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Listen to this episode on Apple Podcasts, YouTube, Spotify, and Substack. Transcripts are also available by clicking on the “transcripts” button in the top right corner of this post on the app/web version. You can also access them from the email version by clicking here.In today’s episode, I’m speaking with Jason Fiber, CEO of Virewirx. Jason introduces the company and its background in wireless technology, explaining how its VX60 wireless platform compares to other connectivity options and where it fits into autonomous vehicle operations.We dive into the data demands of AV fleets, from how much information vehicles need to upload to why moving that data efficiently becomes increasingly important as fleets grow. Jason discusses how Virewirx approaches those challenges and how faster data transfers can fit alongside charging and other depot operations to reduce turnaround times and improve vehicle utilization.The conversation also explores the factors that influence depot locations, the partners and operators Virewirx works with, and when high-speed data transfer becomes critical during AV development and deployment. We discuss how faster access to vehicle data could benefit cities through incident and hazard reporting.Finally, we look beyond robotaxis to other industries that could benefit from Virewirx’s technology and discuss what’s next for the company.Chapters* (00:00) Introduction to Jason Fiber* (01:38) Introduction to Virewirx and its background* (03:10) Understanding Virewirx’s business and wireless technology* (04:25) Virewirx’s VX60 platform and how it compares to 5G and other wireless technologies* (06:30) The benefits of Virewirx’s VX60 wireless platform* (07:40) How much data do AVs need to upload?* (09:48) Scaling wireless capacity as AV fleets grow* (11:30) Why data is so critical to AV fleet scaling* (13:50) How faster AV data transfers could help cities with incident and hazard reporting* (15:29) Integrating data transfers with depot operations to reduce turnaround times and improve utilization* (18:00) What factors influence AV depot locations?* (20:37) Virewirx’s typical partners and who benefits most from their tech* (22:18) When does high-speed data transfer become critical for AV development and deployment?* (24:05) Beyond robotaxis: Other applications for Virewirx’s technology* (28:12) Overcoming data bottlenecks in AV fleet expansion* (29:25) What’s next for Virewirx?* (31:00) Conclusion and final thoughtsNotes/Links:* You can find Jason Fiber on LinkedIn.* Virewirx’s website (link).-Harry This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.thedriverlessdigest.com

This week’s edition is brought to you by Terawatt – purpose-built charging for autonomous vehicle fleets.Listen to this episode on Apple Podcasts, YouTube, Spotify, and Substack. Transcripts are also available by clicking on the “transcripts” button in the top right corner of this post on the app/web version. You can also access them from the email version by clicking here.In today’s episode, I’m speaking with Keller Cliffton, Co-Founder and CEO of Zipline. Keller shares how the company got its early start in Rwanda, the challenges of building an autonomous logistics system, and how meeting patients who relied on the service helped keep the team going. We then explore Zipline’s expansion across healthcare, retail, and food delivery, including its work with Walmart, Chipotle, and Cleveland Clinic.Keller explains how Zipline’s aircraft, delivery droids, and charging infrastructure work together, how restaurants join the network, and why safety and quiet operation are central to the experience. We discuss its Uber Eats partnership and goal of scaling to a million deliveries a day, how faster and less expensive delivery could change ordering habits, and how a wider delivery radius could help restaurants reach more customers and rethink their locations.Finally, we look at how drones fit alongside human couriers and other delivery options, Zipline’s U.S. expansion plans, and the manufacturing and operational challenges of scaling. Keller explains how working with the FAA differs from the regulatory landscape for robotaxis and shares his vision for infrastructure that reduces traffic and pollution while giving more space back to people.Chapters* (00:00) Introduction to Keller Cliffton* (02:16) Zipline’s origins and its first deployments* (03:24) What kept Keller going through Zipline’s early challenges* (05:32) Zipline’s current footprint across healthcare, retail, and food delivery* (07:40) How Walmart and restaurant partnerships are driving U.S. growth* (09:50) Balancing delivery volume, margins, and different use cases* (10:39) How the Zipline experience works from ordering to arrival* (13:14) How charging sites serve retailers and restaurants* (15:39) How Zipline’s aircraft and delivery droid work together* (17:34) Addressing noise, safety, and community concerns* (19:59) How restaurants load orders for automated pickup* (21:25) Zipline’s Uber Eats partnership and the goal of a million deliveries a day* (24:42) What matters most: delivery speed, cost, predictability, or safety?* (26:58) How a 10-mile delivery radius expands customer reach* (28:04) How drones fit alongside human couriers and sidewalk robots* (30:42) How drone delivery could reshape restaurant locations and operations* (33:47) Zipline’s expansion plans and what it takes to launch in new cities* (35:50) How FAA regulation shapes Zipline’s nationwide rollout* (38:24) Keller’s vision for the future of delivery and infrastructure* (40:48) Conclusion and final thoughtsDesigning Charging Hubs for Autonomous FleetsWe are excited to partner with Terawatt this week, one of the leading charging infrastructure providers. To learn more about Terawatt’s nationwide real estate portfolio and track record of cutting cost per mile for AV fleet operators, reach out to Peter Cohen at [email protected]/Links:* You can find Keller Cliffton on LinkedIn/X.* Zipline’s website (link).* Zipline and Uber’s partnership, mentioned at the 21:33 timestamp (link).-Harry This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.thedriverlessdigest.com

Listen to this episode on Apple Podcasts, YouTube, Spotify, and Substack. Transcripts are also available by clicking on the “transcripts” button in the top right corner of this post on the app/web version. You can also access them from the email version by clicking here.Join panelists at the Urban Autonomy Summit in Austin as they discuss how autonomy is expanding beyond robotaxis into trucking and group transportation, and what it will take to scale these services safely. This panel featured Armir Harris (CEO, CharterUP), Kaylee Nix (Head of Communications, Bot Auto), Derrick Nueman (Vice President of Investor Relations, PlusAI), and Evan O’Brien (Director of Enterprise Growth, Empiric Earth), and was moderated by Nicole Cobler (Austin Reporter, Axios).The conversation explores where autonomous trucks and shuttles can deliver the most value, from middle-mile freight routes to overnight shifts that are difficult to staff. Panelists discuss how investor expectations are shifting toward deployments and viable business models, how customer demand shapes route selection, and why trucking requires different data and testing than robotaxis. They also examine the role of real-world driving data in preparing for edge cases, how companies measure safety beyond miles driven, and what it takes to address labor concerns and build public trust as autonomous transportation expands.Chapters* (00:00) Introduction* (03:05) Where Autonomous Trucks and Shuttles Deliver the Most Value* (07:58) Filling Hard-to-Staff Routes and Overnight Shifts* (10:41) What Investors Want From AV Companies* (12:40) Using Real-World Data to Prepare for Edge Cases* (14:14) How Trucking and Robotaxi Data Needs Differ* (16:38) Choosing Routes for Autonomous Trucking* (18:12) Building Public Trust and Addressing Labor Concerns* (22:57) Measuring AV Safety Beyond Miles Driven* (26:54) Which Parts of Autonomous Transportation Will Scale Fastest?- Harry This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.thedriverlessdigest.com

Listen to this episode on Apple Podcasts, YouTube, Spotify, and Substack. Transcripts are also available by clicking on the “transcripts” button in the top right corner of this post on the app/web version. You can also access them from the email version by clicking here.Join panelists at the Urban Autonomy Summit in Austin as they discuss the charging infrastructure behind robotaxi fleets, how cities are supporting deployment, and what AV growth means for rideshare drivers. This panel featured Brandon Sellers (VP of Marketing, Gridwise), Ted Silverman (Chief Operating Officer, LPRI), Sloane Perras (Chief Administrative Officer, Voltera), and Rachel Castignoli (Senior Consultant, Transportation and Public Works, City of Austin), and was moderated by Jonah Bliss (Co-Founder, Curbivore & Urban Autonomy Summit).The conversation explores what goes into building an AV charging hub, from securing power and navigating permits to choosing locations that keep vehicles close to rider demand. Panelists discuss Austin’s approach to road safety and neighborhood concerns, how robotaxi competition is affecting rideshare platform fees and driver earnings, and how human drivers are adapting through longer trips, premium services, and peak demand. They also examine jobs in depot operations and infrastructure development, the challenges of converting existing parking facilities into charging hubs, and the need for better education and accessibility as AV services expand.Chapters* (00:00) Introduction* (01:52) Inside an AV Charging Hub* (03:52) Permitting and Power Challenges* (05:28) Choosing Charging Sites Around Demand* (09:35) How Robotaxis Are Changing Rideshare Competition* (11:03) Working With Cities to Expand AV Infrastructure* (13:36) Austin’s Approach to Safety and Community Concerns* (18:30) How Robotaxis Are Affecting Driver Earnings* (20:12) How Human Drivers Can Adapt* (21:57) Job Creation and the Workforce Behind AVs* (24:41) Converting Parking Lots Into Charging Hubs* (26:11) What Needs to Change to Accelerate AV Adoption?- Harry This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.thedriverlessdigest.com

Listen to this episode on Apple Podcasts, YouTube, Spotify, and Substack. Transcripts are also available by clicking on the “transcripts” button in the top right corner of this post on the app/web version. You can also access them from the email version by clicking here.Join panelists at the Urban Autonomy Summit in Austin as they discuss the infrastructure, operations, and partnerships needed to scale autonomous vehicles. This panel featured Yulia Shveyko (Head of Public Affairs, Avride), Ben Seidl (CEO & Co-Founder, Autolane), Nick Allen (Head of AV / Mobility, TaskUs), and Daniel Severin (Head of Global Mobility Insurance, The Ride Platform), and was moderated by Julia Pickar (Transportation & Technology Journalist, NPR / Marketplace).The conversation explores why Texas has become a hub for AV deployment and what it will take to support larger fleets, from charging and depot capacity to remote assistance and rider support. Panelists discuss how operators handle unexpected road conditions, the business opportunities emerging in autonomous delivery and fleet services, and how automation can bring operating costs down. They also examine the regulations shaping expansion, common misconceptions about driverless technology, and what will signal that autonomous vehicles have truly gone mainstream.Chapters* (00:00) Introduction* (01:38) Why Texas Is a Hub for Autonomous Vehicles* (04:13) The Infrastructure Needed to Scale AVs* (06:09) Handling Road Closures and Unexpected Situations* (09:23) Learning From AV Edge Cases* (11:26) Business Opportunities in Autonomous Delivery and Fleet Operations* (15:04) Cutting Costs Through Automation* (16:09) How Regulation Helps or Hinders AV Growth* (21:28) The Biggest Misconceptions About Autonomous Vehicles* (26:01) When Will Autonomous Vehicles Become Mainstream?- Harry This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.thedriverlessdigest.com

Listen to this episode on Apple Podcasts, YouTube, Spotify, and Substack. Transcripts are also available by clicking on the “transcripts” button in the top right corner of this post on the app/web version. You can also access them from the email version by clicking here.In today’s episode, I’m speaking with Ethan McKanna, an autonomous vehicle power user, industry observer, and the creator of Robotaxi Tracker. Ethan returns to the podcast to share what inspired him to build the platform and how he gathers data to track autonomous vehicle deployments.We discuss the metrics Robotaxi Tracker covers, how Tesla’s fleet numbers compare with Waymo’s, and the methods Ethan uses to identify and count vehicles. Ethan also explains some of the common misinterpretations of the data and the steps he takes to help people understand what the numbers actually tell us.We also explore how companies, cities, and the press interact with Robotaxi Tracker, and how the platform could help cities better understand autonomous vehicle activity on their streets. Ethan shares how much time goes into maintaining the project, his thinking around monetization, and what could make the data more accurate.Finally, we discuss potential new features, why utilization is such an anticipated metric, and what Ethan’s data reveals about other operators, including Zoox and Avride.Chapters* (00:00) Introduction to Ethan McKanna* (01:39) What inspired Ethan to build Robotaxi Tracker* (03:29) The main use cases for Robotaxi Tracker and its goal* (04:45) What metrics does Robotaxi Tracker cover?* (07:25) How Robotaxi Tracker focuses on objective data points for AV deployments* (08:50) Overview of the Robotaxi Tracker user interface/experience* (09:40) Tesla’s Robotaxi/Cybercab fleet numbers and how they were gathered* (15:07) Tesla vs. Waymo fleet numbers* (17:37) What is the most popular/cited data from Robotaxi Tracker?* (18:27) What data should we watch out for?* (20:30) What do people get wrong about the AV data on Robotaxi Tracker?* (22:20) Steps Ethan takes to curb misinterpretation of the AV data on Robotaxi Tracker* (23:35) How Ethan uses cameras along with other methods to identify/analyze AV fleet numbers* (24:30) How Ethan interacts with the major AV stakeholders, including companies, cities, and the press* (25:45) How Robotaxi Tracker could help cities understand AV deployments* (27:02) How much time Ethan spends on Robotaxi Tracker* (27:35) Are there any downsides for AV operators to having their data published on Robotaxi Tracker?* (28:29) How Ethan is thinking about the business aspect of Robotaxi Tracker and monetization* (29:35) What could make Robotaxi Tracker more accurate?* (31:34) What new features Ethan might add to Robotaxi Tracker* (33:00) Why utilization could be the most anticipated feature on Robotaxi Tracker* (35:06) What his data reveals about AV operators like Zoox and Avride* (38:53) Conclusion and final thoughtsNotes/Links:* You can find Ethan on LinkedIn and Twitter/X.* Check out Robotaxi Tracker (link).* Ethan’s earlier episode on the podcast (link).-Harry This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.thedriverlessdigest.com

This week’s edition is brought to you by Terawatt – purpose-built charging for autonomous vehicle fleets.Listen to this episode on Apple Podcasts, YouTube, Spotify, and Substack. Transcripts are also available by clicking on the “transcripts” button in the top right corner of this post on the app/web version. You can also access them from the email version by clicking here.In today’s episode, I’m speaking with Nat Beuse, Chief Safety Officer at Aurora. Nat shares his background in vehicle safety across the public and private sectors, the lessons he’s learned along the way, and how those experiences shape his approach to autonomous trucking.We dive into Aurora’s fully driverless operations and the steps the company took to close its safety case. Nat explains the operating conditions its trucks are designed to handle, how Aurora plans for edge cases, and how it tracks uptime, reliability, and other metrics. We also discuss the company’s latest milestones and what changes as its fleet scales.The conversation explores public perception, how autonomous vehicle companies balance competition with collaboration on safety, and Aurora’s approach to sharing knowledge and safety information with the public. Nat also discusses the benefits of being a publicly listed company and the importance of transparency as driverless operations expand.Finally, we look at the regulatory landscape for autonomous trucking and the hurdles to establishing a federal framework.Chapters* (00:00) Introduction to Nat Beuse* (02:07) Nat’s background in vehicle safety, across the public and private sectors* (05:57) Nat’s safety philosophy and what he’s learned from working on vehicle safety over the years* (09:55) Aurora’s operations and the safety case for its driverless operations* (12:50) Facts and figures from Aurora’s fully driverless operations* (15:55) The steps Aurora took to close its safety case* (19:20) Aurora’s operational design domain (ODD) and the various use cases for its customers* (22:12) The operational limits of Aurora’s driverless trucks and how they plan for edge cases* (24:05) How Aurora tracks uptime, reliability, and other metrics* (25:50) Aurora’s latest milestones and what changes as its fleet scales* (28:00) The importance of public perception and how it changes as the business scales* (30:15) How AV companies collaborate on safety and the role of competition in the space* (33:27) How Aurora contributes to knowledge sharing across the AV industry* (34:55) The benefits of being publicly listed and sharing Aurora’s safety case with the public* (37:30) The current regulatory landscape for autonomous trucking* (41:09) The hurdles to establishing a federal regulatory framework for autonomous trucking* (43:19) Conclusion and final thoughtsDesigning Charging Hubs for Autonomous FleetsWe are excited to partner with Terawatt this week, one of the leading charging infrastructure providers. To learn more about Terawatt’s nationwide real estate portfolio and track record of cutting cost per mile for AV fleet operators, reach out to Peter Cohen at [email protected]/Links:* You can find Nat Beuse on LinkedIn.* Aurora’s website (link).* Dave Ferguson of Nuro’s interview with Aurora CEO Chris Urmson, mentioned at the 05:43 timestamp (link).* Aurora’s Safety Case Framework, mentioned at the 10:41 timestamp (link).* The independent assessment of Aurora’s safety case, mentioned at the 18:00 timestamp (link).* Aurora’s voluntary safety self-assessment, mentioned at the 36:24 timestamp (link).* Feel free to leave us a review on our Apple Podcasts page, then send us a screenshot in an email reply to score some TDD swag!-Harry This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.thedriverlessdigest.com

Listen to this episode on Apple Podcasts, YouTube, Spotify, and Substack. Transcripts are also available by clicking on the “transcripts” button in the top right corner of this post on the app/web version. You can also access them from the email version by clicking here.In today’s episode, I’m speaking with Armir Harris, founder and CEO of CharterUP. Armir breaks down the company’s group transportation business, the customers it serves, and why it has built its platform without owning any buses. Armir will also be speaking at our upcoming Austin Urban Autonomy Summit on October 14th, on the panel “From Long Haul to Last Mile: AVs Take on New Form Factors.” Apply to attend here so you don’t miss out!We explore how CharterUP is preparing for autonomy, including its partnership with HOLON and plans to bring autonomous shuttles into its network. Armir shares where he sees the biggest opportunities for autonomy to impact the business, the limitations of automating mass transit, and what autonomous group transportation could offer customers.We also discuss how autonomous shuttles could fit into the broader transportation network alongside robotaxis and human-driven vehicles. The conversation covers the potential safety benefits of autonomous buses, the role people will continue to play in deploying and operating these services, and how CharterUP is approaching that transition.Finally, Armir discusses CharterUP’s first autonomous vehicle deployment, future deployment timelines, and what it will take for autonomous shuttles to become a mainstream transportation option in the coming years.Chapters* (00:00) Introduction to Armir Harris* (01:08) What is CharterUP and what does it do?* (03:01) CharterUP’s footprint, offerings, and customers* (05:07) Why CharterUP doesn’t own any buses and the advantages of its business model* (06:00) Armir’s thoughts on the current autonomy landscape and how it could impact CharterUP’s business* (08:18) How CharterUP’s business is evolving to embrace autonomy* (09:40) Where Armir sees the biggest impact of autonomy on CharterUP’s business* (11:02) The limitations of automating mass transit* (12:30) CharterUP’s partnership with HOLON and their plans to advance autonomous group transport* (15:43) Who are the leaders in the autonomous group transportation space?* (17:28) What is CharterUP’s most compelling value proposition for its customers?* (19:38) Would autonomous buses be safer than human driven ones?* (20:25) The role of humans in deploying autonomous group transportation and how CharterUP is looking at the transition* (23:30) Autonomous group transportation vs. robotaxis* (24:20) How autonomous shuttles fit into the transportation network alongside robotaxis and human-driven vehicles* (25:19) CharterUP’s first AV deployment and future deployment timelines* (26:04) Armir’s outlook for autonomous shuttles and what it’ll take for them to go mainstream in the coming years* (27:50) Conclusion and final thoughtsNotes/Links:* You can find Armir Harris on LinkedIn/X.* CharterUP’s website (link).* The CharterUP-HOLON partnership mentioned at the 12:30 timestamp (link).* You can find some of our previous coverage on shared autonomous transport:* The Real Impact of Autonomy Will Come From Buses (link).* Redefining Travel Time with PIX Moving’s Autonomous Shuttles (link).-Harry This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.thedriverlessdigest.com

Listen to this episode on Apple Podcasts, YouTube, Spotify, and Substack. Transcripts are also available by clicking on the “transcripts” button in the top right corner of this post on the app/web version. You can also access them from the email version by clicking here.In today’s episode, The Driverless Digest Editor Ben Hubbard speaks with Augustin Friedel, an expert in software-defined vehicles (SDV) and AI-enabled mobility. Augustin shares his background in the industry and examines Europe’s autonomous vehicle landscape, including how it compares with the rest of the world and what it will take to move from pilots to commercial deployments.They take a closer look at the Uber-Verne-Pony.ai pilot in Zagreb, Uber’s role in accelerating autonomous vehicle deployment, and Bolt’s position in the European robotaxi market. Augustin also discusses whether Europe’s autonomous vehicle demonstrations can become scalable businesses and the concerns surrounding partnerships with Chinese developers.Finally, they explore the infrastructure needed to support robotaxi fleets, including the challenges of finding suitable sites in cities like London. They discuss where the real value lies in the robotaxi business, from technology and fleet operations to customer demand, before closing with Augustin’s outlook for Europe’s progress over the next year.Chapters* (00:00) Introduction to Augustin Friedel* (01:32) Augustin’s background in the mobility/autonomy space* (04:51) The autonomy landscape in Europe and how it compares to the rest of the world* (06:46) The Uber-Verne-Pony.ai AV pilot in Zagreb and the state of AV pilots/deployments in Europe* (09:51) What’s needed to scale AV deployments in Europe* (11:20) Can European AV demos become scalable businesses?* (14:02) Uber’s role in accelerating AV deployment in Europe* (16:00) Bolt’s position in the European robotaxi landscape* (17:50) Is Europe at risk of becoming a market for boring AV technology?* (20:41) Are there concerns about partnering with Chinese AV companies?* (21:59) The state of the European AV infrastructure landscape and how it could evolve* (26:40) Realities and challenges of siting AV infrastructure in European cities like London* (30:54) Where the real value lies in the robotaxi business: fleet operations, demand, tech, etc.* (35:00) What progress can Europe make over the next year?* (36:38) Conclusions and final thoughtsNotes/Links:* You can find Augustin on Linkedin.* Check out our previous guest podcast with Augustin and Daniel (link). This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.thedriverlessdigest.com

Listen to this episode on Apple Podcasts, YouTube, Spotify, and Substack. Transcripts are also available by clicking on the “transcripts” button in the top right corner of this post on the app/web version. You can also access them from the email version by clicking here.In today’s episode, I’m speaking with Raquel Urtasun, Founder and CEO of Waabi. Raquel shares how she got into the self-driving field, why she left Uber to build Waabi, and what she believes sets the company apart. We also discuss Waabi’s current operations and footprint, its philosophy, and the three pillars Raquel sees as essential to commercial scale.Raquel explains how much human supervision Waabi’s trucks require today and the final milestone before the company can operate without a driver. We dig into the metrics Waabi uses to measure progress, its hardware approach, and its partnership with Volvo Autonomous Solutions. She also discusses Waabi’s other truck manufacturer partnerships and how quickly the Waabi Driver can transfer between vehicle platforms.The conversation then turns to how Waabi tests its claims about zero-shot transfer across truck platforms and why Raquel chose trucking as the company’s starting point. We compare trucking with other autonomous vehicle markets and discuss Waabi’s fundraising and its partnership with Uber to deploy robotaxis. Finally, Raquel shares her perspective on what it will take to bring autonomy to more vehicles at scale.Chapters* (00:00) Introduction to Raquel Urtasun* (01:50) Raquel’s background and how she got into the self-driving field* (04:35) Why Raquel Urtasun left Uber to build Waabi* (07:20) How Waabi stands out from its competitors* (09:20) Waabi’s current operations, footprint, and philosophy* (11:30) Waabi’s three pillars for commercial scalability* (16:07) What level of human supervision is involved in Waabi’s current product?* (16:30) Waabi’s final milestone before full driverless operations* (20:30) What drives Waabi’s scalability, and which KPIs does it track?* (22:40) Waabi’s hardware and partnership with Volvo Autonomous Solutions* (24:45) Waabi’s other OEM partnerships* (25:35) How quickly the Waabi Driver transfers between vehicle platforms* (28:30) How Waabi scientifically tests zero-shot transfer across OEM truck platforms* (30:45) How Raquel ranks different autonomy verticals and why Waabi started with trucking* (36:50) Waabi’s fundraising and their partnership with Uber to deploy robotaxis* (40:45) Conclusion and final thoughtsNotes/Links:* You can find Raquel Urtasun on LinkedIn/X.* Waabi’s partnership with Volvo Autonomous Solutions, mentioned at the 22:40 timestamp (link).* Waabi’s announcement of the Waabi Driver’s zero-shot transfer between truck platforms, mentioned at the 25:18 timestamp (link).* Waabi’s latest fundraising and partnership with Uber, mentioned at the 36:48 timestamp (link).* Waabi’s website (link).-Harry This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.thedriverlessdigest.com