S34 Ep6: Casey Anthony, Truth or Lies: Leonards Out

In the final episode of our series on Charles and Jennifer Chia, we examine the known evidence and unanswered questions that continue to surround their tragic case. With insight from retired detectives Allan Fox and Ron Dreher, we revisit the timeline, key suspects, and overlooked details from the original 1989 investigation. From a mysterious ransom call to a suspicious shovel found near the burial site, every piece of information could be vital. If you remember anything—no matter how small—please come forward. This is a haunting, unsolved murder of two children that still cries out for justice.Our Sponsors:* Check out Warpath: https://bit.ly/4ixJCm3Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/foul-play-crime-series/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this third installment of our series on Charles and Jennifer Chia, we delve into the discovery of their remains nine months after they vanished on October 18, 1989. Retired Detective Allan Fox and Retired Detective Ron Dreher share their firsthand experiences of this tragic case, describing the remote location where the children’s bodies were found and discussing the investigative steps that followed. We also explore how the authorities confirmed Charles and Jennifer’s identities and how the grisly discovery has shaped ongoing efforts to find their killer. Though more than three decades have passed, the children’s mother, Ann, is still seeking answers—and hoping that someone will come forward with information that could finally bring resolution.Key TopicsRecap of Charles and Jennifer’s Disappearance: A brief overview of the events leading to their disappearance and the efforts by law enforcement to locate them.Discovery of the Remains: How the children’s bodies were found by a Caltrans employee in a shallow grave near Highways 70 and 89, miles away from their Reno home.Insights from Law Enforcement: Commentary from Allan Fox and Ron Dreher on the crime scene, the surrounding area, and the significance of evidence (including a shovel found at the scene).Identification and Aftermath: Matching the children’s clothing to the descriptions from the day they went missing, and the grim confirmation via dental charts.Mother’s Plea for Justice: Ann Chia’s heartbreaking statement about her children and her call for anyone with information to speak up.Why This Episode MattersThis episode underscores the profound impact of Charles and Jennifer’s tragic story and highlights the continued efforts to uncover what truly happened. By revisiting the scene and hearing directly from detectives who were there, listeners gain a deeper understanding of the challenges law enforcement faced—and the desperate need for any new leads that might finally solve this case.Listener DiscretionWhile this episode does not include graphic forensic details, it addresses the sensitive topic of child abduction and murder. Some listeners may find parts of the discussion upsetting.Call to ActionIf you have any information regarding the disappearance or deaths of Charles and Jennifer Chia, please contact the Reno Police Department. If you wish to remain anonymous, you can reach out to us at itsfoulplay.com, and we will forward any tips to law enforcement.Looking AheadIn our fourth and final episode of this series, we will examine the evidence, publicly known suspects, and the open questions that linger decades after Charles and Jennifer were taken from their family. Be sure to tune in to learn how you can help keep their memories alive—and possibly move the case forward.Thank you for joining us on this journey. Every detail, no matter how small, has the potential to help. If you’ve found this episode valuable, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with friends.Our Sponsors:* Check out Warpath: https://bit.ly/4ixJCm3Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/foul-play-crime-series/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this episode, we continue our investigation into the heartbreaking case of Charles and Jennifer Chia, two young children who vanished in 1989. Retired Detectives Allan Fox and Ron Dreher help piece together the circumstances surrounding their disappearance, shedding light on key locations and witness accounts. As Shane retraces their last known steps, questions arise about how and when they went missing—did they board the school bus that day, or was something more sinister at play? Despite a busy neighborhood, no one reported anything unusual, leading investigators to believe the children may have known their abductor. Their mother, Ann, was still in Taiwan when they were reported missing, returning home to a nightmare no parent should endure. Join us as we explore the lingering mysteries of this unsolved case and the relentless pursuit of justice.If you have any information, please contact the Reno Police Department or reach out anonymously through our website.Our Sponsors:* Check out Warpath: https://bit.ly/4ixJCm3Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/foul-play-crime-series/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this episode of Foul Play, we delve into the heartbreaking and chilling unsolved case of the Chia children from Reno, Nevada. On October 18, 1989, Charles, 8, and his younger sister Jennifer, 6, vanished after a seemingly ordinary day, only for their tragic fate to unfold amid the media frenzy following a devastating earthquake. With firsthand accounts from retired detectives and a detailed look at the events surrounding their disappearance, we explore the lives of these kind, innocent children and the lingering questions that have haunted the community ever since. If you have any information about this case, please come forward, as even the smallest detail could be the key to solving this mystery.Our Sponsors:* Check out Warpath: https://bit.ly/4ixJCm3Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/foul-play-crime-series/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this episode of Foul Play, Shane and Gemma are joined by Mike, an expert in detecting deception through body language, as they dive deep into the perplexing case of Sister Cathy. The trio scrutinizes the most promising suspects and unpacks intriguing visuals from The Keepers, shedding new light on evidence that has long baffled investigators. Combining detailed analysis with engaging discussion, they explore the nuances of witness behavior and the subtle cues that may reveal the truth behind the murder. Tune in for an insightful and suspenseful investigation that challenges everything you thought you knew about this cold case.Our Sponsors:* Check out Warpath: https://bit.ly/4ixJCm3Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/foul-play-crime-series/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In the final episode of Foul Play: Casey Anthony - Truth or Lies, we unravel the shocking verdict delivered after Casey Anthony's high-profile trial. The jury's decision to acquit Casey of murder, manslaughter, and child neglect leaves lingering questions about what truly happened to Caylee Anthony. Rob Dick shares his firsthand insights, highlighting the prosecution's challenges and the troubling details that suggest Casey’s potential culpability. This episode also examines Casey's life after the trial and the emotional impact on her family. What do you think happened to Caylee? Let us know your thoughts as we conclude this gripping series.Our Sponsors:* Check out Warpath: https://bit.ly/4ixJCm3Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/foul-play-crime-series/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this episode of Foul Play: Casey Anthony - Truth or Lies, we delve deeper into the six-week trial that captivated the nation. Witness testimony reveals insights from Casey's friends, housemates, and her mother, Cindy, painting a chilling portrait of events leading up to Caylee's disappearance. Emotional moments in court highlight Cindy Anthony’s distress and Casey’s unsettling jailhouse demeanor. With 116 witnesses and 400 pieces of evidence presented, the prosecution and defense make their closing arguments. Was justice served? Stay tuned for the jury's verdict in the next episode.Our Sponsors:* Check out Warpath: https://bit.ly/4ixJCm3Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/foul-play-crime-series/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this episode, we jump to May 24, 2011—the opening day of Casey Anthony’s trial—and hear the prosecution and defense lay out two very different narratives about Caylee’s fate. We explore Rob Dick’s firsthand recollections, including his time living with Casey and her family while she was out on bail. The episode also features key trial audio clips, giving insight into the shifting accusations and tense courtroom exchanges. Join us as we break down the powerful claims made on both sides and set the stage for the weeks of testimony to come.Our Sponsors:* Check out Warpath: https://bit.ly/4ixJCm3Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/foul-play-crime-series/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this gripping episode of Casey Anthony: Truth or Lies, we delve into the harrowing discovery of Caylee Anthony's remains and the subsequent fallout. From the persistence of Ron Kronk, the utility worker who first raised alarms, to the controversial courtroom interrogations he faced, we explore the pivotal moments that shifted the case. Hear about the shocking details of the autopsy report, the unsettling involvement of individuals seeking fame, and the heart-wrenching memorial service organized by Caylee's family. Join us as we unravel the tragic truths and lingering mysteries surrounding this infamous case.Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comJoin our Patreon at Patreon.com/FriendsofShaneOur Sponsors:* Check out Warpath: https://bit.ly/4ixJCm3Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/foul-play-crime-series/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this episode of Foul Play, Shane and Gemma pick up where they left off, completing the intricate timeline of events surrounding the disappearance and murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik. They shed light on pivotal moments, uncover new connections, and discuss the lingering questions that continue to haunt this decades-old case. Listeners will also hear thoughtful responses to more submitted questions, as Shane and Gemma explore fresh perspectives and theories that deepen our understanding of the tragedy. Join them as they continue their pursuit of justice and uncover the stories that demand to be told.Our Sponsors:* Check out Warpath: https://bit.ly/4ixJCm3Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/foul-play-crime-series/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy