Series 4, Episode 3 - How to Sleep to Dream

In this festive conversation, Laura and Melinda are joined by author Lucinda Dickens Hawksley, Dickens’ great, great, great granddaughter to explore the profound influence of Charles Dickens on Christmas traditions, dreaming and the cultural significance of his work, particularly 'A Christmas Carol.'    They delve into Dickens' complex relationship with sleep and dreams, which is often explored in his novels with their themes of redemption and social responsibility, and his bizarre sleeping habits. Dickens suffered from parasomnias – sleeping disorders like hallucinations and nightmares, which are the hallmark feature of ‘A Christmas Carol’ when the ghost of Marley terrorises his business partner Ebenezer Scrooge in his sleep on Christmas Eve, with dramatic consequences.   Lucinda, biographer and Victorian historian, shares insights into Victorian Christmas celebrations and personal traditions, emphasizing the importance of connection and joy during the holiday season. They discuss the enduring legacy of Dickens' storytelling and its relevance in today's world and Lucinda’s new book, ‘A Victorian Christmas’ as well as her earlier book ‘Dickens and Christmas’.   Your dreams are worth inquiring about too! Share a dream or a question via our website driccpe.org.uk or the social links below!   www.lucindahawksley.com Insta: @lucindahawksley Victorian Christmas: Traditional Recipes, Decorations, Activities and Carols, 2024, Countryman Press Inc. Dickens and  Christmas, 2021, Pen and Sword History.   Let us know what you think and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast!  Instagram @thedreamboatpodcast FaceBook @dreamboatpodcast Twitter @dreamboatpod DRI website: driccpe.org.uk/contact    This podcast is a project of the DRI, the centre for dream studies at CCPE, the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice.   Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to driccpe.org.uk/sign-up to join!   Keep dreaming and keep sharing your dreams!   Credits Recorded on Riverside.fm by Dave and Laura Edited by James Ede at Be Heard https://beheard.org.uk  Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design   Music: Adventures by A Himitsu https://soundcloud.com/a-himitsu  Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/2Pj0MtT Music released by Argofox https://youtu.be/8BXNwnxaVQE  Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/MkNeIUgNPQ8 #dream #dreams #recurringdream #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork #technology #AI #artificialintelligence #gpt #individuation #art #surrealism #consciousness   Tags: Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream @melinda.j.messenger_ FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @dreamresearchinstitute 

In this first episode of the new series, Laura welcomes TV presenter and psychotherapist Melinda Messenger on board for the first ever Celebrity Dream Lab and then announces some surprise news. Melinda is joining the team as a co-host.   Melinda and Laura tease they can get out their dreamcatchers now Dave is no longer on board though they know he’s lurking onshore as the podcast’s executive producer.    They discuss Melinda's journey into the wellness community after she had a significant dream and her life-long passion for recording her dreams. The conversation explores the somatic healing power of dreams and how dreams live in the body. Laura shares how a recent transatlantic cruise on Cunard’s Queen Mary 2 continued in her dreamlife because she flew home from New York rather than coming back to the UK on board the liner, and how the psyche and body felt something was missing.   The hosts discuss the significance of dream symbols, and Melinda shares a personal dream as part of the Dream Lab about a beautiful castle and jewels. They explore how this reflects her journey into psychotherapy. The episode concludes with reflections on the importance of dreams in guiding personal growth and transformation.   Our dreams are worth inquiring about! Share a dream or a question via our website driccpe.org.uk or the social links below!   Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast!  Instagram @thedreamboatpodcast FaceBook @dreamboatpodcast Twitter @dreamboatpod DRI website: driccpe.org.uk/contact    This podcast is a project of the DRI, the centre for dream studies at CCPE, the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice.   Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to driccpe.org.uk/sign-up to join!   Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams!   Credits Recorded on Riverside.fm by Dave and Laura Edited by James Ede at Be Heard https://beheard.org.uk  Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design   Music: Adventures by A Himitsu https://soundcloud.com/a-himitsu  Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/2Pj0MtT Music released by Argofox https://youtu.be/8BXNwnxaVQE  Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/MkNeIUgNPQ8  

Your dream questions... answered. It's the end of Series 4, and before we take a little break, we take the opportunity to answer more of the questions sent in. Questions like: What does it mean when I hear music in a dream?  And (the classic): Why do I keep dreaming about my ex? As ever, the answers lead us down some suprising, interesting, and sometimes amusing paths.    Sound bites:  "Music is a way of relating to those subtle aspects of ourselves that don't have to go through the cognitive filter." "Dreaming about an ex may indicate unfinished business, projection of certain qualities onto the ex, or a need to revisit and resolve emotions associated with the past relationship."   Your dreams are worth inquiring about too! Share a dream or a question via our website driccpe.org.uk or the social links below! Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast!  Instagram @thedreamboatpodcast FaceBook @dreamboatpodcast Twitter @dreamboatpod DRI website: driccpe.org.uk/contact  This podcast is a project of the DRI, the centre for dream studies at CCPE, the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to driccpe.org.uk/sign-up to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams!   Credits Recorded on Riverside.fm by Dave and Laura Edited by James Ede at Be Heard https://beheard.org.uk  Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design   Music: Adventures by A Himitsu https://soundcloud.com/a-himitsu  Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/2Pj0MtT Music released by Argofox https://youtu.be/8BXNwnxaVQE  Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/MkNeIUgNPQ8 #dream #dreams #recurringdream #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork #technology #AI #artificialintelligence #gpt #individuation #art #surrealism #consciousness Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream  FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @laura.payne.33 @dreamresearchinstitute

Time for another Dream Lab! We love these opportunities to hear someone's dream and discuss it in real time with them. We hope you love it too! For this Dream Lab, we hear from Maria about her dream of a beautiful house and a playful and wild German shepherd dog named Bella. But what are all these Americans doing in the house? What parts of Maria's inner world are being dramatised here? Listen to our conversation and get in touch via the social media links below to let us know what you think about our exploration of this rich dreamscape that links past, present and future.  Takeaways Explore the boundaries and trust within your inner world Acknowledge and trust your own emotions Integrate playful and wild aspects of yourself Find out more about Maria's work in psychotherapy, dreamwork, tarot and astrology at www.beginagain.space Your dreams are worth talking about too! Share a dream via our website driccpe.org.uk or the social links below! Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast!  Instagram @thedreamboatpodcast FaceBook @dreamboatpodcast Twitter @dreamboatpod DRI website: driccpe.org.uk/contact  This podcast is a project of the DRI, the centre for dream studies at CCPE, the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to driccpe.org.uk/sign-up to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams!   Credits Recorded on Riverside.fm by Dave and Laura Edited by James Ede at Be Heard https://beheard.org.uk  Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design   Music: Adventures by A Himitsu https://soundcloud.com/a-himitsu  Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/2Pj0MtT Music released by Argofox https://youtu.be/8BXNwnxaVQE  Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/MkNeIUgNPQ8 #dream #dreams #recurringdream #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork #AI #individuation #art #consciousness #shadowwork Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream  FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @laura.payne.33 @dreamresearchinstitute

Dave and Laura discuss the power of symbols in dreams and explore the ones they have found most meaningful, personally and professionally. Ultimately, the meaning of a symbol depends on the individual. They explore the idea of a private, internal language of symbols in dreams and the importance of understanding recurring symbols. They also discuss the concept of archetypes, symbols that transcend personal experience and become shared images within a global consciousness. Dave and Laura share their own favourite symbols and discuss the significance of landscapes, mountains, water, fire, and the elements in dreams.   Your dream images and symbols are worth sharing too! Share a dream via our website driccpe.org.uk or the social links below!   Keywords symbols, dreams, interpretation, personal, individual, recurring symbols, archetypes, landscapes, mountains, water, fire, elements   Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast!  Instagram @thedreamboatpodcast FaceBook @dreamboatpodcast Twitter @dreamboatpod DRI website: driccpe.org.uk/contact  This podcast is a project of the DRI, the centre for dream studies at CCPE, the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to driccpe.org.uk/sign-up to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams!   Credits Recorded on Riverside.fm by Dave and Laura Edited by James Ede at Be Heard https://beheard.org.uk  Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design   Music: Adventures by A Himitsu https://soundcloud.com/a-himitsu  Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/2Pj0MtT Music released by Argofox https://youtu.be/8BXNwnxaVQE  Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/MkNeIUgNPQ8 #dream #dreams #recurringdream #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork #technology #AI #artificialintelligence #gpt #individuation #art #surrealism #consciousness #symbol Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream  FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @laura.payne.33 @dreamresearchinstitute  

Dave and Laura are joined by Maria to talk about recent conference of the International Association for the Study of Dreams (IASD). They share their impressions and highlights from the conference, including workshops on topics such as AI and dreams, tarot and dreams, lucid dreaming, and surrealism. They also discuss the art exhibition at the conference, which showcased dream-inspired artwork. The conversation touches on the themes of consciousness, spirituality, and the transformative power of dreams. You can attend IASD conferences too! The 2025 conference will be online, as will every second annual conference in the coming years.   Keywords: IASD conference, impressions, highlights, AI and dreams, tarot and dreams, lucid dreaming, surrealism, art exhibition, consciousness, spirituality, transformative power of dreams   Your dreams are worth talking about too! Share a dream via our website driccpe.org.uk or the social links below! Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast!  Instagram @thedreamboatpodcast FaceBook @dreamboatpodcast Twitter @dreamboatpod DRI website: driccpe.org.uk/contact  This podcast is a project of the DRI, the centre for dream studies at CCPE, the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to driccpe.org.uk/sign-up to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams!   Credits Recorded on Riverside.fm by Dave and Laura Edited by James Ede at Be Heard https://beheard.org.uk  Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design   Music: Adventures by A Himitsu https://soundcloud.com/a-himitsu  Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/2Pj0MtT Music released by Argofox https://youtu.be/8BXNwnxaVQE  Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/MkNeIUgNPQ8 #dream #dreams #recurringdream #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork #technology #AI #artificialintelligence #gpt #individuation #art #surrealism #consciousness Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream  FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @laura.payne.33 @dreamresearchinstitute 

Dr Deirdre Barrett is a pioneer on the frontier of dreams and technology. This week, we bring you Laura’s interview with this Harvard psychologist, dream researcher, clinician and artist who has been pushing the bounds of new technology to increase our understanding of dreams and ask deeper questions about what generative AI tells us about dreams when it generates its own versions of novel dream reports. Can you tell the difference between an AI’s dream and a human’s? Deirdre Barrett, Ph.D. is a psychologist on the faculty of Harvard where she teaches courses on dreams to undergraduates, psychiatry residents & psychology interns, and lectures on hypnosis. She is President of the International Association for the Study of Dreams. She has written five books including Pandemic Dreams and The Committee of Sleep, She is Editor-in-Chief of the international academic journal, Dreaming. Dr. Barrett has published dozens of academic articles and chapters on dreams, hypnosis, sleep talking, and evolutionary psychology. Her current work focuses on dreams and creativity.  Laura interviewed Dr. Barrett at the annual conference of the International Association for the Study of Dreams in Kerkrade in the Netherlands. For the Dream of the Week, Dr. Barrett and Laura discuss a dream that inspired one of her works of dream art, in which owls swoop down onto a woman’s head.   Your dream images are worth fascinating too! Share a dream via our website driccpe.org.uk or the social links below! Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast!  Instagram @thedreamboatpodcast FaceBook @dreamboatpodcast Twitter @dreamboatpod DRI website: driccpe.org.uk/contact  This podcast is a project of the DRI, the centre for dream studies at CCPE, the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to driccpe.org.uk/sign-up to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams! Credits Recorded on Riverside.fm by Dave and Laura Edited by James Ede at Be Heard https://beheard.org.uk  Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design Music: Adventures by A Himitsu https://soundcloud.com/a-himitsu  Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/2Pj0MtT Music released by Argofox https://youtu.be/8BXNwnxaVQE  Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/MkNeIUgNPQ8 #dream #dreams #recurringdream #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork #technology #AI #artificialintelligence #gpt #individuation Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream @deirdre_barrett_dreams FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @laura.payne.33 @dreamresearchinstitute

Talk about your dreams?? 😱😬😧 …But what if there was a place where you could explore your dreams with like-minded people? Lots of people find dream groups to be a supportive environment to expand their understanding of their dreams and themselves. This week on the Dream Boat, Laura and Dave discuss the benefits and experiences of dream groups, exploring the process, symbolism, and healing aspects of sharing dreams in a group setting. The conversation delves into what it’s like to be in a dream groups, different ways of exploring dreams in a group setting, lucid dreaming, and the potential for forming dream clubs. For the Dream of the Week, Dave and Laura also analyse a (slightly scary) submitted dream, highlighting the themes of opposition, self-image, and the primal nature of the dreamer's experience. Your dream themes are worth discussing too! Share a dream via our website driccpe.org.uk or the social links below!  Takeaways Dream groups provide a space for individuals to share and explore their dreams in a supportive and facilitated environment. The process of sharing dreams in a group setting can lead to deep friendships, shared dream symbolism, and a heightened sense of empathy. Professional courses and peer groups offer different experiences but both have value. See driccp.org.uk for information about the short and long courses offered there.   Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast!  Instagram @thedreamboatpodcast FaceBook @dreamboatpodcast Twitter @dreamboatpod DRI website: driccpe.org.uk/contact  This podcast is a project of the DRI, the centre for dream studies at CCPE, the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to driccpe.org.uk/sign-up to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams! Credits Recorded on Riverside.fm by Dave and Laura Edited by James Ede at Be Heard https://beheard.org.uk  Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design Music: Adventures by A Himitsu https://soundcloud.com/a-himitsu  Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/2Pj0MtT Music released by Argofox https://youtu.be/8BXNwnxaVQE  Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/MkNeIUgNPQ8 #dream #dreams #recurringdream #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork #technology #AI #artificialintelligence #gpt #individuation Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream  FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @laura.payne.33 @dreamresearchinstitute 

Laura and Dave go head-to-head with an AI trained to interpret dreams. Who (or what) comes up with the most meaningful interpretations? You decide! Elswhere is a dream journaling app that offers interpretations powered by a GPT (generative pre-trained transformer), otherwise known as a generative AI. Kelly Bulkeley and Sheldon Juncker have been instrumental in creating and training Elsewhere to interpret dreams, and they come aboard the Dream Boat to discuss the intersection of technology and dreaming, specifically the use of AI in dream interpretation. The guests discuss the accuracy and insights provided by the AI interpretations, which draw on the work of Freud and Jung, among others. In an extended “Dream of the Week” segment, Sheldon shares a dream for Dave and Laura to explore and interpret, and then the group hears what Elsewhere had to say about it. What will the influence of AI be on dream interpretation, and are there potential benefits of using AI as a tool for self-reflection and understanding? Hopefully it's collaboration, not competition.  Kelly Bulkeley, Ph.D., is a dream researcher and author with a background in the psychology of religion. He is director of the Sleep and Dream Database (as discussed on episode 2 of this series of the Dream Boat), a Senior Editor of the APA journal Dreaming, and a former President of the International Association for the Study of Dreams.  Sheldon Juncker, B.Sc. is a software engineer who works in the fields of dream research, data analysis, and artificial intelligence, who in addition to his work with Dr Bulkeley on Elsewhere also helps to maintain the Sleep and Dream Database. Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast!  Instagram @thedreamboatpodcast FaceBook @dreamboatpodcast Twitter @dreamboatpod DRI website: driccpe.org.uk/contact  This podcast is a project of the DRI, the centre for dream studies at CCPE, the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to driccpe.org.uk/sign-up to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams!   Credits Recorded on Riverside.fm by Dave and Laura Edited by James Ede at Be Heard https://beheard.org.uk  Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design   Music: Adventures by A Himitsu https://soundcloud.com/a-himitsu  Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/2Pj0MtT Music released by Argofox https://youtu.be/8BXNwnxaVQE  Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/MkNeIUgNPQ8   #dream #dreams #recurringdream #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork #technology #AI #artificialintelligence #gpt #individuation Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream @kelly.bulkeley @elsewheredreams FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @laura.payne.33 @dreamresearchinstitute @elsewheredreams

Dave and Laura explore techniques and practices to improve sleep and enhance dream recall. The conversation covers sleep tracking devices, the different stages of sleep, the importance of deep sleep, and the role of REM sleep in dreaming. Drawing on personal experiences with sleep as well as their therapy experience, they share tips for improving sleep hygiene, such as maintaining a regular sleep schedule and avoiding screens before bed. They also explore mindfulness practices and the use of dream journals to enhance dream recall.   Takeaways Good sleep health is essential for improving dream recall and overall well-being. Understanding the different stages of sleep, including deep sleep and REM sleep, can help optimize sleep quality. Practicing good sleep hygiene, such as maintaining a regular sleep schedule and avoiding screens before bed, can improve sleep. Mindfulness practices, such as body scans and playing the day's film backwards, can help relax the mind and prepare for sleep. Keeping a dream journal and engaging in techniques to remember dreams can enhance dream recall and facilitate dream exploration. For the dream of the week, Laura reads a dream from a listener named Gordon, who experiences a profound sense of love for his daughter as he realizes he is coming to the end of his life. The dream mitigates the fear of dying through the overwhelming feeling of love. The conversation explores the connection between sleep, dreaming, and death, as well as the fear of death and its impact on sleep. Techniques for addressing death anxiety and finding meaning in life are discussed, emphasizing the importance of connection and love.   Mentioned in this episode Birds sleep with one eye open Spiders dream! NHS sleep hygiene advice Laura’s book – Nine Steps to a Mindful Life (Without Meditating) Professor Mark Williams - Mindfulness Based Cognitive Therapy Blue light and sleep CBT for sleep and insomnia Let us know what you think, and submit a dream for us to explore on the podcast!  Instagram @thedreamboatpodcast FaceBook @dreamboatpodcast Twitter @dreamboatpod DRI website: driccpe.org.uk/contact  This podcast is a project of the DRI, the centre for dream studies at CCPE, the psychotherapy college overlooking the canals at London’s scenic Little Venice. Remember you can join the DRI for just £30 a year currently to access discounted events, courses, newsletters and join in the conversation about dreams. Go to driccpe.org.uk/sign-up to join! Keep dreaming, and keep sharing your dreams!   Credits Recorded on Riverside.fm by Dave and Laura Edited by James Ede at Be Heard https://beheard.org.uk  Podcast Artwork Design by Kat Seager Design   Music: Adventures by A Himitsu https://soundcloud.com/a-himitsu  Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/2Pj0MtT Music released by Argofox https://youtu.be/8BXNwnxaVQE  Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/MkNeIUgNPQ8   #dream #dreams #recurringdream #nightmares #psychology #research #psychotherapy #trauma #treatment #sleep #transpersonal #science #alchemy #spirituality #jung #lucid #luciddreaming #podcast #dreamwork #insomnia Insta: @onefulness @dreamresearchinstitute @iasddream  FB: @associationforstudyofdreams @laura.payne.33 @dreamresearchinstitute