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How AI Agents Are Replacing Hedge Fund Managers with Pei Chen of Theoriq

20.12.2025
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AI agents are moving from demos to managing real capital and replacing hedge fund managers in the process.

In this episode of AI Supercycle, we sit down with Pei Chen of Theoriq to explore how AI agents are transitioning from proof-of-concepts to autonomous economic agents managing real money.

Pei breaks down the trust problem around letting AI control our money and what happens when white-collar jobs get disrupted first.


We discuss:

- AI going from demos to managing real capital

- Why Gemini dominated 2025's model wars

- How AI agents are replacing hedge fund managers

- Theoriq's Alpha Vault: 25% returns through agent coordination

- The trust problem: when should we let AI control our money?

- White-collar jobs getting disrupted first

- AI building AI: the inception problem

- Future of junior engineering roles with AI


Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

01:30 Theoriq's TGE week recap

04:02 Intelligence layer architecture

09:19 One word to describe 2025 in AI

14:15 AI meeting the real economy

16:02 Bootstrapping DeFi liquidity with agents

19:48 White-collar jobs getting disrupted first

21:01 Hibachi Ad, Trezor Ad, Yeet Ad

23:09 Best AI model prediction for market analysis

27:13 Distribution vs integration in 2025

32:45 Which AI codes best?

34:33 InfiniFi Ad, Halliday Ad, Kalshi Ad

35:36 AI building AI: the inception problem

37:51 Future of junior engineering roles


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