The Need For British Army Cold War Stay-Behind Patrols

CONTENTThe guest today is Dr. Gary Buck, a psychologist and military historian, who uses psychological frameworks to analyze the planning failures of Operation Market Garden. Gary applies the OODA loop and Myers-Briggs personality types to examine why high-level commanders like Montgomery, Browning, and Urquhart made critical errors during the 1944 mission. He suggests that extreme stress and organisational pressure caused leaders to abandon their typical caution for risky, uncharacteristic gambles. The discussion highlights how cognitive biases and personal ambitions led to an overly optimistic plan that relied on luck and ignored stiffening German resistance. Ultimately, the discussion provides a psychological autopsy of how human decision-making processes can derail complex military operations.Gary's book choice on Desert Islands Dits is "Hogfather" by Terry Pratchett. My choice is Gary's Book "A risk too far - A psychological autopsy of the planning for Arnhem".WHERE TO GET OUR DESERT ISLAND DITS BOOK CHOICESMost of our book recommendations can be bought via the Unconventional Soldier Bookshop. 10% of each purchase supports the pod and helps independent book stores on line sales.  "BUY ME A COFFEE"If you want to support the podcast you can buy me a coffee here.SOCIAL MEDIAInstagram @the_unconventional_soldier_pod.Facebook @lateo82. Twitter @TheUCS473.Download these and other platforms via Link Tree.Email us: [email protected]. This episode brought to you in association with ISARR a veteran owned company. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

CONTENTI was saddened to hear this week of the death of Major General Tony Stone CB. The Unconventional Soldier Podcast was created to preserve the history of the Special OP Troop, now known as 4/73 (Special Observation Post) Battery, the British Army's long-range Surveillance and Target Acquisition patrols unit.Tony Stone founded the unit in 1982 and remained one of its strongest supporters throughout both his military career and his retirement. Even towards the end of last year, he was still taking the time to meet successful students coming off the patrols selection course, reflecting his lifelong commitment to the unit and its people.In this episode, we discuss one of the Cold War's most remarkable military concepts: the plan to counter a potential Warsaw Pact invasion of West Germany using stay-behind patrols. We explore how specially selected soldiers would occupy concealed underground observation posts, allowing enemy forces to pass overhead before directing artillery fire onto them. We also discuss the demanding selection process, the unique mindset and technical skills required, and the specialist equipment, MEXE hides and observation posts that made these operations possible.This episode is dedicated to Tony's memory. It is an edited extract from a much longer interview we recorded together in 2020, preserving his firsthand account of the creation of one of the British Army's most unique and secretive capabilities.WHERE TO GET OUR DESERT ISLAND DITS BOOK CHOICESMost of our book recommendations can be bought via the Unconventional Soldier Bookshop. 10% of each purchase supports the pod and helps independent book stores on line sales.  "BUY ME A COFFEE"If you want to support the podcast you can buy me a coffee here.SOCIAL MEDIAInstagram @the_unconventional_soldier_pod.Facebook @lateo82. Twitter @TheUCS473.Download these and other platforms via Link Tree.Email us: [email protected]. This episode brought to you in association with ISARR a veteran owned company. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

CONTENTIn this episode I speak with Steve "Tommo" Thomas, whose remarkable military career took him from being a sailor in the Royal Navy to some of the British Army's most demanding specialist units. After passing both the commando course and P Company, Tommo served with 148 Commando Forward Observation Battery, where he directed naval gunfire and artillery during the Falklands War in some of the campaign's most challenging conditions.The conversation explores his journey through Commando and Parachute selection, his experiences operating alongside elite forces, and his later service with the Stay Behind Special OP Troop in Germany. Designed to operate deep behind Warsaw Pact lines during the Cold War, the unit specialised in long-range surveillance, reconnaissance and target acquisition. Tommo also reflects on the realities of life in Britain's specialist military units, the evolution of surveillance and targeting techniques, the equipment they relied upon, and the mindset required to operate in some of the world's most demanding environments. This is a fascinating first-hand account of an extraordinary career spanning the Falklands War, the Cold War and the world of covert reconnaissance and surveillance.His book choice on Desert Islands Dits is anything by the authors Wilbur Smith or Clive Cussler. My choice is "Falklands Commando" by Hugh McManners.WHERE TO GET OUR DESERT ISLAND DITS BOOK CHOICESMost of our book recommendations can be bought via the Unconventional Soldier Bookshop. 10% of each purchase supports the pod and helps independent book stores on line sales.  "BUY ME A COFFEE"If you want to support the podcast you can buy me a coffee here.SOCIAL MEDIAInstagram @the_unconventional_soldier_pod.Facebook @lateo82. Twitter @TheUCS473.Download these and other platforms via Link Tree.Email us: [email protected]. This episode brought to you in association with ISARR a veteran owned company. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

CONTENTThe guest today is Matthew Addison-Black, a former officer in the Royal Gurkha Rifles, discussing his military career and current psychological research. He explains the history and rigorous selection process of the Gurkhas, highlighting the immense socioeconomic transformation these soldiers experience. The conversation explores military mental health, specifically distinguishing between the fear-based symptoms of PTSD and the value-based wounds of moral injury. Matthew introduces the concept of identity fusion, where a soldier’s sense of self becomes inseparable from their unit, making the transition to civilian life exceptionally difficult. He advocates for deeper self-reflection and specialized support to help veterans navigate the loss of purpose and identity following their service.Matthew's book choice on Desert Islands Dits is "The Far Pavilions" by MM Kaye. My choice is "On The Psychology Of Military Incompetence" by Norman Dixon.His company web site is here About Matthew Addison-Black | Veritas High PerformanceWHERE TO GET OUR DESERT ISLAND DITS BOOK CHOICESMost of our book recommendations can be bought via the Unconventional Soldier Bookshop. 10% of each purchase supports the pod and helps independent book stores on line sales.  "BUY ME A COFFEE"If you want to support the podcast you can buy me a coffee here.SOCIAL MEDIAInstagram @the_unconventional_soldier_pod.Facebook @lateo82. Twitter @TheUCS473.Download these and other platforms via Link Tree.Email us: [email protected]. This episode brought to you in association with ISARR a veteran owned company. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

CONTENTThe guest today is Lilian van Mourik who has been on the podcast before when we discussed the recovery of  wartime Stirling bomber BK716.  On this one we feature her efforts to preserve the unique wartime history of the Dutch polders through her podcast Holland's hidden heroes and touring business Polder Pathways. She describes how the massive reclamation projects that turned sea into land fundamentally altered the environment and the lives of those in isolated fishing villages. These resilient communities also resisted German occupiers by hiding Allied airmen in swampy reed beds while maintaining a defiant local identity. The discussion also highlights the strong remembrance culture in the Netherlands, illustrated by the enduring bonds between British veterans and the families who honor their sacrifices. Lilian also explores the technical and social challenges of living below sea level, connecting past engineering feats to modern concerns about national defense and climate change. Ultimately, our talk serves as a narrative of how a man-made landscape shaped human courage and a lasting legacy of gratitude.Lilian's book choice on Desert Islands Dits is "The Camino” by Anya Niewierra.Follow Lilian on Facebook at Holland’s Hidden Heroes Podcast | Almere | FacebookListen to Holland's Hidden Heroes on Spotify Holland's Hidden Heroes Podcast | Podcast on SpotifyFind Polder Pathways here www.polderpathways.com – 'cause stories matterConnect on LinkedIn here Polder Pathways | LinkedInWHERE TO GET OUR DESERT ISLAND DITS BOOK CHOICESMost of our book recommendations can be bought via the Unconventional Soldier Bookshop. 10% of each purchase supports the pod and helps independent book stores on line sales.  "BUY ME A COFFEE"If you want to support the podcast you can buy me a coffee here.SOCIAL MEDIAInstagram @the_unconventional_soldier_pod.Facebook @lateo82. Twitter @TheUCS473.Download these and other platforms via Link Tree.Email us: [email protected]. This episode brought to you in association with ISARR a veteran owned company. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

CONTENTThe guest today is Rupert Hague-Holmes and we discuss the life of Lieutenant General Sir George Lea, a pivotal figure in British military history who played a central role in the survival of the SAS. The conversation explores Lea’s transition from a non-academic, athletic youth into a distinguished leader who commanded parachute battalions during the Second World War and spearheaded counterinsurgency efforts in Malaya and Borneo. Rupert highlights Lea's unique leadership style, characterised by a refusal to tolerate low standards and a willingness to share the same risks as his men, including combat tree-jumping in the jungle. Rupert argues that Lea was essential in professionalising the Special Air Service, implementing rigorous selection processes and operational infrastructures that remain in use today. Despite his significant influence and diplomatic success in handling sensitive global conflicts, Lea is portrayed as a modest man whose legacy was largely shaped by his integrity and quiet dedication to service.Rupert's book choice on Desert Islands Dits is "Arnhem 1944 The Airborne Battle" by Martin Middlebrook. My choice is Rupert's book on Lea "The Soldiers' General".WHERE TO GET OUR DESERT ISLAND DITS BOOK CHOICESMost of our book recommendations can be bought via the Unconventional Soldier Bookshop. 10% of each purchase supports the pod and helps independent book stores on line sales.  "BUY ME A COFFEE"If you want to support the podcast you can buy me a coffee here.SOCIAL MEDIAInstagram @the_unconventional_soldier_pod.Facebook @lateo82. Twitter @TheUCS473.Download these and other platforms via Link Tree.Email us: [email protected]. This episode brought to you in association with ISARR a veteran owned company. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

CONTENTThe guest today is Graham Goulden a much sought after international speaker, leadership and violence prevention trainer. For thirty years he was a Scottish police officer specialising in criminal investigation, drug investigation, training, and crime prevention. For the last eight years of his career, he was a Chief Inspector and a key member of the Scottish Violence Reduction Unit. It was during this time that Graham was able to put right what had become an occurring issue for him during his policing career. Often, when interviewing people who had witnessed abuse and violence, Graham was met with the words, “I knew something was going to happen”.Graham is a passionate advocate of the bystander approach to help develop personal and organisational leadership to help create safe and supportive learning environments, workplaces, and performance teams.On this pod we discuss how toxic cultures and rigid hierarchies often suppress "good people" from intervening when they witness misconduct, errors, or poor well-being among their peers. By utilizing behavioural science, Graeme advocates for a shift from passive observation to proactive intervention, aiming to save careers and prevent harm before it escalates to a reportable offense. The conversation highlights how redefining loyalty and fostering emotional intelligence in leadership can transform institutional environments. Ultimately, the source emphasizes that cultural change is driven by empowering staff to support one another and challenge harmful behaviours in the moment.  Graham's book choices on Desert Islands Dits are "Why We Act - Turning Bystanders Into Moral Rebels" (Known as "The Bystander Effect" in the UK) by Catherine Sanderson and "The Lucifer Effect - How Good People turn Evil" by Philip Zimbardo.WHERE TO GET OUR DESERT ISLAND DITS BOOK CHOICESMost of our book recommendations can be bought via the Unconventional Soldier Bookshop. 10% of each purchase supports the pod and helps independent book stores on line sales.  "BUY ME A COFFEE"If you want to support the podcast you can buy me a coffee here.SOCIAL MEDIAInstagram @the_unconventional_soldier_pod.Facebook @lateo82. Twitter @TheUCS473.Download these and other platforms via Link Tree.Email us: [email protected]. This episode brought to you in association with ISARR a veteran owned company. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

CONTENTMy guests today are Neale Smiles and Ian Garnett. Regular listener will know Neale from previous podcasts where we have discussed defence and technology issues. Ian, is a former New Zealand Army officer who transitioned from a career in the army to become a successful defence technology entrepreneur. He discusses his extensive military background, including specialised training in digital fire control systems and his experience with large-scale live-firing exercises.After leaving the forces, he developed a sophisticated, software-based system that modernises the sensor-to-shooter link, allowing for rapid, silent and fully digital communication between observers and weapon platforms. The discussion highlights the challenges small firms face in the defence industry, the importance of interoperability within NATO, and how software-driven innovation is currently reshaping modern warfare. Growing success has seen his technology integrated into several international militaries, proving that agile start-ups can outperform established defence giants.Ian's book choice on Desert Islands Dits is "Rommel, Gunner Who?" by Spike Milligan.WHERE TO GET OUR DESERT ISLAND DITS BOOK CHOICESMost of our book recommendations can be bought via the Unconventional Soldier Bookshop. 10% of each purchase supports the pod and helps independent book stores on line sales.  "BUY ME A COFFEE"If you want to support the podcast you can buy me a coffee here.SOCIAL MEDIAInstagram @the_unconventional_soldier_pod.Facebook @lateo82. Twitter @TheUCS473.Download these and other platforms via Link Tree.Email us: [email protected]. This episode brought to you in association with ISARR a veteran owned company. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

CONTENTMy guest is retired Lt Col Derek Plews, a man whose career has spanned journalism, the MOD press office, and 37 years of military service as a reservist including operations in Afghanistan Now, he has turned his focus to a critical chapter of the war in that theatre: the siege of Musa Qal'ah in 2006. In his book, "Shamrock Among the Poppies - Musa Qal'ah 2006 a bloody siege and the failures behind it" Derek gives a voice to the 87 soldiers—predominantly from the Royal Irish Regiment—who found themselves surrounded, outnumbered, and fighting for survival in a crumbling mud-brick compound.In this episode, we discuss the controversial platoon house strategy, the political optics that often overrode military logic, and the harrowing reality of a garrison facing multiple Taliban assaults a day over 5 weeks. We also examine the messy negotiated withdrawal and the profound mental toll this high-intensity warfare took on the soldiers who returned. Derek's book choices on Desert Islands Dits are "Sand and steel - A new history of D-Day" by Peter Caddick Adams and "First day of the Somme" by Martin Middlebrook. My choice is Derek's Book "Shamrock Among the Poppies".WHERE TO GET OUR DESERT ISLAND DITS BOOK CHOICESMost of our book recommendations can be bought via the Unconventional Soldier Bookshop. 10% of each purchase supports the pod and helps independent book stores on line sales.  "BUY ME A COFFEE"If you want to support the podcast you can buy me a coffee here.SOCIAL MEDIAInstagram @the_unconventional_soldier_pod.Facebook @lateo82. Twitter @TheUCS473.Download these and other platforms via Link Tree.Email us: [email protected]. This episode brought to you in association with ISARR a veteran owned company. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

CONTENTThe guest on this episode is Chris Oldfield, a former Royal Engineer.  We discuss his military career and high-intensity operational tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, where he witnessed significant casualties whilst dealing with the persistent threat of improvised explosive devices. Chris also discusses his PTSD and recovery.  Now living in Finland, he educates students on trauma and the true human costs of conflict.Chris's book choice on Desert Islands Dits is "Now It Can Be Told" by Philip Gibbs. My choice is "Rain of Ruin: Tokyo, Hiroshima and the Surrender of Japan" by Richard Overy. We also discuss "Zen And The Art Of Happiness" by Chris Prentiss and "War Is A Racket" by General Smedley D Butler.WHERE TO GET OUR DESERT ISLAND DITS BOOK CHOICESMost of our book recommendations can be bought via the Unconventional Soldier Bookshop. 10% of each purchase supports the pod and helps independent book stores on line sales.  "BUY ME A COFFEE"If you want to support the podcast you can buy me a coffee here.SOCIAL MEDIAInstagram @the_unconventional_soldier_pod.Facebook @lateo82. Twitter @TheUCS473.Download these and other platforms via Link Tree.Email us: [email protected]. This episode brought to you in association with ISARR a veteran owned company. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.