Beyond Coding

Jordan Tigani helped create Google BigQuery, then got fired as Chief Product Officer on a Friday morning. He planned to hack on DuckDB to learn Rust. Investors offered to fund it before he'd decided to start a company. That company became MotherDuckIn this episode, we cover:The DuckDB Labs partnership: why MotherDuck gave the open-source creators a co-founder share instead of going open-coreFrom alpha to paid product: 11 founders, 3 to 4 months to alpha, two years to something people would pay forAI on top of the data warehouse: vibe-coded dashboards (Dives), pipelines (Flights), a context layer (Guides), and why business users catch mistakes analysts missAre dashboards dead? Jordan wrote "Big Data Is Dead"; his answer on dashboards is differentCareer advice: why you shouldn't want to work on the query optimizer, and the skill Jordan says matters moreFor engineers curious about database and infrastructure companies, open-source business models, and how AI is changing who gets to ask questions of data.Timestamps:00:00:00 - Intro00:00:32 - Fired on a Friday: how MotherDuck accidentally started00:04:50 - Giving DuckDB Labs a co-founder share of the company00:07:43 - Why most open-source SaaS products are just "managed"00:09:31 - Why VCs said yes: Snowflake, DuckDB, and BigQuery credibility00:10:50 - The 11-person founding team that skipped the wrong designs00:12:20 - Alpha in 4 months, beta in a year, paid in two00:15:20 - Vibe-coded BI: Dives, Flights, Guides, and an agent harness00:20:10 - The questions business users ask that analysts never do00:24:14 - Are dashboards dead in the age of agents?00:27:57 - Everybody wants to work on the optimizer (don't)00:31:23 - The engineer superpower most engineers look down on00:33:20 - Writing: the one skill Jordan would learn (and still hates)00:36:05 - Does contributing to DuckDB get you hired at MotherDuck?00:37:20 - Why a database company leaned into the duck#MotherDuck #DuckDB #SoftwareEngineering

Niantic Spatial CTO Brian McClendon on how the best engineers solve problems most give up on — from a 4D model of the world to shipping research in months. He built Google Earth and ran Google Maps for over a decade, and he's been there, done that. What he's building now is harder, and it's already live for customers. Along the way: who makes it on his team and who doesn't, and the one piece of advice he'd give every engineer using AI.In this video, we cover:- The 4D model of the world: visual positioning, change detection, and treating a pile of photos like a database- Gaussian splats and real-to-sim: capturing a room and loading it into Nvidia Isaac to train robots- Turning a research idea into a production service in six months- What Google Maps taught him about building for robots instead of humans- Designing problems AI can self-check, and why token maxing is a wasteFor engineers and engineering leaders who want to work on problems that don't have a known answer yet — and who want to know what a CTO who's built the definitive product in his field looks for in the people he hires.Recorded at the AI4 conference 2026. Timestamps:00:00:00 - Google Earth? Been There, Done That00:00:46 - Turning a Research Idea Into Production in 6 Months00:02:37 - How Any Photo Gets Located Within Half a Meter00:06:37 - The Long-Term Goal: A 4D Model of the World00:08:37 - Treating a Pile of Photos Like a Database00:11:58 - What Google Maps Taught Him About Training Robots00:15:22 - Gaussian Splats Explained in Plain Terms00:17:42 - The Unsolved Problem: Scale and Semantic Change00:20:34 - Why Google Earth Is Good Enough00:22:09 - Who Makes It on His Team and Who Doesn't00:23:38 - Designing Problems AI Can Self-Check00:26:03 - The Insights Hidden in the Physical World00:28:18 - Digital Twins, Cities, and Ready Player One00:31:35 - Visual Positioning When GPS Gets Spoofed00:33:24 - Token Maxing Is Bullshit: Advice for EngineersGuest: Brian McClendon, CTO at Niantic Spatial. The engineer behind Google Earth; ran Google Maps for over a decade.https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianmcclendon#NianticSpatial #GoogleEarth #SoftwareEngineering

How do new staff engineers build judgment without the years of experience that used to come with the role? Mallika Rao, engineering leader in big tech, explains why the data-structures-and-algorithms foundation everyone was trained on is no longer enough on its own, and where the complexity has actually shifted now that AI writes the implementation.In this video, we cover:Why "how does AI affect engineers" is the wrong question, and what to ask insteadRehearsing multiple futures: what judgment looks like in a staff engineerThe case method: building judgment from incident reports and system design history instead of waiting years for itCognitive coordination, code review load, and the surprise ask for more meetings at staff levelTiger teams vs scaled teams, trust as architecture, and building evals from a spreadsheetSplitting planning from execution so engineers stop falling behind with agentsTaste vs judgment, and how to build both outside of softwareIf you've just made staff, or you're about to, this conversation gives you a frame for what the level actually demands now and how to grow into it faster than the old apprenticeship allowed.Recorded at the AI4 conference 2026. Timestamps:00:00:00 - How AI Is Changing Senior Engineering Careers00:00:41 - Why "How Does AI Affect Engineers" Is the Wrong Question00:03:26 - What Judgment Actually Is: Rehearsing Multiple Futures00:05:24 - Why Data Structures and Algorithms Are No Longer Enough00:07:22 - Learning Judgment From Incident Reports Like the 2017 S3 Outage00:11:13 - The New Staff Engineer's Core Challenge: Cognitive Coordination00:14:48 - What Managers, Universities, and Shakespeare Each Owe You00:17:55 - Code Review Load, Meeting Notes, and the Surprise Ask for More Meetings00:23:59 - Trust as Architecture: Why Evals Started as a Spreadsheet00:27:09 - Tiger Teams vs Big Teams: Product Managers Reviewing Code00:32:39 - Why Some Engineers Can't Keep Up With Agents00:35:46 - Local AI Champions and Splitting Planning From Execution00:38:38 - Go Deep or Go Broad? Search in a World of Agents00:44:12 - Taste vs Judgment: Thinking in 50 LayersGuest: Mallika Rao, engineering leader in big tech.Rehearshing the Future framework If by Rudyard Kipling

How does Amazon build its agentic AI? Michael Giannangeli, Head of Product for Amazon Nova and Agentic AI, breaks down evals, RL gyms, and model routing. He also explains why the bottleneck in software has shifted away from engineering hours and what takes its place.In this video, we cover:The eval lifecycle: building from real failure modes, saturation, and why 100% means deleteRL gyms: training models on real environments like migrations, DevOps, and pen testingModel routing, cost-per-token trade-offs, and why routing isn't solvedThe agent stack of an Amazon product lead: Claude Code, Codex, and KiroAutonomous migrations, trust, and how much human-in-the-loop survivesFor engineers and product people building with AI agents who want to see how a frontier lab actually closes its feedback loops.Recorded at the AI4 conference 2026. Timestamps:00:00:00 - Intro00:00:36 - The Agents an Amazon Product Lead Uses Daily00:03:36 - Why Nobody's Heard of Amazon Nova00:04:55 - Model Costs and the Routing Problem00:08:10 - Why Building Good Evals Is So Hard00:10:05 - When Evals Saturate and Get Deleted00:12:17 - Turning Real Failure Modes Into Hundreds of Evals00:15:26 - Improving Models Without Training on Customer Data00:18:26 - If Everyone Uses Agents, You Need Agents00:20:22 - The Bottleneck Is No Longer Engineering Hours00:23:20 - Ship Fast to Validate the Right Thing00:26:44 - Staying at the Frontier Amid Constant Noise00:29:37 - Spend 10-20% of Your Time Experimenting00:32:54 - RL Gyms: How Models Learn From Failure00:37:09 - Will Migrations Become Fully Autonomous?Guest: Michael Giannangeli - Head of Product, Agentic AI & Amazon Nova at Amazon#AmazonNova #AgenticAI #AIEngineering

AI is changing what developers build, but code alone is no longer enough to prove what you can do. Wes Bos explains why engineers need to solve problems beyond syntax, how agent workflows are reshaping software development, and what still requires human thinking.In this conversation:The limits of generative UI and AI-generated designAgent loops, harnesses, and cheaper AI modelsThe rising cost of AI coding and the case for local hardwareWhy developer education is shifting from syntax to problem-solvingPersonal branding, conferences, newsletters, and AI-generated contentFor developers navigating AI-assisted coding, this episode explores the skills and signals that still help you stand out.This podcast was recorded at JSNation, the key web dev conference.OUTLINE00:00:00 - Code Is Not Enough for Developers00:00:32 - Why Generative UI Still Feels Unfinished00:04:35 - How Agent Loops Improve AI Coding00:07:06 - When Agent Workflows Become Standard Tools00:08:19 - Are Cheaper AI Models Good Enough?00:10:44 - Can AI Coding Costs Stay Sustainable?00:12:24 - What Engineers Need To Learn Now00:14:23 - Why Fundamentals Matter Beyond Syntax00:15:34 - How Non-Coders Are Building Production Tools00:16:21 - Why In-Person Conferences Still Matter00:18:11 - Personal Branding When Code Isn't Enough00:20:37 - Can Newsletters Beat The Attention Crisis?00:22:02 - Why AI-Generated Content Feels Insulting00:24:12 - Use AI To Scaffold, Not Think

Answering engineer questions on AI pressure, career growth, product thinking and impact. Including the production incident I'm glad happened, and the mindset I refuse to accept when things break.In this video, we cover:- Whether managers are really demanding more output because of AI- Balancing fundamentals with AI coding tools and agents early in your career- Specialist vs generalist and when to lean into each- Visibility, personal branding and who gets credit for your work- Product thinking, evaluating impact and what I got wrong about content being kingFor software engineers at any level who want honest answers on career strategy in the agent era, from someone doing both engineering and product.Timestamps:00:00:00 - How to Spot the Next Big Thing00:03:15 - The Saying I Hate Most00:04:27 - The Production Mistake I'm Glad I Made00:07:32 - Are Managers Demanding More Because of AI?00:13:39 - Learning Fundamentals vs AI Coding Tools00:19:00 - Will AI Ever Get Good at Distributed Systems?00:20:51 - Specialist vs Generalist: When to Lean In00:26:35 - How to Become More Visible in Your Org00:31:49 - I Was Wrong: Content Isn't King00:35:03 - Workflows, Priorities and Hiring an Editor00:37:08 - What Being a Force Multiplier Really Means00:41:26 - How to Evaluate What's Worth Building00:45:01 - Product Thinking Without Years of Experience00:48:13 - Energy Management, Curiosity and Defining Success00:54:21 - Hair Talk

How do you prove AI is shipping more features? Amos Haviv leads the Developer Workflow teams at Booking.com, supporting 4000 engineers operating 8000 repos.Everybody is burning through their AI budget right now and almost nobody can answer what it bought them. Amos can, because his team spent four years building an event system to debug their own SDLC before AI upped the urgency.In this video, we cover:Why verification is the bottleneck right now, and where it moves nextBuilding an event store that separates KTLO from real feature deliveryWhy static dashboards create the metric they measure, and the cobra story behind itAgent cost, model routing, and why Booking ignores token maxing entirelyRunning a developer survey with a 92% response rate across 3k+ engineersWho should own skills and MCPs: a central platform team or the domain experts?For platform engineers, engineering leaders, and anyone being asked to prove ROI on AI tooling this quarter.Timestamps:00:00:00 - Everyone is burning through their budget00:00:32 - Verification Is the Bottleneck Every Team Hit00:03:35 - 4,000 Engineers and 8,000 Repos at Booking.com00:06:48 - Why Copying Google and OpenAI Will Break You00:09:21 - Verification Is a Stack of Agents, Not One Review00:13:27 - Cost Is Becoming a Bottleneck of Its Own00:17:14 - Was the Internet a Bubble? What That Teaches Us00:25:32 - What Working With the Frontier Labs Looks Like00:28:26 - Debugging the SDLC With Four Years of Event Data00:30:24 - Do Engineers Using AI Actually Ship More Features?00:37:13 - Where to Start If You Measure Nothing Today00:45:01 - The Cobra Effect: When a Metric Becomes a Target00:52:23 - Everyone Is a Builder Now, and Everything Needs Support01:01:21 - Is AI Turning Every Engineer Into a Manager?01:03:46 - The Developer Survey With a 92% Response Rate01:10:09 - Who Owns Skills, MCPs, and the Enterprise Harness01:17:46 - Great Developer Experience Is High VelocityMentioned in the episode:High Output Management by Andy GroveThe Sovereign Individual (1997)The story of General MagicViews expressed are Amos's own and do not represent Booking.com.#AI #SoftwareEngineering #DeveloperExperience

"I need to stop using Opus. This doesn't work." That was Heitor Lessa's conclusion after a refactor cost him 200 million tokens, and it forced him to rebuild the entire agent workflow now available for 1400 engineers. Heitor spent 11 years at AWS, built Lambda Powertools to 230 billion API calls a week, and in this episode he walks through the full SDLC workflow on screen, from discovery to merge check.In this episode, we cover:The product loop: discovery, whiteboarding, and the /roadmap commandSpec-driven development with Open Spec and why vanilla setups failThree model tiers: SOTA for planning, mid-tier for implementation, cheap models for reviewsMerge checks with adversarial reviewers and attestations that catch agents fabricating test resultsThe /retro command: using the Socratic method to make your workflow more deterministicIf you're an engineer figuring out how to work with agents at team scale without losing trust in your codebase, this is the workflow to steal. This is also the first Beyond Coding episode with visuals on screen, so let me know what you think of the format.Timestamps:00:00:00 - The Math Doesn't Add Up00:00:43 - Amazon Hypergrowth: 11 Years, 8 Different Roles00:03:29 - Learning From the Trenches as a Technical Account Manager00:08:38 - Developer Identity and the Birth of Lambda Powertools00:10:20 - The Hard Parts of Working in Public00:13:12 - How Powertools Hit 230 Billion API Calls a Week00:16:42 - Career Advice: Learn Adjacent Roles, Not More Tech00:19:37 - When Leadership Decisions Don't Make Sense to You00:23:21 - The Product Loop Starts With Discovery00:25:22 - From Whiteboard to /roadmap00:27:37 - Why Humans Plan First and Agents Come Second00:30:33 - Commands vs Skills Across 32 Different Models00:33:38 - Adversarial Reviewers on Every Plan00:36:07 - The Socratic Method, Explained00:40:29 - Why He Only Takes Paper Notes00:44:43 - The Five-Line Paper Trick for High-Stakes Meetings00:48:18 - /new-work: Capturing Scope Creep Without Derailing00:54:03 - The Dev Loop Begins: Open Spec Explore00:56:34 - Three Model Tiers: SOTA, Mid, Cheap00:57:43 - The $5,000/Month Per Engineer Question00:58:57 - Guardrails vs Autonomy for 1,400 Engineers01:04:22 - Auto-Sizer: Does This Task Even Need a Spec?01:07:26 - Decision Fatigue and Why Frameworks Win01:09:10 - The Plan Phase: Specs, Design, Formal Verification01:13:07 - The Refactor That Cost 200 Million Tokens01:15:11 - When Agents Forge Evidence They Ran Your Tests01:17:27 - Local-First Architecture Explained01:23:04 - The Apply Phase: Fully Autonomous Loops01:24:30 - Coding Was Never the Bottleneck01:26:39 - Why This Workflow Is an Investment01:27:39 - Decision Logs and the /onboarding Command01:29:06 - Running Agents Locally With Enterprise Governance01:32:42 - Hooks: Making Quality Gates Deterministic01:36:02 - Merge Checks: 15 Adversarial Reviewers Per Change01:38:30 - /retro: Interviewing Yourself to Improve the Loop01:43:12 - Trust, Loss of Trust, and Recovery With Agents01:48:02 - Experience, Scars, and Critical Thinking01:49:32 - Why Right Now Is the Time to Experiment01:52:04 - Conviction Comes From Being in the Loop#softwareengineering #aiagents #aws

What senior engineers do differently has less to do with output than most career ladders suggest, and Lindsey Simon, VP of Engineering at Vercel, has watched the distinction sharpen as everyone in the valley becomes a "member of technical staff." From why new grads with hackathon years might out-prepare engineers with six years on the job, to what happens when PR throughput stops being your lever, this is a conversation about what earns seniority now.In this episode, we cover:Why engineering roles are consolidating into "member of technical staff"How to ask agents first and frame better questions to humansThe scope-of-impact ladder and what the best engineers systematizeLearning how to learn: closing gaps to 100% understandingWhy writing is the skill that scalesIf you're wondering whether your years of experience still compound, or you're early-career and tired of the "woe is the juniors" narrative, this one reframes both.This podcast was recorded at TechLead Conference, a conference for engineering leaders on adopting AI.TIMESTAMPS00:00:00 - Impact the Business00:00:31 - FOMO all the time: The 2006 Google Interview00:01:52 - Engineering Roles Are Consolidating00:02:52 - The "Member of Technical Staff" trend in SF00:03:33 - Interns Demo to the CTO00:04:33 - How New Grads Out-Prepare Senior Engineers00:06:10 - Ask Your Agent Before You Ask a Human00:08:01 - Digging Backwards Into Fundamental Understanding00:09:22 - "We're All Junior Engineers Again"00:10:22 - Management Is Not Leadership00:12:04 - Losing PR Throughput as Your #1 Lever00:13:11 - Fulfillment Beyond Shipping Features00:14:32 - Building for Fickle Engineers: Telemetry Beats Opinions00:16:11 - Watching Users Struggle With Your Product00:18:12 - Have Expectations for Seniors Actually Changed?00:19:57 - Claude Says a Month, It Takes Two Hours00:20:33 - What the Best Engineers Do Differently00:21:30 - How Vercel React Skill Came to Be00:22:23 - Why Conference Conversations Hit Different00:23:35 - Learning How to Learn: Close Gaps to 100%00:25:41 - The Case for Liberal Arts in Tech00:27:03 - Get Feedback Early, Don't Hide in the CaveGuest - Lindsey Simon, VP of Engineering at Vercel:https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindseysimon#softwareengineering #ai #careergrowth

The fastest engineers are falling behind, and Kitze was one of them. He built his reputation on raw coding speed, then realized his coding wasn't competing with anyone's coding anymore, it was competing with their setups. Wake-up call for developers: Kitze now runs 140 projects solo with agent loops, and in this episode he breaks down what separates the engineers pulling ahead from the ones getting left behind.In this episode, we cover:Vibe coding vs vibe engineering, and how to get better results from your agentsPolice files: Self-correcting loops that end every agent turn with zero errorsWhy teams of 10 are collapsing into teams of 2, and who survivesThe rude awakening coming for engineers who refuse to adaptThe number one advice to stay on track and fight FOMOFor individual contributors, tech leads, and principal engineers who don't plan on falling behindThis podcast was recorded at React Summit, the biggest React conference worldwide.TIMESTAMPS:00:00:00 - Intro00:00:40 - Vibe Coding vs Vibe Engineering: The Real Difference00:02:16 - Police Files: The Self-Correcting Loop on Every Turn00:05:23 - Capture Every Frustration as a Rule00:06:53 - Why Being the Fastest Coder Stopped Mattering00:09:45 - Problem Solver vs Problem Lover: Pick One00:10:43 - The Rude Awakening Engineers Don't Want00:12:05 - Why Teams of 10 Become Teams of 200:13:09 - Loop Engineering: The Edge Anyone Can Build00:16:08 - Why No Agent Orchestrator Works Yet00:17:07 - Starting a Fresh Codebase: What Kitze Transfers00:19:14 - No Sidebars: Inventing an Agentic OS00:21:07 - How Kitze Shipped 300 Changes Across 200 Repos00:23:40 - We Are Becoming the Bottleneck00:24:25 - Why Leadership Must Give Engineers Room to Experiment00:26:16 - The Token Divide: Not Everyone Can Compete00:27:41 - Learn Now or Lose Access Later00:29:33 - The Culling: Coasting Is Going Away00:30:45 - Why LLM Code Reviews Beat Tired Seniors00:33:21 - Solo Engineers With Agent Swarms vs Teams00:34:53 - Agents Climbing the Org Chart to CEO00:36:03 - What Distinguishes the Best Engineers: Unblocking00:36:50 - Ego Is the Real Bottleneck00:37:55 - Kitze's #1 Advice: Stick to One Model