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Who Owns Your Data in the AI Era? with Terence Kwok from Humanity Protocol

9.11.2025
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Data ownership is the battleground of our AI future and most people don't even know they're in the fight.

In this episode of AI Supercycle, we sit down with Terence Kwok, founder of Humanity Protocol, to discuss how user-owned verified credentials work, why privacy-preserving identity solutions matter for AI, and how Mastercard's integration proves enterprises are ready for this shift.


We discuss:

- Fresh Mastercard Integration Announcement

- User-Owned Verified Credentials

- Privacy-Preserving Identity Solutions

- Banking Data Without Oversharing

- ZK Proofs for Credential Verification

- AI Agents & Identity Access Control

- Web2 vs Web3 Identity Infrastructure


00:00 Intro

00:37 Near Ad

01:28 Humanity Protocol Overview

02:04 AI's Identity Crisis Explained

04:38 Privacy-Preserving Trust Layer Architecture

06:37 Taking Back Data Ownership

10:13 Relay Ad, Talus Ad, Hibachi Ad

10:55 Telus & Hibachi Ads

11:58 Mastercard Partnership Details Revealed

16:02 Human ID Vision: What It Enables

16:57 Future of Digital Identity Infrastructure

18:56 Big Tech's Data Monopoly Problem

20:14 OpenAI's $1T IPO Context

21:22 Enso Ad, Alvara Ad

22:56 Build & Alvar Ads

24:20 Security & ZK Proof Infrastructure

27:45 AI Agents & Data Sharing Economics

28:50 Humanity's Growth Metrics

30:28 Mastercard's 300M+ Addressable Market


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