2 Complicated 4 History

You’ve heard of the famous feud between the Hatfields and McCoys. But what is legend and what is the “true” story?  Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus welcome Jason Hatfield of the famous Hatfields and McCoys to explore how the family saga became deeply rooted in American lore. Unpacking the myths behind the legendary conflict, Hatfield explores how primary sources help uncover the true facts behind historical narratives.Please support this podcast by checking out our patreon:www.patreon.com/primarysourcemedia CHAPTERS:0:00 - Introductions00:49 - A Guest With a Personal Connection to the History05:41 - Growing Up With the Stories and Stereotypes14:16 - Teaching History to the Next Generation17:00 - When Communities Feel Protective of Their History20:10 - Discovering the Feud Through Family History23:31 - The Stories, Characters, and Legacy of the Feud29:58 - The Feud’s Notoriety and Its Larger-Than-Life Reputation41:16 - How Appalachia Responded to Outsiders41:50 - Who Profited From the Feud?45:16 - When a Family Feud Became Entertainment46:02 - How the Feud Entered the American Mythos49:15 - Violence and the National Mood of Reconstruction America52:53 - The Unexpected Genetic Connection1:00:54 - Historical Places Worth Visiting1:03:19 - Patreon, Book Giveaways, and Closing Remarks EPISODE LINKS:This Famous Vendetta – https://thisfamousvendetta.riverside.comManchurian Incident – https://history.state.gov/milestones/1921-1936/mukden-incidentKing Charles I – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Charles-I-king-of-Great-Britain-and-IrelandKing Charles II – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Charles-II-king-of-Great-Britain-and-IrelandOliver Cromwell – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Oliver-CromwellRandolph McCoy – https://www.wvencyclopedia.org/entries/1569Devil Anse Hatfield – https://www.wvencyclopedia.org/entries/256History Channel Hatfields & McCoys – https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1985443/?_ssoLoop=1Asa Harmon McCoy – https://www.hmdb.org/m.asp?m=50660 Jim Vance – https://www.wvencyclopedia.org/entries/819Floyd Hatfield Hog Trial – https://explorekyhistory.ky.gov/items/show/783Selkirk McCoy – https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/124326364/selkirk-mccoyTolbert McCoy – https://explorekyhistory.ky.gov/items/show/785Elias M. Hatfield – https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/20822332/elias_moss-hatfieldDinner Theatre in Pigeon Forge – https://hatfieldmccoydinnerfeud.comPike County Tourism Board – https://tourpikecounty.comBennett Place Surrender – https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/bennett-place-surrenderPODCAST INFO:Podcast website: 2c4hpod.comApple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2-complicated-4-history/id1664183536Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/3svQpZfxhVQnYJMESpp842?si=514780ada34d4aab Full episodes playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX2x56DEw1y7EYWxfufgfSR951RrdsXet&si=TuDcpAjaeQx-vjkH SOCIAL:- Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/2c4hPodcast- Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/2c4h_podcast

Genealogy includes creating your family tree. But how is it also essential to understanding politics, war, and the economy in Early America? Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus welcome historian Dr. Karin Wulf for a conversation about the creation of the British legal concept of family—and how the state imposed that framework on other cultures, compelling them to define family on British terms. Together, they explore how this legal structure shaped relationships of power and became foundational to understanding politics, war, and the economy in Early America.Please support this podcast by checking out our patreon:www.patreon.com/primarysourcemedia CHAPTERS:0:00 Intro: What if Washington had become king?0:54 Welcome and introducing Dr. Karin Wulf2:15 What is genealogy, and where did the idea for Lineage come from?4:22 Why historians owe a debt to genealogists8:24 What does "Early America" mean?10:00 The sources behind the book13:45 Gravestones and what they reveal about family19:23 What did "family" mean? European, Native, and African conceptions21:41 How colonial states imposed European family structures24:25 Patriarchy, matrilineal societies, and the family tree27:40 Inheritance, name clauses, and the Washington family33:21 Coverture, dower enslaved people, and the law of lineage36:05 Family as economic network: debt, credit, and cousins37:18 Child mortality, extended kin, and reusing a lost child's name40:49 Grief in early America (plus a book recommendation)43:30 Religion and genealogy48:09 Surnames and patriarchy today: how far have we come?50:42 Why family still matters (and who gets left out) EPISODE LINKS:Dr. Karin Wulf – https://karinwulf.comLineage: Genealogy and the Power of Connection in Early America – https://global.oup.com/academic/product/lineage-9780197553220?q=lineage%20wulf&lang=en&cc=us#Vernacular Genealogy Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/vernaculargenealogy/Patriarchy – https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/patriarchyThe Custis Family and “Parke” - https://www.mountvernon.org/library/digitalhistory/digital-encyclopedia/article/custis-familyThe House of Stuart – https://www.britannica.com/topic/House-of-StuartThe House of Hanover – https://www.britannica.com/topic/House-of-HanoverMartha Washington’s “dower” enslaved people – https://www.mountvernon.org/george-washington/slavery/martha-washington-as-a-slaveownerCoverture – https://karinwulf.com/tidbits/coverture-now-more-than-ever/Samuel Sewell – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Samuel-SewallSaltwater: Grief in Early America by Mary Iring – https://uncpress.org/9781469685380/saltwater/PODCAST INFO:Podcast website: 2c4hpod.comApple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2-complicated-4-history/id1664183536Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/3svQpZfxhVQnYJMESpp842?si=514780ada34d4aab SOCIAL:- Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/2c4hPodcast- Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/2c4h_podcast

Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus sit down with historian Dr. Todd Arrington, former director of the Eisenhower Presidential Library, to explore the life and legacy of General—and later President—Dwight D. Eisenhower. Far from the stereotype of the “boring” 1950s, Dr. Arrington reveals how Eisenhower’s leadership and the era’s pivotal events helped shape the America we know today. Please support this podcast by checking out our patreon:www.patreon.com/primarysourcemedia CHAPTERS:0:00 A Note Before We Start: Why This Episode Was Delayed2:07 Meet Todd Arrington, Director of the Eisenhower Library3:09 What Is a Presidential Library, Anyway?4:19 Inside the 22-Acre Eisenhower Campus7:07 The "Elevator Pitch" for Why Eisenhower Matters9:35 From West Point to the Army's Rising Star11:24 Planning D-Day & Becoming a Global Icon12:03 Truman Offers Ike the Presidency (As a Democrat!)14:20 Building NATO After World War II18:12 Where Eisenhower's Leadership Style Came From22:53 The General Marshall Wanted for D-Day — Himself26:16 From Five-Star General to Commander-in-Chief26:47 "Atoms for Peace" and Wanting to Be a Man of Peace30:31 Ending the Korean War33:23 The Interstate Highways, Little Rock & Civil Rights38:07 McCarthyism: "I'm Not Getting in the Gutter"41:34 Fighting for the 1952 Nomination Against "Mr. Republican"43:50 From Average President to America's 5th Greatest47:39 Generals Who Became President: Grant, Eisenhower & Beyond52:35 Mamie Eisenhower: The Woman Behind Ike57:00 "I Like My Bangs": Mamie's Best Quote58:03 A Final Interview With Mamie, Ten Years After Ike's Death59:19 "The Proudest Thing I Can Claim Is That I'm From Abilene"1:02:18 Where to Learn More: Abilene, Gettysburg & DC1:05:16 Find the Eisenhower Library Online EPISODE LINKS:Dr. Todd Arrington - https://www.eisenhowerlibrary.gov/press-releases/todd-arrington-appointed-director-dwight-d-eisenhower-presidential-library-and; https://wydaily.com/latest/local/2026/03/07/preservation-virginia-jamestown-rediscovery-announce-new-executive-director/Dwight D. Eisenhower Presidential Library – https://www.eisenhowerlibrary.govFarewell Address – https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/president-dwight-d-eisenhowers-farewell-addressWest Point Military Academy – https://www.westpoint.edu/about/history-of-west-pointOmar Bradley – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Omar-Nelson-BradleyDouglas McArthur – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Douglas-MacArthurJohn J. Pershing - https://www.britannica.com/biography/John-J-PershingFox Conner - https://armyhistory.org/major-general-fox-connerNATO – https://www.nato.intBernard Law Montgomery - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Bernard-Law-Montgomery-1st-Viscount-MontgomeryGeorge S. Patton – https://www.britannica.com/biography/George-Smith-PattonGeorge Marshall – https://www.britannica.com/biography/George-C-MarshallAtoms for Peace speech – https://www.eisenhowerlibrary.gov/research/online-documents/atoms-peaceJohn Eisenhower – https://eisenhowerfoundation.net/soldier/john-eisenhowerCivil Rights Act of 1957 – https://www.eisenhowerlibrary.gov/research/online-documents/civil-rights-act-1957Joseph McCarthy – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Joseph-McCarthyRobert Taft – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Robert-A-TaftMamie Eisenhower – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Mamie-EisenhowerUlysses S. Grant – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Ulysses-S-GrantEisenhower National Historic Site – https://www.nps.gov/eise/index.htmEisenhower Memorial, Washington, D.C. – https://www.nps.gov/ddem/index.htmInstagram – https://www.instagram.com/ikelibrary/Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/IkeLibraryTwitter - @IkeLibrary

Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and special guest host Bryan Austin welcome Dr. Greg Jackson to examine 250 years of American partisanship, political violence, and yellow journalism. While these forces still shape the modern world, history proves they are not insurmountable—if we overcame them before, we can do it again.Please support this podcast by checking out our patreon:www.patreon.com/primarysourcemedia CHAPTERS:0:00 Things Have Never Been This Bad?0:50 Meet Greg Jackson & the Legendary Library Ladder5:08 The Plane Ride That Launched a Podcast11:09 Why People Are Starving for Real History17:11 Touring America with "The Unlikely Union"19:20 "This Is the Worst It's Ever Been" — Remember the Civil War26:01 The Big Idea: Why History Rhymes30:46 The Founders at Their Worst31:47 Hamilton vs. Jefferson & America's First Media War36:13 Fake News in the 1790s39:39 The Baltimore Riots of 181242:25 Major William Barney: A Forgotten American Hero44:18 Free Speech & the Press, Then and Now47:08 What These Dark Chapters Teach Us Today50:45 A Call to Action: Be a Better Angel53:47 Inside the Book: JQA & the Most Corrupt Election Ever56:21 Visit a Small Museum & Philadelphia's Gazette War59:39 Where to Find Greg & His Book EPISODE LINKS:Greg Jackson – https://www.htdspodcast.com/aboutBeen There, Done That: How Our History Shows What We Can Overcome – https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Been-There-Done-That/Greg-Jackson/9781668062609#:~:text=Greg%20Jackson%20is%20the%20creator,podcasts%20on%20Apple%20and%20SpotifyHistory That Doesn’t Suck – https://www.htdspodcast.comGreg Jackson’s Tour – https://www.htdspodcast.com/live-showsThe Balloon Hoax – https://www.eapoe.org/works/mabbott/tom3t015.htmJohn Fenno – https://www.britannica.com/biography/John-FennoPhilippe Freneau – https://allthingsliberty.com/2025/10/the-good-old-republican-cause-philip-freneaus-principled-stand-against-the-shadow-of-monarchy/Alexander C. Hanson – https://bioguide.congress.gov/search/bio/H000176Major William Barney – https://www.mdhistory.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/mdhm_special_issue_2012.pdfCharles Sumner – https://www.senate.gov/senators/FeaturedBios/Featured_Bio_Sumner.htmPODCAST INFO:Podcast website: 2c4hpod.comApple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2-complicated-4-history/id1664183536Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/3svQpZfxhVQnYJMESpp842?si=514780ada34d4aab Full episodes playlist:   https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX2x56DEw1y7EYWxfufgfSR951RrdsXet&si=TuDcpAjaeQx-vjkH SOCIAL:- Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/2c4hPodcast- Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/2c4h_podcast

Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Dr. Anna O. Law to explore the tangled history of migration, citizenship, and federal power in early America. From colonial-era immigration policies to the Reconstruction Amendments, Dr. Law reveals how slavery, state competition, and the fight over who belongs shaped the nation’s immigration system—and why the federal government didn’t take control until surprisingly late.Please support this podcast by checking out our patreon: www.patreon.com/primarysourcemediaCHAPTERS:0:00 - Introductions1:27 - The 16-Year Journey to Writing the Book5:52 - From Migration to Citizenship: How the Book Evolved7:57 - The Evolution of Citizenship in Early America10:19 - State vs. Federal Citizenship: The Murky Legal Landscape12:16 - Colonial-Era Migration: A Crazy Quilt of State Laws17:19 - Migration vs. Immigration: An Important Distinction19:14 - The Articles of Confederation and the Constitution24:16 - State Police Powers and Migration Control25:28 - The Alien and Sedition Acts: Slavery’s Hidden Influence29:18 - Native Americans and Migration Recruitment33:50 - The Chinese Exclusion Act38:10 - The Federal Takeover of Immigration44:16 - Freedom of Mobility and the Right to Remain47:34 - Surprising Supreme Court Cases53:04 - Sovereign Citizens and Historical Misinterpretation54:18 - The 14th Amendment and Birthright Citizenship Today58:22 - Wrapping UpEPISODE LINKS:Dr. Anna O. Law: https://www.brooklyn.edu/faculty-staff/anna-o-law/Migration and the Origins of American Citizenship: https://global.oup.com/academic/product/migration-and-the-origins-of-american-citizenship-9780197660096CUNY Brooklyn College – Political Science: https://www.brooklyn.edu/political-science/Articles of Confederation: https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/articles-of-confederation Privileges and Immunities Clause: https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artIV-S2-C1-1/ALDE_00013777/Naturalization Clause: https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S8-C4-1-1/ALDE_00013160/Alien and Sedition Acts (1798): https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/alien-and-sedition-actsAlien Enemies Act: https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/alien-enemies-act-explainedChinese Exclusion Act (1882): https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/chinese-exclusion-actPuck Magazine – Anti-Chinese Political Cartoons: https://thomasnastcartoons.com/tag/statue-of-liberty/13th Amendment: https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/13th-amendment14th Amendment – Birthright Citizenship: https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/amendments/amendment-xivReconstruction Amendments: https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/intro.6-4/ALDE_00000388/Mayor of New York v. Miln (1837): https://www.oyez.org/cases/1789-1850/36us102The Passenger Cases (1849): https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/48/283/Dred Scott v. Sandford (1857): https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/dred-scott-v-sandfordGerald Neuman – “The Lost Century of American Immigration Law”: https://fedsoc.org/commentary/fedsoc-blog/the-lost-century-of-american-immigration-lawKevin Kenny – The Problem of Immigration in a Slaveholding Republic: https://global.oup.com/academic/product/the-problem-of-immigration-in-a-slaveholding-republic-9780197580080Gregory Ablavsky (Amicus Brief on Birthright Citizenship): https://law.stanford.edu/gregory-ablavsky/Bethany Berger (Amicus Brief on Birthright Citizenship): https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2610859Trump v. CASA (Birthright Citizenship Case): https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a884_8n59.pdfSovereign Citizens Movement: https://www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/sovereign-citizens-movement/

Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus welcome retired New York Supreme Court judge and author Diane Kiesel to explore the scandalous romance between film icon Charlie Chaplin and young aspiring actress Joan Barry. The explosive courtroom drama that followed—set against Chaplin’s famously chaotic personal life—reveals much about fame, justice, and power in America. Please support this podcast by checking out our patreon:www.patreon.com/primarysourcemedia CHAPTERS:0:00 - Introductions3:06 - Charlie Chaplin: The Man Behind the Tramp6:30 - The Juicy Hollywood Story: Chaplin’s Relationships7:36 - The Legal Journey: How a Judge Writes a Biography10:25 - Joan Barry: The Woman Behind the Scandal13:44 - Charlie Chaplin’s Romantic History20:54 - The Complicated Relationship: Victim or Victimizer?24:15 -  The FBI Investigation: Politics and Scandal27:23 - The Complicated Relationship: Victim or Victimizer? PT.234:11 - The Media Circus of the Chaplin Trial39:59 - The Role of the Judge and Legal Maneuvering45:51 - Joan’s Paternity Lawsuit and It’s Implications54:38 - The Aftermath: Chaplin's Career and Joan's Struggles1:06:05 - Final Thoughts EPISODE LINKS:Diane Kiesel – https://www.dianekiesel.comWhen Charlie Met Joan – https://press.umich.edu/Books/W/When-Charlie-Met-Joan2Mary Louise Gribble (“Joan Barry”) – https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/150198409/mary_louise-baker2026 Prose Award in Biography – https://publishers.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/2026-PROSE-Awards-Finalists-and-Category-Winners-1.pdfKeystone Comedy – https://www.britannica.com/topic/Keystone-KopsMack Sennett – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Mack-SennettThe Little Tramp – https://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2014/jan/27/charlie-chaplin-tramp-birth-heroThe Great Dictator – https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032553/Modern Times – https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0027977/?ref_=fn_t_1Paulette Goddard – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Paulette-GoddardJ. Paul Getty – https://www.britannica.com/money/J-Paul-GettyTim Durant – https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0243885/The Gold Rush – https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0015864/?ref_=fn_t_1Oona O'Neill – https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0152253/The Mann Act – https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/mann_actHedda Hopper – https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0394407/Fatty Arbuckle scandal – https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/10/11/fatty-arbuckle-and-the-birth-of-the-celebrity-scandalJerry Giesler – https://www.nytimes.com/1962/01/02/archives/jerry-giesler-75-lawyer-is-dead-he-won-fame-for-defending-hollywood.htmlJames Francis Thaddeus O'Connor – https://www.fjc.gov/history/judges/oconnor-james-francis-thaddeusCharles H. Carr – https://www.fjc.gov/node/1378866Samuel Marx – https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0555674/Joseph Scott – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Scott_(attorney)Monsieur Verdoux – https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0039631/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_4_nm_0_in_0_q_Monsieur%20Vodou%20PODCAST INFO:Podcast website: 2c4hpod.comApple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2-complicated-4-history/id1664183536Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/3svQpZfxhVQnYJMESpp842?si=514780ada34d4aab Full episodes playlist:   https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX2x56DEw1y7EYWxfufgfSR951RrdsXet&si=TuDcpAjaeQx-vjkH SOCIAL:- Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/2c4hPodcast- Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/2c4h_podcast

Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus sit down with author and fine artist Chris Semtner to explore the lesser-known side of Edgar Allan Poe. Best remembered as the dark, brooding voice behind “The Raven,” Poe was far more than a master of the macabre. This episode reveals a witty, charming, and surprisingly scientific thinker whose personality—and ideas—challenge everything you thought you knew about him. Please support this podcast by checking out our patreon:www.patreon.com/primarysourcemedia EPISODE LINKS:Chris Semtner – https://chrissemtner.comHaunting Poe: His Afterlife in Richmond and Beyond - https://shop.poemuseum.org/Haunting-Poe-p458518272Edgar Allan Poe Museum - https://poemuseum.orgEdgar and Tib - https://www.instagram.com/poemuseumcats/Hop-Frog - https://poestories.com/read/hop-frogThe Cask of Amontillado - https://poestories.com/read/amontilladoThe Tell-Tale Heart - https://poestories.com/read/telltaleheartThree Sundays in a Week - https://www.eapoe.org/works/tales/sundyb.htmGodey’s Lady’s Magazine - https://web.colby.edu/bookhistory2020/2018/03/05/origins-of-godeys-ladys-magazine/Henry Wadsworth Longfellow - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Henry-Wadsworth-LongfellowC. Auguste Dupin - https://www.britannica.com/topic/C-Auguste-DupinMesmerism - https://dictionary.apa.org/mesmerismAndrew Jackson Davis - https://jonestown.sdsu.edu/?page_id=81671Edgar Cayce - https://www.theosophical.org/publications/quest-magazine/edgar-cayce-ordinary-man-extraordinary-messengerThe Facts in the Case of M. Valdemar - https://poestories.com/read/factsMesmer and Swedenborg - https://archive.org/details/mesmerswedenborg00bushTamerlane - https://poemuseum.org/tamerlane/Al Aaraaf - https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Al_Aaraaf,_Tamerlane_and_Minor_Poems/Al_AaraafEureka: A Prose Poem - https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/32037Horace Walpole - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Horace-WalpoleAnn Radcliffe - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Ann-Radcliffe-English-authorLigeia - https://poestories.com/read/ligeiaBerenice - https://poestories.com/read/bereniceMorella - https://www.eapoe.org/works/tales/mrllah.htmEleonora - https://poestories.com/read/eleonoraThe Colloquy of Monos and Una - https://poemuseum.org/the-colloquy-of-monos-and-una/Eulalie - https://poemuseum.org/eulalie/Portrait of Virginia Poe - https://www.eapoe.org/papers/misc1921/deasf76a.htmJohn Neal - https://www.eapoe.org/pstudies/ps1970/p1974202.htmN.P. Willis - https://whitmanarchive.org/item/encyclopedia_entry110The Assignation - https://poemuseum.org/the-assignation/Sarah J. Hale - https://www.womenshistory.org/education-resources/biographies/sarah-haleThe Bells - https://www.eapoe.org/works/mabbott/tom1p101.htmThe Fox Sisters - https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-fox-sisters-and-the-rap-on-spiritualism-99663697/Horace Greeley - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Horace-GreeleyRufus Griswald - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Rufus-Wilmot-GriswoldSir Arthur Conan Doyle - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Arthur-Conan-DoyleSarah Helen Whitman - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Sarah-Helen-Power-WhitmanHarry Houdini - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Harry-HoudiniPODCAST INFO:Podcast website: 2c4hpod.comApple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2-complicated-4-history/id1664183536Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/3svQpZfxhVQnYJMESpp842?si=514780ada34d4aab Full episodes playlist:   https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX2x56DEw1y7EYWxfufgfSR951RrdsXet&si=TuDcpAjaeQx-vjkH SOCIAL:- Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/2c4hPodcast- Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/2c4h_podcast

Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus talk with author and historian Dr. Chris Yogerst about the uproar sparked by a few isolationist senators who accused Hollywood’s early anti-Nazi films of promoting war. Their ill-fated investigation became a national spectacle, splashed across newspapers for all to see. Please support this podcast by checking out our patreon:www.patreon.com/primarysourcemedia CHAPTERS:00:00:00 - Introductions00:02:07 - Introduction to Hollywood’s Historical Context00:04:00 - Why Hollywood?00:06:08 - The State of Hollywood in the Great Depression and The Lead Up to WWII00:09:06 - Understanding Propaganda in Hollywood Movies00:12:49 - What Caused the Senate to Investigate Hollywood?00:18:18 - The Rise of Isolationism vs. Interventionism00:20:53 - The Hays Code And The Hollywood Response to Current Events00:26:48 The Role of Movies in Public Perception00:28:26 - The Senate Investigates Hollywood00:32:34 - The Disconnect Between Politicians and Technology00:35:11 - Reactions to The Investigation00:37:03 - The Role of Evidence and The Underlying Prejudice00:41:09 - Was Everyone In On It?00:42:52 - Studipidity and Dog Whistles00:44:27 - Media Coverage and Public Perception00:48:19 - Shifting Political Rhetoric Post-Pearl Harbor00:50:48 - Why Did You Choose This Topic?00:55:21 - Where Should People Visit00:58:24 - The Three Movies People Should Watch EPISODE LINKS:Dr. Chris Yogerst – https://www.chrisyogerst.comSubstack – https://chrisyogerst.substack.comBlueSky – https://bsky.app/profile/chrisyogerst.comHollywood Hates Hitler!: Jew-Baiting, Anti-Nazism, and the Senate Investigation into Warmongering in Motion Pictures – https://www.ubcpress.ca/hollywood-hates-hitlerThe Man Who Shot Liberty Valance – https://www.unmpress.com/9780826368386/the-man-who-shot-liberty-valance/The Warner Brothers – https://www.kentuckypress.com/9780813198019/the-warner-brothers/The Great Dictator – https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032553/Black Legion – https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0027367/Why We Fight films – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7jF6pEM23dcE3HsS8QsS2L3lx4Do98JpCharles E. Coughlin – https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/charles-e-coughlinAmerica First Committee – https://www.britannica.com/topic/America-First-CommitteeCharles Lindberg – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Charles-LindberghGerald Nye – https://www.britannica.com/topic/Hollywood-blacklist#ref1191115Hitler in Los Angeles – https://www.pulitzer.org/finalists/steven-j-rossThe Hays Code – https://www.britannica.com/art/Hays-CodeJoseph Breen – https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1033952/Leo Frank Case – https://www.archives.gov/education/lessons/frank-petition.htmlConfessions of a Nazi Spy – https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0031173/House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC) – https://www.britannica.com/topic/House-Un-American-Activities-CommitteeBennett Champ Clark – https://dcchs.org/judges/clark-bennett-champ/Wendell Willkie – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Wendell-WillkieErnest McFarland – https://www.okhistory.org/publications/enc/entry?entry=MC022Harry Warner – https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0912481/bio/Charlie Chaplin – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Charlie-ChaplinDorothy Thompson – https://erpapers.columbian.gwu.edu/dorothy-thompson-1893-1961Thomas Doherty – https://scholarworks.brandeis.edu/esploro/profile/thomas_doherty/overviewThe Mortal Storm – https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032811/PODCAST INFO:Podcast website: 2c4hpod.comApple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2-complicated-4-history/id1664183536Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/3svQpZfxhVQnYJMESpp842?si=514780ada34d4aabSOCIAL:- Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/2c4h_podcast

Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus welcome historian Dr. Matthew Mason to explore the struggle for the moral high ground during the American Revolution. They unpack how the language of slavery and freedom shaped public debate—and how it became central to understanding the war itself. Please support this podcast by checking out our patreon:www.patreon.com/primarysourcemedia CHAPTERS:0:00 - Introductions1:13 - Making Sense of “Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death!”4:36 - “Men of Their Time”  is Factually Inaccurate6:40 - Explaining Politcal Slavery9:47 - How Slavery Played A Larger Role in The American Revolution Than We Used to Believe14:31 - The Complicated Mythology Around The Revolution16:34 - Any Acknowledgement of The Inherent Hypocrisy19:11 - Anti Slavery Movement in the 18th Century vs The Abolition Movement in the 19th Century 23:41 - Morale High Ground: Anti Slavery Sentiments In the Colonies and England26:19 - Why Did It Matter Who Had the Moral High Ground?29:11 - Defining the American Revolution vs the Revolutionary War31:56 - Lord Dunmore’s Proclamation33:39 - Parsing The Religiosity of the Founders40:09 - The Surprising Perspective of Benjamin Rush43:20 - Changing Your Own Perspective on History46:52 - The Global Perspective on The American Colonies51:15 - Where to Visit and How to Find Matthew EPISODE LINKS:Dr. Matthew Mason - https://history.byu.edu/directory/matthew-masonSeeking the High Ground: Slavery and Political Conflict in the British Atlantic World - https://www.upress.virginia.edu/title/10097/Slavery and Politics in the Early American Republic - https://uncpress.org/9780807859230/slavery-and-politics-in-the-early-american-republic/Patrick Henry “Give Me Liberty” Speech - https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/patrick.aspSamuel Johnson Quote - https://www.samueljohnson.com/tnt.htmlAbolitionism - https://www.britannica.com/topic/abolitionism-European-and-American-social-movement“For the Cause of Liberty is the Cause of GOD” - https://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=evans;cc=evans;rgn=main;view=text;idno=N11353.0001.001Lord Dunmore’s Proclamation, 1775 - https://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-resources/spotlight-primary-source/lord-dunmores-proclamation-1775Jean-Jacques Dessalines episode - https://youtu.be/wWhBPfjnf2Y?si=AEUfPw4sFW92RvGKSheldon Cooper “Fun With Flags” - https://youtu.be/_e8PGPrPlwA?si=G3SZhnVHnutApwmbBenjamin Rush - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Benjamin-RushPennsylvania Abolition Society - https://www.paabolition.orgApostles of Disunion: Southern Secession Commissioners and the Causes of the Civil War – https://www.upress.virginia.edu/title/1156/Somerset Decision of 1772 - https://www.gilderlehrman.org/sites/default/files/inline-pdfs/AppenA.pdfMuseum of the American Revolution – https://www.amrevmuseum.orgBlueSky - https://bsky.app/profile/matthewmason.bsky.socialPODCAST INFO:Podcast website: 2c4hpod.comApple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2-complicated-4-history/id1664183536Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/3svQpZfxhVQnYJMESpp842?si=514780ada34d4aab Full episodes playlist:   https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX2x56DEw1y7EYWxfufgfSR951RrdsXet&si=TuDcpAjaeQx-vjkH SOCIAL:- Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/2c4hPodcast- Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/2c4h_podcast

Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus welcome Dr. Jake Subryan Richards to examine the uncertain path to freedom for Africans rescued from the illegal slave trade in the nineteenth-century Atlantic World. Their stories reveal legal struggles, efforts to build new communities, and the ongoing fight for justice and autonomy amid persistent obstacles. Please support this podcast by checking out our patreon:www.patreon.com/primarysourcemedia CHAPTERS:0:00 - Introductions1:20 - What led to your research?2:56 - Transatlantic History Beyond the US4:25 - Contextualizing the Language Used in the Altlantic Slave Trade9:47 - The Bonds of Freedom12:42 - What is the 14 Year Rule and Who Started it?17:35 - What Was the Moral Rationale?21:26 - What Happened to the “Liberated” Africans? The Different Phases of the Courts29:48 - Memories Before Enslavement32:11 - Did The Privateers Collect Rewards After Liberating the Enslaved?34:34 - Building Community After Liberation36:39 - Differences Between Apprenticeship vs Slavery41:09 - Implicit or Explicit Policing42:36 - Slave Societies vs Societies with Slaves: The Ability to Gain Civil Rights48:12 - Identity, Companionship and Life After54:35 - A Global Community57:21 - Reorienting Atlantic History1:01:48 - Closing Thoughts And Where to Visit EPISODE LINKS:Dr. Jake Subryan Richards - https://www.lse.ac.uk/International-History/People/academicStaff/richards/richardsThe Bonds of Freedom: Liberated Africans & the End of the Slave Trade - https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300263206/the-bonds-of-freedom/Transatlantic Slave Trade – https://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-resources/teacher-resources/historical-context-facts-about-slave-trade-and-slavery1807 British Abolition Act- https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/law/1807-act-abolition-slave-trade-british-empire1808 U.S. Act Prohibiting the Importation of Slaves - https://www.archives.gov/education/lessons/slave-trade.htmlBlack Loyalists – https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/black-loyalistsSierra Leone – https://www.britannica.com/place/Sierra-LeoneLiberia - https://www.britannica.com/place/LiberiaEusébio de Queirós - https://www.encyclopedia.com/humanities/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/queiros-coutinho-matoso-da-camera-eusebio-de-1812-1868U.S. Reconstruction - https://www.britannica.com/event/Reconstruction-United-States-historyPan-Africanism - https://www.britannica.com/topic/Pan-AfricanismJames Africanus Horton - https://blackpast.org/global-african-history/horton-james-africanus-beale-1835-1883/W.E.B. Du Bois - https://www.britannica.com/biography/W-E-B-Du-BoisA Story of Bones - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt19796824/PODCAST INFO:Podcast website: 2c4hpod.comApple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2-complicated-4-history/id1664183536Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/3svQpZfxhVQnYJMESpp842?si=514780ada34d4aab Full episodes playlist:   https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX2x56DEw1y7EYWxfufgfSR951RrdsXet&si=TuDcpAjaeQx-vjkH SOCIAL:- Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/2c4hPodcast- Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/2c4h_podcast