‘Fintechs understand who their customer is, and build for them’: BlueVine’s Herman Man

Welcome, everyone, to another episode of The Tearsheet Podcast, where we explore financial services together with an eye on technology, innovation, emerging models, and changing expectations. I’m Tearsheet’s editor in chief, Zack Miller. As we explore how financial services is attempting to cater to younger customers, it’s clear – some neobanks and fintechs resonate with Gen Z much more than traditional FIs. That may be because they have identified niche consumer groups and are thinking out of the box when it comes to designing products for them, according to Josh Stephens, SVP of Product at Current and Tony Tran, CEO and co-founder of Lumanu. Both these professionals – and the companies they’ve helped build – stand out among just a handful of financial services firms building their products and their services, designing their infrastructure, and establishing the channels to foster relationships with their clients today and into the future. Stephens and Tran joined me on stage for a fireside chat in March at Mastercard’s Tech Hub in NYC at our Gen Z Symposium, to talk about how their companies are catering to Gen Z. Our conversation explores the evolving standards banks have to meet when serving younger customers. We spend a good deal of time exploring the importance and design of good UX for today’s customers. We end with a discussion about how communities may be the way to educate and engage Gen Z. Here’s my conversation with Josh Stephens and Tony Tran.

Welcome, everyone, to another episode of The Tearsheet Podcast, where we explore financial services together with an eye on technology, innovation, emerging models, and changing expectations. I’m Tearsheet’s editor in chief, Zack Miller. Understanding how a system works is the first step to leveraging it to your advantage. However in an environment where just seven states provide excellent education in personal finance, younger generations like Gen Z are starting out at a massive disadvantage. But some fintechs like the family education and finance focused fintech Greenlight, have started to build products that aim to fill in this gap. The company’s financial literacy game Level Up offers children a chance to engage with personal finance topics in a fun, gamified environment. In this conversation, Greenlight’s SVP, Business Development, Matt Wolf, joins Tearsheet editor and founder Zack Miller, on stage at our Gen Z Symposium held on March 7th, 2024 in New York City. Wolf dives into the state of Gen Z’s financial literacy and their expectation that FIs should operationalize their position as a trusted source to better inform and educate the coming generation about personal finance. He also shares why this expectation is sometimes difficult for banks to meet fully and how partnerships can help ease some of the technical and business difficulties with building Gen Z-focused financial literacy products. The big ideas The gap in financial literacy: “What’s interesting is when you poll them [Gen Z], three out of four believe that they don’t currently have the skill sets they need, and they’re not confident in their skill.” Banks want to reach Gen Z but their attention is divided: “If it comes to, hey, can we talk about financial health, or can we talk about additional lending products, sometimes you’re gonna lose out on that.” Building for Gen Z means building for the future: “There’s an understanding that engaging in acquiring and having a relationship with that next generation is good for their immediate bottom lines. But just looking at the future societal consequences and their communities when people are making bad investments, if they’re being very loose with how they use credit, it’s going to be critical.”

Welcome, everyone, to another episode of The Tearsheet Podcast, where we explore financial services together with an eye on technology, innovation, emerging models, and changing expectations. I’m Tearsheet’s editor in chief, Zack Miller. Next up, we have Eunice Jung, who is helping to encourage climate-smart lifestyles through fintech as Head of Partnerships at Future. Eunice is not your typical finance executive; she’s a recent grad on a mission to really rethink how we think about sustainability in our everyday lives. With a background in sustainability from Stanford, Eunice found her passion intersecting with finance at an early stage, leading her to spearhead Future’s innovative sustainable rewards platform. Eunice spoke recently at Tearsheet’s symposium on Gen Z in New York City. Eunice’s journey from student to executive is as inspiring as it is unconventional. Today, she shares her insights into the challenges and triumphs of bridging the gap between climate-consciousness and financial pragmatism. From her humble beginnings as an intern to shaping the future of finance for Gen Z and beyond, Eunice’s story is a testament to the power of determination and innovation. So, whether you’re a seasoned sustainability enthusiast or just dipping your toes into the world of climate-smart finance, join us as we uncover the possibilities that lie at the intersection of money and sustainability. Get ready to embark on a journey of discovery, inspiration, and actionable insights with our guest, Eunice Jung.

Welcome, everyone, to another episode of The Tearsheet Podcast, where we explore financial services together with an eye on technology, innovation, emerging models, and changing expectations. I’m Tearsheet’s editor in chief, Zack Miller. This episode of The Tearsheet Podcast delves into the evolving financial landscape for Gen Z, focusing on their transition from debit to credit usage. Bunita Sawhney, Global Head of Consumer Products and Processing at Mastercard, shares insights from her presentation at the Tearsheet Gen Z Symposium, emphasizing the increasing role of women in financial decision-making. We explore Gen Z's preference for debit cards over credit cards, driven by factors like control and familiarity.  Bunita highlights the importance of partnerships and innovative strategies to engage Gen Z, advocating for financial literacy initiatives and alternative credit-building solutions like installment plans and Buy Now, Pay Later options. The discussion also touches on Mastercard's collaborations with fintech firms like Greenlight and Juvo to promote financial education and inclusion among younger demographics. Ultimately, the podcast aims to shed light on the challenges and opportunities in catering to Gen Z's financial needs and preferences. The big ideas Gen Z's Influence in Financial Decision Making: "To this day, 90% of payment decisions or household buying decisions are made by or with women. And that's true for Gen Z as well. Over 25% of women say that they are the sole decision-maker in their household's financial decisions." Gen Z's Digital and Social Natives: "It is a really special moment, not only because we're on the cusp of International Women's Day, so happy International Women's Day to all of you. And I do like to think not only about the women in our company and how we serve and support them, but the women who we and our product support and serve as well, because I'll spend a minute on that as I transition us over into Gen Z."  Preference for Debit Cards: "Debit is still the most accepted and the largest payment vehicle and the most consistently used all around the world. And that is true also for our Gen Z consumers. Why? Because it meets some of their critical needs, it meets their need for control, it meets their need for understanding and having control over their payments."  Importance of Credit Building: "Credit doesn't have to revolve first of all, right? We know now with the advent and the absolute take-off of installment solutions, and buy now pay later solutions, that there's plenty of easy ways to have access to short, non-APR related ways to pay in four, pay in six without a fee or without an APR as an example." Financial Literacy and Education: "We know that 52% of Gen Z consumers worry about financial security. That's twice as much as the generations before them -- two times more worry." Partnerships and Innovation: "We're in a different place with a different level of information flow with a really curious group, that are finding ways to inform themselves through social platforms, as I said, and others through influencers, who we need to continue to partner with more so than ever." Here’s my conversation with Mastercard’s Bunita Sawhney.

Welcome, everyone, to another episode of The Tearsheet Podcast, where we explore financial services together with an eye on technology, innovation, emerging models, and changing expectations. I’m Tearsheet’s editor in chief, Zack Miller. Today we have an insightful conversation for you featuring Trevor Nies, senior vice president and global head of digital at Adyen, a leading financial technology platform renowned for its innovative contributions to the digital commerce landscape. This conversation was a fun one I recorded with Trevor as a Linkedin Live session. With extensive experience and expertise, Trevor plays a pivotal role in driving Adyen's strategic initiatives, particularly in payment solutions and empowering businesses to thrive in the ever-evolving realm of modern commerce. At Adyen, Trevor leads efforts to develop solutions that address the complexities of digital transactions and provide businesses with the tools they need to navigate the intricacies of the modern marketplace. With a focus on enhancing payment experiences and streamlining operations, Adyen's digital commerce solutions are reshaping the way businesses engage with customers and drive sales in today's dynamic ecosystem. Join us as we delve into Adyen's strategic vision, exploring the company's commitment to innovation and its impact on shaping the future of commerce. Through this conversation, we aim to uncover the transformative power of Adyen's digital commerce solutions and gain valuable insights into the evolving landscape of payments and consumer behavior. Before we dive into today's episode, I’d like to give a shoutout to our sponsor, StrawberryFrog. StrawberryFrog has been hailed as the very best in creative marketing, innovations, and transformation for financial brands worldwide. Working with iconic names like Morgan Stanley, Truist, First Abu Dhabi Bank, and many others, they've set the standard for excellence. I’ve particularly enjoyed covering the firm’s ability to enact movements within these organizations that infuse their brands with real purpose that employees and customers can get behind. So, whether you're a financial giant or a tech disruptor, StrawberryFrog is your go-to partner for activating brand purpose and driving transformative movements. Learn more about their groundbreaking work at strawberryfrog.com. Without further ado, let's enter this dialogue and uncover the implications of Adyen's strategic initiatives in the realm of digital commerce.

Welcome, everyone, to another episode of The Tearsheet Podcast, where we explore financial services together with an eye on technology, innovation, emerging models, and changing expectations. I’m Tearsheet’s editor in chief, Zack Miller. Today, I’m thrilled to bring you an exclusive conversation with Terry O'Neil, a payments leader at Citi responsible for spearheading embedded payments and strategic initiatives. Terry provides insights into Citi's approach to embedding a wide array of financial products, including payment solutions, private label offerings, and lending products, directly into the fabric of merchants' point-of-sale systems. Join us as we unravel the complexities of streamlining integration processes for merchants, meeting evolving consumer demands for flexibility and choice, and navigating the convergence of physical and digital commerce. Get ready for an engaging exploration of how embedded payments are impacting the way businesses engage with customers and drive sales. Without further ado, let's embark on this captivating journey into the realm of embedded payments.

In the dynamic landscape of financial marketing and transformation, few figures stand out as prominently to me as Scott Goodson, CEO, and Chip Walker, Head of Strategy, at StrawberryFrog. I’ve spoken to these guys a few times over the years and they just get it. StrawberryFrog has been called the very best creative marketing, innovations, and transformation company in the world for financial brands, having worked with some of the most iconic financial brands including the largest banks such as Morgan Stanley, Truist, First Abu Dhabi Bank. SunTrust, Bank of America, Bank of Montreal, Harris Bank, Credit Suisse as well as tech brands like AfterPay and Thrive Global. We’re here to talk about activating brand purpose – throughout my conversation with Scott and Chip, we'll uncover the power of purpose in driving organizational change, how leaders can effectively activate purpose within their companies, and the impact of purpose-driven movements on both internal culture and societal change. From real-world examples to actionable strategies, get ready to gain valuable insights that can help transform your approach to leadership, marketing, and beyond. So grab your headphones and join us on this insightful journey into the heart of purpose-driven branding and leadership. Let's dive in! Here’s my conversation with StrawberryFrog’s Scott Goodson and Chip Walker. The big ideas Purpose-Driven Movements: The core concept discussed throughout the conversation is the idea of purpose-driven movements. These movements serve as powerful tools for organizations to not only differentiate themselves but also to address societal issues, engage employees, and drive meaningful change. Global Perspective and Experience: Scott and Chip's extensive international experience underscores the importance of a global perspective in understanding consumer behavior, market dynamics, and cultural nuances. This broad view enables them to develop effective strategies for global brands and navigate challenges across diverse markets. Leadership's Role in Purpose Activation: Effective leadership is essential for activating purpose within organizations. Leaders who embrace curiosity, openness, and a willingness to align personal purpose with corporate purpose can inspire employees, drive engagement, and spearhead movements that lead to tangible results. Closing the Purpose Gap: The purpose gap highlights the importance of ongoing activation and alignment of purpose throughout the organization. Closing this gap requires sustained effort, engagement, and co-authorship at all levels to ensure that purpose remains central to organizational culture and strategy. Movement Thinking in Marketing Strategy: Movement thinking offers a strategic approach to marketing that goes beyond traditional advertising tactics. By weaving purpose into storytelling and leveraging diverse platforms, brands can create multi-layered narratives that captivate audiences, drive engagement, and foster advocacy. Impact on Organizational Culture: Purpose-driven movements have a profound impact on organizational culture, fostering a sense of belonging, empowerment, and shared values among employees. When purpose is embedded in the fabric of an organization, it drives alignment, collaboration, and innovation. Societal Impact and Change: Beyond organizational benefits, purpose-driven movements have the potential to drive significant societal change. By addressing pressing issues such as mental health, financial literacy, and societal inequalities, brands can become catalysts for positive social impact and contribute to a more sustainable and equitable world.

Today, we have a special guest joining us—Shmulik Fishman, CEO of Argyle. I’ve spoken to Shmulik a few times over the years and it’s been really interesting to see how early he was to the space he’s playing in, as well as the impact Argyle is having on financial services. The firm’s recent investment round I think speaks to that. Argyle has been at the forefront of digital income verification, transforming how lenders, mortgage processors, banks, and fintechs verify income. In this episode, We’ll explore Argyle’s mission to enhance data completeness and streamline user experience through payroll connectivity. We’ll dive into Argyle’s recent Series C fundraising, Shmulik’s and Argyle’s vision for the future of payroll connectivity, and the impact they’re making in the financial services industry. Without further ado, let’s jump right into the conversation. The big ideas Argyle’s Mission and Accomplishments: Shmulik highlights Argyle’s mission and recent achievements, positioning the company as a leader in digital income verification. “Argyle is a digital income verification tool…The big news is that we just closed our Series C, we have an additional $30 million capital…This mark, sort of the 100 million dollars in capital raised, I think it’s really important.” Disruption of Outdated Processes: The conversation underscores how Argyle is disrupting traditional, paper-based processes with its innovative solutions, offering ease of use and security for consumers and lenders alike. “For too long, outdated processes have plagued industries like renting, lending, and mortgage processing, requiring consumers to deal with cumbersome paperwork. With Argyle, we’re changing that narrative…” Partnership with Rockefeller Asset Management: Shmulik discusses the significance of Rockefeller Asset Management joining Argyle’s board, highlighting the alignment of visions and the potential for greater impact. “Rockefeller asset management’s entry into our board brings a wealth of experience and resources, aligning perfectly with our mission to build an enduring business.” Focus on Payroll Connectivity: The podcast emphasizes Argyle’s focus on payroll connectivity and how it’s reshaping the landscape of income verification, setting new standards in the industry. “Payroll connectivity is at the heart of what we do at Argyle…we’re empowering lenders to make faster, more informed decisions while enhancing the user experience for consumers.” Client-Centric Approach: Shmulik highlights Argyle’s client-centric approach, emphasizing the importance of partnerships and customized solutions tailored to clients’ needs. “Our priorities moving forward revolve around enhancing the user experience, improving data completeness, and exploring new verticals where income verification can make a significant impact.”

Welcome, everyone, to another episode of The Tearsheet Podcast, where we explore financial services together with an eye on technology, innovation, emerging models, and changing expectations. I’m Tearsheet’s editor in chief, Zack Miller And for today’s episode, we're embarking on an insightful journey with two professionals I consider as visionaries – we’ve spoken a few times over the years – They’re the co-founders at the helm of Current, a pioneering neobank based in the heart of New York City. Joining us are Stuart Sopp, CEO and co-founder of Current, and Trevor Marshall, the CTO and co-founder, both instrumental in helping to shape the landscape of modern banking for everyday Americans. Recorded in September of 2023, we dive deep into the genesis of Current’s latest product, the Credit Builder Card. But beyond that, we'll explore the broader trends impacting financial services and its customers. From the impact of inflation and rising interest rates to the evolving needs of Gen Z consumers, we'll dissect the challenges and opportunities facing today's banking industry. Here’s my conversation with Current’s Stuart and Trevor. The big ideas Addressing the Need for Credit Building in a Changing Economic Landscape: "We saw a crucial need to help our members build credit effectively. The Credit Builder Card emerged from our deep understanding of our customers' needs and the changing economic climate." - Stuart Seamless Integration of Financial Products into Users' Lives: "We wanted to create a product that seamlessly integrates into our members' lives, offering a solution that not only builds credit but also enhances their banking experience with us." - Trevor Emphasis on Financial Education and Behavior Change: "We've really guided users towards adopting the best behaviors, the best possible practices to ensure that they are really getting the biggest benefits out of the product." - Trevor Accessibility and Inclusivity in Banking Products: "Our data suggests that there's strong interest across various demographics, including Gen Z. By offering a product that combines accessibility, education, and value, we're breaking down barriers to credit building and empowering all our members to achieve their financial goals." - Stuart Continuous Improvement and Focus on Long-term Relationships: "We're focused on continuous improvement, ensuring that we deliver unparalleled value to our members while driving towards profitability. Additionally, we're exploring new avenues for lending and business model innovation to further support our mission of financial empowerment." - Stuart Adapting Technology to Enhance User Experience and Financial Services: "We've built into our own core stack. So all of the products and services that we build can talk to each other. And that's in both our live production systems and our analytics and downstream customer data platform." - Trevor Anticipating and Preparing for Future Shifts in Financial Paradigms: "We are well prepared for both sides of that equation. We are early, as we always are, but we are well prepared for both sides of that equation." -

Welcome, everyone, to another episode of The Tearsheet Podcast, where we explore financial services together with an eye on technology, innovation, emerging models, and changing expectations. I’m Tearsheet’s editor in chief, Zack Miller. In today's conversation, I chat with Karan Anand, President at Brex. Brex has undergone a remarkable transformation over the last two years, evolving from a fintech startup with a corporate card for startups to a global fintech and enterprise SaaS company in corporate spend. Recently appointed to the new role of president, Karan gives us a window into this journey, shedding light on the challenges and successes that come with building both a fintech and SaaS business concurrently – it was like the firm had two entirely separate companies while they were building out the corporate spend side of the business. We delve into topics ranging from the cultural hurdles faced during this shift, the intricacies of scaling, and the unique challenges and opportunities that arise in the payments and software space. Whether you're deeply embedded in the fintech and SaaS world or simply curious about the evolution of innovative companies, this conversation with Karan is packed with valuable insights. So, without further ado, let's jump into the conversation and explore the dynamic landscape of financial technology and enterprise software with Karan Anand, President at Brex.