Steady State Podcast

What makes a rowing club feel like home? Is it the people, the place, the time spent on the water, or some combination of all three? Today, we're heading to Chattanooga to meet three women who know a thing or two about all of that. Joining us are Missy Elliot, president of Lookout Rowing Club; Megan Hanewald, a Masters Coach, Lookout’s Program Director and Lead Personal Coach for Hydrow; and Sydney Westrate, a second-year rower who's still discovering everything this sport and community have to offer. We're talking about finding your way into rowing and what makes Chattanooga such a special place, and get honest about how Lookout is handling its growing pains. We're also getting into the future of the Head of the Hooch — the second largest regatta in the U.S. — and how Lookout, Atlanta Rowing Club, and the Friends of the Hooch are working alongside the city of Chattanooga to keep this beloved event right where it belongs, even as the city undertakes a major waterfront redevelopment. It's a conversation about rowing, community, hometown pride, and what it takes to bring people together around a shared love of the sport. GUESTS Missy Elliot, President of Lookout Rowing Club Megan Hanewald, Program Director of Lookout Rowing Club Sydney Westrate, Lookout masters rower . QUICK LOOK 00:00 - Introduction  02:53 - Welcome and Rowing Week on a scale of 1-10 03:16 - The Huddle 04:40 - Hot Seat Q&A 07:54 - Rowing origin stories 13:02 - What rowing gives you: geeking out on the details, finding your inner competitor, and making new friends 15:12 - From the time Missy learned to row, her husband assumed she’d be club President someday; and Megan’s non-rowing friends and family might be surprised by her intensity on race day 18:53 - The beauty and challenges of rowing on the dam-controlled Tennessee River 23:29 - Building community at Lookout while working through growing pains  32:34 - Head of the Hooch Regatta 36:34 - How waterfront redesign plans threatened the future of The Hooch 47:17 - 5k not long enough? Head to Chattanooga for the marathon-distance Tennessee River Gorge Row …and other options 49:58 - A Southeast Fall rowing tour pipedream 51:46 - Steady State Network news and notes: Coffee Chat, Allies with Oars, podcast news . To see photos of Missy, Megan, and Sydney,  and get links to the people, clubs, and events mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website. . Steady State Podcast is a production of Steady State Network. It is hosted and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering, books show guests, and is our sponsor and donor coordinator. Rachel writes our scripts and e-newsletter, and manages the website and social media. Our theme music is Open Mind by Soundroll. . SHOP SSN GEAR: www.steadystatenetwork.com/shop SIGN UP FOR THE SSN NEWSLETTER: www.steadystatenetwork.com/newsletter MAKE A DIFFERENCE: www.steadystatenetwork.com/support  CONNECT:  FB - /SteadyStateNetwork IG - @SteadyStateNetwork FB - /AllieswithOars IG - @AllieswithOars Connect on FB and IG with the hosts: Rachel Freedman - @RowSource Tara Morgan - @CmonBarber

From teaching the fundamentals to chasing peak performance, Shane Farmer has helped countless rowers become fully competent on the erg through Dark Horse Rowing. But Dark Horse didn’t begin with a grand plan—it started when Shane, then a Concept2 Master Instructor and CrossFit coach, couldn’t find the rowing content he wanted online and decided to make it himself. Today, he’s balancing work and family life, and rowing with San Diego Rowing Club. We stole some of his time for a wide-ranging conversation about seeking direction and discovering rowing, embracing the suck, the evolution of indoor rowing coaching, building Dark Horse, and plenty more. GUEST Shane Farmer, Founder of Dark Horse Rowing IG: @darkhorserowing FB: /darkhorserowing . QUICK LOOK 00:00 - Introduction  02:44 - Welcome  04:10 - Rowing Week on a scale of 1-10: 5 (post-summer / pre-HOCR training valley) 06:37 - The Huddle 08:01 - Hot Seat Q&A 11:22 - Rowing origin story: seeking “The Thing” and embracing structure 21:29 - Doubling down and committing with a focus on IRAs; and perspectives on post-college elite and masters rowing  24:23 - Cross training with CrossFit before it was cool 25:08 - Why CrossFit erg technique was “so bad,” and why Shane started coaching and stopped trying to convince CrossFitters to love rowing 28:20 - For the rowing curious, Indoor rowing can be a “gateway” to on water rowing, but shouldn’t be the focus 31:10 - Coaching Concept2 Instructor seminar burnout when “ Nobody ever follows up. Ever. Ever.” and how that motivated Shane to found Dark Horse 37:29 - Creating content and building a YouTube channel 39:44 - Dark Horse: designed to help people become fully competent on the erg by lowering the barrier to entry 40:34 - How indoor rowing has changed and what it needs to succeed 44:42 - The future of Dark Horse 47:41 - A day in the life of Shane Farmer 49:43 - Best 20-minute workout? 51:20 - Just what is “steady state”? 53:25 - Peak power, programming zones, and performance 55:40 - Embracing the suck to learn where your red line is 59:07 - Join Dark Horse for Rowvember and check out their new app 1:02:32 - Head of the Charles 1:04:58 - Steady State Network news and notes: Coffee Chat, HOCR, Allies with Oars . To see photos of Shane,  and get links to the people, clubs, and events mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website. . Steady State Podcast is a production of Steady State Network. It is hosted and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering, books show guests, and is our sponsor and donor coordinator. Rachel writes our scripts and e-newsletter, and manages the website and social media. Our theme music is Open Mind by Soundroll. . SHOP SSN GEAR: www.steadystatenetwork.com/shop SIGN UP FOR THE SSN NEWSLETTER: www.steadystatenetwork.com/newsletter MAKE A DIFFERENCE: www.steadystatenetwork.com/support  CONNECT:  FB - /SteadyStateNetwork IG - @SteadyStateNetwork FB - /AllieswithOars IG - @AllieswithOars Connect on FB and IG with the hosts: Rachel Freedman - @RowSource Tara Morgan - @CmonBarber

What happens when breast cancer survivors find their way into a boat together? At Recovery on Water, the answer is a powerful community where rowing becomes a source of strength, connection, and possibility. ROW gives breast cancer patients and survivors of all ages and all stages a chance to discover the physical and mental benefits of exercise alongside people who understand the journey—no explanations necessary. We’re joined from Chicago by Executive Director Tara Hoffman, novice coach Shannon Short, and novice squad athlete Christina Bello. GUESTS Tara Hoffman, ROW Executive Director Shannon Short, novice coach Christina Bello, novice squad athlete   QUICK LOOK 0:00 - Introduction  02:14 - Welcome & The Huddle 03:51 - Rowing Week on a scale of 1-10 05:18 - The last time you did something for the first time 07:03 - Hot Seat Q&A 08:50 - Rowing Origin Stories 12:27 - What makes rowing so special for breast cancer recovery? 14:33 - The case for rowing with ROW for breast cancer recovery 18:08 - ROW programs and regatta opportunities 19:17 - Community building at ROW 25:26 - Being there for each other in hard times 32:20 - Power10 Camp 33:47 - The ripple effect of involvement with ROW 36:07 - Shannon’s rowing elevator pitch 36:49 - What YOU can do during Breast Cancer Awareness month 39:03 - Steady State Network news and notes: Coffee Chat, HOCR, Allies with Oars . To see photos of Tara, Shannon, and Christina,  and get links to the people, clubs, and events mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website. . Steady State Podcast is a production of Steady State Network. It is hosted and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering, books show guests, and is our sponsor and donor coordinator. Rachel writes our scripts and e-newsletter, and manages the website and social media. Our theme music is Open Mind by Soundroll. . SHOP SSN GEAR: www.steadystatenetwork.com/shop SIGN UP FOR THE SSN NEWSLETTER: www.steadystatenetwork.com/newsletter MAKE A DIFFERENCE: www.steadystatenetwork.com/support  CONNECT:  FB - /SteadyStateNetwork IG - @SteadyStateNetwork FB - /AllieswithOars IG - @AllieswithOars Connect on FB and IG with the hosts: Rachel Freedman - @RowSource Tara Morgan - @CmonBarber

It's Fall semester at the University of Wisconsin, 1984. The United States, just weeks before, had won the first-ever W8+ Olympic gold medal at the Los Angeles Games. And a 5’4” freshman named Yasmin Farooq walks on to the Wisco crew as a coxswain and wonders “Can I win an Olympic medal, too?” More than 40 years later, this Olympic captain, world champion, and Hall of Fame coach continues to shape rowers and coxswains. Her influence is evident not only in championship trophies and Olympic medals, but in the athletes she has developed and the enduring excellence of the Washington women's rowing program, which she has helmed since 2017. Yaz gets into it with us about the importance of skill development, tradition, student-athlete success, and the post-practice huddle. GUEST Yaz Farooq | Head Coach, women's program, University of Washington IG: @Yaz_farooq FB: /yasmin.farooq . QUICK LOOK 00:00 - Introduction  4:15 - Welcome and The Huddle 5:12 - Side bar on a coach's life and Yaz's support staff 06:51 - Walk-on culture at University of Washington 08:01 - Hot Seat Q&A 11:46 - Walking on at Wisco within weeks of the US W8+ winning gold at the 1984 LA Olympics 13:21 - Coxing 101, moving beyond F-bombs, and asking “where is speed”? 18:02 - The coxswain’s role outside of the boat 20:00 - UW’s investment in coaching coxswains 22:24 - The life of student athletes: great performances coincide with good grades 24:02 - Building a collegiate program; adding to the legacy 26:50 - UW legacy and tradition: “throwing dubs,” Class Day, Cut paintings 30:40 - The importance (and dilemma) of the post-practice huddle 35:52 - Giving back: it’s about the next generation and accessibility for everyone 39:48 - Steady State Network news and notes: Coffee Chat, HOCR, Allies with Oars . To see photos of Yaz  and get links to the people, clubs, and events mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website. . Steady State Podcast is a production of Steady State Network. It is hosted and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering, books show guests, and is our sponsor and donor coordinator. Rachel writes our scripts and e-newsletter, and manages the website and social media. Our theme music is Open Mind by Soundroll. . SHOP SSN GEAR: www.steadystatenetwork.com/shop SIGN UP FOR THE SSN NEWSLETTER: www.steadystatenetwork.com/newsletter MAKE A DIFFERENCE: www.steadystatenetwork.com/support  CONNECT:  FB - /SteadyStateNetwork IG - @SteadyStateNetwork FB - /AllieswithOars IG - @AllieswithOars Connect on FB and IG with the hosts: Rachel Freedman - @RowSource Tara Morgan - @CmonBarber

It started with blasting tennis balls past the baseline and wanting to make frothy puddles from his single. And then a 12-year old Xeno Muller began to learn to focus his strength, passion, and rage. It led him to an undefeated college career at Brown, three Olympic appearances (including two medals), and more than 25 years dedicated to coaching rowers to find better technique, and more speed, on the erg. When we sat down with Xeno, we expected to hear good stories, and insightful opinions. We didn’t realize just how deep the emotions would go.   GUEST Xeno Müller elite-rowing-coach.com FB: /Xenorowingcoach IG: @online_elite_rowing_coach   QUICK LOOK 00:00 - Introduction 01:58 - Rowing Week on a scale of 1-10 03:07 - The Huddle 4:19 - Hot Seat Q&A 13:33 - It was a snowy morning when 12-year-old Xeno Müller first got into a boat on the Seine River in  Fontainebleau, France 16:06 - At 16, Xeno’s life changed forever the day he met Swiss National Team coach Harry Mahon 20:10 - Coaching his Mom to a hammer win at C.R.A.S.H.-B. Sprints in 1992 22:48 - Leaving an undefeated Brown University crew to pursue Olympic gold in the 1x 25:16 - Mom sees him win at the 1996 Olympics 29:31 - Starting an indoor rowing studio in 2003 to support his family 33:26 - What we’re getting wrong on the erg 35:06 - “Ergs can float” 37:11 - Xeno’s evolving understanding of rowing 39:55 - On the growth of the sport of indoor rowing 41:02 - “The flat water rowing world is a bunch of anal retentive people who think they know it all…and that’s the limiting factor to the growth of the sport.” Plus why beach sprint and open water rowing could create a bridge 43:42 - The perfect stroke and Xeno describes his own “unbelievably fast” 1994 World Cup race in France 47:54 - Advice for Xeno’s younger self 49:25 - Steady State Network news and notes . To see photos of Xeno  and get links to the people, clubs, and events mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website. . Steady State Podcast is a production of Steady State Network. It is hosted and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering, books show guests, and is our sponsor and donor coordinator. Rachel writes our scripts and e-newsletter, and manages the website and social media. Our theme music is Open Mind by Soundroll. . SHOP SSN GEAR: www.steadystatenetwork.com/shop SIGN UP FOR THE SSN NEWSLETTER: www.steadystatenetwork.com/newsletter MAKE A DIFFERENCE: www.steadystatenetwork.com/support  CONNECT:  FB - /SteadyStateNetwork IG - @SteadyStateNetwork FB - /AllieswithOars IG - @AllieswithOars Connect on FB and IG with the hosts: Rachel Freedman - @RowSource Tara Morgan - @CmonBarber

Explore why some of our best rowing experiences happen beyond our boathouses—and why seeking out new boats, waters, people, and challenges doesn’t have to mean leaving your club behind. We share some of our own adventures outside the usual club routine, then talk with Rachel Egner, Jenny Withycombe, and Steve Littlepage about preparing for an independent row around Vashon Island, WA, on August 16. Because sometimes, keeping your love of rowing alive means getting out of your usual lane. GUESTS Rachel Egner Member: Pocock Rowing Center, Allies with Oars, RowFi Steve Littlepage Member: Mount Baker Rowing and Renton Rowing Club Treasurer: Seize the Oar Foundation Jenny Withycombe Women’s Captain: Willamette Rowing Club Chair: USRowing’s Inclusion Community Impact Committee This episode was made possible in part by RowSource and our Supporters.   QUICK LOOK: 00:00 - Introduction 01:06 - Welcome 01:55 - The Huddle 04:15 - Hot Seat Q&A 11:50- Thais's introduction to indoor rowing in the mid-00s and how coming to understand the data on the monitor gave her a purpose 13:39 - The organic development and growth of the ErgZone app 22:39 - Thoughts on the growth of indoor rowing since 2020 25:28 - Inclusion, accessibility 29:59 - Partnerships, being a woman in the tech space, and being female entrepreneurs 35:53 - Taking a cautious approach to AI 39:50 - Steady State Network news and notes . To see photos of Rachel, Steve, and Jenny,  and get links to the people, clubs, and events mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website. . Steady State Podcast is a production of Steady State Network. It is hosted and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering, books show guests, and is our sponsor and donor coordinator. Rachel writes our scripts and e-newsletter, and manages the website and social media. Our theme music is Open Mind by Soundroll. . SHOP SSN GEAR: www.steadystatenetwork.com/shop SIGN UP FOR THE SSN NEWSLETTER: www.steadystatenetwork.com/newsletter MAKE A DIFFERENCE: www.steadystatenetwork.com/support  CONNECT:  FB - /SteadyStateNetwork IG - @SteadyStateNetwork FB - /AllieswithOars IG - @AllieswithOars Connect on FB and IG with the hosts: Rachel Freedman - @RowSource Tara Morgan - @CmonBarber

When Vashon Island Rowing Club junior rower Liv Carlson was asked to interview someone they admire for a school project, they chose Steady State Podcast co-host Tara Morgan.   The result? A thoughtful, wide-ranging 10-minute conversation that traces Tara's rowing journey—from learning to row in Tennessee, to rediscovering the sport as an adult in Seattle, founding Seize The Oar, and the coaches who shaped the way she now mentors others.   The episode opens with a special introduction from Tara and fellow Steady State Podcast co-host Rachel Freedman, setting the stage for this unique role reversal—where a young rower asks the questions and a lifelong rower shares the lessons.   Click the link to listen or find Steady State Podcast anywhere you get podcasts.   INTERVIEWER: Liv Carlson, Vashon Island Rowing Club juniors crew GUEST: Tara Morgan, Vashon Island Rowing Club & Co-Host, Steady State Podcast This episode was made possible in part by RowSource and our Supporters.   QUICK LOOK: 00:00 - Podcast intro 05:01 - Tara’s intro to rowing as a high school kid in Tennessee, and reintroduction as an adult in Seattle 8:55 - The impact of Tara’s coaches on her own coaching style 10:14 - The spark that lead to Tara founding Seize the Oar 12:53 - Steady State Podcast 14:40 - Steady State Network news and notes . To see photos of Liv and Tara,  and to get links to the people, clubs, and events mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website. . Steady State Podcast is a production of Steady State Network. It is hosted and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering, books show guests, and is our sponsor and donor coordinator. Rachel writes our scripts and e-newsletter, and manages the website and social media. Our theme music is Open Mind by Soundroll. . SHOP SSN GEAR: www.steadystatenetwork.com/shop SIGN UP FOR THE SSN NEWSLETTER: www.steadystatenetwork.com/newsletter MAKE A DIFFERENCE: www.steadystatenetwork.com/support  CONNECT:  FB - /SteadyStateNetwork IG - @SteadyStateNetwork FB - /AllieswithOars IG - @AllieswithOars Connect on FB and IG with the hosts: Rachel Freedman - @RowSource Tara Morgan - @CmonBarber

Like millions of CrossFit athletes, Thais Camilo thought of the indoor rower as just one stop in a workout: hammer through a fast 500 meters, then move on to the next movement. Everything changed when her husband, Gabriel, became interested in structured indoor rowing training. Together, the two software engineers built what would become ErgZone – a feature-rich app that replaces tedious monitor programming with Bluetooth syncing, delivers real-time performance data, automatically verifies Concept2 Logbook workouts, and connects athletes through a thriving online community. On this episode, Thais shares the organic growth story behind ErgZone, reflects on the challenges and opportunities of being a female entrepreneur at the intersection of sport and technology, and explains why she's taking a thoughtful, cautious approach to AI as the next generation of fitness tools takes shape. GUEST: Thais Camilo, CEO & Co-Founder, ErgZone IG: @ergzone This episode was made possible in part by RowSource and our Supporters.   QUICK LOOK: 00:00 - Introduction 01:06 - Welcome 01:55 - The Huddle 04:15 - Hot Seat Q&A 11:50- Thais's introduction to indoor rowing in the mid-00s and how coming to understand the data on the monitor gave her a purpose 13:39 - The organic development and growth of the ErgZone app 22:39 - Thoughts on the growth of indoor rowing since 2020 25:28 - Inclusion, accessibility 29:59 - Partnerships, being a woman in the tech space, and being female entrepreneurs 35:53 - Taking a cautious approach to AI 39:50 - Steady State Network news and notes . To see photos of Thais and Gabriel,  and to get links to the people, clubs, and events mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website. . Steady State Podcast is a production of Steady State Network. It is hosted and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering, books show guests, and is our sponsor and donor coordinator. Rachel writes our scripts and e-newsletter, and manages the website and social media. Our theme music is Open Mind by Soundroll. . SHOP SSN GEAR: www.steadystatenetwork.com/shop SIGN UP FOR THE SSN NEWSLETTER: www.steadystatenetwork.com/newsletter MAKE A DIFFERENCE: www.steadystatenetwork.com/support  CONNECT:  FB - /SteadyStateNetwork IG - @SteadyStateNetwork FB - /AllieswithOars IG - @AllieswithOars Connect on FB and IG with the hosts: Rachel Freedman - @RowSource Tara Morgan - @CmonBarber

Jimmy Germano coxed the U.S. Jr. M8+ to gold at the World Rowing Junior Championships in 2005, but he swears it was sheer luck – being in the right place at the right time with a great crew and a “fake it ‘til you make it” attitude. More than 20 years later, motivated to help others hone their coxing skills, you can find Jimmy pondering coxing and life on his Instagram account @coxswain_clinic. So of course we invited him to talk Coxing 101, coaching coxswains, the cox/8/7 relationship, finding your coxing voice, and a whole lot more.   GUESTS: Jimmy Germano IG: @coxswain_clinic This episode was made possible in part by RowSource and our Supporters.   QUICK LOOK 00:00 - Introduction 02:08 - Rowing Week on a scale of 1-10: 5 03:10 - The Huddle 05:22 - The Hot Seat Q&A 10:05 - Jimmy learned to row as a teenager in Viking Rowing Club’s “Chicken Dippers” LTR 15:52 - From being bullied to being a leader, and working past imposter syndrome 20:26 - Impressing the Junior National Team coaches with a cobbled-together coxing video 25:14 - Learning to cox from other coxswains, and the challenge of coaching coxswains 30:49 - The philosophy behind Jimmy's favorite coxing call: “Earn a Power 10” 33:05 - @coxswain_clinic on IG 37:21 - What, when, and how to convey information 39:07 - Advice for new masters coxswains: listen and prioritize safety 47:20 - The relationship between stern pair and cox 50:00 - Bow seat is the most difficult to row 52:35 - The perfect stroke, from the coxswain’s perspective 56:51 - Jimmy’s coxing personality:  quiet confidence 1:00:13 - Steady State Network news and notes . To see photos of Jimmy,  and to get links to the people, clubs, and events mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website. . Steady State Podcast is a production of Steady State Network. It is hosted and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering, books show guests, and is our sponsor and donor coordinator. Rachel writes our scripts and e-newsletter, and manages the website and social media. Our theme music is Open Mind by Soundroll. . SHOP SSN GEAR: www.steadystatenetwork.com/shop SIGN UP FOR THE SSN NEWSLETTER: www.steadystatenetwork.com/newsletter MAKE A DIFFERENCE: www.steadystatenetwork.com/support  CONNECT:  FB - /SteadyStateNetwork IG - @SteadyStateNetwork FB - /AllieswithOars IG - @AllieswithOars Connect on FB and IG with the hosts: Rachel Freedman - @RowSource Tara Morgan - @CmonBarber

Long before Jak Kazmarek joined Team Moar Than Us for the World’s Toughest Row Pacific, there was a moment when survival – not ocean rowing – was the goal. They made the phone call home: “The doctors don’t think I’m going to make it. You need to be on the next plane.” Years of surgeries and recovery followed as Jak battled diverticulitis, a debilitating disease of the colon. And step by step, they rebuilt their life: from a wheelchair to an erg, from Learn to Row to the Head of the Charles. Now, Jak is taking on an extraordinary adventure – rowing more than 2,800 miles across the Pacific Ocean from Monterey, California, to Kauaʻi, Hawaiʻi. Record-holding trio Oar the Rainbow (S6E10), from the 2025 World’s Toughest Row Pacific, join the conversation to share the realities of rowing through darkness in the middle of the ocean, the clarity that comes from a singular focus, and what it means to return to shore forever changed.    GUESTS: Jak Kazmarek | Team More Than Us, World’s Toughest Row Pacific 2026 IG: @jakhammer510 / @MoarThanUS  moarthanus.org Team Oar the Rainbow | World’s Toughest Row Pacific 2025 Courtney Farber - IG: @courtneyfarbercpt Julie Warren - IG: @awildjolie Taylan Stulting - IG: @thetranstraveller This episode was made possible in part by RowSource and our Supporters.   QUICK LOOK 00:00 - Introduction 01:48 - The Huddle 03:19 - The Hot Seat 08:07 - Jak’s rowing origin story began by using the erg for rehabilitation 14:18 - From novice to ocean rowing in just six years 15:58 - Team Moar Than Us  18:30 - Welcome Team Oar the Rainbow 19:20 - Checking in with Oar the Rainbow one year later - physical and mental health 28:29 - Jak’s Question #1 for OtR: The benefit of bringing flatwater experience and knowledge of mechanics to the ocean 32:54 - Courtney - Don’t chase perfection and be flexible 35:39 - Jak’s Question #2 for OtR: The most unexpected things that happened during the crossing        38:33 - What to bring, what not to bring 40:37 - Jak’s Question #3 for OtR: So, would any of them row another ocean race? 41:11 - Jak’s Question #4 for OtR: Getting through the difficult times 43:31 - Post-OtR chatter 44:42 - The charities Moar Than Us is supporting 48:34 - Steady State Network news and notes . To see photos of Jak and Oar the Rainbow,  and to get links to the people, clubs, and events mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website. . Steady State Podcast is a production of Steady State Network. It is hosted and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering, books show guests, and is our sponsor and donor coordinator. Rachel writes our scripts and e-newsletter, and manages the website and social media. Our theme music is Open Mind by Soundroll. . SHOP SSN GEAR: www.steadystatenetwork.com/shop SIGN UP FOR THE SSN NEWSLETTER: www.steadystatenetwork.com/newsletter MAKE A DIFFERENCE: www.steadystatenetwork.com/support  CONNECT:  FB - /SteadyStateNetwork IG - @SteadyStateNetwork FB - /AllieswithOars IG - @AllieswithOars Connect on FB and IG with the hosts: Rachel Freedman - @RowSource Tara Morgan - @CmonBarber