Flirting with Friendship

Chloé Caillet is everywhere right now - Coachella, Circoloco, Glastonbury, magazine covers - but this episode isn’t just another victory lap. It’s about what happens when the DJ dream actually comes true, and how you turn that momentum into something sustainable and creatively exciting. On this episode of Flirting with Friendship, Seth Troxler and Bill Patrick sit down with Chloé for a funny, honest and surprisingly uplifting conversation about reshaping your career from the inside out, stepping back from burnout, stepping into band culture again, and learning how to be present in a life that’s always in motion. They get into: - When nonstop touring quietly shifts from fantasy to “regular job”, and how she caught it before it broke her - The hotel‑room comedown, and the small rituals that keep her grounded on the road - Why she paused releases at peak momentum to reconnect with the music she really wants to make - Going from club tracks back to “real instruments,” bands and lyrics, and why that’s both terrifying and fun - How losing a dancefloor (and winning it back) can teach you more than any viral moment - The silent retreat that reset how she sees success, social media and her own brain - Why raving, live bands and actually being present might matter more than “playing the game” If you’ve ever wondered how to keep your head while things take off, or how to evolve without losing what you’ve built, this conversation will give you some food for thought. Order Chloé’s new album, Dance Again, on Vinyl or digital download HERE: https://chloecaillet.bandcamp.com/album/dance-again Purchase on Apple Music HERE: https://music.apple.com/bf/album/dance-again/6786260849 00:00 Intro (Sorry Zac Efron) 03:58 Diversity, “Girl DJs” & the Bro Era 08:49 Life as a Touring DJ: Glamour vs Reality 15:34 Loneliness, Burnout & Hotel-Room Spirals 18:28 Taking Time Off & Reconnecting With Music 22:59 From Conservatory Kid to Raver & DJ 29:25 Bands, Rock Revival & Genre Labels 35:44 Making an Album, Not Just Club Weapons 47:50 Silent Retreat & Learning to Live in the Present 55:43 What Makes Chloe Happy Now

Welcome back to Pill‑O‑Talk: the late‑night hotline where Seth Troxler and Bill Patrick turn your friendship problems, brain‑rot conspiracies, and club drama into chaotic group therapy. In this episode, they dive into: • “I have no friends”: why it’s so hard to connect in 4K social media world • Free drugs, bad puns, and going to raves alone: the worst best advice for meeting people • Are 3‑minute pop songs and reels actually psy‑ops to shrink your attention span? • Drinking baby blood, Saturn worship & why all conspiracies are “kinda true” now • When your friends hate the club but you don’t: building separate circles for different versions of you ☎️ Got your own friendship drama? CALL (866)608-BFFS or EMAIL [email protected] - it might make it on the show! 🩵 Subscribe now to never miss a hang (or a slumber party!) https://www.youtube.com/@flirtingwithfriendship 🫶 Looking for more ways to support your boys? SHOP MERCH at: https://www.flirtingwithfriendship.com/ BUY SETH & BILL'S BOOK "In Between" here: UK: https://inbetweenbook.net/ WORLDWIDE: https://www.ideanow.online/store/In-Between-p757175126 Hosts: Seth Troxler and Bill Patrick Executive Producers: Nikita Stanley, Jesse Rogg, Craig Pettigrew and Seth Troxler Co-executive Producer & Director: Lee Adams Associate Producer: Ed Cartwright VFX & Motion Graphics: Aaron Kulik Director of Photography: Lukas Strebel Set Designer: Veronica Gessa (aka Moki) Editor: Tyler Christie Music Supervisors: Peymon Maskan & Jenna Wilson, Radish Music Sound Design and Original Composition: Jasper Van Dijk Sound Editor: Mike Nicastro Re-Recording Mixer: Jack Goodman Camera operator: Joey Wasilewski Camera assistant: Jesse Newman Production Sound Mixer: Tom Zmuda 0:00 New Pill-O-Talk is here! 0:40 How To Make Friends 04:46 Conspiracy Theories  06:36 Two Sets Of Friends

Armin van Buuren is one of the most successful DJs to ever touch a pair of decks - five-time #1 DJ in the world, a 20+ year radio show, a label empire, sold-out festivals… and yet he’ll tell you the real story isn’t the trophies, it’s what he learned along the way. On this episode of Flirting with Friendship, Seth Troxler and Bill Patrick sit down with the trance legend for a surprisingly warm, funny, and honest chat about growing up in dance music and growing wiser inside it.  They get into: - How you can have everything on paper and still feel empty,  and what to do about it - Why his most expensive, worst‑streaming piano record might be the most important thing he’s ever made - Therapy in your 40s, keeping your ego in check, and not letting money corrupt your brain - The real difference between the DJ world and the “music industry” machine - Trance vs techno, “no genre is the genre,” and refusing to be a prisoner of your own style - Building a true community around A State of Trance, staying close to fans, and finding joy in smaller, more human shows If you love dance music, if you’ve ever felt stuck chasing your own idea of success, or you just want to hear Armin Van Buuren completely unfiltered and full of hard‑earned wisdom, this one’s for you. 🩵 Subscribe now to never miss a hang (or a slumber party!) https://www.youtube.com/@flirtingwithfriendship. 🫶 Looking for more ways to support your boys? SHOP MERCH at: https://www.flirtingwithfriendship.com/ BUY SETH & BILL'S BOOK "In Between" here: UK: https://inbetweenbook.net/ WORLDWIDE: https://www.ideanow.online/store/In-Between-p757175126 Hosts: Seth Troxler and Bill Patrick Executive Producers: Nikita Stanley, Jesse Rogg, Craig Pettigrew and Seth Troxler Co-executive Producer & Director: Lee Adams Associate Producer: Ed Cartwright VFX & Motion Graphics: Aaron Kulik Director of Photography: Lukas Strebel Set Designer: Veronica Gessa (aka Moki) Editor: Tyler Christie Music Supervisors: Peymon Maskan & Jenna Wilson, Radish Music Sound Design and Original Composition: Jasper Van Dijk Sound Editor: Mike Nicastro Re-Recording Mixer: Jack Goodman Camera operator: Joey Wasilewski Camera assistant: Jesse Newman Production Sound Mixer: Tom Zmuda Chapters:  00:00 Intro  02:20 #1 DJ & Imposter Syndrome  03:29 The Dark Side of DJ Life 08:15 Finding the Kid in His Underwear Making Tunes 09:23 The Piano Album: Worst Received, Most Important11:09 Techno, Trance & No-Genre Is the New Genre 20:22 The Dutch & The Business of Dance Music  26:49 Music Industry vs. DJ Culture  36:40 DJ Anxiety, Bad Gigs & Opening DJ Etiquette 44:28 Embracing Our Differences

Seth Troxler & Bill Patrick are back for Season 2 of Flirting With Friendship - different city, bigger production, same unfiltered chaos. 💫 In this premiere, Seth relives the 40th birthday that went way too far: a “microdose” that definitely wasn’t, a Palm Springs‑themed villa party in Ibiza, fake boobs turned public property, and the moment he realized maybe it was time to get sober.  They get into: - The wild night that inspired Seth to stay sober - Losing 12,000 records in one storm - Wearing giant fake breasts and suddenly understanding women - Balancing family life, DJ careers, and long‑distance friendship - Why they’re “flirting with God” and questioning reality - The pain of long voice notes, cold video calls, and aging into your 40s Season 2 is coming in hot from Los Angeles with guests Fatboy Slim, Matthew Dear, Alan T, Doc Martin, Chloé Caillet, Tokimonsta, A‑Trak, Armin Van Buuren, Kaz James, Hiroko Yamamura, Heidi Lawden, and Steve Hogan. Expect some dark humour and deep conversations about friendship, music, culture, and growing up without totally calming down. 🩵 Subscribe now to never miss a hang (or a slumber party!) https://www.youtube.com/@flirtingwithfriendship. 🫶 Looking for more ways to support your boys? SHOP MERCH at: https://www.flirtingwithfriendship.com/ BUY SETH & BILL'S BOOK "In Between" here: UK: https://inbetweenbook.net/ WORLDWIDE: https://www.ideanow.online/store/In-Between-p757175126 Hosts: Seth Troxler and Bill Patrick Executive Producers: Nikita Stanley, Jesse Rogg, Craig Pettigrew and Seth Troxler Co-executive Producer & Director: Lee Adams Associate Producer: Ed Cartwright VFX & Motion Graphics: Aaron Kulik Director of Photography: Lukas Strebel Set Designer: Veronica Gessa (aka Moki) Editor: Tyler Christie Music Supervisors: Peymon Maskan & Jenna Wilson, Radish Music Sound Design and Original Composition: Jasper Van Dijk Sound Editor: Mike Nicastro Re-Recording Mixer: Jack Goodman Camera operator: Joey Wasilewski Camera assistant: Jesse Newman Production Sound Mixer: Tom Zmuda 00:00 Welcome back!  01:06 Favorite S1 Moments 03:22 S2 Guests  06:23 Seth's 40th birthday 09:30 Experimenting in life12:00 Flirting with God 14:04 On voice notes  16:28 Seth’s new restaurant  21:25 IBS and other ailments  23:40 Guest sneak peak 27:47 On careers and friendship

Season 1 of Flirting with Friendship is officially a wrap. Seth Troxler and Bill Patrick pop in to say thank you, tease a new “state‑of‑the‑art” avatar project, and hint at what’s coming in Season 2. 📞 Call the Pill‑O‑Talk hotline with your friendship dilemmas: 1‑866‑608‑BFFS 🎧 Binge Season 1 of Flirting with Friendship plus the Pill‑O‑Talk episodes on YouTube, Spotify, and wherever you listen. Season 2 is coming!  Keep up with Seth and Bill on IG: https://www.instagram.com/stroxler https://www.instagram.com/bill_patrick 🩵 Subscribe now to never miss a hang with your friends:https://www.youtube.com/@flirtingwithfriendship 🫶 Looking for more ways to support your boys?  Buy Seth & Bill's book "In Between" here:UK: https://inbetweenbook.net/WORLDWIDE: https://www.ideanow.online/store/In-Between-p757175126 Hosts: Seth Troxler and Bill PatrickExecutive Producers: Nikita Stanley, Jesse Rogg, Craig Pettigrew and Seth Troxler Co-executive Producer: Lee AdamsLive Production Director and VFX & Motion Graphics Supervisor: Aaron Kulik Director of Photography: Lukas Strebel Set Designer: Veronica Gessa (aka Moki) Editor: Tyler ChristieSound Design and Original Composition by Jasper Van Dijk Music Supervisors: Seth Troxler, Bill PatrickMusic Consultants: Jenna Wilson for Radish and James Cartwright for Bad SneakersMusic Courtesy of: APMCamera operator: Joseph Holton Camera assistant: Jake SmithProduction Sound Mixer: Jo Youle

Welcome back to Pill‑O‑Talk: the hotline where Seth and Bill treat your life crises like late‑night radio, group therapy, and absolute chaos rolled into one. In this episode, they dive into: • A roommate secretly running an OnlyFans… on the shared living room couch • Promotion news that’s already decided… but your friend is still manifesting it for herself • “I’m not your therapist”: when a friendship turns into unpaid emotional labor • How to set boundaries without feeling like the asshole (but maybe being a tiny bit of an asshole anyway) ☎️ Got a friendship, roommate, or work mess we need to unpack?Call 1‑866‑608‑BFFS or email [email protected] and your drama might end up on the show. 🩵 Subscribe now to never miss a hang (or a slumber party!)https://www.youtube.com/@flirtingwithfriendship 🫶 Looking for more ways to support your boys?  Buy Seth & Bill's book "In Between" here:UK: https://inbetweenbook.net/WORLDWIDE: https://www.ideanow.online/store/In-Between-p757175126 🇮🇹 Italian🌍 Guarda nella tua lingua: Tocca ⚙️ → Sottotitoli → Traduzione automatica 🇫🇷 French🌍 Regardez dans votre langue: Appuyez sur ⚙️ → Sous-titres → Traduction automatique 🇪🇸 Spanish🌍 Mira en tu idioma: Toca ⚙️ → Subtítulos → Traducción automática 🇵🇹 Portuguese🌍 Assista no seu idioma: Toque ⚙️ → Legendas → Tradução automática Hosts: Seth Troxler and Bill PatrickExecutive Producers: Nikita Stanley, Jesse Rogg, Craig Pettigrew and Seth Troxler Co-executive Producer: Lee AdamsLive Production Director and VFX & Motion Graphics Supervisor: Aaron Kulik Director of Photography: Lukas Strebel Set Designer: Veronica Gessa (aka Moki) Editor: Tyler ChristieSound Design and Original Composition by Jasper Van DijkMusic Supervisors: Seth Troxler, Bill PatrickMusic Consultants: Jenna Wilson for Radish and James Cartwright for Bad SneakersMusic Courtesy of: APMCamera operator: Joseph Holton Camera assistant: Jake SmithProduction Sound Mixer: Jo Youle

Before he was one of the most important DJs in the world, Manfredi “DJ Tennis” Romano was tour managing Henry Rollins, driving Discord bands across Europe for and sleeping on strangers’ couches. Then came late‑90s rave culture, Aphex Twin on TV at 3am and a realization: there was a different way to live with music. On this episode of Flirting with Friendship, Seth and Bill catch up with their longtime friend Manfredi to trace the whole arc: punk vans to DC‑10, Discord to Life and Death, and why he might actually be a better chef than DJ. They talk about: • Growing up Sicilian, complex genetics and complex food culture • Tour managing Black Flag-era Henry Rollins and DC post‑hardcore bands • Techno‑grunge, slacker energy and why new subcultures need new names • College degrees in computer science and geology and how they shaped his brain • Building scenes: why all great culture still comes from tiny crews of friends • Cooking daily, caring for people and how food and DJing are the same service • Munchie Town, future cookbooks and starting a deli with Seth in Ibiza • ADHD, storage units, retro phones, Pokemon, Labubu and compulsive collecting It’s part history lesson, part food show, part gear‑nerd hangout, and fully a love letter to the friendships and obsessions that keep you young - no matter how many years you’ve been professionally partying. Keep up with DJ Tennis on Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/DJTennis 🩵 Subscribe now to never miss a hang with your friends: https://www.youtube.com/@flirtingwithfriendship 🫶 Looking for more ways to support your boys?   Buy Seth & Bill's book "In Between" here: UK: https://inbetweenbook.net/ WORLDWIDE: https://www.ideanow.online/store/In-Between-p757175126 Hosts: Seth Troxler and Bill PatrickExecutive Producers: Nikita Stanley, Jesse Rogg, Craig Pettigrew and Seth Troxler Co-executive Producer: Lee AdamsLive Production Director and VFX & Motion Graphics Supervisor: Aaron Kulik Director of Photography: Lukas Strebel Set Designer: Veronica Gessa (aka Moki) Editor: Tyler ChristieSound Design and Original Composition by Jasper Van Dijk Music Supervisors: Seth Troxler, Bill PatrickMusic Consultants: Jenna Wilson for Radish and James Cartwright for Bad SneakersMusic Courtesy of: APMCamera operator: Joseph Holton Camera assistant: Jake SmithProduction Sound Mixer: Jo Youle

Welcome back to Pill‑O‑Talk: the hotline where your favorite DJs act as your chaotic older brothers, therapists, and worst enablers. 💫 In this episode Seth and Bill break down each dilemma with brutal honesty, unhinged solutions, and some surprisingly solid advice. The Coles Notes:  • A caller who drunkenly lied about “modeling in Europe” and is now permanently known as “the ex‑model” • How to escape a lie that’s gone full runway without looking unhinged • Whether you should Venmo yourself into debt for someone else’s big day • An “emotional support” dog that destroys wine, rugs, and friendships • Setting boundaries without feeling like an asshole ☎️ Got a friendship quandary for us? Your drama might end up on the show.Call 1‑866‑608‑BFFS or email [email protected]  🩵 Subscribe now to never miss a hang (or a slumber party!)https://www.youtube.com/@flirtingwithfriendship 🫶 Looking for more ways to support your boys?  Buy Seth & Bill's book "In Between" here:UK: https://inbetweenbook.net/WORLDWIDE: https://www.ideanow.online/store/In-Between-p757175126 🇮🇹 Italian🌍 Guarda nella tua lingua: Tocca ⚙️ → Sottotitoli → Traduzione automatica 🇫🇷 French🌍 Regardez dans votre langue: Appuyez sur ⚙️ → Sous-titres → Traduction automatique 🇪🇸 Spanish🌍 Mira en tu idioma: Toca ⚙️ → Subtítulos → Traducción automática 🇵🇹 Portuguese🌍 Assista no seu idioma: Toque ⚙️ → Legendas → Tradução automática Hosts: Seth Troxler and Bill PatrickExecutive Producers: Nikita Stanley, Jesse Rogg, Craig Pettigrew and Seth Troxler Co-executive Producer: Lee AdamsLive Production Director and VFX & Motion Graphics Supervisor: Aaron Kulik Director of Photography: Lukas Strebel Set Designer: Veronica Gessa (aka Moki) Editor: Tyler ChristieSound Design and Original Composition by Jasper Van DijkMusic Supervisors: Seth Troxler, Bill PatrickMusic Consultants: Jenna Wilson for Radish and James Cartwright for Bad SneakersMusic Courtesy of: APMCamera operator: Joseph Holton Camera assistant: Jake SmithProduction Sound Mixer: Jo Youle

Marcelo Burlon isn’t supposed to exist. He grew up in Patagonia, landed in Milan with a working‑class family, started as a teenage club dancer and somehow became one of the key figures turning underground nightlife into a global fashion movement. He’s the founder of County of Milan, a label born directly out of dance floors, streetwear and music that ended up on artists all over the world. Marcelo never came up through the “proper” fashion system; he disrupted it. From doing PR at Magazzini Generali and throwing legendary parties, to connecting Virgil Abloh with Italian manufacturers and helping spark Off‑White and Palm Angels, he’s been quietly building a whole ecosystem of friends, brands and scenes. In this episode of Flirting with Friendship, Seth and Bill sit down with their old friend Marcelo to talk about how club culture became fashion culture - and why he decided to walk away from all of it. They get into: • Growing up in Patagonia, moving to Italy, and discovering Riccione’s 90s club scene • How fashion houses used club kids as the original influencers, pre‑social media • How DJing, parties and community turned into a t‑shirt line that blew up overnight • Connecting Virgil Abloh with production in Milan and the origin story of Off‑White • The cross‑pollination of queer culture, fashion, hip hop and underground clubbing • Queer visibility, casting trans models, and why he tried (and struggled) to run his own foundation • Politics, dark times and why “the darkness” can be creatively inspiring • Retiring from his brand, investing, opening a padel club in Patagonia and designing a quiet, ugly‑beautiful life with his husband If you care about how nightlife, friendship and queerness quietly rewired global fashion, this one is a history lesson, a love letter and a retirement fantasy rolled into one. Keep up with Marcelo Burlon on Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/marceloburlon/ 🩵 Subscribe now to never miss a hang (or a slumber party!) https://www.youtube.com/@flirtingwithfriendship 🫶 Looking for more ways to support your boys?   Buy Seth & Bill's book "In Between" here: UK: https://inbetweenbook.net/ WORLDWIDE: https://www.ideanow.online/store/In-Between-p757175126 Hosts: Seth Troxler and Bill PatrickExecutive Producers: Nikita Stanley, Jesse Rogg, Craig Pettigrew and Seth Troxler Co-executive Producer: Lee AdamsLive Production Director and VFX & Motion Graphics Supervisor: Aaron Kulik Director of Photography: Lukas Strebel Set Designer: Veronica Gessa (aka Moki) Editor: Tyler ChristieSound Design and Original Composition by Jasper Van Dijk Music Supervisors: Seth Troxler, Bill PatrickMusic Consultants: Jenna Wilson for Radish and James Cartwright for Bad SneakersMusic Courtesy of: APMCamera operator: Joseph Holton Camera assistant: Jake SmithProduction Sound Mixer: Jo Youle

Welcome back to Pill‑O‑Talk: the hotline where your favorite DJs act as your chaotic older brothers, therapists, and worst enablers. Today’s episode is unhinged in all the right ways. We’ve got callers with very serious problems… like a friend who ONLY brings bottom‑shelf, gray, dry hummus to every gathering and then gets offended when anyone suggests levelling up. Is it petty? Yes. Is it a problem? Also yes. Then we meet Diego, whose German friend keeps “complimenting” his new DJ mix by calling it “very brave” and “a lot to process.” Is that lost in translation… or the most polite way possible to say “this sucks”?  Finally, it’s an AITA for the ages: a listener whose best friend named her baby Moonshell. Not Michelle. Moonshell. She physically can’t say the name without cringing, her friend is furious, and we’re all just wondering: what happens when you name a human like a scented candle? Seth and Bill break down each dilemma with honesty, petty genius, and some genuinely solid (if slightly toxic) advice. 🩵 Subscribe now to never miss a hang (or a slumber party!) https://www.youtube.com/@flirtingwithfriendship 🫶 Looking for more ways to support your boys?   Buy Seth & Bill's book "In Between" here: UK: https://inbetweenbook.net/ WORLDWIDE: https://www.ideanow.online/store/In-Between-p757175126 🇮🇹 Italian 🌍 Guarda nella tua lingua: Tocca ⚙️ → Sottotitoli → Traduzione automatica 🇫🇷 French 🌍 Regardez dans votre langue: Appuyez sur ⚙️ → Sous-titres → Traduction automatique 🇪🇸 Spanish 🌍 Mira en tu idioma: Toca ⚙️ → Subtítulos → Traducción automática 🇵🇹 Portuguese 🌍 Assista no seu idioma: Toque ⚙️ → Legendas → Tradução automática Hosts: Seth Troxler and Bill Patrick Executive Producers: Nikita Stanley, Jesse Rogg, Craig Pettigrew and Seth Troxler  Co-executive Producer: Lee Adams Live Production Director and VFX & Motion Graphics Supervisor: Aaron Kulik  Director of Photography: Lukas Strebel  Set Designer: Veronica Gessa (aka Moki)  Editor: Tyler Christie Sound Design and Original Composition by Jasper Van Dijk Music Supervisors: Seth Troxler, Bill Patrick Music Consultants: Jenna Wilson for Radish and James Cartwright for Bad Sneakers Music Courtesy of: APM Camera operator: Joseph Holton  Camera assistant: Jake Smith Production Sound Mixer: Jo Youle