Chamomile & Clove

Happy er, Monday, Clovers. In this episode, we're tackling Chapters 9 and 10 of The Black Bird Oracle, which combines the witch version of a courtroom procedural with ancient mythology. We're talking about allegory, long-term relationships, continuity, structure, and more -- including whether we're setting up for another trilogy -- and we're delighted to have you with us.   See you next time! xoxo Cait and Jen

In this episode we are discussing chapters 7 and 8 of The Black Bird Oracle by Deborah Harkness. An episode so nice that we had to do it twice. Yes, the pod calamities do persist, but we're still here.  This week we're chatting about magical power point, wands?, more Stephen, our Matthew arrival countdown, oracles, cards, and more.  I left in all the giggles this time, because it feels like we all might need them.  xoxo Jen

Oh, Clovers. Have you ever had a month (ish) where nothing went your way? Where everything went a bit to a hell and sideways and pear-shaped and you just couldn't get your feet under you? That was, in effect, the last five (ish) weeks at C&C. Between work emergencies, sickness, power outages, internet crises, and the like, it took us eons to record this episode properly and get it to you. But, finally, here it is. In this episode, we're unpacking generational trauma and Diana behaving like a wrecking ball with the side of the family that she heretofore did not know existed. There are specters and a frankly awesome barn and more revelations about all the things Stephen apparently didn't want Diana to know. We'll be back on our regular cadence from here on out -- thanks for your grace and patience, as always. xoxo Cait and Jen

You guys.   It's been two years, but with the publication of The Black Bird Oracle, we could not resist coming back. In this episode, we're catching up and finding our stride again as we cover Chapters 1-2 of Deborah Harkness's TBBO.    We missed this, and we missed you. Looking forward to this next step into the universe of All Souls!  

Dearest Clovers, Today is a bittersweet day. In this episode, we're announcing our hiatus from podcasting. Both of us are about to embark upon major life changes and, 120 episodes and five years later, we think it's appropriate to give C&C an intermission. We hope to answer your questions in the episode, but here's a summary: we're planning a possible return if and when there's new material, but, for now, this seems like the best choice. Our episodes will remain on our website and on iTunes and Spotify and wherever you listen. We plan to use whatever support we continue to receive through Patreon to pay those costs, but we completely understand if now is not the time for you to remain a patron. We've been so lucky to have you. It's nearly impossible to put into words what a joy this project has been and how proud we are of all we have accomplished. It's not perfect, but it has always been a delight. Thank you for your kindness, your support, your warmth, your good humor, your deep thinking, and your immense love of the All Souls Trilogy. Should you want to get in touch, you can find us at [email protected]. Honor and long life to all, xox Cait and Jen

Happy Sunday Clovers! Well, well, well, here we are with our penultimate discussion of A Discovery of Witches and the All Souls Universe. It's been quite the journey. We have so loved discussing this TV show with you all, and we know that it will continue to provide joy and delight for many years of re-watches to come. In this episode we're back on the trail of the great plot caper! That's right, team spreadsheet has reunited to bring you the ultimate plot discussion for A Discovery of Witches TV. Cait has tied in this plot discussion to the spreadsheets created for Episode 72 of the podcast (that's the one for the book trilogy plot discussion). In addition to diving into plots one more time, we are also discussing our ultimate favorites for the TV series: music, costumes, episodes, characters, scenes, and more.  If you have feedback, questions, or comments, make sure you send your thoughts to [email protected]. Follow us on Twitter as @chamomilenclove for updates or to tell us how you felt about this episode. For between episodes fun and news, please follow our Facebook page or consider joining our listeners’ group, the Chamomile & Clove Clovers. If you’d like to support the show, we’d love a review on iTunes or your pod-fetcher of choice or you can visit our Patreon.

We are so pleased to be here to begin our discussion of the entirety of the TV series A Discovery of Witches. The moment when we saw the series premiere of the series at All Souls Con in 2018 seems both past and present as we end this television journey. Surely some of you can relate to this feeling. For this episode we are discussing characters and their relationships throughout he series, series-wide themes, and the adaptation and production as a whole. Deepest apologies for the background noise, particularly in Jen's audio. There was a heat wave and it was sweltering in her office so the window had to be open in order to avoid syncope. It has been edited out as much as possible. Download the episode here. If you have feedback, questions, or comments, make sure you send your thoughts to [email protected]. Follow us on Twitter as @chamomilenclove for updates or to tell us how you felt about this episode. For between episodes fun and news, please follow our Facebook page or consider joining our listeners’ group, the Chamomile & Clove Clovers. If you’d like to support the show, we’d love a review on iTunes or your pod-fetcher of choice or you can visit our Patreon.

This week, we're bringing you our seventh (!?) plot discussion episode covering Season 3 of A Discovery of Witches TV. We're doing a deep dive on the plot highlights of S3 and whether (or not) they follow a structure we've ever seen before. If you have feedback, questions, or comments, make sure you send your thoughts to [email protected]. Follow us on Twitter as @chamomilenclove for updates or to tell us how you felt about this episode. For between episodes fun and news, please follow our Facebook page or consider joining our listeners’ group, the Chamomile & Clove Clovers. If you’d like to support the show, we’d love a review on iTunes or your pod-fetcher of choice or you can visit our Patreon. See you next time, xoxo Cait and Jen

Happy Sunday, Clovers! Sorry for the brief delay in getting you this episode -- sometimes the external world plays tricks with our recording and editing schedule. Nonetheless -- we're bringing you our first wrap episode for S3 of A Discovery of Witches TV. In today's episode, we're talking about character arcs -- what makes a good arc, what makes a regressive character arc, and which characters in ADOWTV S3 have the best and most complete character arcs. We're also discussing some themes (redemption! justice? revenge? eternity! connectedness!) and some of our favorite moments of the final season. If you have feedback, questions, or comments, make sure you send your thoughts to [email protected]. Follow us on Twitter as @chamomilenclove for updates or to tell us how you felt about this episode. For between episodes fun and news, please follow our Facebook page or consider joining our listeners’ group, the Chamomile & Clove Clovers. If you’d like to support the show, we’d love a review on iTunes or your pod-fetcher of choice or you can visit our Patreon. Until next time, xoxo Cait and Jen