Why Will No One Date These Guys?

It's been a long run but the podcasting police finally caught up to us for our many crimes and are forcing us on hiatus. This may not be the end of the podcast formally, but we are putting this on the backburner for the near future as Joel moves into a new career and Naomi...does more surfing or something. All credit to Disney for use of part of the Avengers Endgame Portals theme. Hey, this is crazy and completely unintentional, but Joel discovered that his favorite track from Lilo and Stitch and that Avengers theme were both composed (or at least credited to) Alan Silvestri of Disney fame. Is Joel's taste in movies more shallow than he would like? Probably? Are they good, emotionally poignant tracks? Definitely. The Ketsa theme we've been using doesn't really portray endings well - Joel thinks Daft Punk's Touch is actually a far better song to go out on but wanted to avoid copyright strikes. DTG despises genocide and continue to support people fighting all forms of it. We're still making monthly donations to local trans funds and have now started doing the same for Palestine support. Send proof to our email that you made a donation to fight any kind of genocide and we'll send you some stuff in appreciation. Consider some of the following:UN Relief and Works Agency - Desperately needs money since the US and several Western nations cut off funding.Islamic Relief USAWorld Food ProgramHealPalestineSupport the show

Joel and Naomi wrap up Intimate Matters by talking about same-sex relationships in the 19th and 20th century (including the Wild West!),  Margaret Sanger and the contraceptive revolution, and the impact the Kinsey report had on both law and media before, during, and after its release. If it sounds like Joel was choking back his words for 90% of the episode...that's because he was coming down from a cold and stopping every 2 minutes to cough. Clever editing cut most of that out...but his intonation and pacing for most of this episode is pretty weird. Feel free to make fun of him for that.  Find a copy of the book here.DTG despises genocide and continue to support people fighting all forms of it. We're still making monthly donations to local trans funds and have now started doing the same for Palestine support. Send proof to our email that you made a donation to fight any kind of genocide and we'll send you some stuff in appreciation. Consider some of the following:UN Relief and Works Agency - Desperately needs money since the US and several Western nations cut off funding.Islamic Relief USAWorld Food ProgramHealPalestineWe are now recording through Zencaster and producing both video and transcripts of each episode. Find those on our Patreon when we remember to upload. Support the show

Joel and Naomi get back together to continue discussing Intimate Matters. In this section we talk more about community regulation of vice, how "queer" behavior was punished but also strangely tolerated by early settlers, the "duty" of sex in relationhips, how 17th century Enlightenment ideas radically changed people's perspectives on individual happiness, and how prostitution filled a social vacuum left by wars and new settlement patterns during the same period. Joel also goes on a tear about "The Dawn of Everything," David Graeber's incredible book that covers, among other things, the role Native people's had on influencing European thought in the 17th and 18th centuries. Find a copy of the book here. Find a copy of The Dawn of Everything here. DTG despises genocide and continue to support people fighting all forms of it. We're still making monthly donations to local trans funds and have now started doing the same for Palestine support. Send proof to our email that you made a donation to fight any kind of genocide and we'll send you some stuff in appreciation. Consider some of the following:UN Relief and Works Agency - Desperately needs money since the US and several Western nations cut off funding.Islamic Relief USAWorld Food ProgramHealPalestineWe are now recording through Zencaster and producing both video and transcripts of each episode. Find those on our Patreon when we remember to upload. Support the show

Joel and Naomi get together to discuss a unassuming book no one has ever heard of. Yes, we continue to make smart choices that expand our audience and move us closer to careers of full-time podcasting. Go us!We discuss Intimate Matters, a 1988 book that does an incredible job breaking down the social, political, religious, and economic factors that heavily influenced relationships, family patterns, and sexual behavior throughout American history. In part 1 we go way back to early English colonists and talk about early Protestant ideas about sex, contrasts with Native peoples, how communities helped regulate sexual mores, and the practice of "bundling." Find a copy of the book here.All credit to Cole Porter for Anything Goes. DTG despises genocide and continue to support people fighting all forms of it. We're still making monthly donations to local trans funds and have now started doing the same for Palestine support. Send proof to our email that you made a donation to fight any kind of genocide and we'll send you some stuff in appreciation. Consider some of the following:UN Relief and Works Agency - Desperately needs money since the US and several Western nations cut off funding.Islamic Relief USAWorld Food ProgramHealPalestineWe are now recording through Zencaster and producing both video and transcripts of each episode. Find those on our Patreon when we remember to upload. Support the show

It's been 10 months since we last dropped intimate deals of our lives and lessons we've learned about the world so we felt entitled to share some stuff. Well, actually we had another episode planned but Naomi shared a completely whackadoodle travel story that derailed Joel and Naomi chat about NYC travel to see the Pickle Guys, Joel's new and amazing podcast ideas, Naomi's recent move, and Joel's intimate thoughts about weddings and why no one should ever hold one. Unrelated, but he's getting married soon. DTG despises genocide and continue to support people fighting all forms of it. We're still making monthly donations to local trans funds and have now started doing the same for Palestine support. Send proof to our email that you made a donation to fight any kind of genocide and we'll send you some stuff in appreciation. Consider some of the following:UN Relief and Works Agency - Desperately needs money since the US and several Western nations cut off funding.Islamic Relief USAWorld Food ProgramHealPalestineWe are now recording through Zencaster and producing both video and transcripts of each episode. Find those on our Patreon when we remember to upload. Support the show

Naomi and Joel get together to discuss more kink specifics including some of the kink created by different cultural periods, the kinkiest presidents, and how kink is talked about in media. DTG despises genocide and continue to support people fighting all forms of it. We're still making monthly donations to local trans funds and have now started doing the same for Palestine support. Send proof to our email that you made a donation to fight any kind of genocide and we'll send you some stuff in appreciation. Consider some of the following:UN Relief and Works Agency - Desperately needs money since the US and several Western nations cut off funding.Islamic Relief USAWorld Food ProgramHealPalestineWe are now recording through Zencaster and producing both video and transcripts of each episode. Find those on our Patreon when we remember to upload. Support the show

Naomi and Joel get together to discuss the basics of kink, everything ranging from BDSM to findom to the principles surrounding consent. We also come up with some good movie ideas. The AI companies are crashing and burning and hopefully Hollywood will come crawling back to us eventually. Phoot credit to Anna Shevts on Pexels.com DTG despises genocide and continue to support people fighting all forms of it. We're still making monthly donations to local trans funds and have now started doing the same for Palestine support. Send proof to our email that you made a donation to fight any kind of genocide and we'll send you some stuff in appreciation. Consider some of the following:UN Relief and Works Agency - Desperately needs money since the US and several Western nations cut off funding.Islamic Relief USAWorld Food ProgramHealPalestineWe are now recording through Zencaster and producing both video and transcripts of each episode. Find those on our Patreon when we remember to upload. Support the show

In part 3 we wrap-up our discussion of the Straight State by discussing how military regulations of homosexual behavior in the early 20th century helped shaped queer culture for decades to come.  Find a copy of the book here.DTG despises genocide and continue to support people fighting all forms of it. We're still making monthly donations to local trans funds and have now started doing the same for Palestine support. Send proof to our email that you made a donation to fight any kind of genocide and we'll send you some stuff in appreciation. Consider some of the following:UN Relief and Works Agency - Desperately needs money since the US and several Western nations cut off funding.Islamic Relief USAWorld Food ProgramHealPalestineWe are now recording through Zencaster and producing both video and transcripts of each episode. Find those on our Patreon when we remember to upload. Support the show

In part 2 of the Straight State we discuss the links between queerness and tramp lifestyles in the 1930's, how federal work programs like the FTP and the CCC helped shape public perception of queerness, and how backlash to and support of different forms of social assistance during this era was likely due to concerns about a lack of jobs making people gay. No, seriously. Find a copy of the book here.DTG despises genocide and continue to support people fighting all forms of it. We're still making monthly donations to local trans funds and have now started doing the same for Palestine support. Send proof to our email that you made a donation to fight any kind of genocide and we'll send you some stuff in appreciation. Consider some of the following:UN Relief and Works Agency - Desperately needs money since the US and several Western nations cut off funding.Islamic Relief USAWorld Food ProgramHealPalestineWe are now recording through Zencaster and producing both video and transcripts of each episode. Find those on our Patreon when we remember to upload. Support the Show.Support the show

Joel and Naomi get together to discuss more queer history with this book, a guide to how US government policy in the 19th and 20th century helped shape and reinforce ideas about queerness across America. In this part we discuss Joel's half-remembered recollection of Foucault's History of Sexuality and author Margot Canaday's in-depth discussion of queer immigration policy. Find a copy of the book here. DTG despises genocide and continue to support people fighting all forms of it. We're still making monthly donations to local trans funds and have now started doing the same for Palestine support. Send proof to our email that you made a donation to fight any kind of genocide and we'll send you some stuff in appreciation. Consider some of the following:UN Relief and Works Agency - Desperately needs money since the US and several Western nations cut off funding.Islamic Relief USAWorld Food ProgramHealPalestineWe are now recording through Zencaster and producing both video and transcripts of each episode. Find those on our Patreon when we remember to upload. Support the show