The Future of Procurement

SAP Delivery VP Sumeet Kulshrestha shares valuable lessons on what derails procurement implementations and how to course-correct before, during, and after go-live.Guest: Sumeet Kulshrestha – Delivery Vice President, SAP Customer Services & DeliveryHost: Erik Derenne – Director, Solution Advisory, SAP Finance & Spend Host: Sarah Nelson – Senior Solution Advisory, SAP Finance & SpendHost: Jon Williams – Director, Solution Advisory, SAP Finance & Spend Why do so many procurement implementations fail to deliver on their promised value? Is change management just a matter of issuing a policy and expecting compliance? What happens when procurement moves forward without considering the impact on finance, AP, and HR? And if your go-live is behind you but results still haven't followed, is it too late to course-correct? Our guest today, Sumeet Kulshrestha, found his way into the procurement world through Ariba's acquisition of Softface and has spent over twenty years sitting across the table from customers in crisis, building the frameworks that get organizations back on track. As Delivery VP for SAP Customer Services and Delivery, he leads the teams called in precisely when something feels off. Sumeet is direct that the most expensive thing a customer can do is buy a solution and not use it. Before a single workshop is scheduled, he urges organizations to recognize that procurement touches far more of the business than most expect, including finance, AP, and HR. Customers who overlook those connections often find something broken the moment they go live. His prescription is to bring all affected stakeholders in early and establish a governance structure with a committee that has real authority and the mandate to make decisions and keep things moving. Sumeet advocates for fit-to-standard processes as the default, noting that most procurement activity does not represent true competitive differentiation. Even where configuration makes sense, customization done for the right reasons can drive broader innovation: one of Ariba's most widely adopted features, invoicing against a contract, started as a customer customization that product engineers later standardized. The key is distinguishing configurations that solve a real strategic problem from those that simply digitize an old process. For organizations nervous about adoption, a phased rollout can help. Start with receptive users, build proof points, then bring along the holdouts. Perhaps Sumeet's most counterintuitive insight is that ninety-five percent or more of the problems he sees occur after go-live, not before. Go-live is not the destination; it is where the real work begins. For organizations not getting expected value, his advice is simple: contact your account executive or CSM, request a health check, and work through SAP's three-step process of assess, stabilize, and optimize. Sumeet acknowledges that AI inevitable, but it’s not a replacement for people. The three-legged stool of people, process, and technology will not lose a leg; it will gain a fourth, preserving the human judgment that makes procurement matter. So, let’s dive in, and don’t forget to like, share, and subscribe. I am your host Erik Derenne, and you’re listening to The Future of Procurement Podcast. Follow SAP: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sap/Follow SAP Ariba: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ariba/ Follow Sumeet: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sumeetksh/Follow Erik: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erik-derenne/  Follow Sarah: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/swnelson12/Follow Jon: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-williams121/Please like, share, and subscribe!Send feedback and questions to ⁠⁠⁠[email protected]

Global VP of Research at SAP, Gordon Donovan sits down with procurement leaders from Nestlé, Kraft Heinz, and Heineken at the recent World Procurement Congress.Guest: Jacob Busk Nielsen – Chief Procurement Officer, NestléGuest: Janelle Aydin – Chief Procurement and Sustainability Officer, Kraft HeinzGuest: Hervé Le Faou – Chief Procurement Officer, HeinekenSpecial Host: Gordon Donovan – Global VP of Research, SAP – Procurement Are you curious what making chocolate, ketchup and ice-cold beer have in common?  Well from an ingredient and production standpoint, probably not a whole lot… However, when it comes to building a resilient and strategic procurement function, there is actually quite a bit of similarity. In this special episode, Gordon Donovan sat down one-one with procurement leaders Jacob Busk Nielsen at Nestlé, Janelle Aydin from Kraft Heinz, and Hervé Le Faou of Heineken to learn how each of these companies approach the procurement office as a strategic function and how they are preparing for the next major transformative disruptor, Agentic AI. Despite the diverse product portfolios, geographies and corporate cultures among these major companies in the Consumer Products industry, one common thread all three leaders share is curiosity as a core procurement skill. This curiosity mindset helps these companies adapt to supply volatility and embrace emerging trends faster than their competition and keeps their businesses at the forefront of procurement innovation.  These leaders have figured out how to turn disruption into a competitive advantage as opposed to a handicap. With AI offering the promise of immense potential but also the threat of extreme disruption, Jacob, Janelle and Hervé are tapping into their curiosity to make the right investments.  They are leaning into their procurement teams to ask the hard questions, build resilient processes that capitalize on the strength of AI, and define their procurement strategy of the future that will keep them at the top of their industries for years to come. So, let’s dive in, and don’t forget to like, share, and subscribe. I am your host Erik Derenne, and you’re listening to The Future of Procurement Podcast. Follow SAP: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sap/Follow SAP Ariba: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ariba/Follow Jacob: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacob-busk-nielsen-204620/ Follow Janelle: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janelle-aydin-0816563/ Follow Hervé: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hervé-le-faou-9048642/ Follow Gordon: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gordon-donovan-6305b13/Please like, share, and subscribe!Send feedback and questions to ⁠⁠[email protected]

SAP Value and Solutions Advisor, Mitch Myers guides us through his process for matching business value with process improvement to defend the case for procurement transformation.Guest: Mitch Myers – Director, Solution and Value Advisory, SAP Finance & SpendHost: Erik Derenne – Director, Solution Advisory, SAP Finance & Spend Host: Sarah Nelson – Senior Solution Advisory, SAP Finance & SpendHost: Justin Morse – Vice President, Solution Advisory, SAP Americas, Finance & Spend What does a successful procurement transformation really look like? Is it just a matter of implementing the right technology and waiting for the savings to roll in? Is the loudest voice in the room always pointing you in the right direction? And when the implementation wraps up, are you really done? Our guest today, Mitch Myers, brings a rare combination of perspectives to the table. With over 25 years working with SAP and SAP Ariba solutions — spanning roles as a technology consultant, a management consultant at McKinsey, and Global Process Owner at Takeda Pharmaceuticals where he oversaw approximately $16 billion in annual transactions across SAP solutions — Mitch has seen procurement transformation from every angle. Now at SAP as a Director of Solution and Value Advisory, he shares the hard-won lessons he's carried from industry into advisory. Mitch challenges the common assumption that process improvement alone is enough to deliver transformation results. Instead, he advocates for evaluating every process change through the lens of business value and applying the 80/20 principle to focus on the improvements that actually move the needle. He cautions against the perfectionism trap where chasing every complaint or polishing every process to 100% means neglecting the next high-value opportunity. Better to time-box your priorities, lay out a clear roadmap, and accept that transformation is a continuous journey of iteration, not a project with a finish line. On building the business case, Mitch describes an outside-in to inside-out approach — walking customers through how the numbers are derived so they can refine the model until they own it. He also reinforces that successful transformation requires all three P's to be aligned: People, Process, and Platforms. Miss any one of them and the effort will stall, regardless of how capable the technology is. Sustained value comes from ongoing maturation, adoption, and what he simply calls keeping the plant watered. Finally, Mitch offers a compelling framework for where procurement is headed. Procurement has historically played the role of gatekeeper — the function that controls, constrains, and approves. The best organizations have elevated it to business partner, collaborating proactively with finance, R&D, and other functions. But the ultimate destination — made possible as AI absorbs more transactional and lower-level activities — is procurement as a true advisory function. One where stakeholders seek out procurement by choice, not obligation, because they know it will bring strategic value they can't get anywhere else. So, let’s dive in, and don’t forget to like, share, and subscribe. I am your host Erik Derenne, and you’re listening to The Future of Procurement Podcast.  Follow SAP: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sap/Follow SAP Ariba: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ariba/ Follow Mitch: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/myersmitch/ Follow Erik: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erik-derenne/ Follow Justin: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinmorse/   Follow Sarah: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/swnelson12/Please like, share, and subscribe!Send feedback and questions to ⁠⁠[email protected]

Global VP of Research at SAP, Gordon Donovan sits down with procurement leaders from NHS Supply Chain, Pfizer, and Moderna at the recent World Procurement Congress.Guest: Richard Evans – Executive Commercial Director of Supply Chain, NHS Supply ChainGuest: Sirsij Peshin – CPO & Global Source-to-Pay Lean, PfizerGuest: Alan Rankin – Chief Procurement Officer, ModernaSpecial Host: Gordon Donovan – Global VP of Research, SAP – Procurement Ever wonder what the procurement leaders at some of the largest, most complex and influential companies in the health and life sciences industry are thinking about?   What keeps them up at night?  How do they respond to disruption?  What are their top priorities and challenges today and where do they see procurement headed tomorrow?In this special episode, Gordon Donovan sat down one-one with procurement leaders Richard Evans at NHS Supply Chain in the United Kingdom, Sirsij Peshin of Pfizer, and Alan Rankin from Moderna to get valuable insights into how each of these companies currently approach procurement and supply chain and how they are preparing for the future. Despite drastic differences in the size and make-up of these companies, all three leaders shared similar viewpoints in putting the patient above cost savings.  They also all shared the unique and innovative ways they each have overcome disruption and adversity to come out more resilient and how they’ve leaned into new technologies and processes to build resilience into the fabric of their procurement and supply chain operations.   As AI becomes more prevalent, these leaders are actively asking the tough questions to reimagine the procurement function of the future.  They understand the importance of Data, the enduring relevance of the human connection, and the hidden value of the risks that can be avoided with improved visibility and process resilience.  Ultimately, it comes down to trust. So, let’s dive in, and don’t forget to like, share, and subscribe. I am your host Erik Derenne, and you’re listening to The Future of Procurement Podcast.  Follow SAP: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sap/Follow SAP Ariba: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ariba/Follow Richard: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-evans-bba6a64/Follow Sirsij: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sirsij/  Follow Alan: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alan-rankin-a2733a6/Follow Gordon: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gordon-donovan-6305b13/Please like, share, and subscribe!Send feedback and questions to ⁠[email protected]

Solution Manager for SAP NS2, Jeff Korol demystifies the processes and protocols of regulated industries and explains how security and compliance is critical to the future of procurement.Guest: Jeff Korol – Solution Manager, SAP NS2 (National Security Services)Host: Ryan Sammel – Director, Solution Advisory, SAP Finance & Spend – Regulated IndustriesHost: Sarah Nelson – Senior Solution Advisory, SAP Finance & SpendHost: Justin Morse – Vice President, Solution Advisory, SAP Americas, Finance & SpendWhat is the first thing that comes to mind when you hear the term “Regulated Industry”?   Do you first think about government?  The military?  Classified information?  Top-level security clearance and background checks?  Bureaucratic processes, rigorous data collection, and overly redundant compliance protocols?Our guest today, Jeff Korol, is part of a specialized and independent U.S. subsidiary of SAP called SAP NationalSecurity Services (aka SAP NS2).  In this role, Jeff works across all customers and industries that require an extra layer of regulatory security and compliance standards to ensure all classified and confidential data is handled properly, and all Users that may had direct or indirect access are properly vetted, screened and validated to mitigate security risks in an environment where the stakes are high and the data is sensitive. Besides educating us on avariety of acronyms unique to the industry and explaining their importance in adhering to a set of compliance standards by which data, people and processes are categorized by, Jeff also enlightened us to the reality that many private sector companies that support regulated industries as a vendor must also adhere to these same regulatory standards to secure business in these industries.   Further, as AI and other emerging technologies become more prevalent, Jeff predicts that more companies in the private sector will start to explore and adopt the rigorous securitystandards already in place in the regulatory environment.  Similar to how NASA has pioneered many innovations that now exist in the market as commonplace, he sees the securityprotocols developed and delivered by SAP NS2 as becoming the standard by which companies stay ahead of the emerging cybersecurity threats and risks that can plague corporate security and their reputation. So, let’s dive in, and don’t forget to like, share, and subscribe. I am your host Erik Derenne, and you’re listening to The Future of Procurement Podcast.  Follow SAP: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sap/Follow SAP Ariba: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ariba/Follow SAP NS2: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sapns2/  Follow Jeff: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-korol/ Follow Ryan: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-sammel/ Follow Erik: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erik-derenne/ Follow Justin: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinmorse/Follow Sarah: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/swnelson12/Please like, share, and subscribe!Send feedback and questions to [email protected]

VP of Information Security, Sebastian Haupt explains the role IT and Information Security plays in the future of enterprise AI and how trust matters more than speed in driving meaningful value.Guest: Seb Haupt – Vice President, Information Security & IT Operations, Pager HealthHost: Sarah Nelson – Senior Solution Advisory, SAP Finance & SpendHost: Erik Derenne – Director, Strategic Solution Advisory, SAP Finance & SpendHost: Justin Morse – Vice President, Solution Advisory, SAP Americas, Finance & Spend What is your company’s current approach to AI?  Is it move fast and break things?  Is it slow and steady wins the race?  Or is it to avoid at all costs?   My guess is that depending on your role, you might have very different perspectives on what the best approach should be.Our guest today, Seb Haupt, helps us navigate the challenges companies are facing in the fast-paced and ever-changing landscape of AI tools, models and capabilities.  As the VP of Information Security, he has a unique perspective on the role of trust and governance in the AI race.  He explains the importance of regulated data access and security, well-defined business processes, and maintaining deep understanding of how the AI tools and models work as a foundation to realizing success. Surprisingly, Seb isn’t suggesting InfoSec or IT act as the gatekeeper or be a barrier to AI adoption but instead advocating for an open conversation with the business around goals, outcomes and a path to adoption.  He believes that the role of IT and Information Security teams should be in figuring out how to get to “Yes” when it comes to implementing and adopting AI solutions, while also maintaining data integrity, access controls and system security.  In this way, Seb sees himself and others in the IT/InfoSec space as enablers of AI technologies in the organization, ensuring that that the proper guardrails are in place to protect the company, while allowing the end Users enough control and flexibility to drive valuable outcomes.  He also notes that the AI race is a marathon, not a sprint, and this level of trust will be crucial in determining which companies find success in their AI journey. So, let’s dive in, and don’t forget to like, share, and subscribe. I am your host Erik Derenne, and you’re listening to The Future of Procurement Podcast.  Follow SAP: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sap/Follow SAP Ariba: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ariba/Follow Pager Health: https://www.linkedin.com/company/pager-health/ Follow Seb: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sebastianhaupt/ Follow Erik: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erik-derenne/ Follow Justin: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinmorse/   Follow Sarah: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/swnelson12/ Please like, share, and subscribe!Send feedback and questions to [email protected]

Professor of Business Analytics, Anil Kumar provides insights on how AI is being used in the classroom to shift how students are shaping the future of how work is done in the AI era.Guest: Anil Kumar – Professor of Business Analytics, Texas A&M University College of BusinessHost: Sarah Nelson – Senior Solution Advisory, SAP Finance & SpendHost: Erik Derenne – Director, Strategic Solution Advisory, SAP Finance & SpendHost: Justin Morse – Vice President, Solution Advisory, SAP Americas, Finance & Spend What is your comfort level with AI?  How deep have you gone down the AI rabbit hole of using the models, tools, and applications to create things to optimize your life?   Are you an AI Native or are you an AI Immigrant?Our guest today, Anil Kumar, helps us understand the impact that AI is having on one of the most important areas of society…the classroom.  A professor of Business Analytics at Texas A&M University, Anil explains that today’s students are among the first generations that have grown up with AI as part of their everyday lives and are well-positioned to use that to reshape how people and AI co-exist in the workplace of the future. One of the biggest surprises is that Anil does not shy away from students using AI in the classroom.  In fact, he encourages it.  His belief is that these are the tools and skills that will drive businesses going forward and that the ability to build things though “vibe coding” or other methodologies will be critical to helping solve some of the biggest challenges organizations face today. As an added bonus, students and young people are often curious about the world and offer a fresh perspective on how to solve problems.  As the future of work evolves to adapt to this new AI-first mindset, fresh perspectives are exactly what will drive success and deliver AI with purpose.  Anil suggests a collaboration between active students and business leaders could revolutionize how students prepare for the workforce while also providing these businesses with these fresh ideas for how to utilize AI in new ways. So, let’s dive in, and don’t forget to like, share, and subscribe. I am your host Erik Derenne, and you’re listening to The Future of Procurement Podcast.  Follow SAP: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sap/Follow SAP Ariba: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ariba/ Follow Anil: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kumaranil2025/ Follow Erik: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erik-derenne/ Follow Justin: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinmorse/   Follow Sarah: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/swnelson12/ Please like, share, and subscribe!Send feedback and questions to ⁠⁠[email protected]

Fellow SAP Solution Advisor, Jay Brand shares his unfiltered thoughts on the driving factors of procurement transformations and how AI should factor into the procurement strategy.Guest: Jay Brand – Director, Strategic Solution Advisory, SAP Finance & SpendHost: Sarah Nelson – Senior Solution Advisory, SAP Finance & SpendHost: Erik Derenne – Director, Strategic Solution Advisory, SAP Finance & SpendHost: Justin Morse – Vice President, Solution Advisory, SAP Americas, Finance & Spend Is the technology the ultimate driver of change in a procurement transformation?  Can software magically fix poor processes, bad data, or unclear goals and KPIs?  Does the transformation end when the new software goes live?  Will AI be the solution for all these challenges?Our guest today, Jay Brand, has been on both sides of the aisle having gone through procurement transformation during his time at 3M in addition to helping customers navigate transformations today at SAP.  Drawing on his experiences, Jay answers these questions and more, with his signature style and directness that his customers and colleagues love. Jay stresses the importance of a solid plan, strong leadership vision, and measurable KPIs in guiding the direction and success of any transformation program.  He cautions against some of the typical roadblocks like analysis paralysis and designing to perfection and instead offers the mantra of “move fast and break things” as a way to fail fast and move on – figure out what works and adjust what doesn’t. Additionally, Jay uses a vivid analogy to explain that true transformation doesn’t end when the go-live party happens.  Implementing the new software is just one step in a constant cycle of analysis, reflection, adjustment and adoption that continuously evolves as circumstances change in the organization. Finally, Jay discusses the role AI will play in all this and offers up a somewhat bold prediction that although AI will make things faster and more efficient, the role of the procurement professional and the processes of procurement will remain largely the same.   So, let’s dive in, and don’t forget to like, share, and subscribe. I am your host Erik Derenne, and you’re listening to The Future of Procurement Podcast.  Follow SAP: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sap/Follow SAP Ariba: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ariba/ Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jay-brand-436901b/ Follow Erik: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erik-derenne/ Follow Justin: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinmorse/   Follow Sarah: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/swnelson12/ Please like, share, and subscribe!Send feedback and questions to ⁠[email protected]

Associate Partner at IBM, Curt Reppart talks about a new, selective transformation approach that helps his customers find balance in new and existing technology, processes and data.Guest: Curt Reppart – Associate Partner, IBMHost: Sarah Nelson – Senior Solution Advisory, SAP Finance & SpendHost: Erik Derenne – Director, Strategic Solution Advisory, SAP Finance & SpendHost: Justin Morse – Vice President, Solution Advisory, SAP Americas, Finance & Spend When taking on any major business transformation or technology upgrade in your organization, two major decisions always take center stage. 1)    Where do we begin?2)    Will we go Brownfield (lift-and-shift our existing system) or Greenfield (start fresh with new standards)?Our guest today, Curt Reppart, has been helping companies navigate these questions for years and offers great perspective as an Associate Partner at IBM.  Though it sometimes may make sense to do a Brownfield, lift-and-shift transformation or start completely fresh with a Greenfield implementation, often these options carry significant trade-offs such as carrying forward technical debt and poor processes or create massive disruptions to the business. At IBM, Curt often suggests a third path to his customers and that is the Bluefield Implementation strategy, where customers use a selective approach that drives deliberate decisions about which configurations, processes and data to keep, redesign, or retire and where to adopt a more fit-to-standard approach. Further, Curt makes a compelling case for Procurement being the ideal entry point for this transformation journey as it is often a highly disconnected, fragmented and over-customized area of the business in a space where collaboration extending beyond the four walls of the organization requires a certain level of standardization and conformity to succeed.  This makes procurement the perfect catalyst for being intentional about what to keep and what to simplify.   So, let’s dive in, and don’t forget to like, share, and subscribe. I am your host Erik Derenne, and you’re listening to The Future of Procurement Podcast.  Follow SAP: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sap/Follow SAP Ariba: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ariba/Follow IBM: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ibm/ Follow Curt: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/curtreppart/   Follow Erik: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erik-derenne/ Follow Justin: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinmorse/   Follow Sarah: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/swnelson12/ Please like, share, and subscribe!Send feedback and questions to [email protected]

Business Transformation Leader Tony Gainsford joins us to explain how he used Supplier Collaboration, Process Mining and Automation Tolerances to drive successful procurement transformation at Molex.Guest: Tony Gainsford – Business Transformation Leader, MolexHost: Sarah Nelson – Senior Solution Advisory,SAP Finance & SpendHost: Erik Derenne – Director, Strategic Solution Advisory, SAP Finance & SpendHost: Justin Morse – Vice President, Solution Advisory, SAP Americas, Finance & SpendOftentimes people think of a business transformation or a procurement transformation as simply a technology project. That the best way to transform and improve the way the business runs is to just find newer software, with fancier bells and whistles, and that alone will solve all the issues, improve all the KPIs, and drive value for the organization.And if that still doesn’t deliver the expected ROI, the expected results? What next?Our guest today is Tony Gainsford, Business Transformation Leader at Molex. Tony has spent decades running successful transformation programs at Molex and knows first-hand what it takes to avoid common transformation pitfalls and achieve desired outcomes. In fact, Tony led an effort to digitize collaboration with all their Suppliers across the entire order-to-pay process through the SAP Business Network and strengthened the relationship with his Suppliers in the process.Tony highlighted just how important it is to have a solid vision before beginning a transformation project and the need to be flexible along the way as new information is uncovered. He reflected on the benefits of using process mining and data mining tools to identify the gaps, bottlenecks and workarounds and how changes to the configurations, tolerances, rules and processes can turn issues into competitive advantages. The biggest revelation is that even in this age of AI, automation and digitization, the human relationship is still a vital component of the transformation process.So, let’s dive in, and don’t forget to like, share, and subscribe. I am your host Erik Derenne, and you’re listening to The Future of Procurement Podcast.  Follow SAP: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sap/ FollowSAP Ariba: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ariba/FollowMolex: https://www.linkedin.com/company/molex/ Follow Tony: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tony-gainsford-03764b10/  Follow Erik: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erik-derenne/Follow Justin: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinmorse/ Follow Sarah: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/swnelson12/Please like, share, and subscribe!Send feedback and questions to [email protected]