Interstates & Heartbreak

Welcome to Interstates & HeartDRAKE, where I get IN MY FEELINGS about my journey from 0 TO 100 episodes. Things go from OVO to AMA as I answer listener-submitted questions about : -- How I cope when I'M UPSET-- TIMELINES as they relate to exclusivity-- What I would do if I had no MORE LIFE to live after 5 months-- BACK TO BACK questions about the biggest lessons I learned from dating my first ex and producing the podcast…and the Johnny Depp v. Amber Heard trial, but I ran out of Drake lyrics. Jk, here's one more - listen to the end if you want to SEE WHAT'S 'BOUT TO HAPPEN NEXT for Interstates & Heartbreak, OKAY? Please don't un-follow me because of the Drake puns : @interstatesandheartbreak For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : [email protected] For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

The heartbreak podcast collab you didn’t know you needed- Interstates & Heartbreak welcomes Thank You Heartbreak host Chelsea Leigh Trescott to discuss reclaiming your breakup experience to “break upward.” She discusses her evolution from serial monogamist to intentionally single, and how her standards have raised along the journey. We discuss the nuances of heartbreak, like breaking your OWN heart by staying in a relationship that doesn’t serve you, or the often ignored heartbreak of being the one to end a relationship. TRIGGER WARNING: Chelsea reflects on some heavier topics like a suicidal ex (16:27) and dating while struggling with disordered eating (12:05, 22:50, 1:04:40). For the woman behind the sultry voice : @thankyouheartbreak For help transitioning from breakup to glow up : [email protected] To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : [email protected] For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

Harrison Forman and Brandon Berman present a dating experience with all the intrigue of Love is Blind, but without the editing or gold chalices - UpDating. They recount the journey that inspired the live blindfolded reality dating show as it exists today, and the wildest on-stage connections and rejections to-date. We wrap with insights into our own dating lives, including their experience with clout chasers, their hypothesis on my type, Brandon's future UpDating proposal, and Harrison's recent date with a former Interstates & Heartbreak guest. For DM slides (platonic or otherwise) : @htforman For platonic DM slides ONLY : @bermmy16 For casting DM slides : @updatingshow (or apply at updatingshow.com) To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : [email protected] For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

Interstates & Heartbreak gets personal today, as I bring my mom back for an encore interview to answer listener-submitted questions! Hear our unfiltered discussion about her thoughts on dating apps, her ideal man, which of my exes was the best, and more. To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : [email protected] For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

Stevie Bowen revisits the early 20's dating stories that inspired her modern Carrie Bradshaw moment - complete with her own version of Mr. Big. She dishes on the men behind the monikers in her memoir, The City of Dating…the one who (unknowingly) took her virginity, the one who fulfilled her sk8tr boi fantasy, the one who viewed protein powder as a food group…and the Charlottes, Mirandas, and Samanthas who were there to gossip with her over brunch the morning after. For content to help you commiserate over your dating experience : @thecityofdating For dating confessions that will help you feel better about your own love life : thecityofdating.com To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : [email protected] For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

Gigi Robinson provides visibility to a typically invisible condition - Ehlers-Danlos syndrome - and recounts the 10+ year journey post-diagnosis that ultimately led her to build a platform dedicated to awareness around chronic illness. She drags the men who've had (FAR) less than ideal responses to her condition in the past, from bouncing mid-makeout, to an attempted religious conversion. She also shares the secrets around confidence and body image that ultimately led her to a Sports Illustrated swim shoot. To slide into Gigi's DMs about something OTHER than her Sports Illustrated photos: @itsgigirobinson For all of the ways you can call her, beep her, if you wanna reach her : gigirobinson.com To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : [email protected] For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

What happens in Vegas…gets recapped on this week's solo podcast episode as I share a story about a married man who embodies the "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas" attitude. I divulge how a night out on a chill mother-daughter Vegas trip raised broader questions around infidelity, the politics of free drinks, and rejection etiquette. To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : [email protected] For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

Jenn and Julien from Ex Appeal podcast address an age old question - can straight men and women TRULY be friends? They share how their relationship evolved from hook up buddies to friends and podcast cohosts, and tackle questions like whether friendship can co-exist with sexual attraction, how much detail your partner needs to know about your past hookups, and whether accountants really need their own podcasts. For more dating takes from your new favorite exes : @exappealpodcast To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : [email protected] For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

This week Ryan Black pulls back the curtain on the motives of pick up artists - why they neg, casual sex (and why it's NOT a flex in this case), and their apparent nightclub obsession. He opens up about his own dating journey from prepubescence to present day and how it led him into the PUA community, and the true confidence and self-acceptance he's found since divorcing the game. TRIGGER WARNING at 1:02:20 (gun violence & suicide mention) To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : [email protected] For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope

Jon Birger joins me on this week's episode to discuss shooting your shot - and I'm not talking about March Madness. We discuss his latest book, Make Your Move: The New Science of Dating, to break down what women stand to gain from asking men out. We analyze the sexist "science" that informs traditional dating gender roles, and the evolution into modern philosophies of "If he wanted to, he would." Jon also critiques my own feeble attempts at shooting my shot in years prior, and explains how meeting on Hinge impacts the likelihood of long term success with my current boyfriend. To order Make Your Move or invite Jon to your book club : jonbirger.com For more of Jon's musings on modern dating dynamics : @jon_birger1 To make things Instagram official : @interstatesandheartbreak For dating commentary from my inner Carrie : interstatesandheartbreak.com For any questions, business inquiries, or love letters : [email protected] For a glimpse into my life when I’m not talking about dating : @lesliegnope