The Mum’s Gone Climbing Podcast

Professor Katharina Luttenberger, psychotherapist and climbing coach, is back to talk to us about how bouldering psychosocial support  sessions are improving the wellbeing of refugee youth.  In 2022 Katharina collaborated with the incredible organisation Climb Aid, to research how their YouClimb program is impacting youth in the Beqaa Valley region of Lebanon. She speaks to us about her experience, and the encouraging results of their research.  We also chat to Katharina about how she is able to get outside to climb with her family, and the exciting research projects she will be taking on next.  Huge thanks to our sponsors for supporting this episode and series 5 of the podcast Urban Climb and Climbing Anchors   www.bouldering-psychotherapy.com ( research homepage) www.climbaid.org (organisation Katharina worked with in Lebanon) DONATE TO CLIMB AID   Papers A psychosocial bouldering intervention improves the well-being of young refugees and adolescents from the host community in Lebanon: results from a pragmatic controlled trial | Conflict and Health | Full Text (biomedcentral.com) Bouldering psychotherapy is more effective in the treatment of depression than physical exercise alone: results of a multicentre randomised controlled intervention study | BMC Psychiatry | Full Text (biomedcentral.com) Bouldering psychotherapy is not inferior to cognitive behavioural therapy in the group treatment of depression: A randomized controlled trial - Luttenberger - 2022 - British Journal of Clinical Psychology - Wiley Online Library Content Warning: infrequent strong language Disclaimer: Content, commentary, and opinions shared on the Mum's Gone Climbing podcast are for informational purposes only. They are not a substitute for medical and/or health advice from a professional, and should not be substituted for care based on the facts/circumstances of your individual situation.

Prof. Katharina Luttenberger chats about why fear is so beneficial, what exactly is Bouldering Psychotherapy, and her journey researching the role climbing can take in treating mental health conditions.  Katharina is a psychological psychotherapist, bouldering therapist, and climbing coach. She has spent a decade researching the impact bouldering psychotherapy can have on depression, anxiety, and the wellbeing of young refugees.  Katharina also shares how her own personal journey with climbing has impacted the way she relates to her patients, and why it set her on the path of researching a new treatment model. Huge thanks to our sponsors for supporting this episode and series 5 of the podcast Urban Climb and Climbing Anchors   www.bouldering-psychotherapy.com ( research homepage) www.climbaid.org (organisation Katharina worked with in Lebanon)   Papers A psychosocial bouldering intervention improves the well-being of young refugees and adolescents from the host community in Lebanon: results from a pragmatic controlled trial | Conflict and Health | Full Text (biomedcentral.com) Bouldering psychotherapy is more effective in the treatment of depression than physical exercise alone: results of a multicentre randomised controlled intervention study | BMC Psychiatry | Full Text (biomedcentral.com) Bouldering psychotherapy is not inferior to cognitive behavioural therapy in the group treatment of depression: A randomized controlled trial - Luttenberger - 2022 - British Journal of Clinical Psychology - Wiley Online Library Content Warning: infrequent strong language Disclaimer: Content, commentary, and opinions shared on the Mum's Gone Climbing podcast are for informational purposes only. They are not a substitute for medical and/or health advice from a professional, and should not be substituted for care based on the facts/circumstances of your individual situation.

Our favourite Pelvic Health Physio, Emily Elgar, returns to the podcast to chat prolapse, pessaries and perimenopause. Emily shares some basics around pelvic floor anatomy, different types of prolapses, along with diagnosis and treatment.  This conversation also provided space for Eva, one of our co-hosts, to share her own experience with prolapse. Her story weaved its way through everything Emily spoke about, and gave us insight into the deeper impacts of prolapse.  We wrap up with some fantastic info for those embarking on THE MENOPAUSE. Or maybe the perimenopause, or who really knows because there are so many symptoms and aren't we all just stretched thin and stressed out anyway?! Emily shares some great tips to navigate this often confusing transition.   Huge thanks to our sponsors for supporting this episode and series 5 of the podcast Urban Climb and Climbing Anchors Follow Emily on Instagram @thewomankindphysio Watch our chat about pessaries  POP-Q Assessment Tool Taryn Hallam thelowdown.com Balance App for Menopause Clue App for Menstrual Cycle Listen to past podcasts with Emily; #15 All Things Pelvic Floor and Tuning into What you Need and #16 Health behaviours, Recognising What's Important and Tools for Change   Dyurrite/Mount Arapiles Barengi Gadjin Land Council (BGLC) represents Traditional Owners from the Wotjobaluk, Jaadwa, Jadawadjali, Wergaia and Jupagulk peoples. Learn more here. Read about the Dyurrite Cultural Landscape Management Amendment here.  If you want to understand why Araps is the heart of the climbing community in Australia head to the Human's of Arapiles group to read personal stories of many climbers who have a deep connection to this place Here. This piece of writing from Kieran Norwood is comprehensive and truly heartfelt. It seems to have resonated deeply within the climbing community and has been shared extensively.  Open letter from Climbing Associations around Australia can be read and signed here. Petition open until December 1st 2024.  Legislative Assembly Petition for Victorian Residents ONLY can be signed up until 31st January 2025 here.    Content Warning: infrequent strong language Disclaimer: Content, commentary, and opinions shared on the Mum's Gone Climbing podcast are for informational purposes only. They are not a substitute for medical and/or health advice from a professional, and should not be substituted for care based on the facts/circumstances of your individual situation.

Pelvic Health Clinical Specialist and absolutely delightful human, Emily Elgar, is back on the podcast.  Our conversation explores why creating a space for women's health, and more specifically pelvic health, is so important and needed. Emily also shares her struggles with burnout as a healthcare worker. We discuss the importance of knowing the tell tale warning signs of overwhelm, why doing more doesn't equal more, and the strategies Emily uses when her tank runs empty. Huge thanks to our sponsors for supporting this episode and series 5 of the podcast Urban Climb and Climbing Anchors Follow Emily on Instagram @thewomankindphysio Listen to past podcasts with Emily; #15 All Things Pelvic Floor and Tuning into What you Need and #16 Health behaviours, Recognising What's Important and Tools for Change   Content Warning: infrequent strong language Disclaimer: Content, commentary, and opinions shared on the Mum's Gone Climbing podcast are for informational purposes only. They are not a substitute for medical and/or health advice from a professional, and should not be substituted for care based on the facts/circumstances of your individual situation.  

Trainer and Coach, Joy Black, is back on the podcast to debunk some commonly held myths about the pelvic floor, and enlightens us with essentially incontinence knowledge. Joy specialises in working with climbers through pregnancy and postpartum, from elite athletes to every day climb mamas. It's a job title that gets a lot of deer in the head lights reactions, but Joy's passion for working with women is infectious, and invaluable for our community of mothers.  At the end of 2023 Joy fell from the top of a boulder and blew out her ACL, and possibly a few climbing plans along the way. Our conversation happened 11 weeks post surgery, and Joy shares how she has navigated the journey through injury and recovery both physically and mentally.  Huge thanks to our sponsors for supporting this episode and series 5 of the podcast Urban Climb and Climbing Anchors Check out the NEWEST Urban Climb gym in Adelaide   Follow Joy on instagram @climbingwithjoy Read 'Breath' by James Nester Listen to episode #5 with Joy Black; Breath Mechanics for Climbing and Motherhood  code: MUMSGONECLIMB to get 50% one month of training in either the Postpartum Project or Beta for the Bump Beta for the Bump September PPP Waitlist Get involved in the research study Joy is collaborating on; Climbing During Pregnancy and Postpartum Research Study   Content Warning: infrequent strong language Disclaimer: Content, commentary, and opinions shared on the Mum's Gone Climbing podcast are for informational purposes only. They are not a substitute for medical and/or health advice from a professional, and should not be substituted for care based on the facts/circumstances of your individual situation.

Trainer and Coach, Joy Black, is back on the podcast with all the beta for climbing through pregnancy and postpartum.  Joy has worked with professional athletes and everyday climbers around the world as they navigate the journey into motherhood and beyond.  She shares her top tips for mitigating risk, that are a whole lot more helpful than 'don't bump your bump'. Along with the more nuanced assessments of bouldering and lead climbing. We also chat about the first baby steps in research, and the importance of having more robust studies.  Huge thanks to our sponsors for supporting this episode and series 5 of the podcast Urban Climb and Climbing Anchors   Check out the NEWEST Urban Climb gym in Adelaide Follow Joy on instagram @climbingwithjoy code: MUMSGONECLIMB to get 50% one month of training in either the Postpartum Project or Beta for the Bump Beta for the Bump September PPP Waitlist Get involved in the research study Joy is collaborating on; Climbing During Pregnancy and Postpartum Research Study   Content Warning: infrequent strong language Disclaimer: Content, commentary, and opinions shared on the Mum's Gone Climbing podcast are for informational purposes only. They are not a substitute for medical and/or health advice from a professional, and should not be substituted for care based on the facts/circumstances of your individual situation.  

Northern Rocks gym director, Sarah Hay, chats about taking things day by day. Whether facing challenges, or building motivation, it's about making those first steps.  Trigger Warning: We discuss infant loss and stillbirth in this conversation.  Part two of our conversation with Sarah delves into her motherhood journey. Her decision to have children wasn't straight forward, Sarah worried that her driven and independent personality wouldn't align with the ideals of being a mother.  Sarah shares her experience of losing their first baby at 23 weeks. The impact the loss made on her, and how she navigates her grief.  We also discuss the demands of juggling two young children, owning a business, and still carving out time to pursue what gives you joy. Huge thanks to our sponsors for supporting this episode and series 5 of the podcast Urban Climb and Climbing Anchors Buy some FujFuj SO CUTE Buy an Chalktopus also SO CUTE Check out the awesome Boulderfest COMP You can follow Sarah on instagram @sarahhay.climbing Visit Northern Rocks in Auckland northernrocks.co.nz Listen to Blak Matters Podcast with Teela Reid and MC Content Warning: infrequent strong language Disclaimer: Content, commentary, and opinions shared on the Mum's Gone Climbing podcast are for informational purposes only. They are not a substitute for medical and/or health advice from a professional, and should not be substituted for care based on the facts/circumstances of your individual situation.

Sarah Hay embodies dedication and persistence in all she sets her sights on. She is a coach, a route setter, and the owner and director of Northern Rocks gym in Auckland.  A climbing trip to Europe sparked Sarah's dream of opening a gym back in New Zealand. But it would be many years, and many set backs before that became a reality.  Sarah chats to us about the importance she places on creating opportunities within Northern Rocks for girls, women, and gender neutral climbers. She discusses her own challenges in this male dominated world, and shares how she has been able to create supportive spaces in management, route setting, and their local climbing community.  We also chat about Sarah's other passion, weight lifting. Why she initially included it in her climbing training, and how it makes her walk through the world with more confidence.  Huge thanks to our sponsors for supporting this episode and series 5 of the podcast Urban Climb and Climbing Anchors You can follow Sarah on instagram @sarahhay.climbing Visit Northern Rocks in Auckland northernrocks.co.nz Content Warning: infrequent strong language Disclaimer: Content, commentary, and opinions shared on the Mum's Gone Climbing podcast are for informational purposes only. They are not a substitute for medical and/or health advice from a professional, and should not be substituted for care based on the facts/circumstances of your individual situation.

Beth Rodden has navigated incredibly difficult experiences through her life and climbing career. She has accomplished some of the hardest routes in the world, competed at elite levels, and survived a kidnapping in the far reaches of Kyrgyzstan.  Through all of these experiences Beth also battled a pervasive inner dialogue. One that was often cruel, and pushed her to seek the perfection that continually skips out of reach.  In part 2 of our chat with Beth she shares her thoughts on cultivating and celebrating a softer strength, how therapy and self work is a lifelong practice, and the positives of social media.  Huge thanks to our sponsors for supporting this episode and series 5 of the podcast Urban Climb and Climbing Anchors You can follow Beth on instagram @bethrodden Watch This is Beth Buy Beth's book 'A Light Through the Cracks' available on Audible, Kindle, and paperback bethrodden.com   Content Warning: infrequent strong language Disclaimer: Content, commentary, and opinions shared on the Mum's Gone Climbing podcast are for informational purposes only. They are not a substitute for medical and/or health advice from a professional, and should not be substituted for care based on the facts/circumstances of your individual situation.

Beth Rodden is renowned for her determination, grit and ability to unlock some of the hardest lines in the climbing world. She is a trail blazer for female climbers wanting to push the boundaries of what was once thought possible. In a community that is often fuelled by bravado, Beth has also created space for a softer strength. One that is open, and vulnerable, and connects us deeply through the human experience.  It was a privilege to speak with Beth about the constant exploration and unfolding discovery of her own life experience. Part One of our conversation delves into Beth's introduction to motherhood, and the way we relate to our bodies through climbing, injuries, and the different stages of life. Huge thanks to our sponsors for supporting this episode and series 5 of the podcast Urban Climb and Climbing Anchors You can follow Beth on instagram @bethrodden Watch This is Beth Buy Beth's book 'A Light Through the Cracks' available on Audible, Kindle, and paperback bethrodden.com   Content Warning: infrequent strong language Disclaimer: Content, commentary, and opinions shared on the Mum's Gone Climbing podcast are for informational purposes only. They are not a substitute for medical and/or health advice from a professional, and should not be substituted for care based on the facts/circumstances of your individual situation.