But Also with Michael and Asher

Jason Selvig of The Good Liars joins Michael and Asher to compare basketball injuries, then reports from the Trump rallies on what really drove the midterm blue wave. Plus: Trump’s inevitable Vegas residency, a simulation theory debate that sends Michael to hell, and a full-throated case for meditation.00:00:00 Welcome Jason Selvig of The Good Liars00:00:22 Playing through pain00:04:01 Broken elbow at Cooper Park00:06:24 Thrown off Psycho T's back00:08:57 Jason's crooked nose (thanks, Bulldog)00:12:36 Split eyelids and the weakest injury story00:16:36 The midterms, and a better segue00:17:10 How basketball created The Good Liars00:18:23 What Jason heard at the rallies00:20:12 Would we take Kalshi money?00:23:49 Data centers and dystopian subway ads00:25:30 Did the blue wave happen for the right reasons?00:28:51 Was it all gas prices?00:32:20 What The Good Liars actually do00:35:34 Biden 2028 (you've been Good Lied)00:37:07 Picking a 2028 nominee00:40:43 Bad candidates and Herschel Walker00:46:29 Prediction: Trump's Vegas residency00:49:51 "We're here for the show"00:51:15 Nicki Minaj00:52:01 Are rallies still fun?00:54:39 Who runs next?00:57:29 When did politics get this stupid?01:01:30 Is this helping? Soul off, soul on01:06:11 TikTok thieves and AI fakes01:11:13 The last night of the world01:13:40 Simulation theory gets heated01:21:32 Trump as the main character01:26:07 Red pill or blue pill?01:28:54 Asher's contacts and asymmetrical faces01:30:59 Jason needs glasses01:35:54 Full-throated endorsement: meditation01:40:54 Vipassana and silent retreats01:42:31 OutroSupport the showBut Also is Produced and Edited by Suite Tea Studio  

Jenny Hagel (Late Night with Seth Meyers, Jenny Hagel Gives Advice) joins Michael and Asher to talk Instagram algorithms, attachment theory (round 2!), and first-grade soccer in Puerto Rico.00:00:00 Cold open00:00:30 Welcome Jenny Hagel00:00:50 NYC's weirdly specific high schools (Harbor School)00:03:55 Learning "facts" from Instagram00:05:35 Why lesbians love attachment theory00:06:35 Jenny Hagel Gives Advice (the live show)00:09:25 What's in your algorithm?00:13:10 Asher's pull-up demo00:16:05 News fatigue and working at Late Night00:20:10 Screen time limits and tricks for self-control00:23:00 Flossing, gum grafts and horsehair toothbrushes00:28:00 What does a late night writer actually do all day?00:30:20 Never playing sports as a kid00:33:35 First grade soccer and growing up Puerto Rican00:38:00 Our parents and how we parent00:41:15 Cool things we learned on Instagram (pitching, dribbling)00:44:10 The Capeman and In the Heights00:46:10 "If I win the lottery, you'll never see me again"00:53:10 The hedonic treadmill00:54:45 The Goodnight Moon fortune00:59:10 It's Raining Fish and Late Night Trash01:04:45 Michael doesn't follow anyone on Instagram01:09:10 What's the point of what you do?01:12:40 Jokes Seth Can't Tell01:14:40 Full-Throated Endorsement: How to Hide an Empire01:20:45 Wrap-upSupport the showBut Also is Produced and Edited by Suite Tea Studio  

Margaret Hoover, host of Firing Line on PBS, joins Michael and Asher to talk about working Hurricane Katrina from inside the Bush White House, how the Republican Party went off the rails, and confronting Bill O'Reilly on her own show.00:00:00 Cold Open00:00:18 Giuliani Water and Kidney Stones00:04:24 Morphine, Propofol, and Not Sleeping00:09:29 Wikipedia Pages and Family Fact Checks00:11:56 Security Clearance and Homeland Security00:14:09 Hurricane Katrina from the White House00:19:35 Herbert Hoover's Theory of Government00:24:29 Great-Grandpa Hoover and Leaving the GOP00:26:29 How the Bush White House Went Off the Rails00:32:01 Understanding Evangelical Voters00:34:55 Trump-Voting Family and Relatable Politicians00:40:32 Bill O'Reilly and the Disgraced Men's Corner00:46:08 Interviewing Marjorie Taylor Greene00:49:43 Thom Tillis and the King's New Clothes00:55:08 Fixing Congress and Running for Office00:59:15 Grief, Family, and Slowing Down01:03:13 Quirky New York and Colorado Sports01:06:42 Competitive Swimming01:11:41 TV, Books, and Endless Organizing01:18:03 Recommendation: Ted Lasso Season 401:22:08 OutroSupport the showBut Also is Produced and Edited by Suite Tea Studio  

Chloe Troast (Furious, SNL) joins Michael and Asher to talk about being the new kid at SNL, small planes, and her only shopping experience at Paragon Sports. Plus, a full-throated endorsement of a tiny ice cream maker.00:00:00 Cold Open00:00:14 Being the New Kid at SNL00:00:42 Paragon Sports00:04:22 The Swimming Situationship00:11:57 Chloe's Watery Death Wish00:12:32 Was JFK Jr Asking For It?00:19:04 Insulting Doppelgangers00:25:30 Think About A Phone...00:28:32 Chloe Troast, Former Painting Class Model00:32:54 Why Asher Draws00:34:40 Getting Recognized In Public00:43:02 Musical Theater Kid Alert00:47:33 Minored in Middle Eastern Studies00:52:44 Michael Tutored Saida00:55:04 Being the New Kid at SNL01:00:30 Leaving SNL01:10:43 Chloe in Furious01:14:25 Full Throated Endorsement: Tiny Ice Cream MakerSupport the showBut Also is Produced and Edited by Suite Tea Studio  

Eliana Kwartler (Late Show with Stephen Colbert) is the guest Asher and Michael thought they had to prepare the least for. We chat attachment theory, the school essay she wrote about 9/11, and what (if anything) she misses about dating men. 00:00:00 Cold Open00:00:21 Welcome Eliana Kwartler00:01:14 Childhood Nicknames00:03:06 Bullied, or the Bully?00:09:57 Attachment Theory and "Attached"00:16:05 Guessing Everyone's Attachment Style00:20:31 Should Parents Control the Curriculum?00:25:50 Philosophy Class: Turtles All the Way Down00:29:29 Mary Oliver's "The Journey," From Memory00:36:19 Reciting The Raven and Hamlet00:38:07 Asher's Thousand Guinea Pigs00:41:03 The Aunt Who Burned Down the House00:43:30 Eliana's 9/11 Essay at Age Seven00:46:52 Living Through History00:50:17 Low Rise, Wide Leg00:54:33 Where Does the Butt Crack Go?00:59:07 Michael's Abu Dhabi Romper01:01:25 Getting Naked in Restaurant Bathrooms01:07:37 Anything Good About Dating Men?01:12:50 Are Marvel Movies Straight Man Coded?01:22:00 Full-Throated Endorsement: Custom Earplugs01:27:03 OutroSupport the showBut Also is Produced and Edited by Suite Tea Studio  

Paul Dinello (Strangers with Candy, Exit 57) stops by to discuss lifting calves, Psycho-Biddy films, and the Beatles Vs Bob Dylan. 00:00:00 Cold Open00:00:30 Intro and Housekeeping00:01:32 Rocco vs. the Inflatable Chef00:04:03 Can Alley: When Annoying Noises Become Funny00:08:04 Rocco at The Late Show00:10:35 Life After The Late Show00:12:41 The Lindsay Lohan Oreo Commercial00:16:04 Streaming Ads and the Pause Ad00:19:44 Paul's Wikipedia Quote00:22:38 Pull-Up Showdown00:27:30 Getting Older and Forgetting Names00:31:44 "I Have to Check With My Wife"00:35:44 Milo and the Calf00:40:33 The Milking Farm00:43:37 Beatles vs. Dylan00:47:16 Lovely Rita, Meter Maid00:49:22 Marcus Aurelius' Meditations00:54:31 Confidence00:59:25 Fear of Failure and Writing to Deadline01:02:14 Writing vs. Performing and the Joy of Collaboration01:06:38 Full Throated Endorsement: Psycho-Biddy Movies01:12:41 OutroSupport the showBut Also is Produced and Edited by Suite Tea Studio  

Comedian Liza Treyger (Survival of the Thickest) joins Michael and Asher to talk about getting kicked by a stunt horse and which cartoon characters audiences most want to sleep with. 00:00:00 Cold Open00:00:22 Welcome Liza Treyger00:00:35 The Super on the Ladder00:03:48 Hamptons Birthday Weekend00:05:31 Heads Up, Wavelength, and Game Night00:09:28 Birthday Dinner and the Best Guinness in NYC00:12:18 Dance Nights and the Dreaded Dance Circle00:16:48 Cigarette Phases 00:19:08 Spice Girls Birthday00:20:45 Chicago on Broadway and the Best Year Ever00:23:14 Arthur Chains, Labubus, and Cute Dogs00:27:10 Dogs conversation continued from earlier episodes00:29:05 Cartoon Crushes00:32:18 Getting Kicked by a Stunt Horse00:35:00 Liza vs. the AI Guys00:37:14 AI at the Doctor's Office00:40:17 Will AI Replace Art?00:48:46 Deleted Reviews00:51:54 Sponsored Results, Surveillance Pricing, and Self-Checkout00:57:43 The Regulars01:00:50 Full-Throated Endorsement: Reading Books01:08:17 Backgammon with PoSupport the showBut Also is Produced and Edited by Suite Tea Studio  

Comedian George Civeris (StraightioLab, A Sense of Urgency) joins Michael and Asher to talk chronic health mysteries, hair loss science, and why Materialists secretly rules. 00:00 Cold Open00:28 Welcome George01:11 Minoxidil and Family Hair Genetics02:54 George's Laundry List of Medical Problems06:45 Hair Transplants, Bad Plugs, and Political Bald Spots16:06 Hair Systems and the Patreon GoFundMe20:00 Materialists vs Past Lives22:55 Mortal Kombat 2 and the Case for Fun Bad Movies26:41 Ranking the Best Picture Noms Gay to Straight30:20 Prescreening Movies for Mom32:01 Whatever Happened to Dodgeball Era Comedy35:07 Is Game Night a Straight Movie?38:43 The Gay Game Night Remake and Orchard Project Memories41:56 George's Writer Not Actor Origin Story43:08 Respecting Acting as a Craft48:27 Touring Chaos: Green Rooms and Sound Checks53:54 Segments, Episode Length, and Favorite Podcasts1:01:46 Full Throated vs Mid Throated Endorsements1:03:19 Mid Throat Endorsements: Drinks, Lotion, and Microplastics1:12:47 Structured Hangouts vs Just Vibing1:14:19 George's Full Throated Endorsement: Standup Specials1:17:47 OutroSupport the showBut Also is Produced and Edited by Suite Tea Studio  

Harvey Guillén (What We Do in the Shadows, Rocky Horror on Broadway) joins Michael and Asher for a real romp.  They alo get into rat sympathy, learning Wicked in Japanese, a spider infested computer, and Harvey's Netflix true crime podcast Killer Stories.00:00 Cold Open00:31 Housekeeping & Show Plugs01:37 Meet Harvey Guillén02:17 Covid on Watch What Happens Live03:13 Broadway Understudies & Swings06:04 Musical Theater School Stories08:26 Central Park Breakdancers & Talent vs. Tenacity11:04 Strict School Rules & the Late Policy18:11 Aikido Spanking Stories21:04 First Gig: Moving to Japan27:22 Covid on Set with Susan Sarandon32:42 Moving to NYC, LA, and Landing "Huge"38:28 Broadway: The Hardest Job & Rocky Horror41:44 The "You Look Great" Backhanded Compliment47:11 If You Give a Mouse a Cookie & Rat Sympathy52:11 The Spider Infested Computer54:54 Do Flies Wash Their Hands?56:15 The Orphan Sloth Video & Sherie Rene Scott60:24 What's Next: Action Roles on Shadows62:28 Killer Stories: Harvey's True Crime Podcast66:41 Is New York Actually Scary?72:00 Full Throated Endorsement: Seafood BoilSupport the showBut Also is Produced and Edited by Suite Tea Studio  

Rachel Abrams (co-host of The Daily) joins the podcast to finally settle the debate: was E.T. slimy or dry? She also talks about her journey to becoming a host of The Daily, and gives a full-throated endorsement of the chicken at Medieval Times.00:00:00 Cold Open: The Rocky Raccoon Weather Bit00:00:28 Welcome to But Also, With Guest Rachel Abrams00:01:03 Rachel's 17 Years in Journalism, From Variety to the Times00:04:12 The Moonves Investigation and the Source Who Lost Everything00:06:49 How Rachel Became a Host of The Daily00:08:43 Michael's Wife Thinks Rachel Hosts The Daily Show00:10:58 The Fake 49ers Player Scammer00:12:18 Only Recognized as "Michael Barbaro"00:14:38 The Craft of Sounding Natural on the Radio00:19:10 Unconventional Paths Into the New York Times00:23:18 Ira Glass's Advice on Leaning Into Humor00:25:22 Finding Humor in Dark and Serious Stories00:32:48 The Philosophy of Comedy and Truth00:34:10 Segment: The Daily Quiz00:40:36 Google Thinks Rachel Abrams Is Dead00:41:15 Party Tricks: Presidents and Days of the Week00:50:17 Rachel's Childhood Radio Career00:52:33 Life After Late Night and Chasing Comedy Jobs00:58:35 Ayahuasca, MDMA, and Psychedelic Confessions01:04:15 Full Throated Endorsement: Medieval Times Chicken01:10:37 Was E.T. Wet or Dry? The Spielberg Story01:13:45 OutroSupport the showBut Also is Produced and Edited by Suite Tea Studio