The Mater Podcast

The fabulous Evie Hatch is back on the podcast as our first ever return guest.. Evie came on last year with artist Ginny Elston to talk about pigments, and now she's back on her own to chat about how she got into this subject, and what she has been up to since our last conversation.Evie suggested the topic of this conversation: the poetics of colour names, and the way these names shape how we imagine and use colour. Burnt sienna, vermillion, prussian blue, cadmium.. the names of paint colours are so familiar in the world of traditional art materials, but what do they actually mean? where do they come from? And what can they reveal about the history of colour?Evie Hatch is a pigment specialist and art historian, who writes and presents the hugely popular Jacksons Art Supplies Pigment Stories. She also lectures, and has talked for the National gallery and Dulwich Picture Gallery on colour and pigments. Yes.. this is a conversation about colour names, but it's really about so much more. It's about insects, rocks and plants.. And it's about people, mysteries, accidental discoveries, feuds, poetry, and secret recipesI hope you enjoy this conversation!Follow Evie Hatch: https://www.instagram.com/evie_hatch/?hl=enJacksons Art Supplies: https://www.instagram.com/jacksons_art/?hl=en Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This is a conversation with Verity Babbs (art historian and comedian) about Arsenic - which is a naturally occurring element that is toxic to humans. Arsenic is used in many traditional pigment recipes, and ended up being used widely during the Victorian era in paintings, clothing and wallpaper. If you are interested in people and the stories that make us human, then this is a conversation for you. Often the odd quirks of people can be forgotten through history, because it they don’t fit with a narrative around their work. But for Verity the often challenging aspects of people’s personalities is what makes her understand them as actual humans.. And in the case of arsenic the figure we are focussing on is the designer, poet, artist, writer, and socialist activist William Morris, often associated with the British Arts and Crafts movement, whose incredibly famous wallpaper once contained arsenic based pigments. Verity Babbs is a Presenter, Art Historian & Comedian. Her work focuses on making art history more accessible and bringing laughter into cultural spaces. She is the author of ‘The History of Art in One Sentence’ which was published by Bloomsbury in 2025. And is the founder of Art Laughs live art-themed comedy events which frequently perform at the National Gallery. She graduated with a History of Art Degree from the University of Oxford and was named one of BBC HistoryExtra's '30 Under 30' in 2024.LinksVerity Babbs on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/veritybabbsart/Art Laughs: https://www.veritybabbs.com/art-laughsThe History of Art in One Sentence: https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/history-of-art-in-one-sentence-9781526686893/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today’s conversation is all about Salvage.. Which is the finding, rescuing & gathering of materials and objects that have had a previous life, and might otherwise be discarded. My guests are Tim Ralston, director of the art residency PADA Studios and an artist himself, working primarily with wood. Alice Bonnot is an independent art curator, and environmental sustainability consultant, who has been working with PADA in an ongoing project to become more sustainable and reduce their carbon footprint. Alice is the founder of Villa Villa - a platform & consultancy ‘advocating for climate-conscious arts’We recorded this conversation at the PADA residency site which is located a short ferry and walk from Lisbon city centre, in a former industrial park with roots dating back to 1885. I was also lucky to take part in the residency in 2023.I was so excited to speak about Salvage because it’s an idea that so many of the artists I speak to connect with. There are so many practical benefits for this - but one of the most compelling reasons outlined today is because salvaged materials are imbued with this incredible social layer which connects us to human histories. Through salvage we discuss material memory, craft, care, the preservation of the resources we have, as well as thinking about why things are wasted, over-consumption, and some very insightful ways that we can break away from this habit. Tim: https://www.instagram.com/tim.ralston/Alice: https://www.instagram.com/bonnota/PADA: https://www.padastudios.com/Villav Villa: https://villavilla.co/Environmentally Sustainable Artist Studio Practices: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QaR74WWopZtIefHqDhXeGCR764aVAUNN/view Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

InstagramLucy’s websiteLucy Mayes has been making pigments and paints since 2018 and has taught the craft since 2020. She is the founder of London Pigment - a project making pigment from waste stream materials. We also discuss her book -The Natural Pigment Handbook: A Maker’s Guide to the Art, Stories and Recipes for Creating Paint - published in 2025. We recorded this conversation earlier this year in Lucy’s public studio and shop in Portsmouth's historic Hotwalls Studios. Pigment Making is officially recognised as an endangered craft on the Heritage Craft red list. Lucy writes “Every hand-made pigment carries within it a chain of knowledge linking geology, landscape, chemistry, art and history, making the preservation of the craft about far more than simply producing colour.” And this what i think is so significant about her way of working - this work speaks to our connection with place, history, the materiality of colour, what it is to engage with a heritage craft, all through the act of making pigments.The Natural Pigment Handbook, Lucy MayesWe spoke about the artist Michelle Stuart Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

APPLY to Joya AiR + Mater residency (plus info and terms & conditions): https://joya-air.org/joya-mater-applyJoya: AiR is a landmark international, interdisciplinary arts residency grounded in the intersection of creative practice, ecological inquiry, and sustainable cultural engagement. Situated within an off‑grid, climate‑positive environment in rural Andalucía, the residency fosters an intellectually rigorous and generative context where artists, writers, and researchers from diverse disciplinary backgrounds can deepen their practice, expand critical perspectives, and engage collaboratively with ecological and cultural challenges. Joya AiR website: https://joya-air.org/Joya AiR on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joya_air/Mater is an evolving research & publishing project founded by Maddie Rose Hills, exploring our relationship with materials through commissioned writing, interviews, exhibitions, and podcasting. Mater brings together artists, geologists, architects, curators, ecologists, gardeners and writers, investigating what draws us to particular materials, the stories materials hold, and how they shape our lives.Mater website: https://mater.digital/Mater on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mater________/Email me with any questions: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

My two guests are completely passionate about the subject of Minerals... artist Mále Uribe and writer/geoloist Marcia BjornerudMále Uribe is a Chilean architect and artist whose work explores material culture, the value of natural resources, myths, chemical properties, industrial processes and microworlds. As designer in residence at London’s Design Museum in 2019, her installation Salt Imaginaries focused on the extractive processes around minerals located in the Atacama desert in Chile. and her 2025 Somerset House installation for the Chilean Pavilion at London Design Biennale was a investigation of minerals from the Andes titled’ Minerasophia: Underground Cycles. In her work materials are understood as vibrant and autonomous entities that carry a transformative power. Male suggested Marcia Bjornerud for this podcast.. Marcia is a structural geologist whose research focuses on the physics of earthquakes and mountain building. Bjournerud has written several books including Turning to Stone: Discovering the Subtle Wisdom of Rocks, and Timefulness: How thinking Like a Geologist Can Help Save the World. She is a Fellow of the Geological Society and a contributing writer to The New Yorker, Wired, the Wall Street Journal and the Los Angeles Times.. Marcia Bjornerudhttps://www.lawrence.edu/people/marcia-bjornerud-walter-schober-professor-of-environmental-studies-and-professor-of-geosciencesEmergence essay, Wrinkled Time: https://emergencemagazine.org/essay/wrinkled-time/Turning to Stone: Discovering the Subtle Wisdom of Rocks. Book by Marcia BjornerudTimefulness: How Thinking Like a Geologist Can Help Save the World. Book by Marcia BjornerudMále UribeInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/estudio.male/?hl=enSalt Imaginaries, London Design Museum: https://designmuseum.org/exhibitions/designersinresidence2019cosmic/salt-imaginaries-by-mle-uribe-forsMinerasophia, Chile Pavilion and Design Biennale, Somerset House: https://londondesignbiennale.com/pavilions/2025/chile'La Medula' Poem by Ursula le Guin (referenced by Male): https://www.instagram.com/p/BuqP-zPl8xb/Vibrant Matter: A Political Ecology of Things. Book by Jane BennettMaterhttps://mater.digital/Find more images from our conversation on the Mater instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mater________/?hl=enGet in touch: [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This fascinating conversation was recorded at the Rembrandthuis museum in Amsterdam, where I had the pleasure of speaking with The Rembrandt House curator, and the former head of paintings conservation at the Rijksmuseum. We were discussing the paintings of the 17th century Dutch artist Rembrandt van Rijn: about Rembrandt’s pigments, the evolution of his painting process, and the art of painting conservation. My two guests couldn't be more perfect for this podcast because they have both been at the forefront of both unveiling and sharing the latest discoveries into Rembrandt’s materials..Petria Noble is the former Head of Paintings Conservation at the Rijksmuseum, a position she held between 2014 and 2022. She is a researcher specialised in paintings by Rembrandt van Rijn, and an expert in the material aspects of his paintings. Prior to joining the Rijksmuseum, Petria worked for 18 years as a Paintings Conservator at the Mauritshuis museum in The Hague.  Leonore van Sloten has held a position as curator at The Rembrandt House Museum in Amsterdam since 2005, here she’s responsible for various exhibitions and publications on Rembrandt and related themes.. She initiated and curated amongst others the 2019 exhibition Rembrandt Laboratory: Rembrandt’s Technique Unravelled, the exhibition that we discuss in this conversation, which shone a spotlight on the world of scientific research into materials and techniques. I'm Maddie Rose Hills, and you have been listening to The Mater PodcastFind images from our conversation on the Mater Instagram account: https://www.instagram.com/mater________/?hl=en-gb Related linksRembrandt House Museum: https://www.rembrandthuis.nl/en/?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=692326751&gbraid=0AAAAADSRQune0nZ9wB8TfU1tnowVtWEeI&gclid=Cj0KCQiA0KrJBhCOARIsAGIy9wBP9jrDMiXcvx-b-bCP7UN7yffJpwk_csoiU9bx7erGmLeE_ftk9gkaAhFcEALw_wcBPetria Noble: https://dutchmethodunfolded.humanities.uva.nl/?page_id=474Leonore van Sloten: https://www.leonorevansloten.com/Mauritshuis: https://www.mauritshuis.nl/en?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=1613811005&gbraid=0AAAAADuJqF0q5DhmqQoriFVNj5wZ7Kuwt&gclid=Cj0KCQiA0KrJBhCOARIsAGIy9wC2-pIUMtAUUgxiUzjJYrDJNwt6u8xX_5m1lWHykc1HmpHLyBsKHNwaAgC9EALw_wcBArt Matters Journal: https://www.amjournal.org/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

BCB: https://www.britishceramicsbiennial.com/ This year’s programme: https://www.britishceramicsbiennial.com/news/full-programme-announced-for-british-ceramics-biennial-2025/Clare Wood: https://www.britishceramicsbiennial.com/person/clare-wood/Burleigh Pottery: https://www.burleigh.co.uk/pages/about-usReForm Herritage: https://re-form.org/Recast programme BCB: https://www.britishceramicsbiennial.com/project/recast/The podcast that Clare mentions about the Recast programme: https://open.spotify.com/episode/750cQoCFPCXBv8YjQGJWLNClaire Baily episode of The Mater Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-mater-podcast/id1749226924?i=1000694666344 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome back!! Today I'm speaking with Tessa Silva about MILK. Tessa is a British-Brazilian artist whose work considers our collective use of materials from ancient history to the present day. Using craft as a tool to investigate the relationship between culture and nature, Tessa unravels the storied histories of the materials she works with in the knowledge that every material has its own biography. Using milk as her primary medium, Tessa has spent the last six years working with surplus milk proteins as a material to produce bespoke, handcrafted sculptural objects. Titled Feminised Protein, a term first coined by American writer, feminist, and animal rights advocate Carol J Adams to address the exploitation of non-human reproductive cycles to produce food on a mass scale, Tessa’s project exists in dialogue with themes of sustainability, history, nature and motherhood.The Feminised Protein project has been exhibited at institutions such as the Victoria and Albert Museum in London, the Museum of Applied Arts in Vienna, and at the 10th edition of Future Heritage, curated by Corinne Julius. Tessa has delivered lectures on her practice at the V&A, Henry Moore Studios, and for the British Council’s Circular Cultures programme.Tessa SilvaTessa on InstagramTessa's Mater textEsther Leslie's Mater textMa-tter Seetal SolankiAlfriston ClergyWeald and Downland museumHook and Son Farm - raw organic dairy farmArts Council England, Developing Your Creative Practice grant Tessa referenced two other episodes of The Mater Podcast: 'Emma Witter & Krista Mileva Frank' and 'Andrew Cummings & Claye Bowler'Mater on InstagramThe Mater website Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week on The Mater Podcast, Evie Hatch, studio and materials specialist and host of Jackson's Pigment Stories, is joined by artist Ginny Elston to discuss The Personalities of Pigments. Ginny, winner of the Student Award in Jackson’s Art Prize 2023, shares her insights on her collaboration with Unison Colour to curate a series of soft pastels (pictured here). Evie and Ginny also dive into pigments, paint, and their own understandings of colour.Ginny Elston (Instagram)WebsiteEvie Hatch (Instagram)Jacksons Art (Instagram)Jacksons Art blogJacksons Art Supplies online shopJacksons Art PrizeGinny's Versatility Soft Pastel Set for UnisonGinny teaches private classes in Edinburgh, held at Scot-Art, (@thescotart) on London Road. It's a local hub for artists in the city with community spaces, studios and galleries.Ginny’s interview with JacksonsLinks mentioned throughout the conversationAmy Sillman, On ColourRebecca Fortnum, On Not Knowing: How Artists ThinkThe Mater Podcast episode on the colour blueKatharina Grosse - colour liberated from the confines of support. Instagram | WebsiteGinny’s recommendations for Art Schoolsthe New York Studio School (@ny_studioschool)Leith School of Art (@leithschoolofart)There are some great artists teaching at Black Pond Studio (@blackpondstudio)Ginny also teaches private classes in Edinburgh, held at Scot-Art, (@thescotart) on London Road. It's a local hub for artists in the city with community spaces, studios and galleries.Reach out - Mater________ on InstagramWebsite - mater.digitalEmail - [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.