserve) 08:03 The All-American Spending Pattern Breakdown 12:28 Volume of Interest vs Interest Rate (The Real Problem) 20:21 Using Whole Life as Your Personal Banking System 25:39 When Debt Stops You & How to Get Ready to Start 🔑 Key takeaways ◦ Money must flow, or it's worthless—saving without a plan for flow doesn't fix the problem. ◦ The average family is saving little but paying massive interest to other people's banks. ◦ It's not about getting a higher rate on the tiny amount you save—it's about regaining control of the banking function in your life. ◦ You don't need to be rich to start; you just need to start correctly and think differently. ◦ If you're buried in credit card debt, the first step is cleaning that up, not starting a policy and then never paying it back. 👉 Ready to see if you can start your own "warehouse of wealth"? Read the book and schedule a conversation with Mary Jo or John, and find out where the money is hiding in your cash flow and how to get started comfortably. 👉 New here? ◦ Subscribe for more episodes on infinite banking and Nelson Nash's concepts ◦ Like this video if it helped you think differently about money ◦ Share it with someone who keeps chasing "high returns" while drowning in payments 📚 Books to read: Becoming Your Own Banker – R. Nelson Nash https://www.farmingwithoutthebank.com... Building Your Warehouse of Wealth – R. Nelson Nash https://www.farmingwithoutthebank.com... 🗓️ Talk with Mary Jo or John: Read the book and schedule a call: https://www.withoutthebank.com/contac... 📩 Email Mary Jo: [email protected]

Banks classify your life insurance as an asset, so why do so many people treat it like an expense?  In this episode, we break down how dividend-paying whole life can be your warehouse of wealth without feeding inflation like the banking system does. 👉 Follow Mary Jo Here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXYvzroUouEMsTGKFw5nJHQ  👉 Get the book: https://www.farmingwithoutthebank.com/book  Chapter 1 of Building Your Warehouse of Wealth (Nelson Nash) hits hard: government programs, fractional reserve banking, and how we've become "part of the problem" by chasing cheap loans and rates of return.  We contrast banks (who lend money that doesn't exist) with mutual life insurance companies (who don't inflate money and invest conservatively).  You'll learn why policy loans aren't withdrawals, why whole life beats UL/IUL/VUL for guarantees and control, and how to classify your policy correctly... as an asset with liquidity, control, and a tax-advantaged end-of-life benefit. Key Takeaways: ◦ Classify correctly: Whole life is an asset, not an expense. ◦ Banks vs Insurers: Banks inflate; mutual insurers don't. ◦ Policy loans ≠ withdrawals: Your cash value keeps compounding while you borrow against it. ◦ Owner priority: You outrank every other borrower for your policy's cash value. ◦ Avoid rate-chasing: UL/IUL/VUL = non-guaranteed costs and moving parts; IBC prioritizes liquidity, control, and guarantees. ◦ Don't be part of the problem: Think twice about HELOCs/premium financing/velocity banking to fund policies. Chapters: 00:00 Asset or Expense? Reframing Life Insurance 01:17 Nelson's Roots & the IBC Basics 02:24 Government, Banks & Fractional Reserve 05:56 What Really Drives Inflation 08:26 Are We Part of the Problem? (Loans & Leverage) 12:16 How Insurers Invest + Why It Matters 15:37 Policy Loans 101: Borrowing vs Withdrawing Want to build your own warehouse of wealth the right way? 👉 Grab the book/bundle and follow along with the study: 📘 https://www.farmingwithoutthebank.com/book 

Are you waiting on an inheritance, a government program, or the bank to finally let you farm "for real"? In this episode, Mary Jo shows how that thinking is exactly what's holding you back, and how Nelson Nash warned us about it years ago. 👉 Follow Mary Jo Here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXYvzroUouEMsTGKFw5nJHQ  👉 Get the book: https://www.farmingwithoutthebank.com/book  In Episode 329, Mary Jo dives into Nelson Nash's second book, "Building Your Warehouse of Wealth," and unpacks why how you think about money, wealth, and government programs determines everything about your financial future.  From government "police actions" to farm programs and waiting on Mom & Dad's land, she connects Nelson's ideas, Austrian economics, and real farm/ranch stories to show why the top 3% think — and act — differently. If you've ever said, "Farming is too hard," "I'll never get a chance without the bank," or "I'm just waiting for my share," this episode is your wake-up call. Key Takeaways ◦ How you think is everything – your mindset around money and wealth literally dictates your results. ◦ Government programs change behavior and keep people standing in line for handouts instead of producing. ◦ Jealousy kills curiosity – as soon as you resent someone successful, you stop asking how they did it. ◦ Top 3% vs the 97% – the top performers are actively learning, reading, traveling, and thinking for themselves. ◦ Stop waiting for inheritance – go lease ground, get an off-farm job, build your own base instead of hoping. ◦ Infinite Banking is a concept first, numbers second – Nelson's second book is all about changing how you think. ◦ You become what you think about – Earl Nightingale, Nelson Nash, and basic human behavior all agree on this. Chapters 00:00 – Nobody cares about you more than you (and why that matters) 01:03 – Nelson Nash's second book: Building Your Warehouse of Wealth 04:35 – Korean "police action," government language & how we're taught to think 08:37 – "You become what you think about" (Earl Nightingale, pilots & Al Capone) 11:17 – Jealousy vs curiosity: TikTok farmer, excuses, and the 3% who actually change 17:42 – Top 3% vs 97%: farming is "hard"… and why some win anyway 19:20 – Stop waiting for the farm: building your own wealth & farming future 23:43 – What to read next & how to work with Mary Jo (Timestamps are from the video version. Audio-only edits are always shorter since they have had more fluff removed, so the timestamps are not accurate to this version.) 👉 Ready to see if Infinite Banking works for your farm or ranch? ⓵ Get the books & bundles: 📚 https://www.farmingwithoutthebank.com/book  ⓶ Read the book before you book a call – that's how we make sure you're in the thinking 3%, not the complaining 97%. ⓷ Set up your appointment (link will be in your email), and let's see if this concept fits your operation. Even if we don't end up working together, you'll walk away with a better way to think about money, wealth, and your farm future. Resources Mentioned "Building Your Warehouse of Wealth" – Nelson Nash "Economics in One Lesson" – Henry Hazlitt Earl Nightingale – "The Strangest Secret" Words & Numbers Podcast FEE (Foundation for Economic Education) / Austrian Economics resources

Most people think policy loans mean "borrowing your own money." That's completely wrong, and it's costing them big. In this episode, Mary Jo breaks down exactly how policy loans work inside Infinite Banking and why understanding the difference can change how you build wealth. 👉 Follow Mary Jo Here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXYvzroUouEMsTGKFw5nJHQ  👉 Get the book: https://www.farmingwithoutthebank.com/book  In this deep dive, Mary Jo explains why you're borrowing the life insurance company's money, not your own, when using policy loans, and how that lets your cash value keep earning uninterrupted compound interest and dividends. She also addresses common misconceptions some accountants have, what's actually deductible, and why using this strategy helps reduce inflation by keeping dollars out of the fractional-reserve banking system. If you've ever wondered whether you "pay to borrow your own money," this episode clears it up once and for all. 🧭 Key Takeaways: ◦ You're borrowing against your policy, not from it. ◦ The interest goes to the insurance company, not back into your policy. ◦ You still earn compound interest + dividends while using that money. ◦ Accountants often misunderstand how policy loans and deductions work. ◦ Using Infinite Banking helps you leverage dollars and avoid inflating the currency. ⏱️ Chapters: 00:00 – Welcome & Today's Topic 02:30 – The Big Infinite Banking Misconception 05:10 – Borrowing the Insurance Company's Money 08:30 – Accountants, Interest, and Tax Deductions 13:00 – How This Strategy Fights Inflation 16:30 – Uninterrupted Compound Interest in Action 19:00 – Why Understanding Leverage Matters 20:00 – Harvest Sale + Final Thoughts (Timestamps are from the video version. Audio-only edits are always shorter since they have had more fluff removed, so the timestamps are not accurate to this version.) 👍 Like this episode if it cleared up a myth about policy loans 💬 Comment your biggest "aha!" moment below 📲 Subscribe for more Infinite Banking education and strategies 📚 Mentioned Links: 📘 Grab your book and check out the Harvest Sale: https://www.farmingwithoutthebank.com/book  📧 Contact Mary Jo with your questions: [email protected]

Kyle Busch just sued Pacific Life Insurance for $8.58 million, claiming he was misled by an Indexed Universal Life (IUL) policy. But what if this high-profile case proves everything Infinite Banking practitioners have warned about for years? 👉 Follow Mary Jo Here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXYvzroUouEMsTGKFw5nJHQ  👉 Get the book: https://www.farmingwithoutthebank.com/book  In this episode of Without the Bank, Mary Jo breaks down the Kyle Busch life insurance lawsuit, exposing how IULs are often mis-sold and why dividend-paying whole life insurance is still the gold standard for Infinite Banking. She dives into: ◦ Why IULs, VULs, and ULs collapse faster than you think ◦ The truth behind "guaranteed" returns and hidden policy fees ◦ What Nelson Nash really meant by "dividend-paying whole life" ◦ How to read your own in-force illustration and spot red flags If you own an Indexed Universal Life policy, or are thinking of buying one, this episode could save you thousands. Audio Podcast Episodes Farming Without The Bank   Ep. 327a    Without The Bank Ep. 242a Key Takeaways ◦ Kyle Busch's lawsuit highlights systemic problems in how IULs are sold. ◦ Whole life and IUL are not the same thing. ◦ Infinite Banking only works with dividend-paying whole life, not market-tied policies. ◦ Always request an in-force illustration at 4% to test your policy's strength. ◦ Education beats marketing.  Understand what you're buying before you sign. Chapters 00:00 – The Problem with Bad Insurance Sales 01:21 – Kyle Busch's $8.5M IUL Lawsuit Explained 03:34 – IUL vs Whole Life: What Agents Don't Tell You 06:03 – Hidden Fees, Failing Policies, and False Promises 08:26 – Why This Case Proves Infinite Banking Works 12:19 – The Real Lesson from Becoming Your Own Banker 17:16 – How to Check (and Fix) Your Own Life Insurance (Timestamps are from the video version. Audio-only edits are always shorter since they have had more fluff removed, so the timestamps are not accurate to this version.) 👉 Have an IUL or UL policy? Send your in-force illustration to Mary Jo for a review. Email: [email protected] 👉 Subscribe for more episodes breaking down Infinite Banking truths and exposing insurance myths. 👍 Like, comment, and share this video if you believe in consumer protection and financial education! 🔗 Links Mentioned 📘 Books: https://www.farmingwithoutthebank.com/book  👩‍💼 Work with Mary Jo: https://www.farmingwithoutthebank.com/contact/ 

Bitcoin fans say it's the future. I say: show me how it actually solves real-world money problems. In this episode, I walk through the biggest unanswered questions I still have about Bitcoin: volatility, inheritance keys, "who's in charge," government visibility, and why I still prefer AND assets like dividend-paying whole life over OR assets like BTC. 👉 Follow Mary Jo Here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXYvzroUouEMsTGKFw5nJHQ  👉 Get the book: https://www.farmingwithoutthebank.com/book  Prompted by a listener (thanks, Todd!), I listened to a Bitcoin proponent debate and wrote down the sticking points I can't get past. If Bitcoin is limited, why do explanations sound inflationary?  If it's infinitely divisible, how is that different from a devalued currency? If most people don't even understand the dollar, how do we get mass adoption of a new money system?  How do I plan a purchase in 5 years with that level of volatility? What about lost keys and inheritance? And if the government can track blockchain activity and tax capital gains, how does this "stop tyranny"?  I compare Bitcoin to gold/silver and outline why I prefer cash-flowing, contractually guaranteed strategies—especially Infinite Banking. Key Takeaways: ◦ Value = belief. If 97% don't understand money now, mass BTC adoption is a stretch. ◦ Volatility breaks planning. It's hard to budget for real purchases with wide swings. ◦ Bitcoin behaves like an OR asset; I prefer AND assets that can grow while being used. ◦ Inheritance risk is real: lose the key, lose the asset. ◦ Government visibility & taxes exist—so "off grid" claims don't really hold. ◦ Cross-border payments are a useful perk—but fees and frictions can creep in over time. ◦ Insurance companies and banks avoid BTC due to volatility and lack of cash flow. Chapters: 00:00 Cold open: "Who's running Bitcoin?" creator, mining & control 01:01 Shoutout to Todd & why this episode exists 02:58 Can BTC be a supplementary medium of exchange? 03:27 Ground rules: why I'm open—but unconvinced 04:39 "Limited" yet "inflationary"? Divisibility vs. value 05:31 Nelson Nash lens: "If dollars are worthless, why trade BTC for them?" 07:16 Value = belief; most people don't understand money 10:06 Volatility vs. planning for real purchases 12:57 Invest in what you know; AND asset vs. OR asset 14:00 Lost keys & inheritance problems 14:58 Will BTC stop tyranny? IBC, voting & policy matter more 16:06 Govt tracking, capital gains & "digital money" already here 17:21 Why insurers/banks avoid BTC (volatility, no cash flow) 18:50 Who's in charge? Mining, outages & resilience 20:10 The one valid perk: cross-border transfers (for now) 20:59 Trust, fees & centralization concerns 21:27 Dollar strength, crash talk & practical money use 23:04 Crypto dilution: too many coins, weaker adoption 24:19 "Explain it like I'm five"—if it's too complex, that's a risk 25:12 CTA: Want guarantees and an AND asset? Start with IBC (Timestamps are from the video version. Audio-only edits are always shorter since they have had more fluff removed, so the timestamps are not accurate to this version.) → Want a strategy you can plan around? Start your Infinite Banking journey today. → Grab the Farming Without the Bank book and schedule your appointment to get set up. → Comment with your best Bitcoin arguments—especially on planning, inheritance, and governance. • Farming Without the Bank book & consult:  https://www.farmingwithoutthebank.com/book  • Podcast home page:  https://www.farmingwithoutthebank.com/podcasts 

Why do so many people say, "Whole life insurance never works"? Let's unpack that. In this episode, Mary Jo takes on online critics who claim infinite banking doesn't work and reveals why most people making these comments haven't even done their homework. 👉 Follow Mary Jo Here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXYvzroUouEMsTGKFw5nJHQ  👉 Get the book: https://www.farmingwithoutthebank.com/book/  Mary Jo shares personal stories, lessons from Nelson Nash, and her own journey from being labeled "learning disabled" to becoming a teacher who helps thousands understand money in a different way. If you've ever wondered whether the Infinite Banking Concept (IBC) really helps people make financial progress, this episode will open your eyes. 🎯 Key Takeaways: ◦ Why people misunderstand Infinite Banking and Whole Life Insurance ◦ How assumptions and "keyboard warriors" cloud financial discussions ◦ The role of human nature and mindset in financial success ◦ Lessons from Nelson Nash about honesty, discipline, and being your own banker ◦ How critical thinking and open-minded learning lead to real wealth ⏱️ Chapters: 00:00 – Welcome & New Studio 02:10 – Reading & Responding to Online Comments 05:30 – "Whole Life Insurance Never Helps" – Debunking the Myth 09:00 – The Learning Disabled Label & Becoming a Teacher 14:20 – Why People Don't Understand Infinite Banking 18:45 – Human Nature & Why Policies Fail 24:00 – Judging Others' Finances Without Knowing Their Numbers 30:10 – Regenerative Agriculture & Financial Parallels 35:50 – Keeping Your Eye on Your Own Bobber 41:00 – Keyboard Warriors & Online Hate 47:00 – Why We Don't Talk About Money (and Why We Should) 52:00 – Being Open-Minded About Finance (and Bitcoin) 57:30 – Final Thoughts & Call to Action (Timestamps are from the video version. Audio-only edits are always shorter since they have had more fluff removed, so the timestamps are not accurate to this version.) 📅 Read the book? Schedule your appointment with Mary Jo or John today at [email protected] 💬 Have a podcast topic idea? Drop it in the comments below! 👍 Like this episode if you learned something new, and subscribe for more no-nonsense financial education. 📘 Links Mentioned: 💡 Get the book: https://www.farmingwithoutthebank.com/book 🌾 Canada version: https://www.ranchyourway.com  🎓 Learn from Nelson Nash: https://infinitebanking.org 

When Dave Ramsey told a 20-year-old rancher he made a "huge mistake" buying $100,000 in cattle, we had some thoughts. Spoiler: Dave doesn't understand agriculture, leverage, or infinite banking. 👉 Follow Mary Jo Here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXYvzroUouEMsTGKFw5nJHQ  👉 Get the book: https://www.farmingwithoutthebank.com/book/  In this fiery episode #324 of Farming Without the Bank, Mary Jo Irmen and John dive deep into a recent Dave Ramsey clip that went viral — a 20-year-old caller buys $100K in cattle, and Dave loses it. Mary Jo and John break down why the young man's decision wasn't reckless at all; it was smart business. They explain how proper use of leverage, cash flow, and infinite banking can make or break a farm or ranch operation. If you've ever been told "debt is evil" or "cash only is the way," this episode will challenge everything you thought you knew about farm finance. 💡 Key Takeaways: ◦ Why Dave Ramsey's blanket financial advice doesn't work for farmers or ranchers ◦ The truth about using leverage in agriculture ◦ How infinite banking can replace CDs and traditional loans ◦ Why business owners must understand cash flow, not just "debt-free living" ◦ How to use banks strategically — not avoid them completely ⏱️ Chapters: 00:00 – The problem with Dave Ramsey's cattle advice 03:00 – Why college debt ≠ business investment 06:00 – The $100K cattle example explained 10:00 – Infinite Banking vs. CDs 14:00 – Understanding cash-flowing assets in agriculture 20:00 – The myth of "no debt ever" 24:00 – When to use bank leverage smartly 27:00 – Real-life client success stories 32:00 – Final thoughts: what farmers should really do (Timestamps are from the video version. Audio-only edits are always shorter since they have had more fluff removed, so the timestamps are not accurate to this version.) 💬 Have questions about infinite banking for your farm or ranch? Email Mary Jo: [email protected] Links Mentioned: 📘 Grab the Farming Without the Bank book and start building your own financial system today. https://www.farmingwithoutthebank.com/book/