Historian Mark David Spence is the author of “Dispossessing the Wilderness”, which explores the often obscured history of the forced removal of Native Americans from the landscapes that would become our first national parks. Yosemite, Yellowstone and Glacier National Parks were inhabited landscapes before white settlers arrived and were awestruck by the scenic majesty of these places. Spence’s work shows how the history of the National Park Service is intertwined with the history of the reservation system and our nation’s shameful history of Native American oppression and genocide.
In our conversation, Spence discusses his research process for the book as well as the hurdles he encountered from Park Service historians and archivists. He also talks about his love for National Parks, and how he is able to continue to enjoy spending time in these magical places even after being exposed to their brutal and oppressive history.
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ETH Bonus: We're Taking A Break!
15:57Hello Earth to Humans listeners! Producer Matt Podolsky and I (Sarinah Simons) will be taking a break from the podcast for a little while to focus on exciting, new developments we have planned for Earth to Humans. In the mean time, we will be re-releasing previously aired episodes from the archives so you can still get ETH in your ears every other Wednesday. For more updates, follow us on Patreon at https://patreon.com/wildlenscollective
ETH 227: Bright Green Lies
1:15:39Filmmaker Julia Barnes speaks with authors Derrick Jensen, Lierre Keith, and Max Wilbert about their new book Bright Green Lies: How the Environmental Movement Lost Its Way and What We Can Do About It."Bright Green Lies exposes the hypocrisy of leading environmental groups. It asks the questions most refuse to ask, and in that questioning, uncovers profound truths.” ―Chris Hedges"This disturbing but very important book makes clear we must dig deeper than the normal solutions we are offered." ―Yvon ChouinardThe authors dismantle the illusion that modern, high-energy ways of living can be made sustainable by changing the fuel source. They expose the dark reality behind the industrial technologies that are being promoted as “green”.The book and companion documentary can be found at: www.brightgreenlies.com
ETH 226: Saving the Rainforest, One C-Section at a Time
50:00It’s far too rare in the world of environmentalism to see programs that seek to solve humanitarian issues, to create positive conservation outcomes. But, after seeing the implications of illegal logging on the communities and ecosystems in which they grew up, the Founders of Yayasan ASRI went about stopping it a little differently by asking ‘why?’This approach, later dubbed ‘radical listening’ by the organization, led to a very simple answer to their question - local communities couldn’t afford healthcare that they needed for themselves and their families. Or, the chemical fertilizers they were being sold had become so expensive and unsustainable that they could no longer afford to pay for them, so could no longer grow crops to feed or support their families. In both incidences, people were turning to illegal logging to pay their bills. They weren’t logging because they wanted to, it was because they had no other choice. By removing boundaries to affordable, high quality healthcare, providing education on organic farming techniques and offering business and grants and financial advice, this organization has changed the lives of many people throughout Indonesia by providing previously unavailable options, and has created a model that is now being used in other places around the world.In this episode, Hannah Mulvany speaks to Mahardika Putra Purba about this incredible conservation and humanitarian organization in Borneo - the place that sparked her journey to become an environmental scientist.Learn more about Yayasan ASRI on the latest Earth to Humans episode, or visit their website: https://www.alamsehatlestari.org/
ETH 225: "In a Gentle Way, He Shakes the World" - Munir Virani's Mission to Conserve Vultures and Birds of Prey
51:18Munir Virani is a world-renowned raptor biologist and the executive vice president of the Peregrine Fund. We talk with him about growing up in Nairobi, Kenya, his inspiration to begin studying birds of prey, and how he helped solve a continent-wide mystery about the source of a mass-poisoning event that wiped out more than 95% of India’s vulture population.
ETH 224: Are We Screwing Up Climate Change Education?
46:39There's no denying that climate change will play a significant role in everyone's lives in the future (if it isn't keeping you awake at night already). But how do we tell our kids the truth and reality about climate change and its implications on their futures without completely freaking them out?Well, the answer is actually pretty complicated and doesn't allow for a clear-cut solution. While it is an amazing feat that some kids are learning about this important topic AT ALL, the way we are teaching them about it leaves a lot to be desired.On this episode, we chat with 7-year-old and first grader, Rowan Podolsky, about how he currently understands climate change and its solutions as well as with his parents, Matt and Miranda Podolsky, about their fears, joys and confusion when it comes to climate change education and raising Rowan at a time when our environment seems so unstable.
ETH 223: Raíces Verdes
29:21Samara Almonte is the creator of Raíces Verdes, a podcast for healing our relationship with the Earth and with each other, as well as a platform dedicated to validating, sharing and archiving the experiences of Black, Indigenous, People of color in connection to the environment. In this episode we speak with Samara about the inspiration behind her podcast, and share a segment from her recent interview with indigenous scholar, scientist and community advocate Dr. Jessica Hernandez.
ETH 222: It Started With A Pair of Pants
39:35After a difficult experience finding outdoor clothing that fit well, Raquel did what any normal person would do to solve this problem by starting her own inclusive outdoor clothing company.Raquel Vélez is the CEO and founder of Alpine Parrot, an outdoor clothing company that centers plus size women and women of color. Alpine Parrot is essentially a response to the lack of sizing and diversity in most outdoor brands and celebrates the empowerment and visibility of plus size bodies out in the wild.We’ll talk about some of the biggest barriers that exist for people of size in the outdoors as well as ways everyone can work to ensure more equity and access for the broad spectrum of body types that are as diverse and varied as we humans are. This is a special episode for me, and I hope it inspires empathy and offers some perspective into the pervasive and damaging long-term effects of body shaming and exclusionary advertising as well as the potential for real change being helped along by the growing body positivity movement. Here’s the story of how Raquel putting her heart and soul into a single pair of pants changed everything.
ETH 221: There's No Such Thing as Wilderness: An Alternate History of the National Park Service
44:43Historian Mark David Spence is the author of “Dispossessing the Wilderness”, which explores the often obscured history of the forced removal of Native Americans from the landscapes that would become our first national parks. Yosemite, Yellowstone and Glacier National Parks were inhabited landscapes before white settlers arrived and were awestruck by the scenic majesty of these places. Spence’s work shows how the history of the National Park Service is intertwined with the history of the reservation system and our nation’s shameful history of Native American oppression and genocide.In our conversation, Spence discusses his research process for the book as well as the hurdles he encountered from Park Service historians and archivists. He also talks about his love for National Parks, and how he is able to continue to enjoy spending time in these magical places even after being exposed to their brutal and oppressive history.
ETH 220: That Insurrection Thing
1:03:43Remember that insurrection thing that happened on January 6th? Well we’re here to talk about it! On today’s episode we convene a roundtable discussion with Wild Lens Inc. co-founder Matt Podolsky, former Senior Producer for the show, Gregory Haddock, and current Senior Producer, Sarinah Simons for a refreshing dive into all things politics. We discuss some of the news that’s been on our minds following the election and certification of Joe Biden for President of the United States, as well as how we’re grappling with the events that followed. We’ll process some of our fears, share glimmers of hope for the future as well as how new political decisions may impact our planet.
ETH 219: Legends, Locals and Pink Dolphins
42:15In this episode, we chat with Suzanne Smith, Founder and Executive Director of the Amazon River Dolphin Conservation Foundation about her efforts to conserve the endangered River Dolphins in the Amazon through research, education and collaboration. We talk about how her conservation work which builds upon the wisdom and beliefs of the local communities in the Amazon may be a recipe for success, despite the odds.