Orchestrating Your Career

Weijun received his undergraduate degree in Composition from the Eastman School of Music and his doctorate from the University at Buffalo. Now working as a freelance composer of film and concert music in Los Angeles, his works have been performed by renowned orchestras and chamber ensembles across the United States and China. In this episode, Weijun shares his incredible musical journey from growing up in Shanghai, China, starting composition at the very young age of 13, and moving to the US to study music and pursue a musical career. He also shares about the fascinating world of composing music for video games. WEIJUN’S EPISODE RESOURCES Fav Composer: Nobuo Uematsu Fav Piece of Classical Music: Mahler 6, the slow movement Fav Movie/Game Soundtrack: Final Fantasy 7 and Jurassic Park Book Recommendation: Every Good Boy Does Fine by Jeremy Denk Admired Musician: Jacob Collier Most Useful App on Phone: WeChat Final Resource to check out: The real world Audible Free Trial: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3VXwMWf Amazon Music Free Trial: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3W1Ttsr CONNECT WITH WEIJUN Website: https://www.weijunchen.com Listen to Weijun’s Music: https://www.weijunchen.com/music ORCHESTRATING YOUR CAREER  YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaCPf5xynqMHcFuQhCWrNCQ⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/orchestratingyourcareer Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/orchestratingyourcareer ABOUT THE HOST Rebekah Carpio received her BMus in clarinet performance from the Eastman School of Music. She was awarded a Fulbright grant to study at the Guildhall School of Music and Drama in their Orchestral Artistry program, which was in collaboration with the London Symphony Orchestra. She then went on to receive her PhD, also from the Guildhall School, researching the impact of education and community work in conservatoire training.  CONNECT WITH REBEKAH Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/bitesbybekah Websites: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.bitesbybekah.com⁠⁠⁠ TIMECODES 00:00 Podcast Intro 01:25 Episode Intro 02:02 Start of Interview 02:36 Weijun’s Musical Background 14:26 Applying for Music Schools 18:13 Composition Application Process 21:33 Experience at ESM 25:13 Plans for Post-ESM 25:41 The Traditional Composer Career Pathway 27:05 Going straight into a PhD 30:54 Aspen 34:05 Post PhD Studies 36:04 Visa Process After Graduating 37:33 One Way Ticket to LA 43:36 Learning from the Real World 44:10 Orchestrating Film Music 47:14 Composer Equipment 49:04 Transitioning into Career 50:29 Composing for Video Games 58:07 Getting a Brief 1:07:52 Current Career + Looking Ahead 1:13:25 Rapid Fire Q&A 1:22:02 Connect with Weijun 1:22:29 Episode Outro 1:23:54 Weijun’s Musical Score MUSIC IN THIS EPISODE Theme Music composed by Ben Roundtree: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0z6dZJL6GM⁠ PHOTO CREDIT ESM University at Buffalo Nobou Uematsu Jacob Collier *OYC participates in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means to earn fees by linking to ⁠Amazon.com⁠ and affiliated sites. Thank you for your support!

Jessica Wilkins got her undergraduate degree in Oboe Performance from the Eastman School of Music and her Masters from the University of Michigan. In the midst of her studies she started a sheet music business, and after graduating built up a freelance career in the Los Angeles area. After discovering how much she enjoyed coding, Jessica then shifted to a new career and now works full time as a software developer. Throughout our interview you’ll hear about how Jessica pivoted a number of times during her journey, and how she has been able to incorporate her passions into her life and career. JESSICA'S EPISODE RESOURCES: Fav Composer: Debussy Fav Piece of Classical Music: Saint-Saens Organ Symphony, met 2; Shostakovich 5; Strauss Oboe Concerto; Gordan Jacob Movie Soundtrack: Hook Book: Richard Brandon autobiography - is it this one? Losing My Virginity: How I Survived, Had Fun, and Made a Fortune Doing Business My Way; Shoe Dog: A Memoir by the Creator of Nike; Bad Blood Admired Musician: Ella Fitzgerald Final Resource to check out: Evan Carmichael’s Top 10 Series Audible Free Trial: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3VXwMWf  Amazon Music Free Trial: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3W1Ttsr CONNECT WITH JESSICA: Twitter: @codesgirl1991 JDW Sheet Music ORCHESTRATING YOUR CAREER  YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaCPf5xynqMHcFuQhCWrNCQ⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/orchestratingyourcareer Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/orchestratingyourcareer ABOUT THE HOST Rebekah Carpio received her BMus in clarinet performance from the Eastman School of Music. She was awarded a Fulbright grant to study at the Guildhall School of Music and Drama in their Orchestral Artistry program, which was in collaboration with the London Symphony Orchestra. She then went on to receive her PhD, also from the Guildhall School, researching the impact of education and community work in conservatoire training.  CONNECT WITH REBEKAH Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/bitesbybekah  Websites: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.bitesbybekah.com⁠⁠⁠ TIMECODES 00:00 Start of Episode 00:46 Podcast Intro 01:21 Episode Intro 2:10 Start of Interview 2:45 Jessica’s Musical Background 5:54 Auditioning for ESM Regionally (not in person) 7:07 Applying to Undergrad Schools 8:12 Deciding to Go To Eastman 10:42 Arriving at ESM 14:11 Studying at ESM 15:57 Next Steps After Graduating 18:57 Career Thoughts During Masters 20:59 Starting Sheet music business 26:29 Masters experience and starting to freelance 30:35 Transitioning from Masters: moving to LA and starting a freelance career 34:58 Building up a freelance career in LA 39:37 Building up sheet music business 45:42 Breaking down the pieces of LA freelance career 48:26 Pivoting to Software Engineering 55:36 Parallels between music and software engineering 57:54 How music fits into life now 1:03:13 Rapid Fire Q&A 1:07:30 Getting started in Coding 1:11:01 Connect with Jessica 1:12:08 Final Piece of Advice 1:12:47 Episode Outro 1:14:01 “A Little Bit of April Fool” (Solo English Horn) MUSIC IN THIS EPISODE Theme Music composed by Ben Roundtree: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0z6dZJL6GM⁠  Jessica Wilkins “A Little Bit of April Fool” (Solo English Horn): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21XddmdthrQ  PHOTO CREDIT ESM University of Michigan Debussy Ella Fitzgerald *OYC participates in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means to earn fees by linking to ⁠Amazon.com⁠ and affiliated sites. Thank you for your support!

ELLEN’S EPISODE RESOURCES: Current Fav Composer: John Williams and Maria Schneider Current Fav Piece of Classical Music: Verdi’s La forza del destino Fav Movie Soundtrack: Jurassic Park Book Rec: The Music Lesson by Victor Wooten Musician You Admire: Wynton Marsalis Most Useful App on Phone: TonalEnergy tuner and metronome app Social Media Accounts to Check Out: Kayla Solomon @tpt_solo and Alana Yee @alanabedootin Resource Rec: Finding mentors Audible Free Trial: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3VXwMWf Amazon Music Free Trial: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3W1Ttsr CONNECT WITH ELLEN: Website: https://www.ellenshinogle.com Instagram: @thetrumpetgal Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ellen.shinogle ORCHESTRATING YOUR CAREER  YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaCPf5xynqMHcFuQhCWrNCQ⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/orchestratingyourcareer Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/orchestratingyourcareer ABOUT THE HOST Rebekah Carpio received her BMus in clarinet performance from the Eastman School of Music. She was awarded a Fulbright grant to study at the Guildhall School of Music and Drama in their Orchestral Artistry program, which was in collaboration with the London Symphony Orchestra. She then went on to receive her PhD, also from the Guildhall School, researching the impact of education and community work in conservatoire training.  CONNECT WITH REBEKAH Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/bitesbybekah  Websites: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.bitesbybekah.com⁠⁠⁠ TIMECODES 00:00 Podcast Intro 01:29 Episode Intro 02:20 Start of Interview 03:03 Ellen’s musical background  03:42 Music as a career 04:22 Applying to music schools 05:24 Experience at ESM 07:50 Balancing education and performance degrees at ESM 10:10 Discovering Film Music and Moving to LA 11:06 Applying to Masters 11:45 Masters at USC 13:01 Career Shifts during Masters 14:43 Piecing Together a Freelance Career While Studying 15:37 Doctorate at UCLA 17:06 UCLA TAship 17:47 Disneyland Band - Auditioning 20:37 Disneyland Band - Playing and Performing 27:32 Other Pieces of Freelance Career 30:36 Ellen’s Doctorate 32:02 Transitioning from Doctorate to Career 33:33 Multiplying Pieces of a Freelance Career 36:27 A Typical Week of Work in Ellen’s Life 36:55 How to Prevent Burnout 39:59 Starting on Social Media  46:56 Looking to the Future  48:27 Movie Music 51:17 Every Freelance Career Looks Different 53:37 Rapid Fire Q&A 1:02:44 Episode Outro 1:03:57 James Burke’s The Magic Trumpet MUSIC IN THIS EPISODE Theme Music composed by Ben Roundtree: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0z6dZJL6GM⁠  PHOTO CREDIT ESM USC UCLA Santa Monica Symphony Orchestra West Side Chamber Orchestra Wynton Marsalis Maria Schneider *OYC participates in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means to earn fees by linking to ⁠Amazon.com⁠ and affiliated sites. Thank you for your support!

Shawn got his Bachelor’s degree in Popular Music/Keyboards at the University of Southern California, and now works as a Producer and a Music Director. Stacey got her Bachelor’s degree in Music Education with piano as her primary instrument from the Eastman School of Music, and then went on to get her Master’s and her Graduate Performance Diploma from the Longy School of Music in flute performance. She is an active performer on both piano and flute nationally and internationally. I loved learning about what a degree in popular music can look like from Shawn, and Stacey’s experience serving with the Air National Guard Band of the Northeast on flute and piccolo. It also was just so fascinating to see their different experiences in the worlds of classical and popular music, and how these two worlds intersect. STACEY AND SHAWN’S EPISODE RESOURCES: Current Fav Composer: Brahms, Rachmaninoff and Chopin Current Fav Piece of Classical Music (Stacey): Chopin’s Nocturnes (⁠Stacey's performance⁠) Current Favorite Popular Music Artists: ⁠Sleeping at Last⁠ (Stacey) and ⁠Switchfoot⁠ (Shawn) Book Rec: ⁠Harry Potter⁠ and ⁠Jim Dale audiobooks⁠ (Stacey); ⁠The Beatles: The Biography⁠ by Bob Spitz (Shawn) Musician You Admire: ⁠Jon Foreman from Switchfoot⁠ (Shawn); musical colleagues (Stacey) Most Useful App on Phone: YouTube and Dissect Podcast (Shawn); Messages (Stacey) Resource Rec: ⁠Eric Booth’s The Music Teacher’s Bible⁠ (Stacey) The Hymnal: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/album/1xOloIXXhimZeg6PNOVsv8?si=NuWdFp69TdGJYkBgN1BYRQ⁠  Audible Free Trial: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3VXwMWf⁠  Amazon Music Free Trial: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3W1Ttsr⁠ CONNECT WITH STACEY AND SHAWN: ⁠Stacey’s YouTube Channel⁠ Stacey’s Instagram: ⁠@littlestace714⁠ ⁠Stacey’s Website⁠ ⁠Stacey’s Spotify⁠ ⁠Shawn’s YouTube Channel⁠ Shawn’s Instagram: ⁠@shawnshalim⁠, and/or check out ⁠@alabasterco⁠ Shawn’s Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/artist/0hX5qtLjLrMxgbnI6PpSJW?si=IQPaApNyQCirFZnxWE85bw⁠  ORCHESTRATING YOUR CAREER  YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaCPf5xynqMHcFuQhCWrNCQ⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/orchestratingyourcareer⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/orchestratingyourcareer⁠ ABOUT THE HOST Rebekah Carpio received her BMus in clarinet performance from the Eastman School of Music. She was awarded a Fulbright grant to study at the Guildhall School of Music and Drama in their Orchestral Artistry program, which was in collaboration with the London Symphony Orchestra. She then went on to receive her PhD, also from the Guildhall School, researching the impact of education and community work in conservatoire training.  CONNECT WITH REBEKAH Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/bitesbybekah⁠ Websites: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.bitesbybekah.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ TIMECODES 00:00 Podcast Intro 00:22 Episode Intro 2:09 Start of Interview 3:23 Stacey’s Musical Beginnings 9:26 Shawn’s Musical Beginnings 16:50 How Shawn got into Popular Music 24:25 Shawn’s USC Popular Music Degree 36:22 Stacey’s ESM Music Ed/Piano Experience 41:19 Stacey’s Masters Experience at Longy 51:23 Shawn’s Popular Music Career Thoughts in Undergrad 54:14 Shawn’s Transition into Career 1:01:00 Shawn’s Start in Popular Music Career 1:06:06 Stacey’s Freelance Career 1:21:40 Shawn’s Current Career 1:26:37 Rapid Fire Q&A 1:40:51 Final pieces of advice and how to connect with Shawn and Stacey 1:45:38 Episode Outro 1:47:02 Shawn and Stacey Performing with the Urbana Worship Team MUSIC IN THIS EPISODE ⁠Theme Music composed by Ben Roundtree⁠ PHOTO CREDIT ⁠USC⁠ ⁠ESM⁠ ⁠Longy School of Music⁠ ⁠Patrice Russian⁠ ⁠Vincent Lenti⁠ ⁠Marco Granados⁠ *OYC participates in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means to earn fees by linking to ⁠Amazon.com⁠ and affiliated sites. Thank you for your support!

Annie Trimber is a social media manager, content creator, photographer and food stylist. She studied at Northwestern University, where she got a double major in flute performance and business and marketing. Annie began playing the flute at the age of 5, and had high career goals of a performance career in music. But that came to a screeching halt when she diagnosed with debilitating tendonitis in her third year at Northwestern. She had to take the fall semester of her final year off, and figure out how to pivot to a new career pathway after spending 15 years of her life dedicated to music. It’s amazing to hear how she pulled on her love for food and sustainability to forge a new pathway filled with unique and rich experiences in the food blogging, content creation space. ANNIE’S EPISODE RESOURCES: Current Fav Composer: Shostakovich, Beethoven and Bach Current Fav Piece of Classical Music: Bach Cello Suite 1 Fav Movie Soundtrack: Salt Burn and Star Wars Go-to Lazy Meal: a toastie; peanut butter with dates and chocolate chips Book Rec: The Goldfinch by Donna Tartt Musician You Admire: Labyrinth, Queen Herby Social Media Account that offers inspo: @relauren Most Useful App on Phone: Adore Rush and reddit Resource Rec: Range by David Epstein Audible Free Trial: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3VXwMWf Amazon Music Free Trial: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3W1Ttsr CONNECT WITH ANNIE: Instagram: @annietrimber Food Blog: annietrimber.com ORCHESTRATING YOUR CAREER YouTube Instagram Facebook ABOUT THE HOST Rebekah Carpio received her BMus in clarinet performance from the Eastman School of Music. She was awarded a Fulbright grant to study at the Guildhall School of Music and Drama in their Orchestral Artistry program, which was in collaboration with the London Symphony Orchestra. She then went on to receive her PhD, also from the Guildhall School, researching the impact of education and community work in conservatoire training.  CONNECT WITH REBEKAH Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/bitesbybekah Websites: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.bitesbybekah.com⁠⁠⁠ TIMECODES 00:00 Start of Episode 00:46 Podcast Intro 01:31 Episode Intro 02:59 Start of Interview 03:50 Annie’s Musical Background 5:49 Applying to Music Schools 8:30 Conservatoire vs University 15:14 Northwestern 17:33 Pressure Cooker Environment 19:26 Exploring Business and Marketing 22:13 Performance Injury 27:17 Identify Crisis 29:43 Getting into Food 41:29 A New Spark 44:26 Experience in Social Media + Food Content Creation 52:16 Parallels Between Musicians and Content Creation 56:30 Avoiding Injury Today 1:02:55 When Your Hobby Becomes Your Job 1:08:45 Rapid Fire Q&A 1:16:27 Final Piece of Advice 1:17:46 Get in touch with Annie 1:18:53 Episode Outro 1:20:05 Annie’s Performance and Foodie Videos MUSIC IN THIS EPISODE Theme Music composed by Ben Roundtree: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0z6dZJL6GM⁠ PHOTO CREDIT Dmitri Shostakovich Beethoven Bach Labyrinth Taylor Queen Herby *OYC participates in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means to earn fees by linking to ⁠Amazon.com⁠ and affiliated sites. Thank you for your support!

Dylan Price is a composer and pianist in Los Angeles who works as a freelance writer for Bleeding Fingers Music, a collective, co-founded by Hans Zimmer, of composers creating scores for film and television. Dylan has written music for shows including MasterChef on Fox and Foodtastic on Disney+, and regularly contributes to Sony Music Publishing’s Extreme Music library. He also serves as Piano Accompanist and Vocal Coach at the performing arts college AMDA. Dylan got his Bachelor’s degrees in Music Theory from the Eastman School of Music, but was always interested in the world of film and media. In our interview, Dylan breaks down numerous different aspects of composing music for tv, film and music libraries, and what his current role looks like as a remote writer for Bleeding Fingers. DYLAN’S EPISODE RESOURCES: Fav Composer: Hans Zimmer Fav Piece of Classical Music: Chopin Piano Etudes, with pianist Andrei Gavrilov Fav Movie Soundtrack: Pirates of the Caribbean and The Lion King Book Recs: 1989 by George Orwell; Sapiens and Homo Deus by Yuval Noah Harari Admired Musicians: Hans Zimmer, Jacob Collier and Jeff Beal Recommended Resource: YouTube Premium Audible Free Trial: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3VXwMWf⁠ Amazon Music Free Trial: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3W1Ttsr⁠ CONNECT WITH DYLAN: Dylan’s Website: ⁠https://www.dylanpricemusic.com⁠ Dylan’s Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/dprice112/⁠ Extreme Music Library (Dylan's Music): ⁠https://www.extrememusic.com/search?isLyricsSearch=false&query=Dylan%20Price⁠ ORCHESTRATING YOUR CAREER YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaCPf5xynqMHcFuQhCWrNCQ ⁠Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/orchestratingyourcareer Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/orchestratingyourcareer ABOUT THE HOST Rebekah Carpio received her BMus in clarinet performance from the Eastman School of Music. She was awarded a Fulbright grant to study at the Guildhall School of Music and Drama in their Orchestral Artistry program, which was in collaboration with the London Symphony Orchestra. She then went on to receive her PhD, also from the Guildhall School, researching the impact of education and community work in conservatoire training. CONNECT WITH REBEKAH Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/bitesbybekah⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.bitesbybekah.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ TIMECODES 00:00 Start of Episode 00:38 Intro to Podcast 01:12 Intro to Episode 2:35 Start of Episode 3:13 Dylan’s Musical Background 6:23 Starting to Write Music 9:33 Majoring in Music Theory at ESM 12:37 Applying for Composition and Music Theory 14:05 Experience at ESM 14:55 Writing a Musical Tune 16:57 Career Aspirations at ESM 19:08 Shifting to Composition 22:58 Why Film Music? 25:09 Balancing Film Music during Classical Studies 26:52 Starting Empire Film Music Ensemble 33:51 Copyright and Performing Movie Scores 37:17 Internships 40:43 Behind the scenes of scoring a movie 45:54 Working for Hans Zimmer’s Remote Control 47:51 Transitioning Into Career 55:45 Working as Christian’s Assistant 1:04:23 Dylan’s Current Career 1:06:12 Remote Writing for Bleeding Fingers 1:11:19 Looking to the Future 1:14:25 “Bleeding Fingers” Vibe Check 1:19:44 My Rapid Fire Q&A 1:27:12 Final Piece of Advice 1:28:22 Connect with Dylan 1:29:19 Episode Outro 1:30:48 Clips of Dylan's Compositions MUSIC IN THIS EPISODE Theme Music composed by Ben Roundtree: ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0z6dZJL6GM⁠ ⁠ Compositions from Dylan Price (check out more on his website) PHOTO CREDIT ⁠Masterchef⁠ ⁠Foodtastic⁠ ⁠ADMA⁠ ⁠ESM⁠ ⁠Hans Zimmer⁠ ⁠Jeff Beal⁠ ⁠Tom Salta⁠ ⁠Mark Snow⁠ ⁠Mike Patterson⁠ ⁠John Williams⁠ ⁠Henry Jackman⁠ ⁠Jacob Collier⁠ *OYC participates in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means to earn fees by linking to ⁠Amazon.com⁠ and affiliated sites. Thank you for your support!

Dean Jamal Rossi was the Joan and Martin Messinger Dean of the Eastman School of Music from 2014-2024. He earned his Bachelor’s degrees in saxophone performance and music education from Ithaca College, his Master’s of Music from the University of Michigan, and Doctorate of Musical Arts from the Eastman School of Music. Dean Rossi was faced with his biggest professional decision when he decided to move away from the pathway of becoming a saxophone professor, to a career in music administration, serving as Dean of the School of Music at the University of South Carolina, and Assistant and Associate Dean of the Ithaca College School of Music before coming to Eastman. It’s fascinating to learn more about Dean Rossi’s musical journey. He shares his advice on making important decisions, especially when facing challenging crossroads in life, what the job of Dean looks like, including the responsibilities that come with such a leadership role, and how he has taken concrete steps to balance and prioritize his family throughout his career. DEAN ROSSI’S EPISODE RESOURCES: Current Fav Composer: Brahms, Stravinsky, Gershwin, Porter, anything by Paul McCartney Current Fav Piece of Classical Music: Barber’s Adagio for Strings, Ravel’s Pavane for a Dead Princess Fav Movie Soundtrack: Out of Africa by John Berry Book Rec: Good to Great by Jim Collins Musician You Admire: Diana Krall Most Useful App on Phone: Windy App Resource Rec: Finding mentors in life Audible Free Trial: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3VXwMWf Amazon Music Free Trial: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3W1Ttsr CONNECT WITH DEAN ROSSI: ESM Bio: https://www.esm.rochester.edu/directory/rossi-jamal/ Email: [email protected] ORCHESTRATING YOUR CAREER  YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaCPf5xynqMHcFuQhCWrNCQ⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/orchestratingyourcareer Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/orchestratingyourcareer ABOUT THE HOST Rebekah Carpio received her BMus in clarinet performance from the Eastman School of Music. She was awarded a Fulbright grant to study at the Guildhall School of Music and Drama in their Orchestral Artistry program, which was in collaboration with the London Symphony Orchestra. She then went on to receive her PhD, also from the Guildhall School, researching the impact of education and community work in conservatoire training.  CONNECT WITH REBEKAH Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/bitesbybekah  Websites: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.bitesbybekah.com⁠⁠⁠ TIMECODES 00:00 Podcast Intro 1:25 Episode Intro 2:59 Start of Interview 5:53 Dean Rossi Musical Beginnings 10:53 Pursuing music professionally 12:40 Undergrad at Ithaca - Doing a Double Major 17:07 Doing a Doctorate 19:01 After Graduating from Michigan + Teaching 23:01 After Doctorate Degree + 1st job 25:37 Moving to South Dakota 27:07 Moving to Music Administration at South Dakota 29:29 Assistant Dean at Ithaca 32:27 The Transition into Music Admin  34:29 Turning Down ESM + Navigating Difficult Decisions 41:08 Prioritizing Family and Finding Balance 44:31 Dean at ESM - What’s the Job? 49:04 Hiring Faculty 53:26 Highlights of the Job 57:40 Challenges of the Job 1:02:57 AI and the future of music 1:05:35 Looking Forward to Retirement 1:07:48 Advice for Going into Music Admin 1:09:20 Rapid Fire Q&A 1:13:20 Final piece of advice and connecting with Dean Rossi 1:15:11 Episode Outro 1:16:16 Dean’s Rossi Performance MUSIC IN THIS EPISODE Theme Music composed by Ben Roundtree: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0z6dZJL6GM⁠  PHOTO CREDIT Ithaca College University of Michigan ESM University of South Carolina Ithaca College ESM *OYC participates in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means to earn fees by linking to ⁠Amazon.com⁠ and affiliated sites. Thank you for your support!

At the time of our interview, Fabian was Senior Manager of Youth Orchestra Los Angeles, also known as YOLA, the LA Philharmonic’s music education program. He now serves as YOLA’s Gift Planning Officer. He studied clarinet performance, getting his undergraduate degree at Florida State University and his masters at The University of Texas at Austin, and then went to Philadelphia to study with Ricardo Morales at Temple University. He held jobs in music administration working for The Philadelphia Orchestra, the Aspen Music Festival, and Oberlin College before moving to Los Angeles to work with YOLA. CONNECT WITH FABIAN AND YOLA LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fabian-fuertes-2552951b5 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fabzfuertes/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/fabian.fuertes.7 Work email: [email protected] YOLA's Website: https://www.laphil.com/learn/yola/youth-orchestra-los-angeles FABIAN’S EPISODE RESOURCES Current Fav Composer: Mozart Current Fav Piece of Classical Music: Mozart's Gran Partita Fav Movie Soundtrack: anything by John Williams Go-to Resource for Music Educators: Dr. Robert Duke Book Rec: The Inner Game of Tennis by W. Timothy Gallwey Musician You Admire: Ricardo Morales Audible Free Trial: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3VXwMWf Amazon Music Free Trial: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3W1Ttsr ORCHESTRATING YOUR CAREER  YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaCPf5xynqMHcFuQhCWrNCQ⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/orchestratingyourcareer Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/orchestratingyourcareer ABOUT THE HOST Rebekah Carpio received her BMus in clarinet performance from the Eastman School of Music. She was awarded a Fulbright grant to study at the Guildhall School of Music and Drama in their Orchestral Artistry program, which was in collaboration with the London Symphony Orchestra. She then went on to receive her PhD, also from the Guildhall School, researching the impact of education and community work in conservatoire training.  CONNECT WITH REBEKAH Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/bitesbybekah  Websites: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.bitesbybekah.com⁠⁠⁠ TIMECODES 00:00 Start of Video 0:57 Podcast Intro 01:40 Episode Intro 3:04 Start of Interview 3:36 Fabian’s Musical Background 7:51 Considering Music as a Career 11:57 Undergrad Experience at Florida State University 12:55 Music, Athletics, and Performance Anxiety 14:10 Career Aspirations in Undergrad 15:13 After Undergrad 16:14 Masters at University of Texas  19:11 After Masters 20:15 Studying with Ricardo Morales 25:28 Career Change: Moving from Performance to Music Admin 28:46 Working for Philadelphia Orchestra 31:40 Working for Aspen Music Festival 36:02 Working for Oberlin 38:46 Interviewing and Working for YOLA 43:32 Working for YOLA/Parallels between music training and working in music admin 48:41 Investing in Self 51:10 Board of Directors for Arts for LA 52:36 Impact of Mentors 53:58 Advice for Young Musicians 1:00:13 Rapid Fire Q&A 1:03:31 Connect with Fabian 1:05:07 Episode Outro 1:06:23 “What is YOLA?” MUSIC IN THIS EPISODE Theme Music composed by Ben Roundtree: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0z6dZJL6GM⁠  What is YOLA? | An Overview of our Young Symphony of Change: https://youtu.be/0uPfSipoE9c?si=HxVDyQu7Mu9XIRhj PHOTO CREDIT FSU UT Austin Ricardo Morales Philadelphia Orchestra Aspen Oberlin Mozart John Williams Ricardo Morales *OYC participates in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means to earn fees by linking to ⁠Amazon.com⁠ and affiliated sites. Thank you for your support!

Jamal Moore is an internationally acclaimed singer, songwriter, and recording artist, known for his smooth, rich tone and his vocal versatility. He studied vocal performance at the Eastman School of Music, before building up a diverse career bridging the genres of classical and pop music. Throughout the interview Jamal shares his insights into some incredible experiences: how his vocal quintet came to open for the Backstreet Boys on their European tour; his audition process for performing with Beyonce at Coachella; singing on movie soundtracks like The Lion King, Black Panther Wakanda Forever, and The Color Purple; soloing with the LA Philharmonic; putting out his own music as a singer songwriter, and more. CONNECT WITH JAMAL MOORE Website: ⁠https://www.jamalmoore.com⁠ YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@SingJamalSing⁠ Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/singjamalsing/⁠ Facebook: ⁠http://facebook.com/singjamalsing⁠ Twitter/X: ⁠http://twitter.com/singjamalsing⁠ JAMAL’S EPISODE RESOURCES: Fav Composer: Hugo Wolf (especially Gebet) Fav Piece of Classical Music: Barber’s Adagio For Strings and Biebl’s Ave Maria Fav Pop Song: John Legend's All Of Me Fav Movie Soundtrack: Black Panther Wakanda ForeverBook Rec: ⁠The Power of Your Subconscious Mind by Joseph Murphy ⁠ Musician You Admire: ⁠Jacob Collier⁠ Most Useful Phone App: Playscore Social Media Account to Follow: @iamtabithabrown Resource Recommendation: Social Media (when used well!) ⁠Audible Free Trial⁠ ⁠Music Free Trial⁠ TIMECODES 00:00 Intro to OYC 01:14 Intro to Episode 02:31 Start of Interview 03:53 Jamal’s Musical Background 05:50 Applying to music schools 07:26 ESM Vocal course8:52 Baritone Voice 09:37 Joining The Yellow Jackets Acapella Group 11:38 Exploring other genres 13:13 “Locking In” 14:18 The Sing-Off TV Show 17:55 Career Thinking 19:32 Singing Healthily 21:15 Transitioning Into Career 21:40 Starting a new group - the Exchange 23:05 “Figuring it out” - with the Exchange 27:30 Opening for the Backstreet Boys 33:30 Next Career Steps After Touring 38:00 Singing With Beyonce for Coachella 41:10 Applying Study To Career 42:25 After Coachella and Making YouTube Covers 45:30 Recording for TV and Film 55:30 A Day of Recording for TV and Film 58:32 Bringing Back Classical Music 59:32 Singing with the LA Phil 1:00:25 Balancing Classical and Pop Music in Career 1:01:32 Vocal Versatility 1:09:57 Rapid Fire Q&A 1:19:27 Future Plans 1:24:20 Final Piece of Advice 1:26:03 Connect with Jamal 1:27:20 Outro 1:28:51 Jamal’s Performances ORCHESTRATING YOUR CAREER YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaCPf5xynqMHcFuQhCWrNCQ⁠ ⁠Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/orchestratingyourcareer⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/orchestratingyourcareer⁠ ABOUT THE HOST Rebekah Carpio received her BMus in clarinet performance from the Eastman School of Music. She was awarded a Fulbright grant to study at the Guildhall School of Music and Drama in their Orchestral Artistry program, which was in collaboration with the London Symphony Orchestra. She then went on to receive her PhD, also from the Guildhall School, researching the impact of education and community work in conservatoire training. CONNECT WITH REBEKAH Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/bitesbybekah⁠ Websites: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.bitesbybekah.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ Swiftie Newsletter: ⁠https://dearreadernewsletter.substack.com/?r=33wk9p&utm_campaign=pub-share-checklist⁠ MUSIC IN THIS EPISODE ⁠Theme Music composed by Ben Roundtree⁠⁠ ⁠Jamal’s Performance of Deep River⁠ ⁠Jamal’s Performance of This Is Why I Love You⁠ PHOTO CREDIT ⁠ESM⁠ ⁠Backstreet Boys tour⁠ ⁠Beyonce⁠ *OYC participates in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means to earn fees by linking to ⁠Amazon.com⁠ and affiliated sites. Thank you for your support!

Annie Ray is a the Orchestra Director and Performing Arts Department Manager at Annandale High School, and recipient of the 2024 Music Educator Award at this year’s Grammys. She studied at the University of North Texas, doing a double major with Harp Performance and Music Education and began teaching at Annandale High School in 2020. Throughout the interview she shares practical advice on how to approach teaching music, and her messages of authenticity, inclusivity and meeting every student where they are at is so inspiring. Of course we touch on her experience attending the Grammys and meeting some exciting celebrities as well! CONNECT WITH ANNIE RAY: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/annie.lehman1 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/blondeharpy/ Email: [email protected] ANNIE’S EPISODE RESOURCES: Fav Composer: Katie O’Hara LaBrie Fav Piece of Classical Music: Mahler’s Symphony No. 2 “Resurrection” Fav Movie Soundtrack: How To Train Your Dragon Book Rec: How To Keep House When You’re Drowning by KC Davis Musician You Admire: Irving Ray, Jacob Collier and Fulton Lee Most Useful Phone App: Google Calendar Resource Recommendation: Demystifying Disability by Emily Ladau Audible Free Trial: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3VXwMWf Amazon Music Free Trial: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/3W1Ttsr OTHER LINKS/RESOURCES MENTIONED: Annie’s TedX Talk Giving Bach United Sound Downing Gives Bach TIMECODES 00:00 Intro to OYC 01:14 Intro to Episode 02:26 Start of Interview 3:55 Annie’s Musical Background  6:09 Majoring in Performance and Music Ed 8:49 Transition into Career 10:30 Starting at Annandale High School 12:52 Intro to New Programs 13:49 Parents Orchestra 18:56 Crescendo Orchestra 29:35 Applying for a Grammy 33:28 Grammy experience 36:08 Taylor Swift chat 38:26 Finding joy and passion in classical music  43:26 Being authentically human at work and home 48:30 Advice for music educators 50:35 Rapid Fire Q&A 54:25 Final Piece of Advice 54:56 Connect on social media 55:49 Episode Outro 56:49 Next Episode Teaser 57:17 Annie and Irving’s Performance ORCHESTRATING YOUR CAREER  YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaCPf5xynqMHcFuQhCWrNCQ⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/orchestratingyourcareer/ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/orchestratingyourcareer ABOUT THE HOST Rebekah Carpio received her BMus in clarinet performance from the Eastman School of Music. She was awarded a Fulbright grant to study at the Guildhall School of Music and Drama in their Orchestral Artistry program, which was in collaboration with the London Symphony Orchestra. She then went on to receive her PhD, also from the Guildhall School, researching the impact of education and community work in conservatoire training.  CONNECT WITH REBEKAH Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/bitesbybekah  Websites: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.bitesbybekah.com⁠⁠⁠ Swiftie Newsletter: https://dearreadernewsletter.substack.com/?r=33wk9p&utm_campaign=pub-share-checklist MUSIC IN THIS EPISODE Theme Music composed by Ben Roundtree: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0z6dZJL6GM⁠  Annie and Irving’s Performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etw78E1mGcw PHOTO CREDIT Annandale High School - https://annandalehs.fcps.edu/about/history Photo of Annie and Class at Annandale - https://annandaletoday.com/annandale-teacher-annie-ray-wins-a-grammy/ Grammy for Educator - https://www.grammy.com/news/2024-music-educator-award-recipient-announced-annie-ray-2024-grammys University of North Texas - https://www.unt.edu/locations/denton.html Katie O’Hara Lebrie - https://www.katieoharalabrie.com Jacob Collier - FilmMagic/FilmMagic for Life is Beautiful Music & Art Festival *OYC participates in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means to earn fees by linking to ⁠Amazon.com⁠ and affiliated sites. Thank you for your support!