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196 Jeremy Stone Interviewing Daniel Shaw
40:39Today's host is Jeremy Stone. You may recognize him as the guy who does many of the product showcase videos you see on the GunMag Warehouse social accounts. Jeremy is interested in doing some podcasting, so today he's hosting The Mag Life Podcast, with Daniel Shaw as his guest. Listen in as Jeremy and Daniel discuss the Marine Corps, the current political climate, and how to strengthen the Second Amendment community. https://media.blubrry.com/gunfightercast/s/content.blubrry.com/gunfightercast/196_Jeremy_Stone_Interviewing_Daniel_Shaw.mp3 Host: Jeremy Stone Guest: Daniel Shaw Introduction/Timeline: Stephanie Kimmell 0:50 Jeremy starts out by asking Daniel some questions about his military service. The first question is "Why did you go into the Marines, specifically?" Daniel says that he grew up in a religious household and he was allowed to read military books with Christian leanings. He mentions long spells without television when he'd pick up some books. In those military books, he kept seeing Marines pop up who people seemed to really respect. He looked into it more and discovered it's known to be difficult recruit training and the challenge drew him in. Daniel Shaw - Iraq, 2003. Jeremy comments that it probably sucked at the time to have the TV taken away, though it was probably pretty good for him. Daniel says, "Oh yeah, nothing wrong with it. Especially now. It's probably the best thing we could do right now is turn off the news and go outside." 3:25 Next question: "What did you learn in the military that you could not learn in the civilian world?" Daniel asks, "How long is this podcast!" Then he says, "The biggest thing is... how to learn." He reflects on his time in school as a youngster and how he did all the things he was supposed to do and he hated it. Then he got to recruit training and he had to check all the boxes and do what he was told and it was really pretty simple, as long as you give 100 percent and you're not completely dumb. Then he started getting into different fields where he was required to teach and people were really listening to him and paying attention to what he was saying, taking notes like he did when he was a younger Marine. He found out that he really needed to make sure he was getting things right. So he dove into some research and he didn't even know how to research, so he learned how to research and evaluate information sources. Later on, during his time in the Marine Corps, he started and finished college and then started using what he'd learned. Understanding what the objective is that he needed to learn in order to increase his capabilities allowed him to increase the capabilities of others around him — to make his Marines better warfighters and himself a better leader. So, he read, researched, and tested a lot — whatever he needed to do to increase his capabilities in any given thing. So now when he runs into something, he studies the details of whatever it is to try to get an edge in any way that he can just through gaining knowledge and understanding. Jeremy comments on how important it is to put in the effort if you want to get good at something. As an example, in high school, he didn't like math and didn't think he was good at it. But when he got to college and took an accounting class, his mindset switched. All of a sudden, it was valuable to him. He could see the value behind accounting, he could see the numbers behind it. The difference between the two scenarios is that in high school, he didn't understand the reasons behind the study. So, the information he learned in high school didn't seem as valuable as what he learned in college. 07:13 Was the training the best part of Daniel's service — training other guys to get ready, or something else? Daniel says the best part of his time in the Marine Corps was the exposure to so many different people from different walks of life, from different areas,
195 Brian Nelson | Red Oktober and Marine Corps Marksmanship Tech
58:08Just in time for the big Red Oktober event happening tomorrow at Pro Gun Club in Boulder City, NV, Brian Nelson joins Daniel to talk about the annual Kalash celebration and how Scoring Technologies helps in training and competitions. Brian was the original founder and match director of Red Oktober, put on by Rifle Dynamics He works at Scoring Technologies as a marksmanship subject matter expert for a military program with the goal of making qualifications run more efficiently through the use of electronic scoring. Listen in as Brian explains how this innovative technology is changing the world of training for instructors and students alike. Host: Daniel Shaw Guest: Brian Nelson Introduction/Timeline: Stephanie Kimmell 1:34 Daniel starts out by reminiscing on his time in the Marine Corps, and how some of the guys participated in competitive shooting to augment their training. 2:15 What has the Marine Corps learned from competition shooting? How are they now implementing that into making better warfighters? Brian explains that if you want to predict lethality, you need to know the exact amount of time it takes for a marine to get a hit. For the first time in over a decade, they've made a major change to the annual rifle qualification range shoot, which used to be a version of service rifle competition with bigger targets. They've changed it now to a different course of fire to get an easier look at the scores. With the technology, it's possible to eliminate human data-entry errors, without expending the extensive effort and time it previously took to get the data He adds that they're also supporting the schools of infantry, on the west and east coast in the new infantry Marine Corps. They previously ran a seven-week course, but now they're doing pilot programs that are 14 weeks. They measure marksmanship with the IMA (Infantry Marksmanship Assessment), which is scored the same as a competitive match — points shot divided by the time it takes to shoot it. With the new electronic scoring method, the amount of time saved in recording scores to the point that they can be interpreted cannot be overstated. Additionally, it's much harder for people to cheat on their scores. 12:26 Daniel asks, how can a leader in the Marine Corps use this tech to inspire his guys to train more and to find where their deficiencies are? He comments on how there are always competitions among the ranks and Brain says people love incentives. "When you have a bag of Skittles for the guy who has the highest hit factor on one part of the IMA, like, 'Hey, this is the bag of Skittles that the best shooter gets.'" It's amazing to see what people will do for that." 14:26 Daniel notes that Brian is well suited to be a match director, noting that Red Oktober is Brian's baby. Brian says this years' Red Oktober is going to have some fun marksmanship challenges, which is something that he personally enjoys with a variety of platforms. Also, it's a place for all of the AK fans within the gun industry to connect with each other. He says that pretty much anyone who has anything to do with AKs will be there demoing, and the stages and ambiance are just going to be fun. Brian says he plays through the Call of Duty campaign mode as he designs the courses and stages for the match. 16:23 What is this year's Red Oktober going to be like? Brian says that the stages are all designed uniquely and differently with new challenges. Some of it is stuff that you won't see anywhere else. You may have to shoot with a stage gun (one that's provided), and Brian considers safety, fairness, and the cool factor in all of this. Also, there will be more than just AKs. They've got a couple of Dragunovs to use on the stage to make a couple of hundred-yard shots. Battlefield Vegas is partnering with them this year and they're bringing a T-62 tank, which won't be stage equipment, though it'll be driving around and there will be a prese...
193 – Steve Tarani
1:05:53On this week’s episode of The Mag Life Podcast, Daniel is joined by the immensely knowledgeable, Steve Tarani. With decades in the defense, law enforcement, and intelligence communities, Steve is a highly-respected firearm, defensive tactics, bladed weapons, and personal protection instructor. As of late, Tarani has specialized in awareness-based training, having incorporated this into his training classes as well as his books. Together, Daniel and Steve discuss the vital importance of soft skills versus hard skills, situational awareness training, and overcoming fear in a fight. https://media.blubrry.com/gunfightercast/content.blubrry.com/gunfightercast/193-Steve_Tarani.mp3 Host: Daniel Shaw Guest: Steve Tarani Introduction/Timeline: Eric Huh 00:37 What is your profession? Daniel starts off the conversation by asking what Steve’s occupation entails. In a general sense, Steve Tarani would describe himself as a teacher of practical hard and soft skills. Hard skills is defined by talents or abilities that can be measured, often associated with on-the-job training such as programming, bookkeeping, foreign language skills, shooting, and the like. Soft skills by contrast relate more towards universal traits such as leadership, teamwork, communication, and adaptability. Over the decades of his teaching experience, Steve has leaned more toward soft skills as he finds these to be more applicable in day-to-day situations. Although he’s made a career in training others, Steve constantly strives to keep his knowledge and skills up to date. In Steve’s line of work, keeping up with the most current information in tactics and methodologies is essential. “So, I keep one foot in the training world and one foot in the ops world… I really don’t want to be one of those guys ‘Hey twenty years ago when I did this…’ ya know? Times change, people change, tactics change, gear changes. For your information to remain relevant to you, you to have to be in it, I think, day-to-day.” 04:26 Reacting to threats and close protection security The conversation shifts to the topic of close protection security and reacting to unexpected threats. Obviously, bodyguard work differs greatly from normal self-defense tactics. The vast majority of concealed carry shooters would react to a threat by immediately going for their gun and drawing. Steve reveals that in the world of close protection, he was taught that immediately going for the gun is a setup for failure. The time it takes to go for the firearm is ample time for the attacker to shoot at the VIP that you’ve been charged to protect. Instead, Steve was taught to prioritize observing threats in their entirety and to move the client away from danger. He uses the tragic incident of the Titanic as an analogy, saying if one could observe and see icebergs coming from a distance, it would make far more sense to simply avoid a head-on collision with them. In his eyes, the firearm is akin to a “lifeboat” on the Titanic, the last resort option and not a primary one. Processing and reacting to threats fall into three main categories: being proactive, active, and reactive. Taking notes from the book Left of Bang: How the Marine Corps' Combat Hunter Program Can Save Your Life by Jason Riley, Steve explains that the proactive and active phases are how we utilize our soft skills before a dangerous incident occurs or the “bang.” How we react after to the initial encounter with a threat is the reactive phase which forces out the hard skills. For example, soft skills such as using verbal de-escalation or analyzing a situation can avoid a conflict but should it occur anyways, the fighting abilities that come from hard skills come into play. 08:52 Soft skills vs hard skills in your everyday life Daniel asks Steve to explain the use of soft skills versus hard skills in the context of the average armed citizen. Steve believes that everything requires context and that people should a...