Bitcoin Won't Be Money Until 2080 | Cory Klippsten | BIS #219

Cory Klippsten joins the Bitcoin Infinity Show to talk about Swan's Fifty Days for Freedom campaign, the parallels he draws between the American founders' fight for political independence and this generation's fight for monetary independence, and why he thinks Bitcoin adoption follows a seventy to eighty year technological revolution curve rather than a sudden dollar collapse. He and Knut get into KYC, honeypots and self-custody, the recent wave of VPN bans and age verification laws, and why chain analysis firms may be selling a certainty they cannot actually deliver. They also cover the three functions of money and whether store of value and medium of exchange were ever really separate, the case for ten million Bitcoiners as an intransigent minority, and why Cory thinks the dollar's network effect is getting stronger even as Bitcoin remains the fastest horse in the race. Connect with Nick: https://x.com/nickmalster Connect with Us: https://www.bitcoininfinityshow.com/ https://bitcoininfinitystore.com https://primal.net/infinity https://primal.net/knut https://primal.net/luke https://twitter.com/BtcInfinityShow https://twitter.com/knutsvanholm https://twitter.com/lukedewolf Thanks to our sponsors - check out their websites for info: Invity: https://www.invity.io/ - Use Code INFINITY! Bull Bitcoin: https://app.bullbitcoin.com/registration/infinity BitBox: https://bitbox.swiss/infinity - Use Code INFINITY for 5% off! Bitcoin Adviser: https://content.thebitcoinadviser.com/freedom The Bitcoin Infinity Show is a Bitcoin podcast hosted by Knut Svanholm.

Nick Malster joins the Bitcoin Infinity Show to talk about building Fountain, the Bitcoin podcast app where listeners send sats over Lightning and creators publish to open RSS feeds instead of closed platforms. He explains why Fountain has wound down its listen to earn rewards, how AI generated podcast clones are flooding the apps and what the Podcast Index is doing about it, and where value for value monetization goes from here. Knut and Nick also get into copyright in the age of AI, an honest assessment of Nostr adoption, and why the old record deal model never worked for artists. Connect with Nick: https://x.com/nickmalster Connect with Us: https://www.bitcoininfinityshow.com/ https://bitcoininfinitystore.com https://primal.net/infinity https://primal.net/knut https://primal.net/luke https://twitter.com/BtcInfinityShow https://twitter.com/knutsvanholm https://twitter.com/lukedewolf Thanks to our sponsors - check out their websites for info: Bull Bitcoin: https://app.bullbitcoin.com/registration/infinity BitBox: https://bitbox.swiss/infinity - Use Code INFINITY for 5% off! Bitcoin Adviser: https://content.thebitcoinadviser.com/freedom The Bitcoin Infinity Show is a Bitcoin podcast hosted by Knut Svanholm and produced by Luke de Wolf. bitcoin #freedom #podcast #philosophy #sovereignty

Thomas Jeegers joins the Bitcoin Infinity Show to talk about MiCA, self-custody, and why Europe keeps regulating itself into a corner. He explains how the block size war proved Bitcoin was genuinely decentralized, why mining pool concentration worries him less than it worries most Bitcoiners, and how compliance costs land on the customer without preventing any actual fraud. We also get into deflation, the inflation assumption that every economics degree quietly takes for granted, and why Bitcoin adoption in Europe still runs into a wall of suspicion. Connect with Thomas: https://x.com/ThomasJeegers Connect with Us: https://www.bitcoininfinityshow.com/ https://bitcoininfinitystore.com https://primal.net/infinity https://primal.net/knut https://primal.net/luke https://twitter.com/BtcInfinityShow https://twitter.com/knutsvanholm https://twitter.com/lukedewolf Thanks to our sponsors - check out their websites for info: Bull Bitcoin: https://app.bullbitcoin.com/registration/infinity BitBox: https://bitbox.swiss/infinity - Use Code INFINITY for 5% off! Bitcoin Adviser: https://content.thebitcoinadviser.com/freedom

Scott Dedels joins the Bitcoin Infinity Show to talk about his new book The Age of Time and why the mechanical clock, not the printing press, may be the deepest centralization in modern life. Recorded spontaneously at the Bitcoin Ireland Conference in Dublin, the conversation runs from 1657 and the invention of standardized minutes through time preference, the difficulty adjustment, and Bitcoin as a civilizational clock that bonds value and time into a single expression. Scott and Knut also get into consciousness as a consensus mechanism, the half second delay between reality and perception, why beauty is a symptom of a thriving civilization, and what long term thinking looks like under a Bitcoin standard. Connect with Scott: https://x.com/LanternBitcoin Connect with Us: https://www.bitcoininfinityshow.com/ https://bitcoininfinitystore.com https://primal.net/infinity https://primal.net/knut https://primal.net/luke https://twitter.com/BtcInfinityShow https://twitter.com/knutsvanholm https://twitter.com/lukedewolf Thanks to our sponsors - check out their websites for info: Bull Bitcoin: https://app.bullbitcoin.com/registration/infinity BitBox: https://bitbox.swiss/infinity - Use Code INFINITY for 5% off! Bitcoin Adviser: https://content.thebitcoinadviser.com/freedom The Bitcoin Infinity Show is a Bitcoin podcast hosted by Knut Svanholm and produced by Luke de Wolf.

Samson Mow joins the Bitcoin Infinity Show to talk about BIP-110, the mandatory signalling window, and why he thinks a user activated soft fork without broad consensus is a risk to Bitcoin rather than a fix for spam. Knut and Samson dig into the block size wars, how BIP-148 and BIP-91 actually activated SegWit, what miners and mining pools are likely to do when signalling becomes mandatory, and whether a small minority chain is the realistic outcome. They also get into node diversity and client funding through ProductionReady, guilt by association in the Bitcoin community, and Samson's view that Bitcoin's monetary properties are emergent from the software rather than enforced by it. Connect with Samson: https://x.com/excellion Connect with Us: https://www.bitcoininfinityshow.com/ https://bitcoininfinitystore.com https://primal.net/infinity https://primal.net/knut https://primal.net/luke https://twitter.com/BtcInfinityShow https://twitter.com/knutsvanholm https://twitter.com/lukedewolf Thanks to our sponsors - check out their websites for info: Bull Bitcoin: https://app.bullbitcoin.com/registration/infinity BitBox: https://bitbox.swiss/infinity - Use Code INFINITY for 5% off! Bitcoin Adviser: https://content.thebitcoinadviser.com/freedom The Bitcoin Infinity Show is a Bitcoin podcast hosted by Knut Svanholm and produced by Luke de Wolf.

Kent Halliburton joins the Bitcoin Infinity Show to talk about why he thinks producing your own Bitcoin beats buying it on an exchange, and how mining as a service fits into that picture. He and Knut get into BIP-110 and Kent's position as a proud fence sitter, the growing distrust of Bitcoin Core, and the news that a group of large financial firms has pledged funding toward Bitcoin network security. They also cover Bitcoin mining economics, self-custody, hash rate signaling through Ocean, ossification, and what it would take to build a thousand year institution around the separation of money and state. Connect with Kent: https://x.com/khalliburton Connect with Us: https://www.bitcoininfinityshow.com/ https://bitcoininfinitystore.com https://primal.net/infinity https://primal.net/knut https://primal.net/luke https://twitter.com/BtcInfinityShow https://twitter.com/knutsvanholm https://twitter.com/lukedewolf Thanks to our sponsors - check out their websites for info: Bull Bitcoin: https://app.bullbitcoin.com/registration/infinity BitBox: https://bitbox.swiss/infinity - Use Code INFINITY for 5% off! Bitcoin Adviser: https://content.thebitcoinadviser.com/freedom The Bitcoin Infinity Show is a Bitcoin podcast hosted by Knut Svanholm and produced by Luke de Wolf.

Jeff Booth joins the Bitcoin Infinity Show to talk about user activated soft forks, why economic nodes rather than miners decide what Bitcoin is, and why he expects these consensus battles to keep repeating for decades. He argues that the block reward alone is enough to secure Bitcoin all the way to 2140, that the free market already resolves mining centralization by punishing miners stuck with high cost energy, and that most Bitcoiners still hand their time and spending to the fiat system while lecturing everyone else. Jeff also explains ORANGE JUICE, the permanent capital company he and his ego death capital partners launched to acquire cash flowing businesses and move Main Street onto a Bitcoin standard, plus why privacy tech is the next battleground for self custody and Bitcoin adoption. Connect with Jeff: https://primal.net/jeffbooth https://x.com/JeffBooth Connect with Us: https://www.bitcoininfinityshow.com/ https://bitcoininfinitystore.com https://primal.net/infinity https://primal.net/knut https://primal.net/luke https://twitter.com/BtcInfinityShow https://twitter.com/knutsvanholm https://twitter.com/lukedewolf Thanks to our sponsors - check out their websites for info: Bull Bitcoin: https://app.bullbitcoin.com/registration/infinity BitBox: https://bitbox.swiss/infinity - Use Code INFINITY for 5% off! Bitcoin Adviser: https://content.thebitcoinadviser.com/freedom The Bitcoin Infinity Show is a Bitcoin podcast hosted by Knut Svanholm and produced by Luke de Wolf. bitcoin #freedom #podcast #philosophy #sovereignty

Martin Matejka joins the Bitcoin Infinity Show to talk about using Bitcoin as collateral for loans without handing your coins to a trust me bro platform like the ones that collapsed in the last cycle. He and Knut get into how Firefish uses Bitcoin layer one tools like multisig, timelocks, and partially signed transactions to keep counterparty risk low, why borrowing in fiat is really a bet against a failing currency, and how self-custody changes what it even means to own an asset. The conversation widens into real estate as a store of value, the illusion of ownership under central planning, and why sound money and abundant energy point toward a freer future. Connect with Martin: https://x.com/MatejkaMar Connect with Us: https://www.bitcoininfinityshow.com/ https://bitcoininfinitystore.com https://primal.net/infinity https://primal.net/knut https://primal.net/luke https://twitter.com/BtcInfinityShow https://twitter.com/knutsvanholm https://twitter.com/lukedewolf Thanks to our sponsors - check out their websites for info: Firefish: https://firefish.io/ - Use Code INFINITY! Bull Bitcoin: https://app.bullbitcoin.com/registration/infinity BitBox: https://bitbox.swiss/infinity - Use Code INFINITY for 5% off! Bitcoin Adviser: https://content.thebitcoinadviser.com/freedom

Jon Atack returns to the Bitcoin Infinity Show for his second appearance to talk through the Bitcoin Core governance questions raised by Hodlonaut's Capture article series, and why he believes Core's instinct to circle the wagons and shoot the messenger has hurt its public image more than any outside misinformation. He gives his neutral read on the contested BIP-110 soft fork, the renewed pushes to ban Luke Dashjr, the flood of AI-generated BIP spam, and the growing centralization of Core maintainership, arguing that healthy alternative implementations and honest self-custody are what actually strengthen Bitcoin. The conversation closes with a grounded look at living on a Bitcoin standard in El Salvador, from the state of exception to the hardcore ramp-up in KYC and surveillance. Connect with Jon: https://x.com/jonatack Connect with Us: https://www.bitcoininfinityshow.com/ https://bitcoininfinitystore.com https://primal.net/infinity https://primal.net/knut https://primal.net/luke https://twitter.com/BtcInfinityShow https://twitter.com/knutsvanholm https://twitter.com/lukedewolf Thanks to our sponsors - check out their websites for info: Firefish: https://firefish.io/ - Use Code INFINITY! Bull Bitcoin: https://app.bullbitcoin.com/registration/infinity BitBox: https://bitbox.swiss/infinity - Use Code INFINITY for 5% off! Bitcoin Adviser: https://content.thebitcoinadviser.com/freedom The Bitcoin Infinity Show is a Bitcoin podcast hosted by Knut Svanholm and produced by Luke de Wolf. bitcoin #freedom #podcast #philosophy #sovereignty

George Bodine joins the Bitcoin Infinity Show to talk about Bitcoin self-custody, running a node, and why paper Bitcoin held through treasury companies and ETFs carries counterparty risk that real cold storage does not. Knut and George dig into the Core versus Knots debate, BIP-110, the power law disagreement, and the risks facing Bitcoin treasury companies as financialization accelerates. Along the way they explore creativity as the opposite of productivity, the discipline of dropping your ego, and what a life of integrity looks like through the eyes of an artist and former fighter pilot. Connect with George: https://x.com/Jethroe111 Connect with Us: https://www.bitcoininfinityshow.com/ https://bitcoininfinitystore.com https://primal.net/infinity https://primal.net/knut https://primal.net/luke https://twitter.com/BtcInfinityShow https://twitter.com/knutsvanholm https://twitter.com/lukedewolf Thanks to our sponsors - check out their websites for info: Firefish: https://firefish.io/ - Use Code INFINITY! Bull Bitcoin: https://app.bullbitcoin.com/registration/infinity BitBox: https://bitbox.swiss/infinity - Use Code INFINITY for 5% off! Bitcoin Adviser: https://content.thebitcoinadviser.com/freedom The Bitcoin Infinity Show is a Bitcoin podcast hosted by Knut Svanholm and produced by Luke de Wolf.