Money Makers

This week on the Money Makers Podcast, Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook and three times winner of the AIC’s Best Broadcast Journalist award, is joined by Charlie Morris of ByteTree Research. Their discussion, recorded before the results of the US midterm elections were known, includes: the unwinding of extreme market concentration; the then-upcoming US midterm elections, oil prices and bond yields; and portfolio positioning across defensive trusts, real estate and alternative assets. This conversation was recorded on Tuesday 03 November, before the results of the US midterm elections were known. *** COMING SOON - The Investment Trusts Handbook 2027 *** Out 15 December - pre-order now: https://lnk.to/ITHB27 The Investment Trusts Handbook 2027 is the tenth edition of the highly regarded annual handbook for anyone interested in investment trusts – often referred to as the City's best-kept secret, or the connoisseur's choice among investment funds. It is expertly edited by well-known author and professional investor Jonathan Davis, founder and editor of the Money Makers newsletter and podcast. The next edition of the Handbook, an independent educational publication, is now in its final stages of preparation ahead of publication on 15 December. With articles by more than 20 different authors, including analysts, fund managers and investment writers, plus more than 80 pages of detailed data and analysis, it is an indispensable companion for anyone looking to invest in the investment trust sector. Order your copy now and be among the first to receive it. *** Jonathan is now writing market and other comments on Substack (jdinvestor.substack.com), and for those of you who follow Money Makers on social media, two new channels are now available - TikTok (@moneymakers_its) and Bluesky (@money-makers.co). Do give us a follow! Timestamps 0:00:36 - Reflecting on this week's developments 0:03:40 - This week's guest 0:04:34 - The Investment Trusts Handbook 2027 0:06:48 - Charlie Morris 0:09:24 - Trump after the US Midterms 0:13:01 - The priority for an investment strategy 0:16:14 - A short break 0:16:59 - Bitcoin and Ethereum 0:20:25 - The model portfolios 0:25:44 - Currencies 0:27:19 - Close If you enjoy the weekly podcast, why not also try the Money Makers Circle? This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content every week, including interviews, performance data, links to third party research, market/portfolio reviews and regular comments from the editor. A subscription costs £12 a month or £120 for one year, with a two week free trial available for new subscribers. This week, as well as the usual features, the Circle features a profile of Pantheon Infrastructure (PINT). Future profiles include North American Income (NAIT) and BioPharma Credit (BPCR). Our weekly subscriber email includes a comprehensive summary of all the latest news plus the week's biggest share price, NAV and discount movements. Subscribe and you will never miss any important developments from the sector. For more information please visit https://money-makers.co/circle. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free for the foreseeable future. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to more than 360 podcasts since we launched in 2020. You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Please note that this podcast is provided for educational purposes only and nothing you hear should be considered as investment advice. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk. Produced by Ben Gamblin - www.bgprofessional.co.uk

This week on The Money Makers Podcast, award-winning host Jonathan Davis (editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook and winner of the AIC Best Broadcast Journalist Award, now for three years running) is joined by Richard Shepherd-Cross, manager and founder of Custodian Property Income REIT (CREI), in a discussion including the contraction of the commercial property sector, the trust's acquisition of private property companies, and how now may be a good time to invest in real estate. Jonathan is now writing market and other comments on Substack (jdinvestor.substack.com), and for those of you who follow Money Makers on social media, two new channels are now available - TikTok (@moneymakers_its) and Bluesky (@money-makers.co). Do give us a follow! *** OUT NOW: The 2026 Investment Trusts Handbook *** Available to order from Harriman House: https://harriman-house.com/authors/jonathan-davis/the-investment-trusts-handbook-2026/9781804094358 The Investment Trusts Handbook 2026 is the ninth edition of the highly regarded annual handbook for anyone interested in investment trusts – often referred to as the City’s best-kept secret, or the connoisseur’s choice among investment funds. It is expertly edited by well-known author and professional investor Jonathan Davis, founder and editor of the Money Makers newsletter and podcast. It is available through bookshops and extensively online. The next edition of the Handbook, an independent educational publication, is now in preparation. With articles by 30 different authors, including analysts, fund managers and investment writers, plus more than 80 pages of detailed data and analysis, the latest edition is an indispensable companion for anyone looking to invest in the investment trust sector. *** Timestamps 0:00:37 - Introduction 0:01:36 - Comparing REITs to commercial property investment trusts 0:05:30 - Explaining commercial property consolidation 0:09:29 - Buying private property companies 0:22:17 - Dividend cover 0:23:47 - A short break 0:24:32 - Valuing commercial property investment trusts 0:32:50 - Who are commercial property investment trusts for? 0:38:17 - Choosing a commercial property sub-sector 0:41:32 - Quick questions on data centres and the UK budget 0:45:12 - Close If you enjoy the weekly podcast, why not also try the Money Makers Circle? This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content every week, including interviews, performance data, links to third party research, market/portfolio reviews and regular comments from the editor. A subscription costs £12 a month or £120 for one year, with a two week free trial available for new subscribers. This week, as well as the usual features, the Circle features a profile of Oakley Capital Investments (OCI). Future profiles include Pantheon Infrastructure (PINT) and North American Income (NAIT). Our weekly subscriber email includes a comprehensive summary of all the latest news plus the week's biggest share price, NAV and discount movements. Subscribe and you will never miss any important developments from the sector. For more information please visit https://money-makers.co/circle. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free for the foreseeable future. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to our 360 podcasts since launch in 2020. You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Please note that this podcast is provided for educational purposes only and nothing you hear should be considered as investment advice. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk. Produced by Ben Gamblin - www.bgprofessional.co.uk

Regular contributor Andrew McHattie, the editor of the Investment Trusts Newsletter, returns this week to the Money Makers Investment Trusts Podcast, with award-winning host Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook and AIC Best Broadcast Journalist for three years running. Their discussion this time includes AIC research comparing investment trusts performance with their open-ended rivals, Seraphim Space's spectacular full-year results, and corporate activity in the private equity sector. This episode was recorded on the morning of Friday 23 October 2026, before the outcome of the vote at Baillie Gifford US Growth was known. In the event Saba Capital's attempt to oust the board was defeated by 52% to 48%. Jonathan is now writing market and other comments on Substack (jdinvestor.substack.com), and for those of you who follow Money Makers on social media, two new channels are now available - TikTok (@moneymakers_its) and Bluesky (@money-makers.co). Do give us a follow! Timestamps 0:00:37 - Introduction 0:01:16 - Looking back over 30 years 0:02:12 - Follow a trust or a manager? 0:03:39 - Investment trusts vs open-ended equivalents 0:09:18 - Seraphim Space's (SSIT) spectacular performance 0:15:09 - Listed private equity 0:24:31 - A short break 0:25:16 - International Biotechnology Trust (IBT) 0:28:02 - AVI Japan Opportunities Trust (AJOT) 0:31:33 - US Solar Fund (USF) 0:34:54 - Brown Advisory US Smaller Companies (BASC) 0:37:04 - Scottish Oriental Smaller Companies (SST) 0:41:20 - Close If you enjoy the weekly podcast, why not also try the Money Makers Circle? This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content every week, including interviews, performance data, links to third party research, market/portfolio reviews and regular comments from the editor. A subscription costs £12 a month or £120 for one year, with a two week free trial available for new subscribers. This week, as well as the usual features, the Circle features a profile of Murray Income (MUT), with Oakley Capital Investments (OCI) coming soon. Our weekly subscriber email includes a comprehensive summary of all the latest news plus the week's biggest share price, NAV and discount movements. Subscribe and you will never miss any important developments from the sector. For more information please visit https://money-makers.co/circle. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free for the foreseeable future. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to our nearly 360 podcasts since we launched in 2020. You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Please note that this podcast is provided for educational purposes only and nothing you hear should be considered as investment advice. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk. Produced by Ben Gamblin - www.bgprofessional.co.uk

This week on The Money Makers Podcast, award-winning host Jonathan Davis (editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook and winner of the AIC Best Broadcast Journalist Award, now for three years running) is joined by Craig Baker, chairman of the Investment Committee at Alliance Witan (ALW), and Richard Sennitt, manager of Schroder Oriental Income (SOI). Jonathan is now writing market and other comments on Substack (jdinvestor.substack.com), and for those of you who follow Money Makers on social media, two new channels are now available - TikTok (@moneymakers_its) and Bluesky (@money-makers.co). Do give us a follow! *** OUT NOW: The 2026 Investment Trusts Handbook *** Available to order from Harriman House: https://harriman-house.com/authors/jonathan-davis/the-investment-trusts-handbook-2026/9781804094358 The Investment Trusts Handbook 2026 is the ninth edition of the highly regarded annual handbook for anyone interested in investment trusts – often referred to as the City’s best-kept secret, or the connoisseur’s choice among investment funds. It is expertly edited by well-known author and professional investor Jonathan Davis, founder and editor of the Money Makers newsletter and podcast. It is available through bookshops and extensively online. The next edition of the Handbook, an independent educational publication, is now in preparation. With articles by 30 different authors, including analysts, fund managers and investment writers, plus more than 80 pages of detailed data and analysis, the latest edition is an indispensable companion for anyone looking to invest in the investment trust sector. *** Timestamps: 0:00:37 - Introduction and Craig Baker 0:01:44 - Reflecting on the year 0:05:31 - The trust's performance 0:11:04 - Active versus passive management 0:14:33 - Flexibility on risk 0:19:55 - Manager weightings 0:25:38 - Changes to the share register 0:30:51 - The dividend 0:31:40 - A short break 0:32:25 - Richard Sennitt 0:33:22 - The history of the trust 0:37:19 - The strong long-term performance 0:42:58 - Differentiating this trust 0:44:33 - The dividend yield 0:51:00 - Wealth manager sector withdrawal 0:54:08 - Asia-Pacific risks 0:59:08 - Withdrawing the performance fee 1:00:56 - Close If you enjoy the weekly podcast, why not also try the Money Makers Circle? This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content every week, including interviews, performance data, links to third party research, market/portfolio reviews and regular comments from the editor. A subscription costs £12 a month or £120 for one year, with a two week free trial available for new subscribers. This week, as well as the usual features, the Circle features a profile of JPMorgan European Growth and Income (JEGI). Future profiles include Murray Income (MUT) and Oakley Capital Investments (OCI). Our weekly subscriber email includes a comprehensive summary of all the latest news plus the week's biggest share price, NAV and discount movements. Subscribe and you will never miss any important developments from the sector. For more information please visit https://money-makers.co/circle. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free for the foreseeable future. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to our nearly 360 podcasts since we launched in 2020. You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Please note that this podcast is provided for educational purposes only and nothing you hear should be considered as investment advice. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk. Produced by Ben Gamblin - www.bgprofessional.co.uk

This week on The Money Makers Podcast, award-winning host Jonathan Davis (editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook and winner of the AIC Best Broadcast Journalist Award, now for three years running) is joined by the co-managers of Fidelity Emerging Markets (FEML), Nick Price and Chris Tennant, in a discussion including the fund's 99% recovery, short-selling strategies, and AI plus commodity outlooks. This discussion was recorded on Tuesday 06 October 2026. Jonathan is now writing market and other comments on Substack (jdinvestor.substack.com), and for those of you who follow Money Makers on social media, two new channels are now available - TikTok (@moneymakers_its) and Bluesky (@money-makers.co). Do give us a follow! *** OUT NOW: The 2026 Investment Trusts Handbook *** Available to order from Harriman House: https://harriman-house.com/authors/jonathan-davis/the-investment-trusts-handbook-2026/9781804094358 The Investment Trusts Handbook 2026 is the ninth edition of the highly regarded annual handbook for anyone interested in investment trusts – often referred to as the City’s best-kept secret, or the connoisseur’s choice among investment funds. It is expertly edited by well-known author and professional investor Jonathan Davis, founder and editor of the Money Makers newsletter and podcast. It is available through bookshops and extensively online. The next edition of the Handbook, an independent educational publication, is now in preparation. With articles by 30 different authors, including analysts, fund managers and investment writers, plus more than 80 pages of detailed data and analysis, the latest edition is an indispensable companion for anyone looking to invest in the investment trust sector. *** Timestamps 0:00:37 - Introduction 0:01:57 - The FEML results 0:04:03 - The use of shorts and other derivatives 0:08:15 - The size of the trust 0:11:12 - A concentrated portfolio and the AI theme 0:18:49 - A short break 0:19:33 - The commodity cycle 0:21:48 - Outdated thinking on emerging markets 0:24:58 - The regional make up of emerging markets 0:26:57 - Looking at Latin America 0:28:27 - Assessing risks 0:33:56 - Investment trust structure advantages 0:36:08 - Close If you enjoy the weekly podcast, why not also try the Money Makers Circle? This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content every week, including interviews, performance data, links to third party research, market/portfolio reviews and regular comments from the editor. A subscription costs £12 a month or £120 for one year, with a two week free trial available for new subscribers. This week, as well as the usual features, the Circle features a profile of Polar Capital Technology (PCT). Future profiles include JPMorgan European Growth and Income (JEGI) and Murray Income (MUT). Our weekly subscriber email includes a comprehensive summary of all the latest news plus the week's biggest share price, NAV and discount movements. Subscribe and you will never miss any important developments from the sector. For more information please visit https://money-makers.co/circle. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free for the foreseeable future. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to more than 350 podcasts since we launched in 2020. You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Please note that this podcast is provided for educational purposes only and nothing you hear should be considered as investment advice. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk. Produced by Ben Gamblin - www.bgprofessional.co.uk

As Saba Capital takes aim once again at Baillie Gifford US Growth (ticker: USA), chairman Tom Burnet and co-manager Kirsty Gibson are this week's guests on the Money Makers Investment Trusts Podcast with Jonathan Davis (editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook and winner of the AIC Best Broadcast Journalist Award, now for three years running), where they discuss Saba's requisition at the upcoming AGM and the importance of shareholder participation in the vote, as well as the trust's performance and portfolio holdings. This discussion was recorded on Monday 28 September 2026. Jonathan is now writing market and other comments on Substack (jdinvestor.substack.com), and for those of you who follow Money Makers on social media, two new channels are now available - TikTok (@moneymakers_its) and Bluesky (@money-makers.co). Do give us a follow! *** OUT NOW: The 2026 Investment Trusts Handbook *** Available to order from Harriman House: https://harriman-house.com/authors/jonathan-davis/the-investment-trusts-handbook-2026/9781804094358 The Investment Trusts Handbook 2026 is the ninth edition of the highly regarded annual handbook for anyone interested in investment trusts – often referred to as the City’s best-kept secret, or the connoisseur’s choice among investment funds. It is expertly edited by well-known author and professional investor Jonathan Davis, founder and editor of the Money Makers newsletter and podcast. It is available through bookshops and extensively online. The next edition of the Handbook, an independent educational publication, is now in preparation. With articles by 30 different authors, including analysts, fund managers and investment writers, plus more than 80 pages of detailed data and analysis, the latest edition is an indispensable companion for anyone looking to invest in the investment trust sector. *** Timestamps 0:00:37 - Introduction 0:01:56 - The upcoming vote at USA 0:05:11 - The importance of voting 0:11:39 - Performance and volatility 0:15:43 - The sell-off from the peak 0:25:25 - Funding a cash exit 0:30:56 - Reducing SpaceX exposure before IPO 0:33:55 - A short break 0:34:40 - AI holdings 0:43:19 - AI bubble concerns? 0:48:28 - Portfolio turnover 0:49:41 - Developing the trust 0:52:55 - Reflections on the investment trusts structure 0:57:18 - Close If you enjoy the weekly podcast, why not also try the Money Makers Circle? This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content every week, including interviews, performance data, links to third party research, market/portfolio reviews and regular comments from the editor. A subscription costs £12 a month or £120 for one year, with a two week free trial available for new subscribers. This week, as well as the usual features, the Circle features a profile of Literacy Capital (BOOK). Future profiles include Polar Capital Technology (PCT) and JPMorgan European Growth and Income (JEGI). Our weekly subscriber email includes a comprehensive summary of all the latest news plus the week's biggest share price, NAV and discount movements. Subscribe and you will never miss any important developments from the sector. For more information please visit https://money-makers.co/circle. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free for the foreseeable future. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to more than 350 podcasts since we launched in 2020. You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Please note that this podcast is provided for educational purposes only and nothing you hear should be considered as investment advice. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk. Produced by Ben Gamblin - www.bgprofessional.co.uk

Peter Hewitt, former fund manager, director at the AIC, and director at Odyssean, joins Jonathan Davis (editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook and winner of the AIC Best Broadcast Journalist Award 2024 and 2025) in this edition of the Money Makers Investment Trusts podcast, in a discussion including emerging markets, smaller companies, and renewables and infrastructure trusts. This discussion was recorded on Friday 25 September 2026. Jonathan is now writing market and other comments on Substack (jdinvestor.substack.com), and for those of you who follow Money Makers on social media, two new channels are now available - TikTok (@moneymakers_its) and Bluesky (@money-makers.co). Do give us a follow! *** OUT NOW: The 2026 Investment Trusts Handbook *** Available to order from Harriman House: https://harriman-house.com/authors/jonathan-davis/the-investment-trusts-handbook-2026/9781804094358 The Investment Trusts Handbook 2026 is the ninth edition of the highly regarded annual handbook for anyone interested in investment trusts – often referred to as the City’s best-kept secret, or the connoisseur’s choice among investment funds. It is expertly edited by well-known author and professional investor Jonathan Davis, founder and editor of the Money Makers newsletter and podcast. It is available through bookshops and extensively online. The next edition of the Handbook, an independent educational publication, is now in preparation. With articles by 30 different authors, including analysts, fund managers and investment writers, plus more than 80 pages of detailed data and analysis, the latest edition is an indispensable companion for anyone looking to invest in the investment trust sector. *** Timestamps 0:00:37 - Introduction 0:01:08 - The state of play 0:05:38 - Emerging markets trusts 0:14:38 - Smaller companies 0:24:00 - A short break 0:24:45 - Renewables and infrastructure 0:34:25 - Year to date performance 0:38:25 - Performance over three years 0:41:53 - Close If you enjoy the weekly podcast, why not also try the Money Makers Circle? This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content every week, including interviews, performance data, links to third party research, market/portfolio reviews and regular comments from the editor. A subscription costs £12 a month or £120 for one year, with a two week free trial available for new subscribers. This week, as well as the usual features, the Circle features a profile of Murray International (MYI). Future profiles include Literacy Capital (BOOK) and Polar Capital Technology (PCT). Our weekly subscriber email includes a comprehensive summary of all the latest news plus the week's biggest share price, NAV and discount movements. Subscribe and you will never miss any important developments from the sector. For more information please visit https://money-makers.co/circle. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free for the foreseeable future. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to more than 350 podcasts since we launched in 2020. You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Please note that this podcast is provided for educational purposes only and nothing you hear should be considered as investment advice. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk. Produced by Ben Gamblin - www.bgprofessional.co.uk

In this edition of the Money Makers podcast, Jonathan Davis (editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook and winner of the AIC Best Broadcast Journalist Award 2024 and 2025) is joined by Richard Staveley, manager of Rockwood Strategic (RKW), in a discussion including the performance and investment approach of the Trust and its focus on UK small cap opportunities; market trends including the state of the small cap market; and recent portfolio moves including new positions in UK housing. This discussion was recorded on Friday 18 September 2026. Jonathan is now writing market and other comments on Substack (jdinvestor.substack.com), and for those of you who follow Money Makers on social media, two new channels are now available - TikTok (@moneymakers_its) and Bluesky (@money-makers.co). Do give us a follow! *** OUT NOW: The 2026 Investment Trusts Handbook *** Available to order from Harriman House: https://harriman-house.com/authors/jonathan-davis/the-investment-trusts-handbook-2026/9781804094358 The Investment Trusts Handbook 2026 is the ninth edition of the highly regarded annual handbook for anyone interested in investment trusts – often referred to as the City’s best-kept secret, or the connoisseur’s choice among investment funds. It is expertly edited by well-known author and professional investor Jonathan Davis, founder and editor of the Money Makers newsletter and podcast. It is available through bookshops and extensively online. The next edition of the Handbook, an independent educational publication, is now in preparation. With articles by 30 different authors, including analysts, fund managers and investment writers, plus more than 80 pages of detailed data and analysis, the latest edition is an indispensable companion for anyone looking to invest in the investment trust sector. *** Timestamps 0:00:37 - Introduction 0:01:24 - The LinkedIn video clips 0:03:24 - Explaining UK small cap performance 0:08:12 - Looking at the portfolio 0:14:37 - Videndum 0:22:10 - A short break 0:22:55 - Three new positions 0:32:05 - The upcoming budget and confidence 0:35:03 - Defence companies 0:38:38 - Long-standing holdings 0:41:44 - Reflecting on recent years’ performance 0:45:19 - Close If you enjoy the weekly podcast, why not also try the Money Makers Circle? This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content every week, including interviews, performance data, links to third party research, market/portfolio reviews and regular comments from the editor. A subscription costs £12 a month or £120 for one year, with a two week free trial available for new subscribers. This week, as well as the usual features, the Circle features a profile of Murray International (MYI). Future profiles include Literacy Capital (BOOK) and Polar Capital Technology (PCT). Our weekly subscriber email includes a comprehensive summary of all the latest news plus the week's biggest share price, NAV and discount movements. Subscribe and you will never miss any important developments from the sector. For more information please visit https://money-makers.co/circle. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free for the foreseeable future. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to more than 350 podcasts since we launched in 2020. You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Please note that this podcast is provided for educational purposes only and nothing you hear should be considered as investment advice. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk. Produced by Ben Gamblin - www.bgprofessional.co.uk

This week on the Money Makers podcast, Jonathan Davis (editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook and winner of the AIC Best Broadcast Journalist Award 2024 and 2025) is joined by Alec Letchfield, manager of the Hansa Investment Company (HAN), in a discussion including the trust's restructuring and governance, the investment strategy, and managing the wide discount. This discussion was recorded on Monday 14 September 2026. Jonathan is now writing market and other comments on Substack (jdinvestor.substack.com), and for those of you who follow Money Makers on social media, two new channels are now available - TikTok (@moneymakers_its) and Bluesky (@money-makers.co). Do give us a follow! *** OUT NOW: The 2026 Investment Trusts Handbook *** Available to order from Harriman House: https://harriman-house.com/authors/jonathan-davis/the-investment-trusts-handbook-2026/9781804094358 The Investment Trusts Handbook 2026 is the ninth edition of the highly regarded annual handbook for anyone interested in investment trusts – often referred to as the City’s best-kept secret, or the connoisseur’s choice among investment funds. It is expertly edited by well-known author and professional investor Jonathan Davis, founder and editor of the Money Makers newsletter and podcast. It is available through bookshops and extensively online. The next edition of the Handbook, an independent educational publication, is now in preparation. With articles by 30 different authors, including analysts, fund managers and investment writers, plus more than 80 pages of detailed data and analysis, the latest edition is an indispensable companion for anyone looking to invest in the investment trust sector. *** Timestamps 0:00:37 - Introduction 0:00:59 - The history of Hansa (HAN) 0:05:52 - Attracting new investors 0:11:55 - The trust’s offering 0:20:06 - Decision-making and the risk profile 0:22:33 - A short break 0:23:18 - Framing performance targets 0:28:21 - Fees 0:30:57 - Confidence in active management 0:32:52 - The discount 0:37:48 - The outlook from here 0:42:38 - The UK 0:45:54 - Close If you enjoy the weekly podcast, why not also try the Money Makers Circle? This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content every week, including interviews, performance data, links to third party research, market/portfolio reviews and regular comments from the editor. A subscription costs £12 a month or £120 for one year, with a two week free trial available for new subscribers. This week, as well as the usual features, the Circle features a profile of Baillie Gifford UK Growth (BGUK). Future profiles include Murray International (MYI) and Literacy Capital (BOOK). Our weekly subscriber email includes a comprehensive summary of all the latest news plus the week's biggest share price, NAV and discount movements. Subscribe and you will never miss any important developments from the sector. For more information please visit https://money-makers.co/circle. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free for the foreseeable future. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to more than 350 podcasts since we launched in 2020. You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Please note that this podcast is provided for educational purposes only and nothing you hear should be considered as investment advice. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk. Produced by Ben Gamblin - www.bgprofessional.co.uk

This week on the Money Makers podcast, Jonathan Davis (editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook and winner of the AIC Best Broadcast Journalist Award 2024 and 2025) is joined by Andrew McHattie, the editor of the Investment Trusts Newsletter, returns to the podcast with his comments on the latest developments in the sector. This discussion was recorded on Fri 11 Sep 2026. Jonathan is now writing market and other comments on Substack (jdinvestor.substack.com), and for those of you who follow Money Makers on social media, two new channels are now available - TikTok (@moneymakers_its) and Bluesky (@money-makers.co). Do give us a follow! *** OUT NOW: The 2026 Investment Trusts Handbook *** Available to order from Harriman House: https://harriman-house.com/authors/jonathan-davis/the-investment-trusts-handbook-2026/9781804094358 The Investment Trusts Handbook 2026 is the ninth edition of the highly regarded annual handbook for anyone interested in investment trusts – often referred to as the City’s best-kept secret, or the connoisseur’s choice among investment funds. It is expertly edited by well-known author and professional investor Jonathan Davis, founder and editor of the Money Makers newsletter and podcast. It is available through bookshops and extensively online. The next edition of the Handbook, an independent educational publication, is now in preparation. With articles by 30 different authors, including analysts, fund managers and investment writers, plus more than 80 pages of detailed data and analysis, the latest edition is an indispensable companion for anyone looking to invest in the investment trust sector. *** Timestamps: 0:00:37 - Introduction 0:01:01 - Alternative Income REIT (AIRE) 0:08:39 - Aquila European Renewables (AERS) 0:11:51 - Achilles Investment Trust (AIC) 0:14:23 - Saba Capital and Gore Street Energy Storage (GSF) 0:23:04 - A short break 0:23:48 - BlackRock World Mining (BRWM) 0:30:49 - Murray Income Trust (MUT) 0:35:27 - VH Global Infrastructure (ENRG) 0:38:18 - Rights and Issues Investment Trust (RIII) 0:42:01 - Looking forward 0:43:57 - Close If you enjoy the weekly podcast, why not also try the Money Makers Circle? This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content every week, including interviews, performance data, links to third party research, market/portfolio reviews and regular comments from the editor. A subscription costs £12 a month or £120 for one year, with a two week free trial available for new subscribers. This week, as well as the usual features, the Circle features a profile of Ruffer Investment Company (RICA). Future profiles include Baillie Gifford UK Growth (BGUK) and Murray International (MYI). Our weekly subscriber email includes a comprehensive summary of all the latest news plus the week's biggest share price, NAV and discount movements. Subscribe and you will never miss any important developments from the sector. For more information please visit https://money-makers.co/circle. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free for the foreseeable future. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to our more than 350 podcasts since we launched in 2020. You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Please note that this podcast is provided for educational purposes only and nothing you hear should be considered as investment advice. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk. Produced by Ben Gamblin - www.bgprofessional.co.uk