Jefferson Airplane vs Jefferson Starship

Brian and Murdock get a letter from a fan of the show asking for the story behind Peter Frampton's long-time lost love - a very particular Gibson Les Paul guitar.Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTES:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humble_Piehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Framptonhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_Faceshttps://christiansmusicmusings.wordpress.com/tag/marc-mariana/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frampton_Comes_Alive!https://medium.com/@jonathanusa/this-live-album-was-recorded-to-fulfill-a-contract-and-wound-up-a-classic-c101a4d209c5Mr A and Mr M: The Story of A&M Records Frampton clip: https://www.facebook.com/roseanne.k.aitken/videos/2700717333557073?idorvanity=49095915148https://www.npr.org/2012/01/07/144799712/framptons-dream-guitar-recovered-decades-laterhttps://www.vaildaily.com/entertainment/peter-framptons-story-of-the-phoenix-his-guitar-returned-after-30-years/Return of the Phenix documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo3VOHNksSwUPI news report from Nov 7, 1980: https://www.upi.com/Archives/1980/11/07/The-show-must-go-on-for-British-rock-musician/3762342421200/https://www.npr.org/2012/01/07/144799712/framptons-dream-guitar-recovered-decades-laterhttps://www.thaliacapos.com/blogs/blog/peter-frampton-s-phenix-les-paul-the-guitar-that-rose-from-the-ashesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Brian and Murdock work to verify a story about some creatively stolen master tapes, and simultaneously learn to tell the difference between a Jefferson Airplane, a Jefferson Startship, and just a plain 'ol Starship.Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTES:https://jeffersonairplane.com/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Airplanehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_soundhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marty_Balinhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Society_(band)https://eddiesrockmusic.wordpress.com/2020/05/19/j-is-forjefferson-airplane-flight-log-1966-1976/https://www.elsewhere.co.nz/fromthevaults/4014/the-great-society-somebody-to-love-1966/https://www.newyorker.com/news/hendrik-hertzberg/newsweeks-glory-days-mine-toohttps://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/may/07/bill-graham-drigshttps://www.nytimes.com/1977/05/13/archives/the-pop-life.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Starshiphttps://ultimateclassicrock.com/grace-slick-quits-jefferson-starship/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Kantnerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Furniturehttp://alansalbumarchives.blogspot.com/2008/07/review-87-jefferson-starship-nuclear.htmlhttps://ultimateclassicrock.com/jefferson-airplane-jefferson-starship-starship/https://rockshowcritique.com/2016/03/interview-craig-chaquico/https://www.artsjournal.com/jazzbeyondjazz/2016/01/whys-nobody-mourning-paul-kantner-jefferson-airplane-flies-forever.htmlPlay That Rock N Roll podcast: https://youtu.be/MHpMqKfAg5QSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Brian and Murdock hunt down a newspaper ad from 1980 to corroborate a listener story involving a Deep Purple show that was campaigned against by... Deep Purple. Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTES:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Purplehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Curtis_(musician)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ritchie_Blackmorehttp://www.deep-purple.net/archive/68-76history/roundabout.htmhttps://www.thehighwaystar.com/thsblog/2025/06/23/that-went-well/https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/articles/features/sad_and_mysterious_story_of_deep_purples_original_singer_rod_evans-89196#https://www.thehighwaystar.com/specials/1980/newyorkmp.htmlhttps://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/birth-deep-purple-mk-ii-110212643.htmlCoverdale singing Nillson on his demo tape: https://open.spotify.com/track/0d63FM2uCuLuSw9pSSzyKj?si=db69ecd434424fc7https://www.thaliacapos.com/blogs/blog/the-insane-story-of-the-bogus-deep-purple-part-one:https://www.dpac.at/Bogus_Deep_Purple_1980.htmlhttps://outsiderrock.ca/2025/09/03/deep-purple-1980-an-interview-with-author-steve-mclean/https://mayobat.wordpress.com/tag/goeff-emery/Tim’s Vinyl Confessions podcast interview with Steve McLean: https://youtu.be/C6mNkHGNUnI?si=6CAhVv1UpYFCgnu_The actual ad Adam mentions in his letter: https://www.thaliacapos.com/blogs/blog/the-insane-story-of-the-bogus-deep-purple-part-twohttps://mayobat.wordpress.com/2017/03/30/who-do-we-think-we-are-part-two/https://www.thehighwaystar.com/specials/1980/darkside.htmlSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Brian and Murdock explore the King of Pop's long-running fascination with the theatrical - and the movie roles he ALMOST got to take.Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTES:https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/michael-jackson-wanted-to-play-jar-jar-binks-in-star-wars-56736/https://collider.com/star-wars-michael-jackson-jar-jar-binkshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_EOhttps://www.mjvibe.com/huge-movie-roles-almost-played-by-michael-jacksonhttps://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/07/03/michael.jackson.diana.ross/index.htmlhttp://oprah.com/own-oprahshow/who-discovered-michael-jackson-diana-ross-or-gladys-knighthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Jackson_(talent_manager)#Public_image_and_controversyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_relationships_of_Michael_Jacksonhttps://time.com/4135018/the-wiz-michael-jackson/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson%27s_Thriller_(music_video)https://www.mjjcommunity.com/threads/michael-jacksons-unrealised-film-career.200546/https://www.mjjcommunity.com/threads/john-landis.143211/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krzG7OKjzUA&t=15shttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlock_(film)How Rick Baker met John Landis - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHp9LUSgEv0&t=3shttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_American_Werewolf_in_Londonhttps://mouseplanet.com/the-untold-story-of-captain-eo/2773/#google_vignettehttps://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1092496918912993&id=100044580847515&set=a.643639267132096https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-03-07-ca-7919-story.htmlhttps://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2018/06/25/michael-jackson-and-david-geffen-the-operator/https://collider.com/hook-steven-spielberg-michael-jackson/​​https://variety.com/2015/film/news/michael-jackson-star-wars-jar-jar-binks-1201547616/E.T audio storybook: https://youtu.be/VB9v_BBi6Cg?si=dxfxoIPlfS3cmG4SSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Brian and Murdock go looking for the history on why one of the most successful rock bands ever simultaneously seems to be hated.Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTES:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagles_(band)Klosterman essay on The Eagles: https://ew.com/article/2013/06/20/book-excerpt-chuck-klosterman/https://groovyhistory.com/eagleshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyn_Johns_discographyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagles_(album)The Cameron Crowe 1975 Rolling Stone piece: http://www.theuncool.com/journalism/rs196-the-eagles/Excerpt from the Felder book: https://web.archive.org/web/20080718172259/http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article2638985.ecehttps://www.billboard.com/music/rock/eagles-hatred-explainer-defense-glenn-frey-6851078/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurel_CanyonLosAngeleshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desperado_(Eagles_album)https://www.theringer.com/music/2021/5/5/22420083/the-eagles-glen-frey-don-henley-50-yearshttp://www.robertchristgau.com/xg/bk-aow/eagles.phpBig Lebowski scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JlmvtAHhnchttps://rocknyc.live/don-henley-ejects-a-fan-from-a-show-for-shouting-don-felders-name.htmlhttps://www.loudersound.com/features/life-in-the-fast-lane-the-turbulent-tale-of-the-eagleshttps://decider.com/2016/12/02/history-of-the-eagles-documentary-netflix/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The guys get into the early history of the Van Halen brothers - and the already-rockstar who almost stalled things out before they started.Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTES:Van Halen Rising by Greg Renoff - https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/van-halen-rising-greg-renoff/1121176783Eruption: Conversations with Eddie Van Halen by Brad Tolinski - https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/eruption-brad-tolinski/1138833566https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2020-10-07/gene-simmons-eddie-van-halenThe Zero Demos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXZnB2xJ26sSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The fellas field a question about the guys who once took on the nasty name "Kingdom Clone" in the music press, and discuss why sounding like Led Zep is just not allowed by a certain type of rock n roll fan.Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTES:https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/greta-van-fleet-anthem-of-the-peaceful-army/https://www.allmusic.com/artist/kingdom-come-mn0000096804/biographyDanny Stag’s brother’s WaPo piece: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/style/1988/06/05/my-brother-the-rock-star/158337df-3bbf-48b3-9007-8500835cf052/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_Come_(band)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Reidhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Led_Zeppelinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TudbbVdz8oshttps://www.themaineedge.com/buzz/music/danny-stag-of-kingdom-come-talks-30th-anniversary-tour2011 Southeast of Heaven interview with Lenny Wolf: https://www.southeastofheaven.com/?p=55312011 Full in Bloom Lenny interview: https://fullinbloom.com/lenny-wolf-kingdom-come-interview/2015 James Kottak interview: https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/james-kottak-says-breakup-of-original-kingdom-come-lineup-was-caused-by-one-persons-big-mouth/Japanese Pure Rock interview from 1988: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpOtVhznrVQLA Times 1988 piece: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-07-17-ca-9661-story.htmlhttps://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/the-10-wildest-led-zeppelin-legends-fact-checked-153103/jimmy-page-once-owned-aleister-crowleys-former-home-154298/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The guys go looking for songs that bands wrote about being mad at their managers and record labels and come back covered in Southern rock, British bombast, and a little punk attitude.Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTES:https://www.npr.org/2019/11/15/779753813/songs-against-the-suitshttps://americansongwriter.com/the-meaning-behind-why-cant-i-by-liz-phair-and-why-she-may-have-been-ahead-of-her-time/https://meetinmontauk.com/2019/01/27/song-of-the-day-3859-one-down-live-ben-folds/https://www.loudersound.com/features/how-i-divered-lynyrd-skynyrd-by-al-kooperhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Kooperhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynyrd_Skynyrdhttps://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/lynyrd-skynyrds-new-if-i-leave-here-tomorrow-doc-10-things-we-learned-630575/Al Kooper interview: https://youtu.be/rP0wcXXe1zE?si=GAua0nrjeoW2q8-Dhttps://wcsx.com/2023/08/12/lynyrd-skynyrd-simple-man-ronnie-fought-to-get-it-on-the-album/https://www.reddit.com/r/musictheory/comments/e6f8a3/sweet_home_alabama_is_in_d/https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1CERyhdJyq/https://oneweekoneband.tumblr.com/post/51568795029/workin-for-mca-when-the-rock-roll-dreamshttps://thinkinginyoursleep.com/sweet-home-alabama-from-dream-to-mega-hit/https://ultimateclassicrock.com/lynyrd-skynyrd-gimme-back-my-bullets/https://ultimateclassicrock.com/lynyrd-skynyrd-nuthin-fancy/https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/queen-song-to-get-back-at-management/https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Sheffieldhttps://medium.com/@daviddesola/what-bohemian-rhapsody-gets-right-and-wrong-d04b5af410d1https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trident_Studioshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_(band)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_ControlSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Brian and Murdock follow the story of Fleetwood Mac from album 5 through 9, tracing the path of infights, sexual liaisons, and imposters that led to Mick Fleetwood finally meeting Lindsey Buckingham.Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTES:The Mark Blake book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Dreams/Mark-Blake/9781639367320https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Welch_(musician)https://themeggiesue.substack.com/p/tms-muse-of-the-week-judy-wonghttps://classicrockforpoc.tumblr.com/post/137364959800/groupie-jewel-eyed-judy-wong-43https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Gameshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Kirwanhttps://www.spectacularoptical.ca/2018/06/rip-danny-kirwan-fleetwood-macs-drunk-muppet/https://www.npr.org/2018/06/11/618869222/fleetwood-macs-forgotten-hero-guitarist-danny-kirwan-has-diedhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Weston_(guitarist)https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/mar/30/jenny-boyd-mick-fleetwood-jennifer-juniper-its-not-what-you-think-behind-the-star-studded-life-of-a-rock-stars-wifehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clifford_Davis_(music_manager)Original Rolling Stone reporting on fake Mac: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/fleetwood-mac-flak-manager-takes-name-not-members-on-tour-233735/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stretch_(band)Weston on being a scape goat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w-p3uxFSkohttps://pleasekillme.com/fakewood-mac/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroes_Are_Hard_to_FindSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Brian and Murdock go way back to start breaking down the details of who and what made up Fleetwood Mac for the seven years before Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham showed up.Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTESThe Mark Blake book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Dreams/Mark-Blake/9781639367320https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleetwood_Machttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Mayall_%26_the_Bluesbreakershttps://alanpaul.substack.com/p/its-a-hard-road-john-mayall-jasonhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Spencerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleetwood_Mac_(1968_album)https://www.wpr.org/culture/fleetwood-mac-mark-blake-dreamshttps://www.musicradar.com/news/early-fleetwood-mac-5-peter-green-jeremy-spencer-danny-kirwanhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Then_Play_Onhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiln_Househttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Welch_(musician)See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.