Mick Green and Rachel Ward on the power of getting started

The United Nations General Assembly recently voted 2026 as the International Year of the Rangelands and Pastoralists. An incredible 81 percent of Australia is considered rangelands, and despite the sometimes challenging conditions, the opportunities for landscape repair through agriculture are immense. In this episode, we hear from three farmers who all grew up in the semi-arid rangelands with a deep connection to the environment and a desire to heal the land. Jody Brown is a fourth generation farmer from Longreach in central west Queensland. The family farm Latrobe station is certified organic running cattle, goats, and a couple of horses on around 45,000 acres.  Alejandro Carillo owns Las Damas ranch in Chihuahua Mexico, and has become well known around the world for using livestock to restore soils and landscapes in semi-arid environments. And Glenn Landsberg owns a small farm in Southwest Queensland, and works as a natural resource management consultant with a focus on landscape rehydration. Thank you to all of our guests for sharing their stories and wisdom. You can follow Jody Brown on linkedin.com/in/jody-brown-93648932/ and find out more about Latrobe Station on facebook.com/people/Latrobe-Station/100063555377640/ Alejandro Carillo can be found online on instagram.com/lasdamascattleranch/ and linkedin.com/in/alejandro-carrillo-b3a7a7/ and you can read more about Las Damas ranch desertgrasslands.com Glenn Landsberg can be found on linkedin.com/in/glenn-landsberg-758a02198/ Soils for Life CEO Eli Court recently attended the Regenerative Rangelands Conference at Jody’s station, and wrote about the experience and what he learned from Alejandro and the other speakers soilsforlife.org.au/inspiration-from-the-chihuahuan-desert/ A film has also been released about this conference and rangelands regeneration, which can be viewed youtube.com/watch?v=G5IuR4YAIJY In the episode, Glenn mentions maps of what used to be the ‘native grain belt’. A representation of this map can be found on page 3 of https://www.sydney.edu.au/content/dam/corporate/documents/faculty-of-science/research/potential-native-grass-production.pdf from the University of Sydney. Episode produced by growloveproject.com

In this episode we talk with Joel Williams about how growers can start weaning off costly chemical inputs, rules of thumb for seed treatments and foliar sprays, why he likes tweaks and incremental improvements, the growing scientific evidence behind regenerative farming practices and more! Joel Williams is an independent plant and soil health educator based in Canada, working on soil management, plant nutrition and integrated approaches of sustainable food production. Joel is interested in designing farming systems that focus on managing soil biology along with crop and soil nutrition to optimise plant immunity and soil function.  At Soils for Life we’ve recently launched a major project focused on cropping systems, and we thought Joel would be the perfect person to talk about why and how growers are transitioning to a more regenerative, resilient approach to cropping. Find out more about the project via soilsforlife.org.au/cropping-resilience/. If you have any feedback or questions about this podcast, or suggestions of topics or people you’d like us to include in future episodes, please reach out on social media or via [email protected].

We’ve all heard the saying “You are what you eat”. But, as we'll hear in this episode, it really should go “You are what you eat, and the soil it grows in.” Over half of our adult population are considered to be malnourished, and this is in part due to a decline in the nutrient density of our food. As the world's population grows and remaining arable land decreases, growing healthier, nutrient dense food might just be a part of the answer to improving human health outcomes. In this episode we talk with two farmers and two researchers about the question: ‘Is soil the key to better human health?’.  What we find is a complex tangle of connections between soil, plants, animals, and humans that science is only just beginning to understand.  Thank to our wonderful guests Matthew Evans - Farmer, chef and food writer and the author of ‘Soil: The incredible story of what keeps the earth, and us, healthy” Courtney Young - Co-owner at Woodstock Flour and project manager at Soils for Life Robyn Alders - Honorary professor with the Development Policy Centre at the Australian National University. Dr Stephan van Vliet - Assistant professor of nutrition at the Center for Human Nutrition Studies at Utah State University He holds a PhD in Kinesiology and Community Health. Dr. van Vliet also holds a Masters in Nutrition Science. Additional research links A database of chemical compounds found in foods by the Canadian Institutes of Health Research Matthew Evans book 'Soil: The incredible story of what keeps the earth, and us, healthy.' Dr Stephan van Vliet's presentation on their research Hosted by Susannah Kable from the @GrowLoveProject and James Diack from Soils for Life. This Podcast has been produced by Grow Love Project in collaboration with @SoilsforLife.  For more episodes of our podcast, head to soilsforlife.org.au/podcast

If you’re a long-time listener to this podcast, you’ll be used to our in-depth episodes co-hosted by Grow Love Project’s Susie Kable and Soils for Life’s James Diack. We’re continuing to make these episodes, but from time-to-time we’ll be bringing you shorter interviews with farmers doing interesting things to regenerate soils and landscapes. This is the first of these interviews, with actress-turned-farmer Rachel Ward and farm manager Mick Green. Mick and Rachel jointly manage a farm in the Nambucca Valley on the NSW mid-north coast. As newbies to regenerative farming, they decided to make the most of Rachel’s lifetime of experience with film making to produce a documentary about their journey. That documentary - called Rachel’s Farm - is out now on limited release. This is a broad ranging conversation about getting started in a new approach to farming, working as a team, learning from friends and neighbours, and dealing with pests and extreme weather. Most of all, I enjoyed hearing about Mick and Rachel’s incredibly humble and curious mindset - always questioning, never afraid to admit to a mistake and learn from it. I hope you enjoy listening to this conversation. And just a note, you’ll hear some references to ‘Normy’ in this podcast - Normy worked with Mick and Rachel during the early days of their journey, and was the ideas man and inspiration behind many of their shifts. If you have any feedback or questions about this podcast, or suggestions of topics or people you’d like us to include in future episodes, please reach out on social media or via [email protected]. Thank you to Rachel Ward and Mick Green for sharing their story and their wisdom. Hosted by Eli Court from Soils for Life. This podcast has been produced by Soils for Life, and edited by Michelle Watts. #regenerativeagriculture #biodiversity #soilsforlife #podcast #farmingpodcast #samvincent

Building cropping resilience through diversity In this episode we hear from croppers who are growing multispecies crops as a way of building soil health and improving diversity. We discover why and how these farmers are moving from growing monocultures to establishing polycultures. Find out more about how croppers around Australia are regenerating soil and landscape health by reading Soils for Life’s new cropping case studies: soilsforlife.org.au/case-studies Thank you to all our guests: Rob and Judi Hetherington - Walma Martin Williams - Nyngan Seed Graders Grant Simms - Down Under Covers Hosted by Susannah Kable from the Grow Love Project and James Diack from Soils for Life This Podcast has been produced by Grow Love Project in collaboration with Soils for Life. This project is supported through funding from the Australian Government’s Smart Farms Program.

The industrialisation of agriculture has created large paddocks of monoculture crops and increased the chemical burden on farmers and their environments. Global herbicide use has continued to increase as farmers have shifted to no till practices and adopted herbicide-tolerant crop cultivars over the last 30 years. One result of this is that the list of herbicide resistant #weeds is growing. Some farmers spend huge amounts of money on herbicide and scarce time removing weeds; Meanwhile, exactly how much damage is being done to native plant species and soils is not yet fully known. Either way, the current model is not sustainable In this episode we are exploring a paradigm shift to an ecological systems approach to weeds with Soils for Life agroecologist Sarah Fea. We visit four farmers to understand their changing relationship to plants. Including a grazier, seed producer, a farmer who has enlisted the help of goats and another who has developed no kill cropping. We take a fresh look at weeds and how we can benefit from seeing them through a different lens. We hear how specific weeds germinate to heal damaged soils, showing us what the soil needs and how we can help them heal it. James Diack from Soils for Life visits grazier Martin Royds at his farm Jillamatong in Braidwood. They sit down to have a yarn over Martin's fascinating story of change and repair. James also talks to farmer and soil microbiologist Bruce Davidson, who has a great story about how he approaches Blackberries and African Lovegrass. And Agroecologist Sarah Fea talks to seed producer Russel Young who talks about the challenges he’s facing as someone who is earlier on in his journey of transition to a more biological approach to farming. She also visits Bruce Maynard to hear more about his approach to weeds. Bruce is a farmer and educator who has developed methods such as No Kill Cropping and Self-Herding. Thanks to all the our guests Martin Royds - Jillamatong Bruce Maynard - Willydah  https://soilsforlife.org.au/willydah/ Bruce Davidson - Soil Smith  https://www.soilsmith.ag/about/ Russell Young - Young Seeds Hosted by Susannah Kable from Grow Love Project and James Diack and Sarah Fea from Soils for Life This Podcast has been produced by Grow Love Project in collaboration with Soils for Life. This project is supported Australian Government’s Smart Farms Program.

Agricultural scientific research is really good at honing in on specific issues in the sector to investigate targeted solutions. But nature doesn’t always work that way. A fundamental principle of regenerative agriculture is to observe landscapes as a whole system and to build resilience by embracing ecological complexity. The importance of farmer and researcher collaboration is highlighted in this episode with the need for research models and questions to meet with the complexity of farming with a whole systems and holistic approach. In this episode we ask how the experience of regenerative farmers can contribute to research and build a strong evidence base for regenerating agricultural soils and landscapes. We will hear from two farmers that have transitioned to regenerative farming practices and two researchers working in the space. Hosted by Susannah Kable, Grow Love Project and James Diack, Soils for Life Thank you to all our guests: David Marsh: https://soilsforlife.org.au/david-marsh-the-regenerative-farmer Colin Seis: https://soilsforlife.org.au/winona-pasture-cropping-the-way-to-health/ Kirsty Yates: https://soilsforlife.org.au/about-soils-for-life/our-people/ Liz Clarke: Senior Executive Designer and Consultant https://www.thinkplace.com.au/ The book David Marsh refers to is Andre Voisin the French farmer scientist who wrote Grass Productivity

Australian agriculture currently has a labour shortage of over 100,000 people. It’s not an easy gig for someone to start from scratch on a farm and many younger generation farmers are moving from farms to urban areas. We rely on farmers to sustain our way of life as they produce our food and fibre. It’s critical that young and new farmers are encouraged and supported to supply for our needs in a way that regenerates soils and landscapes. Some major barriers and challenges that young and new farmers are faced with include access to land and capital, climate change issues and access to learning, particularly learning about regenerative practices. In this episode, learn from a researcher, writer and farmer who has walked the walk, and started her own regenerative farming practice. Be inspired by an additional six young and new farmers who embraced a regenerative mindset to overcome these challenges. Thank you to all our guests: Tanya Massy  https://sustainabletable.org.au/advisors/ Josh Gilbert https://www.joshuagilbert.co/ Harriet Finlayson https://soilsforlife.org.au/womens-day-regenerative-agriculture-chicken-egg-farmer/ Adam Lilleyman https://soilsforlife.org.au/chickens-for-a-change/ Trish Smith https://www.youngfarmersconnect.com/ Luke Winder https://www.tathraplacefreerange.com/ Thank you to https://www.farmerincubator.org/regenerationreport for producing the much needed report: Regeneration which you can download from the website. And thank you for the audio featured in this episode from the launch of the report. Hosted by Susannah Kable, Grow Love Project and James Diack, Soils for Life

The 8 families farmer group formed more than a decade ago after a holistic management course. Since then, the group has evolved and experienced transitions in all the businesses and families. In this episode we explore environmental markets through the lens of two members of the 8 Families group. The 8 families explain how their motivation to build natural capital was not primarily to gain market outcomes, but rather a desire to fulfill their Holistic Context. This includes building the productivity and profitability of their farming systems, as well as an intrinsic desire to rebuild the function and health of their landscapes in their roles as soil and landscape stewards. In this episode we’ll hear from some of the group about how and why they came together, their consideration of environmental markets and the benefits of working through those together. Thank you to all our guests: Michael Gooden and Rebecca Gorman - 8 families Soils for Life Case Study:  https://soilsforlife.org.au/8-families-land-stewarship/ Kim Deans -  https://www.reinventingagriculture.com.au Rowan Foley - https://www.abcfoundation.org.au Ian Loane - https://www.carbonlink.com.au/ Andrew Ward - https://regenfarmersmutual.com/ Dieuwer Reynders - https://www.bct.nsw.gov.au/ Hosted by Susannah Kable, Grow Love Project and James Diack, Soils for Life

Farmer, forester or conservationist. It might seem like you need to choose one but more and more landholders are challenging this. With the right management, trees on farms can provide better farm productivity and forest products and increase biodiversity. But in many ways forests are still treated as either conservation reserves or plantations, making it difficult for farmers to take this path. In less than 100 years as a nation we have gone from removing trees to wanting to plant them back. Tree planting programs are not achieving the scale of restoration required to repair Australia's landscapes. We need to rethink how we support landholders to invest in trees. In this episode we hear from two farm foresters who have approached farming trees very differently, as well as a scientist and a forest policy professor. They discuss why more farmers have not adopted forestry, how trees can be managed for multiple outcomes and what mindset and policy shifts are required to move to a whole-of-landscape approach.  Thank you to our guests:  Farm forester and grazier - James Henderson https://soilsforlife.org.au/colodan/ Forest scientist and grazier - Rowan Reid https://www.agroforestry.net.au/ Professor Peter Kanowski - https://researchers.anu.edu.au/researchers/kanowski-pj Associate Professor Cris Brack - https://www.linkedin.com/in/cris-brack-233a117a/ Your hosts Eli Court @soilsforlife and Susannah Kable @growloveproject produced by Edgars Greste