Shame & Public Humiliation: The Five Minutes You Replay for Five Years with Jane I-Chen Liu
Most of us are running a quiet project in the background of our lives: getting rid of our shame.But what if healing isn't about getting rid of shame at all?Jane I-Chen Liu, LMHC, LPCC, SEP, is back for round two, and she starts with a question that turns the whole conversation around: Why do we have to get rid of shame?Instead of trying to push shame away, Jane invites us to learn how to stay with it. Healing becomes less about eliminating shame and more about making peace with it.In this conversation, we explore the shame that comes with having an audience. Jane shares the morning her teacher in Taiwan called her to the front of the class and asked, "Jane, did you clean the desk today?" That single moment led to nightmares for the next 20 years.I share my own experiences too: the free lunch card that told everyone we were poor, wearing the same pair of pants multiple times a week, and pulling my eyelids apart to help my eyes focus so I wouldn't have to wear glasses.Jane, a therapist trained in IFS, EMDR, and Somatic Experiencing, explains how shame can begin as protection, like a mother yelling "stop!" when her child runs into the street. But when that protective response turns into a message of "what's wrong with you?" without anyone helping us regulate afterward, it can become toxic shame.Maybe shame is really a belonging problem.We also explore what happens when judgment is real. People will judge us regardless of what we do, and Jane shares how she learned to navigate the judgment directed at her race, accent, and identity.We discuss why comparison is a dead end, how writing down the thoughts we keep ruminating on can help us feel seen, what Harry Potter and the Cursed Child teaches us about public humiliation, and why vulnerability, not perfection, is what creates connection.And we end with a simple but powerful practice: You are okay. Let your body receive that message, even if only 1% of you believes it right now.As Jane reminds us, we're all practicing how to increase our capacity to be with life's challenges, shame included.This conversation is for you if:You still carry a moment of public shame from years ago.You've done the work, read the books, and listened to the podcasts, but still feel like something must be wrong with you.You try to be perfect so no one has a reason to judge you.You put off therapy until you feel like you can show up a little bit better.ABOUT JANEJane I-Chen Liu, LMHC (WA), LPCC (CA), SEP, is the founder of KareKounseling PLLC, a trauma therapy practice in Lynnwood, Washington, offering telehealth across Washington and California.She helps adults heal childhood wounds, developmental trauma, CPTSD, generational trauma, and toxic shame using EMDR, IFS, and Somatic Experiencing.Website: https://karekounseling.comREADY TO TAKE THE NEXT STEP?Download the FREE handout, 5 Things Shame Resilient People Do Every Day, and start making daily shifts to break the shame cycle that's keeping you stuck.https://adversityrising.com/handoutsBook a free 20-minute discovery call to explore program options and find the support that best fits your needs.https://calendly.com/adversityrising/discovery-callSTAY CONNECTEDSubscribe to the podcast on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, and leave a review to share your thoughts on this episode.Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2AouludJr7EweOkMIN9s42Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/untethering-shame/id1691795543YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdqCNF8lI6hq8U2GNQsAJkQWebsite: https://adversityrising.com