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Bitcoin payments are restricted in Indonesia, but that hasn't stopped a grassroots movement from building a Bitcoin economy. Dimas, co-founder of Bitcoin Indonesia, joins me to explain how education, community, and creative solutions are bringing Bitcoin adoption to one of the world's largest countries.We recorded this conversation on a train traveling through Indonesia while documenting the people building Bitcoin communities across the country with My First Bitcoin.What started as a few meetups has grown into a nationwide movement of educators, entrepreneurs, and everyday people working to make Bitcoin accessible. But building a circular economy in a country where Bitcoin cannot legally be used as a payment method presents some unique challenges.Dimas explains how Bitcoin Indonesia is using Fedi and a closed-loop system to enable peer-to-peer exchange, how Islamic teachings influence the way Indonesians think about money, and why understanding the history of the rupiah is so important.We also explore Indonesia's colonial history, the role of debt in shaping the country's independence, inflation, and how Bitcoin education is giving a new generation hope for a better future.At the heart of this conversation is a simple idea: Bitcoin adoption doesn't happen by itself. It takes people willing to build.CONNECT WITH USDimas on X: https://x.com/Silatoshi_idBitcoin Indonesia on X: https://x.com/bitcoinindo21Bitcoin Indonesia website: https://bitcoinindonesia.xyz/Bitcoin Indonesia Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bitcoinindonesia.xyz/Kyle on X: https://x.com/thekylehuberKyle on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kylehuber21/Kyle's Website: https://kylehuber.comKyle on Nostr: [email protected] WE ARE SATOSHISatoshi gifted us Bitcoin so we could bring our gifts to the world.We Are Satoshi is a podcast about the people building on Bitcoin. Entrepreneurs, educators, creators, and everyday people using their unique skills to build a more free and prosperous world.If this conversation gave you something to think about, share it with someone who is building on Bitcoin.SUPPORT YOURSELF, SUPPORT THE PODSubscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WeAreSatoshiPodListen on Fountain: https://fountain.fm/show/oNj9eSXpNudLR2XoMtKLSend feedback or questions: [email protected]#Bitcoin #BitcoinIndonesia #BitcoinAdoption #WeAreSatoshi #MyFirstBitcoin

What happens when artists discover Bitcoin? Dion Wilson, founder of Bitcoin for the Arts and former professional dancer, explains how Bitcoin is empowering artists, musicians, and independent creators to reclaim their financial freedom, get paid directly for their work, and build careers on their own terms.From disrupting traditional creative industries to funding artists with Bitcoin grants, Dion shares why art and culture could be the missing piece of Bitcoin adoption—and how sound money can unlock a new era of creativity.After a 16-year professional dance career that included performing with Disney and touring nationally, Dion found himself searching for his next purpose. That journey eventually led him down the Bitcoin rabbit hole and inspired him to create Bitcoin for the Arts, a nonprofit dedicated to supporting artists through Bitcoin funding, education, and freedom technology.What if the next wave of Bitcoin adoption doesn't come from technology or finance, but from art, music, and culture? That's the future Dion is helping build.Subscribe for more conversations about Bitcoin, freedom technology, creativity, and sovereignty.Connect With Us!Bitcoin for the Arts: https://bitcoinforthearts.orgBitcoin for the Arts on X: https://x.com/BitcoinftaKyle on X: https://x.com/thekylehuberKyle on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kylehuber21/ Kyle's Website: https://kylehuber.com Kyle on Nostr: [email protected] Support Yourself, Support the PODBasic Desktop Miner (US only): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GWGV9R36?maas=maas_adg_api_584437388399636114_static_8_616&ref_=aa_maas&tag=maas&aa_campaignid=weareSatoshi&aa_adgroupid=podcast&aa_creativeid=video-2026-0915% off at Born to Be Free Online Store: https://oshi.link/C2mHb0 Buy the Daylight Co DC-1: https://buy.daylightcomputer.com/WEARESATOSHI ($25 off with code: WeAreSatoshi) 15% OFF your order of earthy energy : https://liveearthy.co?bg_ref=c8KTLsLeKv (code KHuber) 10% off Chroma Blue Light Glasses and Other Products: https://getchroma.co/?ref=ixabomjq (code: KYLE10) SLNT Faraday Bags: https://slnt.com/?avad=428701_b45ea6cd1 Stream sats on Fountain: ⁠ https://fountain.fm/show/oNj9eSXpNudLR2XoMtKL Watch + subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WeAreSatoshiPod Send me an email with feedback/questions: [email protected]

What does Bitcoin have to do with physics, thermodynamics, entropy, information theory, and the nature of time itself? In this episode, Jack and Nick explore the idea that Bitcoin is more than a monetary network—it is a physical and informational system worth studying through the lens of fundamental physics.The conversation starts with proof of work and the often-repeated claim that Bitcoin is “backed by energy.” But what does that actually mean physically? Jack and Nick argue that Bitcoin creates a relationship between energy, computation, information, memory, and time that may give us a new way to think about concepts usually kept in separate academic disciplines. We get into thermodynamics, Shannon entropy, the double-spend problem, the measurement problem, conservation of information, discrete vs. continuous time, and the limits of our existing models of physics. Their thesis is not simply that Bitcoin uses energy, but that proof of work may connect physical work and information in a way that did not exist before Bitcoin. That leads to a much bigger question: What if we have been looking at Bitcoin through too narrow a lens?Jack and Nick challenge the assumption that Bitcoin should primarily be understood as money, economics, or computer science. Instead, they ask whether examining Bitcoin as a physical system could reveal something deeper about measurement, truth, entropy, and how information persists through time. We also explore the relationship between Bitcoin’s double-spend solution and the measurement problem in physics, why they believe these ideas are connected, and what that could mean for questions surrounding quantum computing and Bitcoin. These are ambitious and speculative ideas—but that is exactly the point of the conversation: to examine Bitcoin as an open experiment rather than assume we already understand what it is.This conversation is an invitation to examine Bitcoin from first principles—not as an investment, but as a 'thermological' system.#Physics #Bitcoin #Thermodynamics #Entropy #InformationTheory #ProofOfWork #QuantumPhysics #Complexity #Science #BitcoinPhysicsConnect With UsBitcoin Lens Website: https://bitcoinlens.net/Jack on Nostr: https://primal.net/jackkNick on X: https://x.com/PlebNickKyle on X: https://x.com/thekylehuberKyle on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kylehuber21/ Kyle's Website: https://kylehuber.com Kyle on Nostr: [email protected] Support Yourself, Support the PODBasic Desktop Miner (US only): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GWGV9R36?maas=maas_adg_api_584437388399636114_static_8_616&ref_=aa_maas&tag=maas&aa_campaignid=weareSatoshi&aa_adgroupid=podcast&aa_creativeid=video-2026-0915% off at Born to Be Free Online Store: https://oshi.link/C2mHb0 15% OFF your order of earthy energy : https://liveearthy.co?bg_ref=c8KTLsLeKv (code KHuber) 10% off Chroma Blue Light Glasses and Other Products: https://getchroma.co/?ref=ixabomjq (code: KYLE10) SLNT Faraday Bags: https://slnt.com/?avad=428701_b45ea6cd1 Stream sats on Fountain: ⁠ https://fountain.fm/show/oNj9eSXpNudLR2XoMtKL Watch + subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WeAreSatoshiPod Send me an email with feedback/questions: [email protected]:

LeahThompson (Girl Gone Crypto) joins me to discuss AI, surveillance, self-custody, open-source software, and why she believes a war on freedom tech may be coming. We explore how Bitcoin fits into a world where AI can analyze enormous amounts of personal data, scams are becoming more sophisticated, and privacy is increasingly difficult to maintain.  Lea has been creating Bitcoin and crypto content for nearly a decade and is now Head of Marketing at Cake Wallet. In this conversation at Bitcoin Asia in Hong Kong, we discuss what brought her into Bitcoin, why the original freedom-money ethos still matters, and what Bitcoiners should be thinking about as institutional adoption accelerates.  We also get into Silent Payments and Bitcoin privacy, Cake Wallet’s new private messaging app, Radar, the growing relationship between Bitcoin and encrypted communication, and why making privacy tools simple enough for normal people may be just as important as the underlying technology.  If you've ever asked: “Am I too late?” Leah explains why chasing cheap coins in the “crypto casino” can be a trap, why conviction matters more than owning an entire Bitcoin, and why understanding why you own Bitcoin is essential. Finally, Lea shares her advice for anyone who wants to stop being just a Bitcoin holder and actually build on Bitcoin—whether your skills are in development, marketing, media, design, or something entirely different.  Topics include: Bitcoin privacy, AI and surveillance, freedom tech, open-source software, Cake Wallet, Silent Payments, private messaging, self-custody, hardware wallets, Bitcoin scams, institutional adoption, Monero, and building a career in Bitcoin. Subscribe for conversations with the people building Bitcoin, freedom technology, and a more sovereign future.  Connect With Us Lea (@girlgone_crypto) on X: https://x.com/girlgone_crypto Lea on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/girl_gone_crypto/ Cake Wallet: https://cakewallet.com/ Cake Wallet on X: https://x.com/cakewallet Kyle on X: https://x.com/thekylehuber Kyle on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kylehuber21/ Kyle's Website: https://kylehuber.com Kyle on Nostr: [email protected]  Support Yourself, Support the POD Basic Desktop Miner (US only): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GWGV9R36?maas=maas_adg_api_584437388399636114_static_8_616&ref_=aa_maas&tag=maas&aa_campaignid=weareSatoshi&aa_adgroupid=podcast&aa_creativeid=video-2026-09 15% Back in Sats at Born to Be Free Online Store: https://oshi.link/C2mHb0  Buy the Daylight Co DC-1: https://buy.daylightcomputer.com/WEARESATOSHI($25 off with code: WeAreSatoshi) 15% OFF your order of earthy energy : https://liveearthy.co?bg_ref=c8KTLsLeKv(code KHuber) 10% off Chroma Blue Light Glasses and Other Products: https://getchroma.co/?ref=ixabomjq(code: KYLE10) SLNT Faraday Bags: https://slnt.com/?avad=428701_b45ea6cd1 Stream sats on Fountain: ⁠ https://fountain.fm/show/oNj9eSXpNudLR2XoMtKL Watch + subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WeAreSatoshiPod If you are interested in buying Bitcoin, River is the best place to do so: ⁠ https://river.com/signup?r=4JAPK6Q2⁠  Send me an email with feedback/questions: [email protected]

Bitcoin merchant adoption is growing in Hong Kong—but does any of it matter if Bitcoiners refuse to actually spend their sats? Zach Wizenberg is helping turn Bitcoin from something people simply hold into money they can actually use. In this episode of We Are Satoshi, Zach and I sit down in Hong Kong to talk about what it takes to build a real Bitcoin economy. Zach and Gaelle have helped bring 28 merchantsonboard, while building a Bitcoin point-of-sale system designed to make accepting payments simple for everyday businesses. Zach makes the case that merchant adoption is ultimately a supply-and-demand problem: getting businesses to accept Bitcoin is only half the equation. If Bitcoiners never spend it, merchants have little reason to keep accepting it—and Bitcoin risks functioning primarily as a speculative asset instead of usable currency.Bitcoin isn't just something to save. It's money—and money is meant to be used.If you enjoy conversations with the people actually building the Bitcoin economy, subscribe to We Are Satoshi and share this episode with someone who believes Bitcoin can become more than a store of value.  Connect With Us Whale Lounge Website: https://www.thewhalelounge.com/ Whale Lounge on X: https://x.com/WhaleLoungeHK Kyle on X: https://x.com/thekylehuber Kyle on Instagram: @kylehuber21 Kyle's Website: https://kylehuber.com Kyle on Nostr: [email protected] Support the POD! Basic Desktop Miner (US only): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GWGV9R36?maas=maas_adg_api_584437388399636114_static_8_616&ref_=aa_maas&tag=maas&aa_campaignid=weareSatoshi&aa_adgroupid=podcast&aa_creativeid=video-2026-09 15% off at Born to Be Free Online Store: https://oshi.link/C2mHb0  Buy the Daylight Co DC-1: https://buy.daylightcomputer.com/WEARESATOSHI($25 off with code: WeAreSatoshi) 15% OFF your order of earthy energy : https://liveearthy.co?bg_ref=c8KTLsLeKv(code KHuber) 10% off Chroma Blue Light Glasses and Other Products: https://getchroma.co/?ref=ixabomjq(code: KYLE10) SLNT Faraday Bags: https://slnt.com/?avad=428701_b45ea6cd1 Stream sats on Fountain: ⁠ https://fountain.fm/show/oNj9eSXpNudLR2XoMtKL Watch + subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WeAreSatoshiPod If you are interested in buying Bitcoin, River is the best place to do so: ⁠ https://river.com/signup?r=4JAPK6Q2⁠  Send me an email with feedback/questions: [email protected]

What happens when you connect Bitcoin, health, wellness, and personal sovereignty?In this episode of We Are Satoshi, I sit down with Petra Anderson, founder of Zaprana, to explore why the systems that shape our money, health, food, and lives may have more in common than we realize.Petra comes from a background studying conflict and the systems behind civil wars and revolutions. Her journey eventually led her toward Bitcoin and the idea that some of the world's biggest problems can't be solved by simply trying to fix the existing system from within.We discuss decentralized health, Bitcoin as money, privacy, food sovereignty, time preference, and what it means to build businesses outside of traditional incentives.Zaprana is a marketplace where people can discover and pay for wellness services using Bitcoin — connecting Bitcoiners directly with people providing value without unnecessary intermediaries.If you believe in Bitcoin, what are you going to build?Connect With UsZaprana website: https://x.com/ZapranaLifeZaprana on X: https://x.com/ZapranaLifeKyle on X: https://x.com/thekylehuberKyle on Instagram: @kylehuber21Kyle's Website: https://kylehuber.comKyle on Nostr: [email protected] Support Yourself, Support the POD!15% off at Born to Be Free Online Store: https://oshi.link/C2mHb0  Buy the Daylight Co DC-1: https://buy.daylightcomputer.com/WEARESATOSHI ($25 off with code: WeAreSatoshi) 15% OFF your order of earthy energy : https://liveearthy.co?bg_ref=c8KTLsLeKv (code KHuber) 10% off Chroma Blue Light Glasses and Other Products: https://getchroma.co/?ref=ixabomjq (code: KYLE10) SLNT Faraday Bags: https://slnt.com/?avad=428701_b45ea6cd1 Stream sats on Fountain: ⁠ https://fountain.fm/show/oNj9eSXpNudLR2XoMtKL Watch + subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WeAreSatoshiPod If you are interested in buying Bitcoin, River is the best place to do so: ⁠ https://river.com/signup?r=4JAPK6Q2⁠  Send me an email with feedback/questions: [email protected]:00:00 — Introduction: Petra Anderson & the journey to Bitcoin03:29 — Why broken systems are so difficult to change05:13 — The migration crisis and the deeper economic problem06:30 — Bitcoin beyond “number go up”07:07 — How Bitcoin changes you08:42 — Bitcoin, sovereignty & health09:23 — Why are we so unhealthy?09:59 — The problem with centralized health and wellness11:19 — What decentralization means beyond money11:53 — Decentralizing medicine and broken incentives12:39 — The story behind Za Prana13:59 — What can you actually find on Za Prana?14:59 — Building a Bitcoin circular economy15:25 — Why should Bitcoiners spend their Bitcoin?16:17 — How do you actually use Bitcoin in the real world?16:36 — Removing the middlemen with Bitcoin17:16 — Bitcoin, permissionless commerce & sovereignty18:30 — Health, privacy & personal data21:35 — Our relationship with time22:40 — Bitcoin as a clock24:43 — Bitcoin, time & immutability25:16 — Is time actually discrete?26:03 — How the mechanical clock changed our relationship with time26:51 — Sovereignty vs. slavery27:11 — Food sovereignty & knowing your farmer27:45 — What is the health equivalent of consumer debt?29:02 — Building Za Prana as a founder31:47 — How Bitcoin changes the way we build businesses32:38 — Community, word of mouth & growing organically33:29 — Who can offer services on Za Prana?34:38 — Mental, physical & spiritual health35:46 — Advice for people who want to build on Bitcoin38:06 — The most important question: What do you want?39:06 — Overcoming the mental barriers to building40:13 — Building with people who share your values41:22 — Where to find Petra & Za Prana42:11 — Closing thoughts

Who decides what bitcoin is? What happens when a minority of the network decides to fork bitcoin and move to a new chain? Bitcoin has been through many hard forks, most notably during the Blocksize Wars in 2017. In this episode of the We Are Satoshi podcast I spoke with Jeremy, Host of the Bitcoin Cash podcast. Jeremy makes the case that BTC abandoned the very thing Bitcoin was meant to be. Although Jeremy and I disagree on what bitcoin is and what adoption actually looks like, we found common ground on a number of topics and had a fruitful discussion. Topics covered: • Why Jeremy argues BTC became a “Potemkin village” version of Bitcoin • How the one-megabyte block limit changed the future of the network • Why he thinks Lightning and other L2s don’t solve the core tradeoff • How social consensus, not just miners or nodes, determines protocol direction • Why BCH's merchant adoption and circular economies matter more than hype If you want a deep look at the BTC vs BCH split, and the ideas still shaping Bitcoin politics today, this one goes straight to the heart of it. Connect with us:Bitcoin Cash Podcast Website: https://bitcoincashpodcast.com/Jeremy on X: https://x.com/TheBCHPodcastKyle on X: https://x.com/thekylehuberKyle on Instagram: @kylehuber21 Kyle's Website: https://kylehuber.com Kyle on Nostr: [email protected] Support the POD!15% off at Born to Be Free Online Store: https://oshi.link/C2mHb0 Buy the Daylight Co DC-1: https://buy.daylightcomputer.com/WEARESATOSHI ($25 off with code: WeAreSatoshi) 15% OFF your order of earthy energy : https://liveearthy.co?bg_ref=c8KTLsLeKv (code KHuber) 10% off Chroma Blue Light Glasses and Other Products: https://getchroma.co/?ref=ixabomjq (code: KYLE10) SLNT Faraday Bags: https://slnt.com/?avad=428701_b45ea6cd1 Stream sats on Fountain: ⁠ https://fountain.fm/show/oNj9eSXpNudLR2XoMtKL Watch + subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WeAreSatoshiPod If you are interested in buying Bitcoin, River is the best place to do so: ⁠ https://river.com/signup?r=4JAPK6Q2⁠ Send me an email with feedback/questions: [email protected]

The internet was built to be open—but today, a handful of companies control much of our digital lives. What happens when your account, audience, identity, or ability to communicate can be taken away overnight?In this episode of We Are Satoshi, I sit down with Derek Ross and MK Fain of Soapbox to explore the future of a free and open internet. We talk about the internet becoming increasingly permissioned through KYC, digital ID, censorship and centralized platforms—and how Bitcoin, NOSTR, open-source software and other freedom technologies can help build an alternative.Derek shares the story of building an audience of over 1 million people on Google+—only to have Google shut the platform down, and why that experience changed how he thinks about digital ownership.We also get into Bitcoin crowdfunding in Venezuela, building alternatives to Discord and GitHub, decentralized identity, censorship, moderation, AI, the challenges of true decentralization, and why cryptographic money and cryptographic communication belong together.If you're a Bitcoin holder, developer, creator, or simply someone who cares about owning your digital life, this conversation is worth watching.Connect with us:Soapbox website: https://soapbox.pub/blog/nostr101MK on Nostr: [email protected] on X: https://x.com/mkay_fainDerek on Nostr: [email protected] on X: https://x.com/derekmrossKyle on Nostr: [email protected] on X: https://x.com/thekylehuberSupport the POD! 15% off at Born to Be Free Online Store: https://oshi.link/C2mHb0  Buy the Daylight Co DC-1: https://buy.daylightcomputer.com/WEARESATOSHI($25 off with code: WeAreSatoshi) 15% OFF your order of earthy energy : https://liveearthy.co?bg_ref=c8KTLsLeKv(code KHuber) 10% off Chroma Blue Light Glasses and Other Products: https://getchroma.co/?ref=ixabomjq(code: KYLE10) SLNT Faraday Bags: https://slnt.com/?avad=428701_b45ea6cd1 Stream sats on Fountain: ⁠ https://fountain.fm/show/oNj9eSXpNudLR2XoMtKL Watch + subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WeAreSatoshiPod If you are interested in buying Bitcoin, River is the best place to do so: ⁠ https://river.com/signup?r=4JAPK6Q2⁠

Bitcoin was supposed to set us free—but has it been captured by the very system it was designed to escape?Polymath artist Monika Bravo joins me to explore Bitcoin’s identity crisis, sovereignty, AI, the architecture of value, and what it means to recover the spirit of Satoshi. Monika and I go deep on her upcoming book, The Art of Synthesis and the Architecture of Value, and the ideas shaping her work right now: subjective value, personal sovereignty, boundaries, identity, creativity, artificial intelligence, Bitcoin culture, trauma, ancient knowledge, and the relationship between consciousness and technology. We also explore whether Bitcoin’s increasing financialization is changing its culture, why Monika believes we shouldn’t turn Bitcoin—or its most prominent figures—into an ideology, and why value ultimately goes far deeper than price.  Connect with us: Monika's Website: https://studioofendlessideas.com/ Monika on X: @bravomonika Monika on Instagram: @monikaco Monika on Nostr: Npub1dxrhmnzk34sk7wfewvejsqz6hejkesdugwwp4zr7k006uulu9zmq6t87rc Kyle on X: https://x.com/thekylehuber Kyle on Instagram: @kylehuber21 Kyle's Website: https://kylehuber.com Kyle on Nostr: [email protected]  Support the POD! 15% off at Born to Be Free Online Store: https://oshi.link/C2mHb0  Buy the Daylight Co DC-1: https://buy.daylightcomputer.com/WEARESATOSHI($25 off with code: WeAreSatoshi) 15% OFF your order of earthy energy : https://liveearthy.co?bg_ref=c8KTLsLeKv(code KHuber) 10% off Chroma Blue Light Glasses and Other Products: https://getchroma.co/?ref=ixabomjq(code: KYLE10) SLNT Faraday Bags: https://slnt.com/?avad=428701_b45ea6cd1 Stream sats on Fountain: ⁠ https://fountain.fm/show/oNj9eSXpNudLR2XoMtKL Watch + subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WeAreSatoshiPod If you are interested in buying Bitcoin, River is the best place to do so: ⁠ https://river.com/signup?r=4JAPK6Q2⁠  Send me an email with feedback/questions: [email protected]

Subscribe to my channel for more high signal bitcoin content! Bitcoin hasn’t changed—but market sentiment, Bitcoin treasury companies, institutional adoption, and the custody landscape are shifting fast. In this episode, Jackson Mikalic explains the Bitcoin bear market, why investors are panicking, and what may drive the next phase of adoption. We also explore Bitcoin self-custody, multi-institution custody, inheritance planning, AI agents using Bitcoin, Wall Street’s growing involvement, and whether the Trump administration delivered on its promises to the Bitcoin industry.Jackson Mikalic is the host of The Last Trade podcast and works with Onramp Bitcoin, where he helps individuals and families think through long-term Bitcoin ownership, security, custody, and generational wealth. This conversation is for educational purposes only and should not be considered financial advice.  Timestamps 00:00 Inflation, Bitcoin and the political rug pull01:23 Bitcoin hasn’t changed—so what has?02:11 Understanding Bitcoin’s latest market cycle03:01 Leverage, liquidations and collapsing crypto assets05:30 Is now the time to buy more Bitcoin?06:25 Financial institutions are building during the bear market08:09 Why Bitcoin treasury companies may be permanently impaired10:32 Own Bitcoin—not just Bitcoin exposure12:39 Why Onramp Bitcoin was created14:39 Bitcoin inheritance and generational wealth15:20 The risks of leaving Bitcoin on exchanges16:26 When self-custody becomes too complicated17:12 How multi-institution custody works20:31 Proof of reserves versus proof of ownership23:19 Why podcasts build trust for Bitcoin businesses29:12 Does Bitcoin’s price need to keep rising?31:30 Is there a ceiling to Bitcoin self-custody?33:25 AI, leaked data and physical security risks35:22 Protecting your family versus complete sovereignty39:12 Bitcoin as money, savings and a unit of account40:10 Why hyperbitcoinization is taking longer than expected41:30 Could AI adopt Bitcoin before humans?46:49 Did Trump rug pull the Bitcoin industry?47:58 What went wrong with Bitcoin treasury companies48:34 Wall Street’s Bitcoin infrastructure buildout50:45 Why financial institutions will eventually bend the knee to Bitcoin53:29 How Bitcoin changes the way you see the world56:22 Podcasting, creativity and meaningful relationships58:50 Where to follow Jackson and learn about Onramp Bitcoin Connect with Us: Jackson on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacksonmikalic/ Onramp Media Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/15ONfoz8s1vqyVGbg7re4H Onramp Bitcoin: https://onrampbitcoin.com/ Kyle on X: https://x.com/thekylehuber Kyle on Instagram: @kylehuber21 Kyle's Website: kylehuber.com ⚡ If this conversation gave you something to thinkabout, share it with someone building on Bitcoin.  Support Yourself, Support the Pod! 15% off at Born to Be Free Online Store: https://oshi.link/C2mHb0Buy the Daylight Co DC-1: https://buy.daylightcomputer.com/WEARESATOSHI($25 off with code: WeAreSatoshi) 15% OFF your order of earthy energy : https://liveearthy.co bg_ref=c8KTLsLeKv (code KHuber) 10% off Chroma Blue Light Glasses and Other Products: https://getchroma.co/?ref=ixabomjq (code: KYLE10) SLNT Faraday Bags: https://slnt.com/?avad=428701_b45ea6cd1Stream sats on Fountain: ⁠ https://fountain.fm/show/oNj9eSXpNudLR2XoMtKL Watch + subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WeAreSatoshiPodIf you are interested in buying Bitcoin, River is the best place to do so: ⁠ https://river.com/signup?r=4JAPK6Q2⁠ Send me an email with feedback/questions: [email protected]